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  1. Scalzi weighs in.
  2. http://whatever.scalzi.com/2016/08/22/gum-on-the-shoe-of-history-or-why-the-hugos-are-still-not-destroyed/
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  4. So does John C. Wrong.
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  6. http://archive.is/MIRLU
  7. For daring to say that the award had been given for upwards of a decade now to less popular, less skillfully written, but more politically correct and more politically connected works, the Sad Puppies were savaged with a reckless disregard for the truth by all the usual suspects in the Guardian, i09, Gawker, and elsewhere in SJW-friendly sites. He also decries the Hugo voters’ rejection of Moira Greyland’s homophobic screed.
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  9. http://archive.is/IGHwL
  10. It is a pleasure to be alive during the last days of Social Justice Fandom. These creatures, by and large, are old, sickly and obese, and playing little more than a delaying game against time, hoping that the friendly press will keep the buying public in ignorance, deceived by hoopla, one year more, one month, one day, one hour.
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  12. Also, Damien Walter, who savages the Puppies at the Guardian, is a professional ignoramus who has continually failed to finish a novel the Queen’s loyal taxpayers in England are forced to pay him to write. An ox giving advice to a bull. I could gratuitously add that the man has a tin ear when it comes to prose, and yet poses as a judge of lyricism; the thing speaks for itself…. Mr Walter is jealous. The green eyes do not see clearly.
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  14. Andy Duncan witnessed Dave Truesdale’s behavior firsthand.
  15. https://www.facebook.com/andy.duncan.39794/posts/10153835799422467
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  17. Truesdale invoked the late David Hartwell in his rant. Hartwell’s widow, Kathryn Cramer, says in Duncan’s comments:
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  19. https://www.facebook.com/andy.duncan.39794/posts/10153835799422467?comment_id=10153836292027467&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D
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  21. So strange and interesting that what precipitated David Truesdale's ejection was partly his reporting of David Hartwell's thoughts relayed as second-hand conversation. My upset at learning of Truesdale's ejection was immediate and instantaneous upon hearing about it as social media snark without knowing what he had said or that it had anything to do with David. And David's line of conversation, having to do with incivility in the name of civility, comes out of years of long, in depth conversations with me about why I, for the most part, wouldn't go to conventions anymore. I had arrived at a point where I could no longer stand the collective targeting of people caught out at some real or imagined wrong. It no longer mattered whether I agreed politically with the target. Except in cases of extreme villainy on the part of the person who was it, watching the "kerfuffles" and the joy people took in them made me feel like my skin was being peeled, made me feel like I was in a nightmare of an unending serialization of Shirley Jackson's The Lottery. David's life was built around conventions; I stopped going to conventions. What followed from that was that I began the process of ending our marriage. What David was doing at the moment he fell down the stairs was getting his books out of my basement to take them to his house down the street. We were not yet divorced, but if he hadn't died, we probably would be by now. While the emerging hostility in the name of safety did not kill him, it was a key factor in the disintegration of our marriage. So, though he remained, it hurt him deeply. No, David H was not, in general, arguing against "political correctness". But what he may well have been arguing -- forgive me Andy, but I have not yet read the DGH memorial issue of LOCUS -- was against the routine relational aggression that has been normalized in our field in the name of what might be called political correctness, but which, once unleashed, can be used for pretty much anything. It's a very versatile tool. Just as I have not yet read the issue of LOCUS devoted to DGH, I probably won't listen to the panel tape for a while. Arguing that "political correctness" is the problem puts one on the wrong side of history, and many of the people who deploy the tactics that so upset me have legitimate grievances that need addressing. But as a field, we used to know how to disagree, how to be in the same room with someone who is wrong.
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  23. Kinda funny that Cramer’s complaining about having been “targeted”….
  24. http://fanlore.org/wiki/RaceFail_%2709#More_derails:_Will_Shetterly_and_Coffeeandink
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  26. When the argument between Shetterly and feminist blogger coffeeandink became heated, he and pro author-critic Kathryn Cramer outed coffeeandink, not as gay but linking her LiveJournal handle with her legal name. Shetterly and Kramer justified their action by pointing out that she had previously used her legal name in public posts on her LiveJournal.
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  28. Patrick Nielsen Hayden replies to her, with quite a bit of restraint IMO, that “this is a remarkably romanticized view of this field's history. The Worldcon, for instance, literally _began_ by excluding a bunch of people, for reasons much less defensible than the ejection that happened this year.”
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  30. Also in Duncan’s thread is a rant by a fellow named Wyman Cooke:
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  32. https://www.facebook.com/andy.duncan.39794/posts/10153835799422467?comment_id=10153835844217467&reply_comment_id=10153837042292467&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D
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  34. Tl;dr: There was once a con called ShevaCon that drew a lot of “Baen Barflies,” who supposedly comprised a sixth of con attendance. Then a Barfly who was on the concom “got thrown off it because of all the no good bad think people who didn't bow to the altar of liberialism [sic].” The other Barflies boycotted it, and it died within a few years.
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  36. I am told by someone familiar with the Barfly crowd is that even most of them dislike Cooke. He has boundary problems, both with women and girls (especially underage ones) and with John Ringo, to whom he is a creepily sycophantic fan.
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  38. Rogers Cadenhead (rcade) can’t STFU on the last several pages of this thread about how unfair it was that Truesdale was ejected from the comm:
  39. http://file770.com/?p=30403
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  41. He doesn’t think DT was “intentionally trying to hurt people,” fandom is “getting carried away with how we treat controversial speech,” and DT’s handing out of pearl necklaces was because he was “clueless about his audience.” He also links to a FB post of Darrell “Spicy Oriental Zeppelin Stories” Schweitzer’s that was approvingly reblogged by Moshe Feder, in which Schweitzer wringing his hands over “political correctness” and “The Ministry of Truth.”
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  43. https://www.facebook.com/feder/posts/10210376360509144?pnref=story
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  45. [Previous Schweitzer discussion on meme:
  46. http://fail-fandomanon.dreamwidth.org/210548.html?thread=1162317940#cmt1162317940 ]
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  48. Comments are a shitshow on both sides. Nazis can legally march through Jewish neighborhoods, and Worldcon is “the de facto public square of fandom's global community,” so DT’s freeze peach has been violated! The things he did “are not even rare on Worldcon panels”! Cons are “starting to have too many rules,” which hurt “unpopular freethinkers”! 1970s fandom was awesome because you could be as offensive as you wanted! Lenny Bruce!! Geek social fallacies!!! PC hurts Native Americans because you can’t talk about their alcoholism anymore!!!! The opposition is mostly one woman who analogizes modding a panel to conducting a therapy session and asserts that men are, “as we know, are genetically inferior to women.” Jim Hines, Nick Mamatas, and Mary Robinette Kowal make guest appearances.
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  50. Rcade is also rules-lawyering in the thread to this follow-up post by Hines, who points out that DT “violated multiple items of Worldcon’s posted code of conduct” and had a history of worrisome behavior. (Hines also scolds himself for having taken on Neo_Prodigy as a co-editor last year without having investigated his background.)
  51. http://www.jimchines.com/2016/08/more-worldcon-thoughts/
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  53. Hines’ initial post blew up to 200+ comments, in which Charlie Stross is accused of “McCarthyism,” the name Goebbels and the phrase “The Big Lie” are thrown around, and it’s asserted that DT’s bannination is “a rejection of our whole history of intellectual tradition? The Socratic method, the adversarial system of justice… argument has been at the center of intellectual life for millennia.”
  54. http://www.jimchines.com/2016/08/worldcon-expels-truesdale/
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  56. Back on File 770, among those arguing with rcade is Meredith, who says that at during DT’s harangue at least one audience member began to cry. “I believe one person said they were sitting behind someone who started crying, and another person later said that they personally started crying. I don’t know if the posts are about the same individual or if there were two separate people.”
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  58. This blogpost describes the “large guy in the audience” who berated Neil Clarke for turning his back on DT and shouted at all the other panelists for their “lack of respect.”
  59. http://www.deathisbadblog.com/puppies-prove-impotent/
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  61. Deathisbad said they might have run into the same guy at the Business Meeting: “During the meeting a big dude took the floor out of order, and nearly refused to yield. Though he did return to his seat, he was angry and aggressive for the entire 3SV debate. He had the beefy look of ex-military or ex-cop, and his tone and body language was very much ‘gearing up for a fight.’”
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  63. This is the account of the “large guy,” who was also banned from Worldcom:
  64. http://darthtroutman.livejournal.com/33990.html
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  66. This blogger says that Clarke “turned ashen,” and praises Sheila Williams for how she tried to handle DT.
  67. http://www.alarmhat.com/worldcon-2016/
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  69. This Storify by Howard Tayler doesn’t name any names, but it’s patently about DT.
  70. https://storify.com/howardtayler/moderating-convention-panels
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  72. Both Bo Bolander and Alyssa Wong reported harassment at WorldCon, though Wong has praised the staff for their quick response.
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  74. https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/767051924407451648
  75. https://twitter.com/BBolander/status/767007165588516865
  76. https://twitter.com/BBolander/status/767007577834000385
  77. https://twitter.com/crashwong/status/767011115469418496
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  79. (I … kinda want someone to ask Bolander why she hangs out with so many people who defend Winterfox, or at least got all hand-wringy about Winterfox being called out.)
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  81. The people who were harassing Bolander and Wong are named herein:
  82. http://bullspec.com/2016/08/23/statement-on-suspending-the-exploding-spaceship-column/
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  84. From what I hear, over the years they have made utter nuisances of themselves among the Baen community by talking over panel presenters, shoehorning themselves into conversations, presuming friendships and mentorships with authors that did not exist, and even worming their way into a pros-only, invite-only authors’ dinner.
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  86. More harassment (warning for homophobic slur):
  87. http://birdsbeforethestorm.net/2016/08/from-a-snowflake-of-science-fiction/
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  89. A piece by Amanda Marcotte on Slate about the “alt-right” hijacking the Hugos:
  90. http://www.salon.com/2016/08/23/the-alt-right-attacks-sci-fi-how-the-hugo-awards-got-hijacked-by-trumpian-style-culture-warriors/
  91. http://archive.is/cpGHE
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  93. Finally, Dr. Tingle weighs in again:
  94. https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/767904454636994560
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