<Snowy> ohai Squarepus
<RichDevX> yay, we finally got cfw running
<RichDevX> good job guys
<Squarepus> hi there Snowy
<RichDevX> meh, killed the chat flow xD
<Snowy> :P
<Squarepus> hey guys
<Squarepus> I did not know anything about you guys sitting on CEX->DEX
<RichDevX> how do you know we're all guys?
<Squarepus> that right there is a serious issue
<Squarepus> and then this 'Oedipus RSX' thing
<Snowy> That's durandals stuff
<Squarepus> so the way I see it
<Snowy> not touching it with a 20 foot pole
<Squarepus> the '3.41/3.55 hacks' that you guys are publicly talking about
<Squarepus> really don't amount to much next to CEX->DEX
<RichDevX> Squarepus, we have a simple method
<Squarepus> well it isn't even Durandal's stuff Snowy since he got it from Math
<Squarepus> aka Kaz
<RichDevX> step 1) place the ps3 in a bucket of distilled water
<Snowy> well touche but still. it isn't touching anything im doing
<Snowy> and im not touching it either
<RichDevX> step 2) pour the water out, and if the timing is right, the keys will leak out of the console in plaintext
<Squarepus> so I have some logs here
<Squarepus> they say people are driving up to Durandal
<Squarepus> and begging for CEX->DEX jobs
<RichDevX> why do you want a DEX?
<Snowy> wait what? the only one i've seen that wanted a dex was adrianc
<Snowy> who else? o.0
<Squarepus> people talked to ops on here
<Squarepus> about it
<Squarepus> Snowy - Adrianc wanted a DECR
<Squarepus> not a DEX
<Snowy> he wanted a dex and a decr
<Squarepus> Adrianc has a DEX already I believe
<Squarepus> in any case - he just wanted one for the collecting
<Snowy> oh derp
<Snowy> yea
<Squarepus> was not really anything to do with getting keys
<Squarepus> so whose bright idea was it
<Snowy> that was the only other person that i was aware of.
<Squarepus> to pick a couple of 3.60 SDK samples
<Snowy> durandal:
<Squarepus> and package them up as 'RSX information'?
<Squarepus> and then have people 'donate' 300 dollars for that
<Snowy> again that was durandal idea
<Squarepus> pretty terrible idea there
<Squarepus> I mean - does Glevand know about all this shit?
<Snowy> yup
<Squarepus> and he's cool with it?
<Snowy> i haven't talked to him about it personally
<Squarepus> well who raked in that money?
<Snowy> so i can't really answer that
<Squarepus> was it split between you two or did Durandal get the money
<Snowy> durandal
<Squarepus> wow
<Squarepus> sounds to me like somebody is taking advantage of the situation
<Squarepus> I was in such a situation at one point but I extricated myself from it
<Squarepus> and told the guy to go F* himself
<RichDevX> send me the money, and I'll put it to good use :)
<Squarepus> so Durandal can really do CEX->DEX?
<Squarepus> and it's not bluff?
<Snowy> I'm still working on my sles stuff and ibm tools
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<Snowy> yup Squarepus
<Squarepus> he no longer needs Math for that?
<Snowy> he could probably figure that out easily
<Squarepus> hah - guess Math will be feeling screwed right now then
<Snowy> he's in a pain coma atm due to 2 kidney stones
<Snowy> he hasn't converted any boxes though
<Squarepus> well I've got some logs here that show some people begged to convert their boxes
<RichDevX> Pockets69 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9 9
<Snowy> well that yea, but actually doing them = no
<Squarepus> well here is the thing
<Squarepus> Durandal can't sit on that stuff
<Squarepus> without the rest of us knowing
<Pockets69> RichDevX, :)
<Squarepus> otherwise all bets are off
<Snowy> pm'd
<RichDevX> this is why we create awesome teams, so we don't have this drama xD
<Squarepus> well either Durandal fork over the method
<Squarepus> or a lot of logs are going to be released
<Squarepus> and they won't be flattering
<Snowy> well brb let me warn him to see what he wants to do
<Squarepus> well yeah the ball is in his curve
<Squarepus> but just so you know
<Squarepus> lots of people are pissed about this
<Squarepus> and I can't really blame them too
<Squarepus> in his court but I guess you know what I mean
<Squarepus> anyway the Oedipus RSX thing was a step too far
<Squarepus> nobody expected to get a bunch of SDK 3.60 samples for - say - a donation amounting to 300 dollars
<Squarepus> that's just BS
<Squarepus> I asked him too how this was ever going to lead to RSX Linux drivers
<Squarepus> he didn't really have a satisfactory answer for me either
<Squarepus> other than that 'Glevand is working on it'
<Squarepus> which if that is so
<Squarepus> then why does that 300 dollars need to go to his bank account?
<Squarepus> seems to me like it should go to Glevand
<c4pt> someone said rsx?
<c4pt> << needs rsx
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<Snowy> Just told him Squarepus, he said it isn't his method to release.
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<Squarepus> yes we know that it is Math's
<Snowy> and the fact he still has the kidney stones, he can't do much
<c4pt> Squarepus whats Oedipus RSX ?
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<Squarepus> here is the thing
<Squarepus> as a public group
<Squarepus> you can't be 'selective' in what things you're going to release
<Snowy> here he comes.
<Squarepus> especially when you're sitting on stuff like this
<Squarepus> this is supposed to be a collaborative project
<Squarepus> it doesn't even get out to people within the group
<durandal> Squarepus: what the fuck is your problem?
<Squarepus> ah some straightforward no-nonsense talk at last
<durandal> btw i have a piece of spring steel up my urethra right now
<Squarepus> what my problem is
<durandal> so i'm not in too good a mood
<Squarepus> is twofold
<Squarepus> 1) that Oedipus RSX thing
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<Squarepus> 2) CEX->DEX that you have right now
<Squarepus> and won't share
<Squarepus> you know the method
<Squarepus> you can do it
<Squarepus> you got it from Math
<durandal> 1) i was working on converting it but i've been in a pain-induced coma most of the time
<durandal> wait till the stones get removed and you'll see a lot more
<Squarepus> you said it wasn't yours to share previously
<Squarepus> so which of the two is it?
<durandal> 2) see also pain-induced coma
<Squarepus> yeah I see that
<Squarepus> people tell me also when confronted with shit that they are internet less for two weeks and so
<Squarepus> so I'm not saying you're lying
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<Squarepus> would like this cleared up though
<durandal> ok i'll tell you what
<durandal> i'll trade with you
<Squarepus> what's there to trade?
<durandal> you can have my kidney stones and pain
<durandal> and i can bitch to you
<durandal> sound fair?
<Squarepus> well perhaps this is karma
<Squarepus> I don't believe in karma necessarily
<Squarepus> but perhaps there's a ring of truth to it
<Squarepus> http://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=14&gs_id=1i&xhr=t&q=durandal+soldierx
<Squarepus> found this too
<Squarepus> any truth to that?
<durandal> if there was think i'd still be a free man?
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<durandal> cause obviously i'm a pedophile that ruins everything
<durandal> WITH A SIX YEAR OLD SON
<Squarepus> didn't accuse you you were
<RichDevX> ew
<Squarepus> and seriously - that shit doesn't interest me
<Squarepus> only thing I came on here
<Squarepus> is because of the two aforementioned issues
<RichDevX> should we call the authorities?
<Squarepus> one being the CEX->DEX method that people are hoarding
<Squarepus> and two the money 'donation' thing
<Squarepus> which apparently went all to your account
<Squarepus> and you and I both know they were SDK samples
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<Squarepus> so that was a low blow
<durandal> ohyeah, cause I GAVE YOU THE FULL SDK
<durandal> FOR FREE
<durandal> AS A DEV
<durandal> you're right
<durandal> you have every reason to complain
<durandal> cause you have something nobody else here has
<durandal> except me
<durandal> and whoever i give access
<Squarepus> you have something no one else has right now too
<Squarepus> CEX->DEX
<Squarepus> the method that is
<durandal> yep
<Squarepus> and the thing is
<durandal> and it's not mine to give
<Squarepus> Math didn't 'give you' that method either
<durandal> you wanna swing dicks?
<RichDevX> durandal, please explain how you signed debug pkgs
<Squarepus> you figured that out or social engineered that somehow out of him
<RichDevX> I'd love to know how you did that :)
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<Squarepus> the thing is - you can't say 'it's not mine to give'
<Squarepus> when you never asked for it
<Squarepus> and just got it
<Squarepus> when you figure stuff out on your own
<Squarepus> then it's yours
<Squarepus> and you decide what happens with it
<Squarepus> can't say 'not mine to give'
<Squarepus> when Math only did your box
<Squarepus> and didn't give you the method necessarily
<RichDevX> :)
<durandal> he gave me enough of the method
<RichDevX> no he didn't
<Squarepus> so we have a problem here dude - you have something right now that you're keeping to yourself
<Squarepus> same as Math
<RichDevX> you have NO clue how he does it
<Squarepus> doesn't bode well for a public group
<RichDevX> Squarepus, trust me, it'll never be released for reasons I can't disclose
<durandal> you get math to message me and say i can release his part then fine
<durandal> cause my shit is contingent on that
<durandal> and RichDevX you are correct
<durandal> the FiveJewBankers own the method
<Squarepus> so in other words
<Squarepus> Gitbrew now totally relies on Math
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<durandal> also releasing anything on cex->dex is a great way for sony to pull out any and all support
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<Squarepus> 'to pull out any and all support'
<Squarepus> what you mean?
<Squarepus> in that you no longer get to hijack the process
<Squarepus> and get to convert boxes?
<durandal> i mean that geoff levand's done a lot to make our kernel hacks part of the mainstream linux kernel release
<durandal> and also get us legitimate status with several linux distros
<Squarepus> dude that is not what any of this shit is about
<Squarepus> and you know it
<Squarepus> that is not why you are withholding CEX-.DEX
<Squarepus> come on
<Squarepus> don't play this BS game
<durandal> basic rules for dealing with sony: don't rls dex shit
<durandal> or you get fucked
<CrashSerious> wait, what's sony supporting?
<CrashSerious> last I knew it only did much less than when I gought it.
<CrashSerious> *bought*
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<daxgr> hi
<Snowy> hey daxgr
<daxgr> hey Snowy
<daxgr> what's up?
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<CrashSerious> What's sony supporting again?
<daxgr> hmm what?
<nikitis> Snowy, latest debdroid work for tf?
<Snowy> yup :)
<nikitis> up'd to site?
<Snowy> yup the link works
<nikitis> k, i'll try it out soon
<nikitis> can it be used on external sdcard?  or internal only?
<Snowy> unsure i used internal
<nikitis> does it need formatting to ext2?
<Snowy> the internals have to be either ext2 or 3
<daxgr> ext4 ftw!
<nikitis> so i gotta format
<nikitis> or resize with gparted
<daxgr> gparted ftw!
<nikitis> not on my tf
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<Snowy> lol nikitis it worked out of box for me
<nikitis> Snowy, i tried it on my htc phone, and the sdcard didn't take too well
<nikitis> to reformatting
<nikitis> i resized it then formatted the 4gb to ext2,  but then android didn't work with it
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<RDX> best mod ever: http://twitpic.com/5lbr9m
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<Snowy> ah well damn :/
<daxgr> crappy 3g 2 GSM switching
<nikitis> does it matter to add the ext2 to the beginning of the card or the end?
<daxgr> hmm gotta go will work later
<daxgr> c u guys
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<eussNL> nikitis, start/end doesnt matter in speed on memory, only on circulair storage matter like harddrive, optical disks and floppy disks
<nikitis> not speed i'm concerned about
<nikitis> its ability for android to access it
<nikitis> on my phone i usedthe end of the drive
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<nikitis> but wouldn't mount at all
<nikitis> fat or ext2
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<nikitis> i guess i really know how to kill a room huh
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<nikitis> Just talk about real development, and the ps3scene mob goes away :P
<RichDevX> 1 ^ 1
<durandal> haha
<durandal> the ps3scene mafia?
<durandal> yeah it appears i have displeased the don
<durandal> :D
<durandal> or several of them
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<the_ps3_don> my son durandal i am not displeased
<the_ps3_don> :D
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<durandal> don corleone, thank you for your endorsement of gitbrew
<kamel> :D
<kamel> that was fun
<durandal> oh and giancana's still a psychopath
<durandal> :D
<RichDevX> durandal, how do you sign a debug pkg?
<durandal> sign it as a fself
<durandal> or a debug self
<durandal> what tools are you using?
<RichDevX> err, how is it related to an fself?
<durandal> debugs don't run normal selfs
<RichDevX> sure they do
<durandal> yeah they can
<durandal> if you set the shit to release
<RichDevX> shouldn't have to
<RichDevX> I mean, how do you physically sign the pkg
<RichDevX> not the fself
<durandal> C:\Users\durandal>make_package_npdrm --help
<durandal> usage: [revision 1754]
<durandal>     make_package_npdrm [options] config-file target-directory
<durandal>         -v | --verbose          increases verbose messages.
<durandal>         -f | --nofindlimit      no limitation to file find.
<durandal>         -o | --output DIR       output package to DIR.
<durandal>         -C | --directory DIR    change to DIR before doing anything.
<durandal>         --find-path PATH        set find command path to file find.
<durandal>         --content-id STRING     set ContentID.
<durandal>         --k-licensee HEX        set KLicensee.
<durandal>         --drm-type STRING       set DRMType.
<durandal>         --content-type STRING   set ContentType.
<durandal>         --package-version NUM   set PackageVersion.
<durandal>         --print-time            list modified time by W3C date & time format.
<durandal>         --print-universal-time  list modified time in UTC by W3C-DTF.
<durandal>         --print-locale-time     list modified time by locale format.
<durandal>     make_package_npdrm [options] target-directory
<durandal>         generate package with 'target-directory/package.conf'.
<durandal>         [options]               same as the above.
<durandal>     make_package_npdrm [options] npdrm-package [target]
<durandal>         [default]               print package informations.
<durandal>         -c | --check            check package format.
<durandal>         -l | --list             print [target] files/dirs information.
<durandal>         -x | --extract          extract [target] files/dirs.
<durandal>         --extract-tropdir       extract trophy files.
<durandal>         --no-entitlement        generate debuging package.
<durandal>     make_package_npdrm [options]
<durandal>         --version               print revision.
<durandal>         --help                  print help message.
<durandal> C:\Users\durandal>
<RichDevX> that's not signing though :|
<durandal> it signs as part of it
<durandal> you have to sign the files in it
<RichDevX> nope
<durandal> runs on mine after i do that
<RichDevX> yes, but it's not a signature
<durandal> yeah you don't need to do real sigs on dex shit
<durandal> they run fake signed shit
<RichDevX> no no, I mean debug pkgs aren't signed
<RichDevX> at all
<RichDevX> there's a hash at the end that you are free to modify
<durandal> and they won't run on your shit?
<RichDevX> I've known the pkg format for years, just wondering why you mean by signing
<RichDevX> what you mean*
<durandal> huh?
<RichDevX> because the scene will interpret it very differently
<durandal> i'm sorry
<durandal> maybe i don't understand what you're asking through all the pain
<durandal> please rephrase the whole thing
<RichDevX> What does a signature mean to you?
<durandal> signed for cex
<RichDevX> sure, retail pkgs are signed
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<RichDevX> But what does it mean?
<durandal> it means the packages is authenticated to run on a given version of sony fw
<durandal> like ms authenticode on a domain-controlled windows network
<DirtyJerz> i think i need thinner wire
<DirtyJerz> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/beefygauge.jpg/
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<durandal> DirtyJerz: wire should not be mentioned in my presence
<Snowy> damn DirtyJerz
<durandal> http://www.urostonecenter.com/management.asp
<durandal> currently i have option number 5
<durandal> in my dick
<durandal> i, too, wish for a thinner gauge of wire
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<DirtyJerz> fuckin A
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<durandal> RichDevX: love the rdx reference
<durandal> we should have a PETN in here too
<DirtyJerz> it warps the efi shield a lil bit so i think imma have to redo it...
<DirtyJerz> w/ a lighter gauge
<DirtyJerz> what do u think Snowy
<durandal> tell my urologist to do likewise
<DirtyJerz> durandal: you have RF shielding on your meat peg?
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<durandal> DirtyJerz: yeah
<durandal> the government got tired of reading my thoughts
<durandal> so they gave me that and a tinfoil showercap
<durandal> said if i ever took them off they'd just arrest me
<DirtyJerz> word