- Generals on /m/ and /a/
- (13:40:37) <+Kamui> Is there some unwritten rule about Generals? Because m/'s got a good 20 of them...and more than half have just started up. I'm all for grouping like communication together...but this is sort of getting crazy
- (13:41:32) <%Kusanagi> generals are bad
- (13:41:41) <%Kusanagi> /m/ is not fast enough to justify generals
- (13:42:28) <%Kusanagi> generals tend to just end up being faggots circle jerking after they run out of things to talk about related to the subject, then they just start blogging about their lives
- (13:43:15) <+Axism> that's true
- (13:43:19) <%Kusanagi> There is no rule against generals but they are frowned upon
- (13:43:22) <+Kamui> I'll agree that some of them have cut down on traffic and silly questions (like the Kamen Rider/Super Sentai generals getting rid of 20+ threads of 'Which should I watch now') but...
- (13:43:28) <+Troid> <Kusanagi> /m/ is not fast enough to justify generals
- (13:43:33) <+Troid> slow boards do generals differently
- (13:43:47) <+Troid> being slow is actually a reason TO consolidate things into generals
- (13:43:51) <+Kamui> http://pastebin.com/Jzs9qjwX <- those are all the generals on the /m/ right now (minus the TVN one which I nuked for shitposting)
- (13:44:03) <+Troid> what is the point of having three threads with overlapping topics that all get one or two posts over the course of days?
- (13:44:21) <+Kamui> Yeah, the KR/SS generals generally stay up a day or so but have really cut down on stupid questions.
- (13:44:28) <+Troid> the general thread stigma was born on /v/ and it should stay there.
- (13:44:37) <%Kusanagi> >Rec general
- (13:44:42) <%Kusanagi> Terrible
- (13:44:54) <+Troid> a lot of general threads are completely cancer but cancer is not inherent to a "general thread"
- (13:45:02) <+Troid> not even a general thread that is repeatedly remade after filling up
- (13:45:11) <+Kamui> Gundam Build Fighters is pretty much the 'BIG' mecha show and has a ton of content and works well with the general format
- (13:45:11) <%Kusanagi> I think it is
- (13:45:21) <%Kusanagi> After they run out of things to talk about it goes down hill
- (13:45:36) <%Kusanagi> K-on general was pretty bad
- (13:45:39) <+Troid> if there's nothing to talk about, there shouldn't be ANY thread about it, not just a general
- (13:45:42) <%Kusanagi> In fact it was amazing how bad it was
- (13:45:55) <%Kusanagi> Troid, nobody knows when to stop
- (13:45:56) <%Kusanagi> ergo
- (13:45:58) <+Troid> that's nothing to do with the general format, it's to do with the people making and participating in the threads
- (13:45:58) <+Kamui> But...other than those 3 and maybe the 70s/80s mecha general, I'm not seeing much of a point.
- (13:45:58) <%Kusanagi> generals suck
- (13:46:21) <+Kamui> And I really don't see mecha getting a generals spinoff, etc so...it's tricky how to handle it
- (13:46:28) <+Kamui> (or any spinoffs for that matter)
- (13:46:35) <+Troid> "some of the worst shitposting is possible due to 4chan's imageboard software, ergo 4chan's imageboard software sucks" ?
- (13:46:44) <%Kusanagi> large series could benift from a general
- (13:46:50) <%Kusanagi> But you don't need a rec general
- (13:46:54) <+Troid> "people don't know when to stop" sounds like a problem withthe people
- (13:46:55) <%Kusanagi> that's fucking stupid
- (13:47:10) <%Kusanagi> Troid, it's a problem with this whole site
- (13:47:22) <+Troid> and you won't solve it by outlawing generals
- (13:47:34) <+Kamui> The only thing I could think of is that /m/ has been wanting a sticky for awhile to point people in directions of shows. If we could figure out how one might work, that could do them well
- (13:47:36) <%Kusanagi> We won't solve it by letting them blog about their lives either
- (13:47:39) <+Troid> an action which would hurt all kinds of "innocent" generals on other threads
- (13:47:39) <%Kusanagi> And we can't stop either
- (13:47:50) <+Troid> right, so ban the people blogging about their lives, not the format of thread they use
- (13:48:07) <%Kusanagi> They just evade and come back on /vg/ they will do the same on /m/
- (13:48:18) <+Kazisho> The concept of generals isn't that bad, it's just people get bored really fast. Elitism could help, see MLPG or (ugh) /mg/, which are on-topic most of the time.
- (13:48:33) <%Kusanagi> Elitism didn't even save k-on general
- (13:48:53) <+Troid> they won't do the same on /m/ because /m/ is not inhabited by /vg/ers.
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- (13:49:09) <%Kusanagi> True
- (13:49:27) <%Kusanagi> I'd keep an eye on the content of the threads for sure
- (13:49:33) <%Kusanagi> I'm gonna have to take off soon
- (13:49:48) <%Kusanagi> But my opinion is generals are bad, there is however no rule against them except in /v/
- (13:49:51) <+Kamui> /m/ does a fairly good job weeding out things that don't belong or reporting such, but the problem is if you get rid of most of the generals, you set a standard.
- (13:50:11) <%Kusanagi> Also I don't allow them outside of drawfag and idom@S and buyfag on /a/
- (13:50:13) <+Kamui> Nah, I'm definately up for hearing options so there's no best or worst answer
- (13:51:03) <%Kusanagi> Keep an eye on it for sure if they start getting off topic purge
- (13:51:19) <%Kusanagi> here at the start though it should stay subject related
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