Epi: Becaise DH wants me to.
MovingPictures07: LOL
Elohcin: I thought they were going for lizzy
Epi: That was before I spoke to DH
MovingPictures07: Rob, I at least must say, you've been entertaining as hell
Epi: Take out DH
Epi: To do that
Epi: You must take out AP
Epi: Simple
Epi: I can mediate in the interim
Elohcin: you expect us to just listen with no elplanation?
Epi: Emerson Lake Palmer ation?
Epi: Yes I do.
Epi: If you want to fuck me over. Do it.
Epi: It want me to do what I say I will do, then shut up.
Epi: I will deliver
Epi: I have NOT screwed one person over yet, and you know that's true.
MovingPictures07: I haven't either.
MovingPictures07: Key word is yet
MovingPictures07: Lol
Elohcin: right [smile] me too
Epi: That was a lot of typing Eloh
Epi: For so few words.
Elohcin: huh?
Epi: Eloh is talking to someone else.
Epi: I can telll.
Elohcin: I am doing other things over here too
Elohcin: yes, I am
Elohcin: they know this
Elohcin: MP is too [smile]
Epi: Very good.
MovingPictures07: Lol
Epi: Unfortunately
Epi: By keeping me out of the loop
Epi: You screw yourselves
Elohcin: who says you are out of the loop?
Daisy: I need a clear and definite answer on this, you are saying we should go after AP?
Epi: That is my opinoin- you can keep DH on a leash
Elohcin: how does that work though?
Elohcin: I just want to knwo the ins and outs of your thought process
Epi: Who...me?
Elohcin: yes you
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Epi: OK
Epi: I thought I spoke about this
Epi: DH wants AP gone
Epi: get AP gone
Epi: then I continue credibility with him
Elohcin: but DH told us he wants lizzy gone
Epi: Ah because DH would never lie about his goals
Epi: pick lizzy
Epi: pick AP
Elohcin: so to keep our alliance with DH and Bulls, AP, and snow, we have to vote lizzy
Elohcin: I'm just saying
Epi: WHAT ALLIANCE?
Elohcin: you keep credibility with DH but WE dont keep cred with bullz and the others
Epi: You people are kidding youselves.
Elohcin: I guess so
Epi: You have spread too thin then
Epi: Enjoy yourselves
Elohcin: I'm just confused
Epi: As well you should be.
Epi: If you ask me, you're just being used.
Elohcin: okay...
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Elohcin: I bet DH and bullz have two chatzy's going
Epi: MP is a player
Epi: Don't bet
Epi: They do
Elohcin: I see
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Hedgeowl: Wow you all had a lot to say.
Hedgeowl: will try to catch up, but I'll be in and out.
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Epi: Vompatti informs me that his crew are going to NK Bullz, for what that's worth.
Epi: However, they want to vote off daisy or jiggy. Beware.
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Daisy: Yeah, Lizzy leaves us no choice but to follow DH in voting for her today. Thank you for the warning
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Epi: I have gained a silence. Tell me what you want me to do with it. I'm listening.
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Epi: Also beeyotches. LEFTOVERTURE FTW
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MovingPictures07: LEFTOVERTURE FTW
MovingPictures07: MIRACLES OUT OF NOWHERE
Epi: You must think I'm foolish.
Epi: I can be drunk but not foolish.
MovingPictures07: Lol
MovingPictures07: Foolish why
Epi: Oh read the PM I sent then come back
MovingPictures07: lol
MovingPictures07: Best PM I've ever read
Epi: I'm sure I've sent better.
MovingPictures07: Yeah, probably
Epi: Never mind.
Epi: That was awesome.
Epi: I do what I do.
MovingPictures07: Your mom was awesome
Epi: But I'm serious.
Epi: My mom passed away two months ago.
MovingPictures07: Wha
MovingPictures07: No she didn't
Epi: You're right, she didn't.
MovingPictures07: LOL
Epi: [big grin]
MovingPictures07: You know
MovingPictures07: I'm not going to believe you when you tell me she has passed away for real
Epi: You won't charm your way back into my good graces.
Epi: (When my mom dies, you will know)
MovingPictures07: Lol I'm not charming anyone
MovingPictures07: Yeah, I know
Epi: Who had the bright idea to exclude?
Epi: *exclude me
Epi: You're taking too long to respond.
Epi: That tells me you're thinking about it.
Epi: Asking "what should I say?"
MovingPictures07: No, I've been attacked by Daisy, sorry
MovingPictures07: it was my idea lol
MovingPictures07: Well not really
Epi: I figured.
MovingPictures07: I just made a new chat
Epi: Listen to me.
Epi: If you want my help
MovingPictures07: I'm listening
Epi: I don't think you are.
MovingPictures07: Epi: Listen to me. Epi: If you want my help Epi: Suck my cock
Epi: I think I'm going to have to prove myself to the other side before you appreciate what I can do
MovingPictures07: What does that mean
Epi: I proved myself to your "team" four times.
Epi: And that was not enough.
Epi: I told you I do not have to worry what happens now.
MovingPictures07: Sure it's enough, I included you
Epi: You apparently do not believe that.
MovingPictures07: Then you proceeded to tell us how foolish we all were lol
MovingPictures07: And I am cool with you, I still want to keep you alive
Epi: Did you actually read what I wrote?
MovingPictures07: I just wanted a place the four of us could talk without you being there, my opinion hasn't changed on you at all
Epi: I wrote what I did, and I wrote it the way I did for a reason
MovingPictures07: Yes
Epi: Eloh says you don't trust me.
MovingPictures07: Neither does she lol
MovingPictures07: And you're right, I'm not sure I can
Epi: I know she doesn't.
Epi: Can I trust her?
MovingPictures07: You don't trust me either
Epi: Or you?
MovingPictures07: I don't know, I would think so
Epi: That's the beauty friend.
Epi: I don't HAVE to trust anybody anymore
MovingPictures07: Then don't
MovingPictures07: Lol
MovingPictures07: I'm cool with that
MovingPictures07: You just keep doing your thing
Epi: That doesn't make me worthless
MovingPictures07: I don't want you dead
Epi: I think you do
MovingPictures07: Nah
Epi: But that just won't happen
MovingPictures07: I don't really care
Epi: Not for the time being.
MovingPictures07: I want other people dead first
Epi: I know people who have night kills and I can convince them to kill people you are aligned with.
MovingPictures07: Go ahead, why would you do that
Epi: Forget roles- INH gives powers like conefetti.
Epi: Why would I do that?
Epi: REALLY?
MovingPictures07: I mean, really, there's nothing I can do
Epi: Your party has shown ZERO help to me.
Epi: None.,
MovingPictures07: If you're going to kill me, go ahead
Epi: Nothing.
Epi: I told you in PM
Epi: That I did favors for people
MovingPictures07: You never asked for help except for voting AP which would have been suicidal and pointless
Epi: No one has ever once helped me at all, despite their saying they would do so.
Epi: I'm surprised I'm here.
MovingPictures07: Lol
MovingPictures07: See above, we asked you last night how you wanted help but you never said so
MovingPictures07: Plus you and I never had any agreement
MovingPictures07: All of that happened before I replaced in
Epi: Thanks- AFTER I took on my new role
MovingPictures07: In my defense I never requested you to kill llama
MovingPictures07: I would have warned against that tbh
MovingPictures07: But I wasn't here at the time
Epi: I'm not stupid
Epi: Matt F and Eloh asked me to kill llama
Epi: which I did
Epi: I have been nothing but loyal
Epi: I know you won't invite me into your clique
Epi: You will have your group jail me tomorrow
Epi: And that's fine.
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Daisy: Epi
Epi: Go ahead and copy and paste everything I type to your other crew
Daisy: We are not going to jail you tomorrow
Daisy: I can see his screen, he is not at the computer right now
Epi: I came to this group in good stupid faith
Daisy: But I can tell you with all honesty, we have not one discussed jailing you.
Daisy: *once
Epi: You do realize, I don't care about going to jail?
Epi: Or being killed?
Epi: I hope I get killed, actually.
Epi: I'm taunting people hoping I get killed.
Daisy: No, we are not targeting you with a kill either
Epi: I helps me.
Epi: Well, if you have a kill, please use it on me.
Epi: I mean it.
Epi: I won't be useful to you
Daisy: I can't speak for Snow, he is not a part of this group. But we have no reason or desire to kill you
Epi: But it helps me.
Epi: You have no reason or desire to kill me. Great. You have no reason or desire to include me either.
Daisy: You never acted as though you wanted an alliance
Epi: That's because an alliance in this game is an illusion.
MovingPictures07: Sorry I was in the bathroom
Epi: I help people who help me, but so far I've only helped people who have not helped me.
Daisy: It won't last. I know this. We all know this.
Epi: And leaving me out...what has it accomplished?
MovingPictures07: I feel bad for you, really, but you never asked for help from me, nor did I from you (other than your vote)
MovingPictures07: I can't control what my alliance members previously did
MovingPictures07: And I am not lying -- I do want you around, and there's no way we're voting for you any time soon
MovingPictures07: You can believe me or not but that's the truth
MovingPictures07: For all intents and purposes, you're completely involved, no one is leaving you out
Epi: Sorry had to piss
MovingPictures07: I was gone at work nearly all day, so it's not like I was talking behind your back all day or anything
Epi: All right
MovingPictures07: And actually I need to go real soon but I've stayed because I'm chatting with you
MovingPictures07: I invited you to the group because I value your input
MovingPictures07: That fact hasn't changed
Daisy: I want to steal him back from mafia. I won't see him again until probably Saturday
Daisy: Lol
MovingPictures07: Lol
MovingPictures07: I know you probably feel left out and I understand why, but it's not true, and don't sweat it, you will not be getting my vote
MovingPictures07: Or anyone else's I'm aligned with
Epi: I feel used to be honest.
MovingPictures07: Not by me though, I didn't use you
Epi: You did so.
MovingPictures07: How
MovingPictures07: I only requested your vote and you didn't even give me that
Epi: You used my input.
Epi: You just admitted that.
Epi: My vote?
MovingPictures07: You didn't have to give it to me! And no we didn't, you were saying we should vote AP
MovingPictures07: I asked for your input, I didn't use it
Epi: Super.
MovingPictures07: It's not like we had much choice today anyway
Epi: You had many choices.
MovingPictures07: Yes, your vote, I asked if you would help us get rid of Bullz and DH
Epi: Leaving me out was one of them.
MovingPictures07: But you never agreed to that
MovingPictures07: Which is fine
Epi: Did you ever think to consider why?
MovingPictures07: No one ever left you out of anything
Daisy: Why?
Epi: Listen- if you felt you could not trust me
Epi: Then I don't know what else to say.
Daisy: Look the reason we created a new chat is pretty simple. You refused to speak straightforward to the issue at hand, we created the new chat to discuss if we felt we could trust what you were saying.
Daisy: I the end it did not matter because we got the info from both you and someone else that Lizzy wanted to vote out either me or Jig
Epi: Well
Epi: Enjoy figuring that out.
MovingPictures07: I didn't say I felt I couldn';t trust you
MovingPictures07: I just said I wasn't sure
MovingPictures07: And frankly it's almost impossible to be sure of that of anyone else this game lol
Epi: So you I give you info
Epi: And you still can't trust me.
Epi: I tell you I'm not worried about anyything
MovingPictures07: Did I say I felt that way now?
Epi: And you still can't trust me.
MovingPictures07: I felt that way last night
Epi: I don't care how you feel.
MovingPictures07: I feel I can trust you now, which is why I am even talking to you
Epi: I will NOT be trfiled with.
Epi: Oh bullshit.
Epi: You're here to move info to you new chat room.
MovingPictures07: Lol that's not true I'm not even in the other chatroom right now
MovingPictures07: Ask Elo
MovingPictures07: This is the only tab on my computer screen
MovingPictures07: No lie
Epi: You folks are in danger.
Epi: And I tried
Epi: God I tried to help you
Epi: If you truly wnant MY help
Daisy: Alright well, I am stepping out.
Epi: then you're going to have to prove it.
Epi: I'm tired of doing for others and not being done for
Daisy: What do you want?
Daisy: Be clear
MovingPictures07: I agree, I'd be more than happy to consider what you want but you only said one thing and that was the AP vote
Daisy: After you changed it twice that is
MovingPictures07: Make some demands, bitch
Epi: Do me a small favor first.
MovingPictures07: What is it
Epi: List who is IN with you and who is OUT
MovingPictures07: Sure
Epi: Don't lie to me.
MovingPictures07: i won't
Epi: If you do, I will know.
MovingPictures07: me, Daisy, Jiggy, Elo, and Hedge are IN
MovingPictures07: Bullz, DH, AP are OUT, the rest I suppose are OUT by default because they haven't chosen to be fully IN
Epi: Like me, I suppose (rollseyes)
MovingPictures07: Lol sure
MovingPictures07: Was that all you wanted?
MovingPictures07: Surely you must want something else
Epi: I only asked to see if there was something you could do for me.
MovingPictures07: What is the something
Epi: But give me a moment to think
MovingPictures07: k
Epi: I'm fine.
Epi: MP, I believe you will die though
MovingPictures07: What do you mean
Epi: Or be jailed rather
MovingPictures07: I suppose that doesn't surprise me too much; you think they're going after me tomorrow or what?
Epi: No.
Epi: I don't think it will happen on the next day
Epi: Perhaps the day after
MovingPictures07: What were you thinking for tomorrow's vote?
MovingPictures07: If anything
Epi: AP or Snowy
Epi: I don't care if Snowy keeps getting released
Epi: And AP can force votes
MovingPictures07: Yeah the force voting is annoying
Epi: He keeps targeting me
Epi: Listen carefully
Epi: It will take a major display of faithfulness for me to trust you and your crew.
Epi: I don't care how many you have.
Epi: Voting for AP won't cut it.
MovingPictures07: I understand
Epi: Do you also understand that I'm in touch with almost everyone else?
MovingPictures07: Yes
MovingPictures07: I figured as much anyway
Epi: I have thus far been loyal to they who have been most loyal to me.
Epi: Always keep that in mind.
MovingPictures07: I will
Epi: As a sign of good faith
Epi: Who do you want silenced?
Epi: I have a silence.
Epi: Or would you prefer I bargain it for something else?
MovingPictures07: Ehhh unfortunately a silence won't do much of anything this game unless it stops them from voting too
MovingPictures07: Which sucks
MovingPictures07: Unless it's an all-around silence but I've never heard of that before
Epi: I disagree.
Epi: Very well
MovingPictures07: What's your thought process behind it then?
Epi: I'll see what the other group can do for me.
MovingPictures07: I mean, if someone can still vote but not talk in thread that doesn't do much
MovingPictures07: I appreciate your offer
MovingPictures07: But how about something else?
Epi: I don't think you do.
Epi: Honestly Bob
MovingPictures07: I do, actually
Epi: I think you and your family have your minds made up
MovingPictures07: I just think silencing is lame in a game with open BTSC
MovingPictures07: Offer me something else if you want to deal
MovingPictures07: If you can offer me something concrete and I like it and I offer you something concrete and you like it, then we can make an agreement
Epi: I'm not offering you anything.
Epi: It was a sign of good faith
MovingPictures07: You just offered me a silence
Epi: I wasn't making a deal or bartering.
MovingPictures07: Oh, I see
Epi: I was giving it to you.
Epi: A gift.
Epi: You turned it down
MovingPictures07: Oh, okay, I misunderstood then
Epi: Fine.
Epi: Too late.
MovingPictures07: Lol
Epi: I can get something for it from someone who understands its value in this game (and believe me, in this game, it has value)
MovingPictures07: That's fine, no worries, you can keep your silence if you want anyway, though I do appreciate it
Epi: Anyway, to say the least, you and your people will have to win me back
Epi: If you don't want me, fine
MovingPictures07: I do want you, but think what you want
Epi: But you will not get me back without a certain display of trust
MovingPictures07: I understand, as you wish
MovingPictures07: I have to go now, so I'll see you around
MovingPictures07: Night!!
Epi: You do as YOu wish
Epi: I'll be around regardless.
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Daisy: You do realize that they forwarded to Alex the PM you sent them saying you wanted to take down MP and his crew? Before this day started in fact. They don't trust you.
Daisy: And if they are not split up, they will do to you like they did to Lizzy. Just a fact. They also discussed in their chat using Snow's kill on you. DH was suggesting it. This was the last time I was in that chat, which was a couple days ago now. Anyway, off to work. Just giving you the same fair warning you gave me.
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