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After 4chan

a guest May 20th, 2015 19 Never
  1. After 4chan
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  3. [18:46:17] <Troid> I thought moot was planning to sell 4chan back in mid-2012 when /q/ was created
  4. [18:46:23] <Troid> when's he just gonna go through with it already
  5. [18:48:02] <Kusanagi> Yo
  6. [18:48:05] <RapeApe> he already sold it to DARPA. now we can enslave anons with our progressive mind control beams.
  7. [18:48:08] <Kusanagi> I'll buy it for tree fiddity
  8. [18:48:15] <CuChulainn> thanks RapeApe
  9. [18:48:54] <FnFyZpXv> I wonder how will the web look the day 4chan shuts down for good
  10. [18:49:01] <FnFyZpXv> Also how many people will kill themselves
  11. [18:49:12] <CuChulainn> 8chan here we come
  12. [18:49:22] <FnFyZpXv> 8chan won't survive the winter
  13. [18:49:22] <Meadowlark>  pls no
  14. [18:49:31] <RapeApe> i think imageboards are a natural monopoly. if and when 4chan dies, an identical clone will replace it.
  15. [18:50:08] <RapeApe> or at least whatever replaces it will evolve to be indistinguishable from 4chan. even 8chan has adopted a lot of our policies out of necessity.
  16. [18:50:20] <CuChulainn> There will be wars right after
  17. [18:50:34] <CuChulainn> Internet wars over the heir
  18. [18:50:36] <FnFyZpXv> Mhm... I don't know, it's hard to think about it. Like what would happen if facebook suddenly disappears, it's unlikely that only one site will emerge
  19. [18:50:57] <FnFyZpXv> Most likely two or three copycats would try to grab the largest chunk of userbase
  20. [18:51:03] <Troid> running a small alternative to 4chan isn't hard. but running a 4chan successor with as much popularity would be
  21. [18:51:17] <Troid> I dunno if anyone would be able to handle it
  22. [18:51:24] <ALTERNATIVE> running a small troid is very hard
  23. [18:51:26] <FnFyZpXv> my point exactly, it'd be extremely hard to replicate the success
  24. [18:51:31] <Kobayashi> Someone is trying to force a meme / baitpost https://archive.moe/vg/search/text/%3Ehe%20bought%20an%20avenger/
  25. [18:52:07] <Kobayashi> Not sure if something should be done about it, but it's really getting on everyone's nerves in threads, often derailing them for hours.
  26. [18:54:41] <RapeApe> Kobayashi nah that's not something we need to get involved in.
  27. [18:55:37] <Kobayashi> I noticed it creates on-topic debates sometimes
  28. [18:55:42] <Kobayashi> So, I guess it's fine.
  29. [18:55:52] <Kobayashi> I'll just clear but keep an eye on just in case.
  30. [18:55:53] <RapeApe> i would like for moot to spearhead a 4chan successor that, since it would be starting fresh, can avoid all of the structural problems of 4chan itself.
  31. [18:56:14] <Kobayashi> Didn't he try with Canvas?
  32. [18:56:14] <RapeApe> while simultaneously maintaining 4chan as a separate entity.
  33. [18:56:16] *** Joins: Aliens (Aliens@i.wanna.be.the.very.best)
  34. [18:56:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Aliens
  35. [18:57:16] <RapeApe> i don't think canvas was really meant as that. canvas was about image manipulation and memes, and it wasn't actually a discussion site.
  36. [18:57:47] <RapeApe> moreover, canvas was as family friendly as you can get with total social media integration. not really a 4chan successor at all.
  37. [18:58:07] <Troid> if moot did start another discussion/imageboard, if you want it to be a fresh start, he'd probably have to do it with a different pseudonym.
  38. [18:58:57] <Meadowlark> How could he avoid ban evasion while keeping anonymity?
  39. [18:59:00] <Kobayashi> Good point. But how would a 4chan successor website made by mootykins look like? Would it be more community oriented, forum-based?
  40. [18:59:34] <Aliens> >yfw Reddit was cleverly created by moot this ntire time
  41. [18:59:41] <Aliens> *entire
  42. [18:59:43] <RapeApe> a login system of some sort would be a necessity. otherwise the site would be blacklisted by ad firms from the get-go.
  43. [18:59:52] <Kobayashi> Most importantly, I fear that if he'd try to start something new, most media would pick up on it and call it just a knee-jerk reaction to all the gamergate b/s
  44. [19:00:24] <RapeApe> more likely they'd call it a knee-jerk reaction to the fappening.
  45. [19:00:38] <RapeApe> GG is tiny. the fappening is enormous.
  46. [19:00:48] <Meadowlark> Both are shitty
  47. [19:00:57] <FnFyZpXv> Even the alexa rank skyrocketed with the fappening
  48. [19:01:06] <Kusanagi> How come if the fappening is so huge I don't care about it?
  49. [19:01:34] <Kobayashi> I'm sure they'd find a way to mention both
  50. [19:01:36] <Meadowlark> Cuz it's 3DPD Kus
  51. [19:01:39] <Kobayashi> for traction
  52. [19:01:40] <RapeApe> ^
  53. [19:02:05] <Scrubadour> there's a reason they call it 3DPD and that's because it's disgusting
  54. [19:03:02] <Aliens> Also, JLaw is gross.
  55. [19:03:13] <RapeApe> the trouble with a login system is that to be effective it has to be tied to an email address. users concerned about anonymity won't want us to have that sort of information on file.
  56. [19:03:18] <Kusanagi> Emily blunt nudes when?
  57. [19:03:36] <m0thman> the best and most minimal account site I've encountered is hacker news
  58. [19:03:42] <Kobayashi> I'm not into women, so 99% of the leaks were basically useless to me
  59. [19:03:46] <Scrubadour> http://shadow-over-anjira.tumblr.com/post/92654116030
  60. [19:04:02] <Kobayashi> Rape, I don't think Reddit needs an email
  61. [19:04:07] <Kobayashi> to have login stuff
  62. [19:04:10] <FnFyZpXv> 4chan's greatest strenght is also its greatest weakness
  63. [19:04:54] *** Joins: Katsurugi (~WinNT@Katsudon.Okonomiyaki.com)
  64. [19:04:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +h Katsurugi
  65. [19:05:01] <Troid> there are ways to mitigate the ban evasion problem without accounts or a lack of anonymity, but moot's resistance is to barriers to entry -- not logins specifically
  66. [19:05:08] <Scrubadour> you could have an account without an email
  67. [19:05:32] <Troid> none of those other methods would help you make a site more palatable to advertisers though
  68. [19:05:34] <Aliens> I still think the idea of a lurk ban is brilliant.
  69. [19:06:08] <RapeApe> Aliens, that would essentially ban mobile users, or anyone using wireless broadband.
  70. [19:06:35] <RapeApe> their IPs can change moment to moment through no conscious action of their own.
  71. [19:06:43] <Troid> mobile users would have to agree to retain cookies that identified that as having already passed the "lurk ban"
  72. [19:06:44] <Aliens> >browsing 4chan on your phone
  73. [19:06:50] <Troid> *identified them
  74. [19:07:08] <Scrubadour> >not browsing 4chan on your phone
  75. [19:07:24] <Aliens> You're right. I should have said >posting on 4chan from your phone
  76. [19:07:29] <Aliens> It's so awkward.
  77. [19:07:32] <Scrubadour> it is
  78. [19:07:37] <Scrubadour> but doable
  79. [19:08:01] <Aliens> I can't see why anyone would want to do that aside from shitposting without worrying about bans.
  80. [19:10:01] <Scrubadour> because sometimes i'm on the bus and reading books is for fags i'd rather post on 4chan
  81. [19:10:13] <Aliens> ur 4 fags
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