Joshua

[13:46] <pizzaboy192> just remove anyone with less than 20 posts
01[13:47] <J-Byrne> No, some people with less than 20 still deserve to be there...
[13:47] <pizzaboy192> or anyone who isnt advanced yet, and posts those dumb ones
[13:47] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> people like you, you mean
[13:47] <pizzaboy192> lol
01[13:47] <J-Byrne> There the thing, how do you decide...
[13:47] <pizzaboy192> i really dont mind either way, i would just delete those posts...
[13:47] <pizzaboy192> or have a minimum word limit
[13:48] <pizzaboy192> "all posts must be atleast 10 words long"
[13:48] <pizzaboy192> something like that
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> thats stupid
[13:48] <pizzaboy192> why?
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> what if you need to post a single word reply
[13:48] <pizzaboy192> what would it be? "fake" "die" "lol"?
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> 'Who here thinks windows is amazing'
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> not me
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yes
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> maybe
[13:48] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> sorta
[13:48] <pizzaboy192> well
[13:48] <pizzaboy192> 5+ words then
[13:49] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and the amount of code and mods ud have to do
[13:49] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> it wudnt be worth it
[13:49] <pizzaboy192> true...
[13:49] <pizzaboy192> i speak, then i think...
[13:49] <pizzaboy192> sorry
[13:49] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> well swap them around
[13:49] <pizzaboy192> praise the lord for the delete key
[13:49] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> the lord doesnt exist
[13:49] <pizzaboy192> really?
[13:49] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yes
[13:49] <pizzaboy192> why do you say that?
[13:50] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> well strictly speaking i shouldnt, i should say that i infact, dont believe there is a god
[13:50] <pizzaboy192> oh
[13:50] <pizzaboy192> so your an athiest?
[13:50] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yes
[13:50] <pizzaboy192> kewl
[13:50] <pizzaboy192> never met one
[13:51] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> because i dont like the idea that im gonna go to hell and burn for enternity just because of my beliefs or preferences
[13:51] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> if jesus died for all our sins, why cant we sin?
[13:52] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and if we sin we go to hell and burn for eternity, and yet god loves us?
[13:53] <pizzaboy192> we can sin
[13:53] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yeah i spose, but we'll burn in hell for it
[13:53] <pizzaboy192> we can sin, and we are forgiven for it
[13:53] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no we're not
[13:53] <pizzaboy192> the only way you will burn is if you say that jesus wont
[13:54] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> err, you need to read the bible my friend, the only mentioning of forgiveness is when jesus died for our sins
[13:54] <pizzaboy192> thats all the forgiveness we need
[13:54] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> that confession shit that catholics made up is to make up for this void
[13:54] <pizzaboy192> <german lutheran
[13:54] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> so hang on
[13:54] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no what
[13:54] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> that doesnt make sense
[13:55] <pizzaboy192> the only person you need to confess a sin to is yourself
[13:55] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> wrong, the bible doesnt say that
[13:55] <pizzaboy192> when you acknowledge that you sinned, then you can ask for forgiveness
[13:55] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but the bible doesnt say anyware you can ask for forgiveness
[13:55] <pizzaboy192> it does
[13:55] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no it doesnt
[13:55] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> i sir, have read the bible, in my boredness
[13:55] <pizzaboy192> what part of the bible?
[13:56] <pizzaboy192> beginning, middle or end?
[13:56] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> new testement
[13:56] <pizzaboy192> ok
[13:56] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no point reading the old
[13:56] <pizzaboy192> now, when you read it, did you read where jesus says "your sins are forgiven" multiple times
[13:56] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> jesus says in the new testement to disregard everything that happened before him
[13:56] <pizzaboy192> ?
[13:56] <pizzaboy192> where?
[13:56] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> cant remember
[13:56] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but its in there
[13:56] <pizzaboy192> ok
[13:56] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> thats why even though the old testement says that christians cant eat shell fish
[13:56] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> they do anyway
[13:57] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> because its ruled out
[13:57] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and yes
[13:57] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> that is in the bible
[13:57] <pizzaboy192> the only reason God told them to do that, is because they did not have a proper way to cook the shell fish
[13:57] <pizzaboy192> God has the good of the people in his mind
[13:57] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but if you eat shellfish and hate homosexuals because its in the bible then ur a hipocrite
[13:57] <pizzaboy192> he does not want you to burn in hell
[13:57] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> because thats in the old  testement too
[13:57] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yes he does
[13:57] <pizzaboy192> true
[13:57] <pizzaboy192> being gay is not bad
[13:57] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> why would there be a hell if he didnt want u to burn in it
[13:57] <pizzaboy192> having wild gay sex is
[13:58] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no it isnt
[13:58] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> personal preferance
[13:58] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and why would god go
[13:58] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> 'damn they cant cook shellfish, ill make it a sin to eat them'
[13:58] <pizzaboy192> there is a hell for the people who choose to go against god
[13:58] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> exactly
[13:58] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but he loves us
[13:59] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and doesnt want us to burn in  hell
[13:59] <pizzaboy192> yes, would god want you to die because of some sickness?
[13:59] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yeah
[13:59] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> or he wudnt have created sickness
[13:59] <pizzaboy192> he loves us, but if we dont love him, he wont reach out to help
[13:59] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> as he created everything
[13:59] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> thats a poor excuse to bridge the gap
[13:59] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> you're making crap up now
[13:59] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> it doesnt say that in the bible
[13:59] <pizzaboy192> he did not create sickness, Adam and EVE created sickness when they used free will to eat the forbidden fruit
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> wrong
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> he created sickness
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> they just released it
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and because of what is written in the bible
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> began 10,000 years of women being looked down on
[14:00] <pizzaboy192> true
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and apparently the bible is gods word
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but he loves us?
[14:00] <pizzaboy192> but that was because someone had free will
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> so because of him
[14:00] <pizzaboy192> god loves us
[14:00] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> billions of women
[14:01] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> have been beaten to death
[14:01] <pizzaboy192> he does not want us to die, he wants to save us, but we have to do our part
[14:01] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> as a indirect result of what he has put in the bible
[14:01] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but hang on, he created the universe, why stop?
[14:01] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> he created everything
[14:01] <happydude> SEX
[14:01] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and loves us
[14:01] <pizzaboy192> he put what he put in the bible, and people twisted what he said
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[14:01] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> Indeed.
[14:02] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> this conversation is over
[14:02] <@Andy> lol didn't even realise it was 3am
[14:02] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> neither did i
[14:02] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> lol
[14:02] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> i shud go
[14:02] <@Andy> =D
[14:02] <@Andy> bai
[14:02] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> bai
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[14:02] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> pizzaboy192: watch this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8326751378465566104
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and this:
[14:03] <pizzaboy192> well...
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and come back and tell me religeon isnt a load of fat bollocks
[14:03] <pizzaboy192> i must say: if god wanted us to die, why did he just kill adam and eve instead of letting them live?
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> easy
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> *why didnt he just kill them?
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> why should he?
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> plus, he didnt even create them, because he doesnt exist
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> he didnt kill them, because he wanted them to be saved
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> the bible is nothing more than a book
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> why
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> dude
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> think of it like this
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> its like a person who is falling, they can only be saved if they do their part
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> you know lego?
[14:03] <pizzaboy192> yes
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> right
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> you make something awesome
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yeah
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but you dont wanna break it
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> right?
[14:03] <pizzaboy192> right, you want to fix it when it gets Fukked up
[14:03] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> think of that as god with adam and eve
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but imagine
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> if you made trillions of them
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> you wouldnt give a shit if one broke
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> well...
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> if we're in the image of god
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> think of it this way
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and we're like god
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> why wouldnt he think that
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> instead of trillions that are the same, you make trillions that are each differant
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yeah
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> like trillions that each have a personality
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> each have a purpose
[14:04] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no
[14:04] <pizzaboy192> that another doeosnt
[14:05] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no
[14:05] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> nobody in this world
[14:05] <pizzaboy192> you are saying that you arent differant than any other person out ther?
[14:05] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> has a purpose
[14:05] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yeha pretty much
[14:05] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> im the same as billions of other people
[14:05] <pizzaboy192> well... i can prove that one wrong
[14:05] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> can you now
[14:05] <pizzaboy192> you are basically saying that you are like hitler, like fidel castero...
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[14:05] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yep
[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> i am
[14:06] <pizzaboy192> but at the same time you are saying that you are like bill gates, and steve jobs.
[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yep
[14:06] <pizzaboy192> and still you are like the worlds worst killers.
[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yep
[14:06] <pizzaboy192> and the people in PETA.
[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> i dont act like them though
[14:06] <pizzaboy192> but how?
[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> err well
[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> im human
[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> im only human, i just didnt take the same path in life
[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> as any of those people
[14:06] <pizzaboy192> so basically, you wouldnt mind if someone came and killed your family, because we have no purpose in life?
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[14:06] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no, i would hate that
[14:07] <pizzaboy192> right
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[14:07] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but imaging if you killed a family of lego people
[14:07] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> would you give a damn?
[14:07] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no
[14:07] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> u wouldnt
[14:07] <pizzaboy192> but we arent legos
[14:07] <pizzaboy192> we are people
[14:07] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> no its a metaphor
[14:07] <pizzaboy192> we are not the same as everyone else, we are all differant
[14:07] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> its comparing god to you, and us to lego
[14:07] <pizzaboy192> we are like bricks for legos
[14:07] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> okay even then
[14:07] <pizzaboy192> we each have a job
[14:07] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> if all ur lego people were different
[14:08] <pizzaboy192> if you were one lego, and i am another, i cant do your job
[14:08] <Andrew> Quoted: <pizzaboy192> we are not the same as everyone else, we are all differant
[14:08] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> and let me ask you a question
01[14:08] <J-Byrne> God this is boring to read...
[14:08] <Andrew> Indeed.
[14:08] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> so?
[14:08] <pizzaboy192> im a german lutheran, i am bred to help those in need
[14:08] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> but you're different
[14:08] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> being bred makes you the same
01[14:08] <J-Byrne> I am Australian, bred t not give a shit...
[14:08] <@BA_Bot> J-Byrne: Stop swearing! You have been warned 3 times out of 3
[14:09] <pizzaboy192> well...
[14:09] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> i am english, born to drink tea and que up just to have a bloody good moan afterwards
[14:09] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> dude
[14:09] <pizzaboy192> if we were all the same, we wouldnt even be having this converstion
[14:09] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> yes we would
[14:09] <pizzaboy192> why?
01[14:09] <J-Byrne> Don't forget invade other countries, and kill natives :P
[14:09] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> you just said we were all different
[14:09] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> ahh
[14:09] <pizzaboy192> we would be all the same
[14:09] <pizzaboy192> you said we are all the same
[14:09] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> the true american spirit
[14:10] <pizzaboy192> and we arent, obviously
[14:10] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> you said we were different
[14:10] <pizzaboy192> we are differant
[14:10] <pizzaboy192> but you said we are all the same
[14:10] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> dude i really cant be shitted with this anymore
[14:10] <pizzaboy192> ok
[14:10] <pizzaboy192> 1 more metaphore
[14:10] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> how about i tell you a story
[14:10] <pizzaboy192> lets say we were all the same
[14:10] <pizzaboy192> and someone killed the person next to you
[14:11] <pizzaboy192> you wouldnt care, but the person who worked hard to make that person would
[14:11] <Andrew> Here's a methaphor: "pizzaboy192 aka [Billy]"
[14:11] <pizzaboy192> how is that?
[14:11] <pizzaboy192> im a german lutheran
[14:11] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> my uncle worked in a charity shop as well as doing his full time job, for 20 years, he got cancer and died. Hitler didnt.
[14:11] <pizzaboy192> [Billy] is an ass
[14:11] <Andrew> Indeed.
[14:11] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> dude i cant be fucked
[14:11] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> i know i won coz ur arguments were mostly made up
[14:12] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> you havnt even read what you believe in
[14:12] <pizzaboy192> ki-chi-mi: he did what he needed to do, god called him home, and he is in peace
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[14:12] <@Ki-Chi-Mi> so god
[14:12] <pizzaboy192> doing good works has nothing to do with being saved
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