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(12:32:34 PM) Lysergic_: i did an approach on a "stranger" so to speak in this case
(12:32:40 PM) Lysergic_: and actually used my method of approach
(12:32:44 PM) Lysergic_: and low and behold it still works
(12:33:02 PM) Lysergic_: people talking shit on seddit can still continue to suck my dick and you guys should all STILL try it
(12:33:22 PM) adotb: I did an approach last night and didn't use hypnosis
(12:33:24 PM) adotb: and I got laid
(12:33:26 PM) adotb: yayyy
(12:33:32 PM) Lysergic_: once you have rapport and you have them imagining what its like and he entire conversatoin is focused on her values what she values and how it makes her feel
(12:33:36 PM) Lysergic_: there is no more to the basis of attraction
(12:33:45 PM) Lysergic_: than the rapport and understanding that your values are one in the same
(12:33:51 PM) adotb: Do you have a recommended reading list?
(12:33:56 PM) T3ddy: Lysergic_: people hate on anything they havent tried or sounds hard
(12:34:08 PM) adotb: I'd like to learn hypnosis but it's like... need more time
(12:34:17 PM) adotb: need a list of things that are the best material
(12:34:21 PM) Lysergic_: i just layed out with that guide how to use it to approach
(12:34:23 PM) Lysergic_: nothing more really
(12:34:32 PM) Lysergic_: but i mean its easy to just be natural after youve approached
(12:34:41 PM) Lysergic_: approach is the hook point most guys get stuck at before being able to learn where they ACTUALLY get stuck
(12:34:59 PM) Lysergic_: so i decided to write a guide about how to approach what to say what to do and how to do it and leave blanks to insert your own experience
(12:35:32 PM) Lysergic_: but the thing here is
(12:35:34 PM) Lysergic_: my girlfriend was present
(12:35:41 PM) Lysergic_: and i didn't even get past
(12:35:44 PM) Lysergic_: the FIRST PART of the APPROACH
(12:35:50 PM) Lysergic_: and i  had rapport and then had her CONFIRM TO ME
(12:35:54 PM) Lysergic_: by me directly asking her
(12:35:58 PM) Lysergic_: and thats how you feel right now with me, right?
(12:36:05 PM) Lysergic_: and she smiled, nodded, and said yes
(12:36:09 PM) Lysergic_: and asked me to get to my point
(12:36:15 PM) Lysergic_: rofl
(12:36:20 PM) Lysergic_: but she sincerely just wanted to hear me keep talking
(12:36:27 PM) Lysergic_: my point doesn't even matter because i could have switched topics and said
(12:36:48 PM) Lysergic_: well i WAS just interested in your values, but do you want to know why values are so interesting?
(12:37:02 PM) Lysergic_: i can be completely honest in my approach and talk about what i know to make them feel how i want them to feel
(12:37:05 PM) Lysergic_: while still being indirect
(12:37:47 PM) Lysergic_: anjyone can
(12:37:54 PM) Lysergic_: like you learn all this shit from the books we have on our own list
(12:37:58 PM) Lysergic_: its a matter of actually using it
(12:38:12 PM) T3ddy: yeah
(12:38:21 PM) T3ddy: i think i do this stuff, but dont really think about it
(12:38:51 PM) adotb: hypnosis stuff will be the next level of pickup for me once I decide I'm ready
(12:39:04 PM) adotb: :)
(12:39:16 PM) Lysergic_: that's such a bad way to look at i though
(12:39:19 PM) Lysergic_: because hypnosis is not a next level
(12:39:23 PM) Lysergic_: its what you already know and ahven't learned yet
(12:39:34 PM) adotb: yeah but it's more stuff to focus on
(12:39:43 PM) adotb: it could be too distracting
(12:39:53 PM) Lysergic_: it could easily be too easy
(12:40:04 PM) Lysergic_: to not get distracted
(12:40:11 PM) Lysergic_: and realize you just messed up like a REGULAR CONVERSATION
(12:40:13 PM) Lysergic_: oh where was i?
(12:40:23 PM) adotb: brb getting coffee
(12:40:24 PM) Lysergic_: oh right so after you begin to feel trusted
(12:40:28 PM) Lysergic_: now where does that bring you
(12:40:59 PM) Lysergic_: the way it works is
(12:41:04 PM) Lysergic_: you get them to perceive something as their own idea
(12:41:17 PM) Lysergic_: by understanding that it becomes easy to learn to communicate that way
(12:41:19 PM) Lysergic_: and people wil lalways understand you
(12:41:20 PM) Lysergic_: like
(12:41:23 PM) Lysergic_: im not saying
(12:41:25 PM) Lysergic_: feel trusted now
(12:41:25 PM) Lysergic_: im saying
(12:41:43 PM) Lysergic_: so right after you begin to feel trusted NOW what do you usually like to talk about?
(12:41:54 PM) Lysergic_: in the "if you were to meet this person" frame
(12:42:04 PM) Lysergic_: so it's a hypothetical frame with languaging telling the mind what to do indirectly
(12:42:34 PM) Lysergic_: you're presenting ideas and conneting them in a way in which they cna't be avoided
(12:42:44 PM) Lysergic_: but only followed
(12:42:51 PM) Lysergic_: you're guiding attention using rapport
(12:43:00 PM) Lysergic_: and you're building rapport using her words and body language
(12:43:15 PM) Lysergic_: the focus is on you because of rapport
(12:43:29 PM) Lysergic_: and you are presenting nice ideas and feelings that can not be avoided because there's rapport
(12:43:42 PM) Lysergic_: which means feelings will surface depending how you begin to start languaging them now
(12:43:59 PM) Lysergic_: it's just a matter of knowing how to know you already know how to do that
(12:44:25 PM) Lysergic_: like when you practice you might screw up but it never mattered before which means it doesn't matter now only as much as you think it did
(12:45:00 PM) Lysergic_: because clearly you have a whole world ahead of you asking to be hypnotized
(12:45:14 PM) Lysergic_: by the next man ready to call himself a savior
(12:45:17 PM) Lysergic_: so who will be the first?
(12:45:22 PM) Lysergic_: remains the only question
(12:45:43 PM) Lysergic_: you can be saved or you can save yourself
(12:46:02 PM) Lysergic_: but the reality is that no one is going to save you
(12:46:05 PM) Lysergic_: except yourself