- [22:27] <Eejtop> nevermind the fact that ti's not airing on any networks that are readily cappable
- [22:27] <Kold> just sub tytania
- [22:27] <Kold> or older shows
- [22:27] <Lolfang> yeah Tytania would be a good one
- [22:27] <Lolfang> and you'd still get to compete with menclave
- [22:29] <Lolfang> or you could take a stab at linebarrels
- [22:29] <Eejtop> gonzo
- [22:29] <Eejtop> hiraishi
- [22:29] <Lolfang> it might not be TOO awful
- [22:29] <Eejtop> no thanks
- [22:30] <Eejtop> tytania can be done with gattai, so really, no reason to not do gundam 00
- [22:31] <Lolfang> well, I don't really see why you'd want to though
- [22:31] <Lolfang> everything gg can provide, I'm also using.
- [22:31] <desudesu> Gundam 00 sidestory manga, does it exist?
- [22:32] <Lolfang> Plus, everyone in the know knows that gg, nyoron, and menclave are bffs
- [22:32] <desudesu> Astraea's design's starting to grow on me. Wanna see it kick some ass in the manga =3=
- [22:32] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> V and P?
- [22:32] <desudesu> I dunno, whichever one that Astraea made an appearance in
- [22:33] <Lolfang> F
- [22:33] <desudesu> http://www.geocities.jp/hetare_d_max/gallery-1.100_GundamAstraea_Type-F.html <- just look at this sexy motherfucker
- [22:33] <Nirvash_> I've always loved the Type F
- [22:33] <Lolfang> Zeonic has done the first two chapters
- [22:33] <Eejtop> [10:32:16 am] <@Lolfang> Plus, everyone in the know knows that gg, nyoron, and menclave are bffs
- [22:33] <Eejtop> wat
- [22:33] <Eejtop> wat
- [22:33] <Eejtop> wat
- [22:33] <Eejtop> wat
- [22:33] <Eejtop> wat
- [22:33] * Eejtop was kicked by [^_^] (Stop flooding!)
- [22:33] * Eejtop has joined #/m/
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- [22:33] * [^_^] sets mode: +b *!*@lol.i.dunno
- [22:33] * aers was kicked by [^_^] (User has been banned from the channel)
- [22:33] <Lolfang> s'true
- [22:33] <desudesu> Lolfang: do we ever get the raw?
- [22:33] <desudesu> I'll just read the raw =3=
- [22:34] <Lolfang> just ask koda
- [22:34] <desudesu> <@Lolfang> Plus, everyone in the know knows that gg, nyoron, and menclave are bffs <- BFF, but tsundere for each other in public, rite?
- [22:34] <Lolfang> nah that's just the fans
- [22:34] <Kold> who the fuck is aers
- [22:34] <King-in-Yellow> Why is aers banned?
- [22:34] <desudesu> because aers is a fag
- [22:34] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> who is he
- [22:34] <desudesu> sum guy from #/a/
- [22:34] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> ah
- [22:35] <desudesu> involved in sum animu subbing process or something
- [22:35] <desudesu> I don't really know =3=
- [22:35] <Lolfang> sounds familiar
- [22:35] <desudesu> http://www.geocities.jp/hetare_d_max/100AstraeaF-48.JPG <- LOOK AT THIS MOTHERFUCKER
- [22:35] <desudesu> fuck, I need to order some extra parts from hlj soon
- [22:35] <Lolfang> double wielding
- [22:36] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> oh her
- [22:36] <Eejtop> ummm lolfang if you think those three groups are bffs your grip on reality is tenuous at best
- [22:36] <Lolfang> seriously ask Koda
- [22:36] <desudesu> 14(11@15Lolfang14) just ask koda <- who?
- [22:36] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> koda
- [22:36] <Lolfang> leader of gg
- [22:37] <desudesu> I see no koda here
- [22:37] <desudesu> =3=
- [22:37] <Lolfang> currently under the name Chi
- [22:37] <Lolfang> We were going to put out a 3 way co-op episode of sazae-san a few weeks ago
- [22:38] <Lolfang> but by the time I tled it, the joke was stale
- [22:38] <Lolfang> she's kodachrome atm
- [22:39] <Lolfang> just changed nicks
- [22:39] <Eejtop> hold on
- [22:39] <Eejtop> you're asking koda
- [22:39] * ilifin has joined #/m/
- [22:39] <Eejtop> you're asking koda for a straight answer about fansubbing i'm so confused
- [22:39] <Lolfang> about groups anyway
- [22:40] <Lolfang> me her and scr3w5 are on very good terms
- [22:40] <ilifin> wat
- [22:42] <Eejtop> i'd tl 00F except it took me forever just to start working on NoN
- [22:42] <Lolfang> another worthy prospect
- [22:42] <Eejtop> but uh
- [22:42] <Lolfang> lord knows Deacon's not working on it
- [22:42] <Eejtop> i am really not seeing how there is some kind of
- [22:43] <Eejtop> menclave-gg connection anywhere at all period in this plane of existence
- [22:43] <Lolfang> sure there is
- [22:43] <Nirvash_> is it really so hard to imagine their members talking to each other
- [22:43] <Lolfang> I wish I had a log of that night
- [22:44] <Lolfang> we were all playing Menclave themed mafia together
- [22:45] <Eejtop> uhh you have no idea how much douchery is flying aroudn between both groups, lolfang
- [22:45] <Lolfang> between fans mostly
- [22:45] <Lolfang> same thing between me and menclave
- [22:46] <Lolfang> I have no ill will towards them and speak with them regularly
- [22:46] <Lolfang> we're on good terms
- [22:46] <ilifin> is that like me and mango
- [22:47] <Eejtop> uh
- [22:47] <Eejtop> gg and menclave drama gets big enough for ircops to get involved just so you know lolfang
- [22:47] <Lolfang> Menclave even shared their ccs with me regularly during 00
- [22:48] <Lolfang> until they stopped getting .ts from house
- [22:48] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> subbing is friendly rivalry
- [22:48] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> like those anime
- [22:48] <Lolfang> maybe that's what you mean, back when menclave pissed him off
- [22:49] <Lolfang> but it's much better lately
- [22:49] <Lolfang> there's been something of a douche-purge from menclave
- [22:49] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrJ_pEVMcZM those odd things
- [22:50] <Eejtop> no i am fairly cognisant of the current situation between gg and menclave
- [22:50] <Lolfang> If you say so
- [22:51] <Lolfang> but anyway, back to the main point, subbing 00 is a bad use of your time
- [22:51] <Eejtop> I would imagine actually being in gg would give me the advantage in that regard
- [22:51] <Eejtop> also i don't see how it'll be a bad use of my time i'm putting in like an hour or two of work on a sunday morning
- [22:52] <Lolfang> because other people are putting in the same hour or two doing the same thing, you could spend that time doing something else
- [22:53] <Kold> if you're going to do it "just because", you're being a complete retard
- [22:54] <Lolfang> In my opinion as the subbing situation stands, other groups other than myself and menclave are putting an un nessicary bloat in the subs of the show
- [22:54] <Eejtop> good god i hope you aren't editing
- [22:54] <Lolfang> nope
- [22:55] <Eejtop> however
- [22:55] <Lolfang> I'm allowed to be sloppy with my spelling because I'm fast
- [22:55] <Lolfang> Shami fixes it later
- [22:55] <JONJONAUG> hey Lolfang
- [22:55] <Eejtop> in your opinion, you and menclave are allowed to do g00
- [22:55] <Eejtop> by divine right
- [22:55] <Nirvash_> ALL IS OVER
- [22:55] <JONJONAUG> converting AAC to mp3, what do I use?
- [22:56] <King-in-Yellow> Why would you do that?
- [22:56] <JONJONAUG> converting mkv to avi
- [22:56] <Lolfang> not allowed, but we definitely have some extra merit having done season one
- [22:56] <JONJONAUG> demuxed the file, but it uses AAC audio
- [22:56] <Lolfang> also Jon, megui
- [22:56] <JONJONAUG> hey thanks
- [22:57] <Eejtop> your season 1 was horrible that's not meritorious at all
- [22:57] <Lolfang> oh? I thought you didn't watch anything of minwe after GL? How did you form that opinion?
- [22:58] <Eejtop> I said I haven't trusted your subs since TTGL, I did watch an ep or two of yours early on in g00 and it was full of graham gayker and seiron islands
- [22:58] <Lolfang> early 00 was still suck territory for me
- [22:59] <Lolfang> you should look at my more recent work, I really pushed myself to improve after Dark Mirage's criticism
- [22:59] <Lolfang> and it shows
- [22:59] <Eejtop> so having a shitty season 1 gives you more credibility to do season 2
- [22:59] <Eejtop> I am not seeing the logic behind this
- [23:00] <Lolfang> not credibility, but name recognition, the fans will download a group who has done previous work in a series
- [23:00] <Lolfang> same for menclave
- [23:00] <Lolfang> and again,
- [23:00] <Eejtop> so it's a matter of popularity amongst the masses?
- [23:01] <Lolfang> I urge you to watch more of my recent work before you judge
- [23:01] <Eejtop> if that's the case I should drop NoN and not even bother with 00F
- [23:01] <Lolfang> why? they're alternate universe works
- [23:02] <Lolfang> well not 00f
- [23:02] <Lolfang> but you know what I mean
- [23:02] <Eejtop> because no one downloads them
- [23:02] <Lolfang> no that's not what I'm saying at all
- [23:02] <Lolfang> let me reitterate
- [23:02] <Eejtop> so what does name recognition -> more downloads, figure at all into this
- [23:03] <Lolfang> My fansubbing policy is to sub something from beginning to end. To jump in midway because something is popular is a decision often made because the subber is interested in downloads or ego, and I dislike that
- [23:03] <Lolfang> I look for the same in other groups, not to sub for ego or downloads, but because they genuinely like the show
- [23:04] <Eejtop> because the people in BSS who are working on the show aren't big gundam fans right
- [23:04] <Eejtop> who do you think owns gundam.eu
- [23:04] <Lolfang> I was expecting them to sub season 1 actually
- [23:05] <Eejtop> and the flag fighter bots
- [23:05] <Lolfang> I was looking forward to working opposite them
- [23:05] <Eejtop> well you'll be working opposite to us in two weeks
- [23:05] <Lolfang> That's fine, but I'd like you to sub something that needs more attention
- [23:05] <Kold> so, why is there so much fansub faggotry in my #/m/
- [23:05] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> no idea
- [23:06] <Nirvash_> because kold
- [23:06] <Nirvash_> becase
- [23:06] <Kold> someone op me so i can ban both of them
- [23:06] <Lolfang> you're free to do what you want, I'm just trying to persuade you not to oversub
- [23:06] <Nirvash_> because*
- [23:06] <Eejtop> why not give choice
- [23:07] <Lolfang> I'm not denying you anything, I'm stating my opinon on the current state of the show and thrying to persuade you to take another direction
- [23:07] <Eejtop> why aren't we allowed to do it because we love gundam?
- [23:07] <Lolfang> there are other gundam things in need of love
- [23:08] <Eejtop> on the contrary, what gives you the right to stand on your podium and "advise" me to do something else
- [23:08] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> didn't you ask him?
- [23:08] <Lolfang> Igloo two is coming out, Zeta movies need good subs, EVERYTHING by hero legends needs better treatment
- [23:08] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> why did you come to this channel then?
- [23:08] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> to start some trouble?
- [23:08] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> why not kold
- [23:08] <Eejtop> I haven't told you to do anything else
- [23:08] <Lolfang> I'm not on any podium
- [23:08] <Eejtop> because lolfang believes everything koda says
- [23:08] <Lolfang> this is my opinion
- [23:08] <Lolfang> feel free to ignore me
- [23:08] <Eejtop> that's why i'm in this channel
- [23:08] <Kold> spoilers: lolfang is gay for gg
- [23:08] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> internet crusaders
- [23:09] <Eejtop> i'd rather he not be gay for me tia
- [23:09] <Nirvash_> I LIKE BOTH NYORON AND GG
- [23:09] <Nirvash_> NO I DON'T IDORT
- [23:09] <Lolfang> I think it's evident you still have a negative opinion of my work, please watch my more recent subbing
- [23:10] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/matsman/alto.jpg
- [23:10] <Eejtop> oh I'm sure your stuff is fine
- [23:11] <Lolfang> I think that you'll find with the resources available to me, I'll do a job with season 2 you could be proud of
- [23:11] <Lolfang> I'm saying as someone who enjoys your work
- [23:11] <Nirvash_> I'm always proud of you lolfang
- [23:11] <Nirvash_> SON
- [23:11] <Lolfang> I want to see you do something else
- [23:11] <Nirvash_> COME TO PAPA
- [23:11] <Eejtop> after corroborating with other people who have seen the latest releases they said they were fine
- [23:11] * Lolfang embraces Nirvash
- [23:11] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> lol
- [23:11] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> itc: movies
- [23:12] <Eejtop> but now I'm definitely not changing now that you had the gall to tell me to sub something else
- [23:12] <Nirvash_> this is better than densha otoko
- [23:12] <Lolfang> not telling, suggesting
- [23:12] <Nirvash_> oh god subdrama
- [23:12] <Nirvash_> it feeds me
- [23:12] <Lolfang> I haven't given you any commands
- [23:12] <Nirvash_> i feel my strength returning
- [23:12] <Lolfang> just suggestions of what I'd rather see you do
- [23:13] <Eejtop> what are these resources you're talking about
- [23:14] <Eejtop> and why don't YOU use your resources
- [23:14] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> killer shrimps
- [23:14] <Eejtop> and set up a capbox in osaka to cap MBS
- [23:14] <Lolfang> I'll be capping my own .ts raw, and extracting closed captions to use as a translation guide
- [23:14] <King-in-Yellow> lul, Misao. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXq6Flk8o3Y
- [23:14] <Eejtop> excellent
- [23:14] <Eejtop> that means you can cap casshern sins
- [23:15] <Lolfang> I could, but I'm not sure if my schedule will allow me to take on a 3rd show, I'd be happy to pass it on to another subber like yourself though
- [23:16] <Eejtop> Lolfang: perfect, that means with my resources I'd produce a gundam 00 s2 sub that you'd be proud of and you can use your resources to make a cassherin sins sub that I would be proud of
- [23:17] <Lolfang> I know you're trying to persuade me to change shows, but I'm sorry I've already commited to 00, and breaking that commitment would be a disservice to my fans
- [23:18] <Nirvash_> lolfang in japan make sure to eat shako
- [23:18] <Nirvash_> thanks
- [23:18] <Lolfang> oh I'm eating everything
- [23:20] <Eejtop> so if you're commited, and I'm commited, why do you bother telling me to reconsider
- [23:20] <Eejtop> "suggesting" i reconsider
- [23:22] <Lolfang> because at this point you're not committed, you subbed a PV that Koda has already told everyone was based on a joke, you can shrug it off and walk away, but I've been promising before the end of season 2 I'd continue to sub until the end
- [23:22] <Lolfang> excuse me, season 1
- [23:23] <Eejtop> how am I not commited
- [23:23] <Eejtop> the team is commited to doing it
- [23:23] <Lolfang> where have you made an open commitment statement to the public?
- [23:24] <Eejtop> I wasn't aware that committment meant "stating to the public"
- [23:24] <Lolfang> commitment for me is pleasing the fans of the series
- [23:24] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> just wondering if the subbing discussion could go in pms
- [23:24] <Lolfang> sorry
- [23:25] <Eejtop> comittment for me is having every member of the team committed to doing the show
- [23:25] <Lelouche_vi_Britannia> no problem, just a request
- [23:26] <Lolfang> It's really disheartening that you're going to go through with this then, I do hope you reconsider, but I've said my piece and I'll leave it at that then
