david - Today at 12:50 AM
i assume at some point you noticed that i wasn't picking up on anything secondary(edited)
why did saying something become not an option
was it better to keep it that way and let things like this go unsaid?
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:50 AM
sure lets dive into it i guess
for this specific example, david, yes, you were supposed to come to me a week ago, and apologize
we could have squashed it
and moved on
you are supposed to know that your behavior on that night was unacceptable, for your best friend, your family, much less a random person you met in the last 3 months
you are supposed to have a concious telling you "man that was acttually kinda fucked lol maybe i scared victtor by holding a loaded firearm in his face with my finger on the trigger"
this, "awkard" discussion
and tonights outburst
is a direct result of you not being able to comprehend how fucked up your actions were
if you said a slur, or ssomething offensive, or somethtiing that irked me
i would have told you in a private way. liike, no, you aren't supposed to know i don't liike the word "applesauce"
but you are supposed to know not to point a gun at someone
and then laugh and joke about it
david - Today at 12:53 AM
the way you mentioned it sounded like a joke
before tonight I had no idea you were like actually terrified
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:54 AM
my man thiss is what fucks me up
david - Today at 12:54 AM
and I should have known, you were right
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:54 AM
how do you not understand that guns are intriinsiically scary
david - Today at 12:54 AM
I only wish you had told me before
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:54 AM
i shouldn't have to tell you
this iis my poiint
this is liike telling you not to jump into a woodchipper
i wish you had told me earlier not to hit myself in the dick with a hammer victtor
david - Today at 12:54 AM
my only experience with bb guns is getting shot with one and having it hurt midlly
you're right but what I'm really trying to say is that you didn't have to have this conversation in front of everyone
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:55 AM
you... pulled it out of me david
how do you not see that
i told you immediately that was wrong
not iin a jokey way
everyone else did too
and then you just kept... joking
probably because it dawned on you that it was fucked up, and you want to contiinue makiing people laugh
i get it
david - Today at 12:56 AM
yeah cause i realized you actually got scared
but like
why did you have to do that in front of everyone
did you really need to
you couldn't pm me?
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:57 AM
sure i could have
but maybe,
you could have too
a week ago
after doing it
you pulled it out of me david
david - Today at 12:57 AM
until tonight I didn't understand how scared you were
which is why I didn't think much of it
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:57 AM
you came at me, with complete disregard for my emotions, jokingly referring to that moment
and you want me to... respect you
and pm you
that isn't how shit works my man
david - Today at 12:58 AM
if you had just said the day after "hey David you really scared me" it would have been a different story
so you felt like you had to work it out publicly
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:58 AM
i didn't have to do that, and maybe a more mature person would have messaged you privately, but in honesty, you were pissiing me off so much that it wasn't fucking getting to you SSTILL
not to mention everyone in the chat was present
when it happened
david - Today at 12:59 AM
you were immature
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:59 AM
you were tenfold immature on several occasions leading up to it
so i guess you still owe me iin this emotional warfare you seem to enjoy conducting
i want to forgive you and be understanding because you're still 18
but you are making me mad now, david
david - Today at 1:00 AM
this is what happens when you let things go unsaid
both of us are thinking to each other "how does this person not get it"
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:00 AM
im glad i was the person who taught you that you shouldn't point guns at peoples faces
david - Today at 1:00 AM
and now it comes out in the worst way
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:00 AM
it wont happen again
right
david - Today at 1:00 AM
it won't
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:00 AM
great, most people wouldn't let it happen a first time
we aren't compariing apples to apples here david
david - Today at 1:01 AM
im not trying to make a comparison
you were right and I don't dispute that
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:01 AM
you are 100% undoubtedly unbridledly in the wrong from anyones perspective and the fact that you're sitting here scrambling looking for things to blame me on is fucking infuriattiing
just
fucking stop
and say okay, lets move on
i already forgave you
david - Today at 1:02 AM
ok
but i want to say for the future that if we talk and you don't want me to please tell me
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:02 AM
i will be sure to
nobody else in my lifie though, david, noboddy else asks for this
not even kiids younger than you
david - Today at 1:03 AM
because I left that conversation we had thinking we established some level of understanding
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:03 AM
nah sorry man it barely rung any bells
david - Today at 1:04 AM
you saying that now rather than earlier pulls out the rug from the way I thought about it(edited)
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:04 AM
then lets gett it straight i'm happy to hang with you smoke pot play games and listen to music
talking about life advice in victor's direction? nah
and ii won't give any to you either unless you ask
david - Today at 1:05 AM
that's totally fine
i just wish you told me this earlier because now, again, were having to fix it after the fact(edited)
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:06 AM
what do you want me to do go back in time and prevent you from pointiing a gun at me
stop, david
please
stop
we have moved past it
david - Today at 1:06 AM
these are seperate things were talking about
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:06 AM
if you never did that we would have no need for this convo
that advice you gave me wasn't half bad
it became 100% bad when you pointed a gun at me 15 minutes later
david - Today at 1:06 AM
im taking about the "i didn't really want you to keep talking but I didn't want to say anything" bit
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:07 AM
yeah sorry for being polite then i guess i had no idea it would lead to this situation?
david - Today at 1:07 AM
the two are not really connected
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:07 AM
no amount of "awkwardness" i put you throguh tonight compares to what you did
you even still talking about it is amaziing
david - Today at 1:07 AM
they're not conmected
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:08 AM
i am aksing you kiindly to stop
david - Today at 1:08 AM
ok
victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:08 AM
thank you