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Western /d/ discussion

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  1. Western /d/ discussion
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  3. (22:52:55) ‹+duanemoody› https://boards.4chan.org/co/res/39324077 Look, we don't want these people on /co/ and /d/'s "MUST BE GRORIOUS NIHON" edict makes no sense
  4. (22:53:05) ‹+duanemoody› pervs are pervs
  5. (22:53:46) ‹+duanemoody› either make a western /d/ or tell the /d/enizens to bend over because they should be used to that by now
  6. (22:54:26) ‹+duanemoody› at this point japanese themed boards on 4chan are the minority
  7. (22:54:29) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› I've suggested it before
  8. (22:54:46) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› the main reasoning seems to be the idea that most western art is shit
  9. (22:54:55) ‹+duanemoody› that's a retarded argument
  10. (22:55:04) ‹+duanemoody› who here is an artist
  11. (22:55:08) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› why
  12. (22:55:30) ‹+duanemoody› define 'quality' on a board devoted to reposting h manga
  13. (22:55:38) ‹+duanemoody› as opposed to letting people draw some
  14. (22:55:58) ‹+duanemoody› because frankly if i need to fap to tentacle porn i go to exhentai like a normal fag
  15. (22:56:25) ‹+duanemoody› /d/ is an incredibly slow moving board
  16. (22:56:40) ‹+duanemoody› perhaps if it didn't imagine itself a bastion of quality that might change
  17. (22:56:53) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› what
  18. (22:56:58) ‹+duanemoody› "most western art is shit" says who
  19. (22:57:05) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› says upper management
  20. (22:57:20) ‹+duanemoody› that's nice
  21. (22:57:24) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› no it isn't
  22. (22:57:31) ‹+duanemoody› i was being sarcastic
  23. (22:57:35) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› and I wasn't
  24. (22:58:17) ‹+VCR_Working› i'm an artist but i'm not getting involved in this argument :x
  25. (22:58:52) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› I think it's unfortunate that people have to go off-site to have a nsfw /co/
  26. (22:59:02) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› it's also silly
  27. (22:59:26) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› we could have had a decent community by now I bet
  28. (22:59:28) ‹+duanemoody› i think it's unfortunate that this site has a schizophrenic attitude about east v. west
  29. (22:59:33) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› wat
  30. (23:00:02) ‹+duanemoody› there should be /co/ separated from /a/ but there should only be an eastern /d/
  31. (23:00:56) ‹+duanemoody› the argument returns once again to "but the weeaboos will complain"
  32. (23:01:02) ‹+duanemoody› can't have toonami threads in /a/
  33. (23:01:04) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› why would they complain
  34. (23:01:12) ‹+duanemoody› can't have western content in /d/
  35. (23:01:26) ‹+duanemoody› can't have oelvns in /jp/
  36. (23:01:44) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› it has nothing to do with the users as far as I have been told, it's moot's edict unless I'm mistaken
  37. (23:02:04) ‹+fsdfdsf› I think the reason behind it would be that 4chan is likely to get sued by the western artists that will get posted because they'll see it as stealing since the people on 4chan aren't paying for their site
  38. (23:02:08) ‹+duanemoody› and i've heard here that the refrain is "our users will throw tantrums"
  39. (23:02:16) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› from who
  40. (23:02:33) ‹+duanemoody› weren't you here when we were discussing who would carry the toonami genereals
  41. (23:02:37) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› no
  42. (23:02:56) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› also what does it matter, they'll crosspost those forever anyway
  43. (23:03:19) ‹+VCR_Working› http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMTfWsb-jQk&feature=player_embedded
  44. (23:04:58) ‹+duanemoody› also i see someone's deleting digimon threads, for the record it's not me
  45. (23:05:12) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› I stopped
  46. (23:05:52) ‹%kdel› 4chan does need a nsfw western art board though
  47. (23:06:00) ‹+duanemoody› it does
  48. (23:06:14) ‹+duanemoody› it's why a lot of our drawfags migrated to tumblr
  49. (23:06:18) ‹+duanemoody› gj
  50. (23:06:33) ‹+duanemoody› well that and a number of creeps
  51. (23:06:35) ‹%kdel› i mean, i'd think there'd be as enough demand for that as there were people for the gay board
  52. (23:06:45) ‹%kdel› if not more
  53. (23:07:06) ‹+fsdfdsf› Western artists are more likely to sue
  54. (23:07:10) ‹+fsdfdsf› Just throwing that out
  55. (23:07:23) ‹+duanemoody› yeah you know what, we've had comic book creators in /co/
  56. (23:07:29) ‹+duanemoody› who KNOW their works are being piratd
  57. (23:07:34) ‹+duanemoody› C&D where
  58. (23:07:55) ‹%dongfix› hangover from hell urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
  59. (23:07:56) ‹%dongfix› hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
  60. (23:08:04) ‹+VCR_Working› vodka?
  61. (23:08:04) ‹%dongfix› needs another line exclusively for hhhhhhhhhhhh it's so bad
  62. (23:08:16) ‹+duanemoody› if the rationale here is "god forbid we have a DNP list" i'm not on board
  63. (23:08:35) ‹+fsdfdsf› There seems to be a line between the comics and the NSFW stuff, I thought the reason JG isn't allowed to be posted in /h/ was because a C&D had been recieved at one point
  64. (23:08:46) ‹+duanemoody› JG?
  65. (23:08:54) ‹+fsdfdsf› Jiggly girls
  66. (23:09:03) ‹+duanemoody› don't know the artist but ok
  67. (23:09:13) ‹+duanemoody› or is it a site like southerncharms
  68. (23:09:16) ‹%dongfix› reiq
  69. (23:09:26) ‹+fsdfdsf› I bet zone would sue
  70. (23:09:32) ‹+fsdfdsf› even though his stuff is posted every where
  71. (23:09:37) ‹+VCR_Working› lol
  72. (23:09:39) ‹+duanemoody› zone's shit has been endlessly reposted on /f/ where have you been
  73. (23:09:41) ‹+duanemoody› where
  74. (23:09:51) ‹%dongfix› zone has made flashes for 4chan
  75. (23:09:53) ‹+fsdfdsf› Not on /f/
  76. (23:09:58) ‹+duanemoody› nigga
  77. (23:10:04) ‹+duanemoody› i have downloaded his flashes from /f/
  78. (23:10:05) ‹+AoC› zone approves and does stuff for 4chan though
  79. (23:10:07) ‹+AoC› morning
  80. (23:10:16) ‹%kdel› evening
  81. (23:10:21) ‹+fsdfdsf› hi AoC
  82. (23:10:36) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› we had the latest issue of orc stain dumped by its creator before it even came out :>
  83. (23:10:52) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› granted was low-res but still
  84. (23:11:09) ‹+duanemoody› one creator was asked about piracy and his opinion and his response was "i know the difference between potential customers and those who aren't"
  85. (23:11:40) ‹+duanemoody› i've asked LCS managers if rapidshare has killed their business and they say "drop in the bucket, trades are murdering us"
  86. (23:11:54) ‹+duanemoody› because trades are sold at big box bookstore chains
  87. (23:11:58) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› yup
  88. (23:12:04) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› but those are on the out from what I can see
  89. (23:12:07) ‹+AoC› I admit I'm one of those that goes against a western toon porn board, mostly because I get horribly burned whenever I forget to toggle it off in exhentai. Too low quality, and the decent ones tend to be furry which is worrying. However, the creator angle you're pushing is interesting
  90. (23:12:09) ‹+duanemoody› trades are?
  91. (23:12:12) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› no
  92. (23:12:13) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› the stores
  93. (23:12:41) ‹+duanemoody› i will repeat, the people who want to look at western porn are entirely uninterested in our opinion of whether it's quality work or not
  94. (23:12:54) ‹+fsdfdsf› You can turn that off in the settings AoC so you never have to toggle again
  95. (23:12:55) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› we have a global rule concerning quality
  96. (23:13:03) ‹%kdel› lol
  97. (23:13:04) ‹+duanemoody› so enforce it
  98. (23:13:08) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› we do
  99. (23:13:20) ‹+duanemoody› don't say "we can't have niggers because so many of them throw folding chairs"
  100. (23:13:27) ‹%kdel› i know but still man, it's funny
  101. (23:13:31) ‹+AoC› man, moot yelled at me for enforcing global six last time, so we can't really claim that as a reason not to
  102. (23:13:39) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› don't make up analogies that don't apply because I just told you that the rule is enforced
  103. (23:14:12) ‹+duanemoody› there is quality western stuff, it is a disingenuous argument to claim there is not enough to populate a board
  104. (23:14:17) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› but I will admit that recently I've been told to stop being so harsh
  105. (23:14:31) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› and I'm not that harsh :(
  106. (23:14:37) ‹+AoC› I think the biggest question is if there's still big enough interest in it to justify a board and that it has enough content/people to be sustainable
  107. (23:14:37) ‹%kdel› well in any case, we should bring it up again the next time moots is talking on the channel
  108. (23:14:44) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› duanemoody there is no argument, though
  109. (23:14:57) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› I told you it was an edict
  110. (23:15:09) ‹%kdel› i think the only way to find out is to make a trial board
  111. (23:15:16) ‹+duanemoody› then i'll mention it to the edict-head
  112. (23:15:20) ‹+AoC› /r9k/ being deleted and never returning was an edict as well
  113. (23:15:20) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› he's right here
  114. (23:15:23) ‹%kdel› though in my opinion, i think there is
  115. (23:16:16) ‹+duanemoody› i'd like to be satisfied that the reason isn't a belief that the content/audience doesn't exist
  116. (23:16:17)  » Join: Volphied370 ‹~swordbrea@Rizon-2A9957C5.chello.sk›
  117. (23:16:18)  » ChanServ ‹+v› Volphied370
  118. (23:16:21) ‹+fsdfdsf› I know a western board would get rid of a lot of the stuff people try to start threads on /h/ about
  119. (23:16:25) ‹%kdel› yeah he's "here" but he's not always free enough to respond
  120. (23:16:50) ‹+duanemoody› and it would also give /co/ a breather from people who still believe a spoiler is a condom
  121. (23:17:00) ‹+VCR_Working› lol
  122. (23:17:13) ‹+fsdfdsf› I doubt it'll get rid of that, we have /h/ and people still post NSFW on /a/
  123. (23:17:19) ‹+duanemoody› i said a breather
  124. (23:17:23) ‹+duanemoody› i'm not naive
  125. (23:17:44) ‹%kdel› i miss the days of promotions
  126. (23:17:45) ‹+AoC› I really would like a nsfw checkbox. Sometimes you have to share something objectionable in a related board, like eroge in /jp/
  127. (23:17:48) ‹+duanemoody› man do i ever
  128. (23:17:59) ‹+duanemoody› i have so many promotions images no one will even get any more
  129. (23:18:17) ‹%kdel› i bet most people don't even understand its meaning nowadays
  130. (23:18:32) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› you never have to do anything on 4chan, you WANT to share something objectionable
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  132. (22:56:58) ‹+duanemoody› "most western art is shit" says who
  133. (22:57:05) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› says upper management
  134. (22:57:20) ‹+duanemoody› that's nice
  135. (22:57:24) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› no it isn't
  136. (22:57:31) ‹+duanemoody› i was being sarcastic
  137. (22:57:35) ‹%I_AM_ABIB› and I wasn't
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