- [01:47] <Tdrtnlz> just because uvh don't play iv, doesn't mean we aren't active
- [01:47] <Tdrtnlz> we are primarily a sa-mp clan, we do not claim to be active in gta4
- [01:49] <[W]Hooligan> I know this, but UvH isnt there for [W] at all. Been that way for awhile now. I always respect UvH, but our time as allies has ended.[W] stands alone, because even when we had allies we were still alone.
- [01:49] <Tdrtnlz> uvh has not been there for w?
- [01:49] <[W]Hooligan> I don't even feel the need to tell Uzi myself because Uzi is long gone
- [01:49] <Tdrtnlz> whenever w play sa-mp, uvh back them up, and vice versa
- [01:49] <Tdrtnlz> there is such a thing as real life
- [01:49] <[W]Hooligan> ofcourse
- [01:50] <[W]Hooligan> I'm not trying to be a dick, all I'm saying is [W] rides alone. UvH can't help us anymore or anylonger.
- [01:50] <Tdrtnlz> you cannot blame uvh for not backing w up when we are a sa-mp clan, and w has become inactive in sa-mp
- [01:51] <[W]Hooligan> You'll always have my thanks for the times when you did help.
- [01:51] <Tdrtnlz> well you're not doing a good job convincing me you're not trying to
- [01:51] <Tdrtnlz> where has this all come from? it seems like you just came out with it out of the blue
- [01:52] <[W]Hooligan> All of this is coming from [W]'s current situation. Everyone turned their backs on [W] so we're turning our backs on them. Simple as that
- [01:52] <Tdrtnlz> uvh never turned their backs on w
- [01:52] <Tdrtnlz> that's bs
- [01:53] <[W]Hooligan> its a new [W]arriors clan now...sadly
- [01:53] <Tdrtnlz> stop avoiding my points
- [01:53] <[W]Hooligan> I was happy with the way thing were. Thats wasnt good enough for everyone else though
- [01:53] <[W]Hooligan> UvH just wasnt there
- [01:53] <Tdrtnlz> what are you talking about
- [01:53] <[W]Hooligan> as far as im concerned that is turning your back
- [01:54] <Tdrtnlz> be specific
- [01:54] <[W]Hooligan> in general, during [W]'s most harsh times I don't ever recall seeing the whole of UVH present
- [01:54] <[W]Hooligan> besides all of your ties to [W] are gone
- [01:54] <[W]Hooligan> I was never close to any of you besides Uzi
- [01:55] <Tdrtnlz> so why bring this up now? why not bring it up when w was going through hard times?
- [01:55] <[W]Hooligan> theres no need to carry on Uzi's work
- [01:55] <Tdrtnlz> well you may personally not have been... but i can tell you we were close to other members of W... fatetrip, blind, aztec, maddolis, jemte etc
- [01:55] <[W]Hooligan> Sorry man I know I sound like a dick
- [01:56] <Tdrtnlz> there is more to W than just you
- [01:56] <[W]Hooligan> well blind and jemte can decide for themselves. Seeing as how neither one of them play anymore though I dont think it really matters
- [01:56] <Tdrtnlz> just like there is more to UvH than just UzI
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> [W] rightnow is Me, PerebruM, ZiG and Jemte
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> everyone else is just a filler on the roster
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> you get where I coming from?
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> theres 4 left
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> thats fucking it
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> [W] is on the brink
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> and UvH doesnt possess half of what it takes to help revive a clan like [W]
- [01:57] <Tdrtnlz> you mean the 4 who play gta4
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> its a new age man..
- [01:57] <[W]Hooligan> nah ZiG plays sa-mp
- [01:57] <Tdrtnlz> no it's not
- [01:58] <Tdrtnlz> gta4 is not popular
- [01:58] <Tdrtnlz> it never will be
- [01:58] <Tdrtnlz> it never will be
- [01:58] <[W]Hooligan> besides [W] is about to head down a path that UvH will not want to be part of
- [01:58] <Tdrtnlz> oh really
- [01:58] <Tdrtnlz> thank you for asking us first
- [01:58] <[W]Hooligan> yeah really
- [01:58] <Tdrtnlz> it seems that you don't care about us anyway
- [01:58] <[W]Hooligan> I don't have to ask, Uzi is gone and with him any need to have anything approved first
- [01:59] <[W]Hooligan> I've always respected UvH
- [01:59] <[W]Hooligan> but to be honest rightnow, lately, no I don't care
- [01:59] <Tdrtnlz> then why say anything at all? why bring this up?
- [01:59] <[W]Hooligan> I'm not saying none of us can be friends
- [01:59] <Tdrtnlz> well you are really
- [01:59] <[W]Hooligan> I'm just saying I no longer have UvH's back
- [02:00] <Tdrtnlz> you're saying you don't care about us
- [02:00] <Tdrtnlz> you're denying any bonds or friendships we've made with you
- [02:00] <Tdrtnlz> and you're saying you don't need us any more
- [02:00] <Tdrtnlz> that's pretty much saying you don't want to be friends
- [02:00] <Tdrtnlz> you need to wake up
- [02:00] <Tdrtnlz> the world does not revolve around you
- [02:00] <[W]Hooligan> In a way yeah I am saying that, I'm also saying UvH doesnt need [W] anymore
- [02:01] <[W]Hooligan> Say if UvH was in need on sa-mp
- [02:01] <[W]Hooligan> [W] couldnt answer that call
- [02:01] <[W]Hooligan> because we dont even have enough members to do that
- [02:01] <[W]Hooligan> understand?
- [02:01] <Tdrtnlz> no because only fatetrip is active
- [02:01] <Tdrtnlz> but he would answer
- [02:01] <Tdrtnlz> because that's what allies are for
- [02:01] <Tdrtnlz> in the face of sure loss
- [02:01] <Tdrtnlz> they help anyway
- [02:02] <Tdrtnlz> they don't do things like this
- [02:02] <[W]Hooligan> Fatetrip is no longer affiliated with [W] so hes not my concern
- [02:03] <[W]Hooligan> [W] is incapable of coming to UvH's aid. There for theres no reason to even be allies.
- [02:03] <[W]Hooligan> friends sure, but allies is just unrealistic
- [02:04] <[W]Hooligan> the only reason we were affiliated is because of sa-mp. With sa-mp gone the way of the do do theres no need to beat around the bush anymore
- [02:05] <Tdrtnlz> but we didn't quit sa-mp
- [02:05] <Tdrtnlz> you did
- [02:06] <[W]Hooligan> nah I did not [W], but the rest of [W] who were playing sa-mp quit recently so theres no need. I'll leave it up to ZiG if he still wants to ally with UvH in sa-mp
- [02:06] <[W]Hooligan> he can help you all he likes
- [02:06] <[W]Hooligan> and if im there i probably would too out of respect to the old times
- [02:06] <Tdrtnlz> but if you play sa-mp you'll shoot us?
- [02:06] <Tdrtnlz> so actually nothing has changed then?
- [02:07] <[W]Hooligan> but im not gonna put any effort into sa-mp and im not gonna even recruit out of sa-mp anymore
- [02:07] <[W]Hooligan> I might shoot ya
- [02:07] <[W]Hooligan> lol dont know
- [02:07] <Tdrtnlz> whatever man
- [02:07] <Tdrtnlz> you sound like you don't even know what you mean yourself
- [02:08] <Tdrtnlz> i'll let you sleep on this before pursuing any further
- [02:08] <[W]Hooligan> what I mean is I dont really rely or care about having any alliance with any other clan including UvH
- [02:08] <[W]Hooligan> thats all I'm saying
- [02:08] <[W]Hooligan> ZiG may feel different
- [02:09] <[W]Hooligan> theres no group discussion in [W] anymore though, so he can do whatever the fuck he likes