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From: benjamin barber <barberb@barberb.com>
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https://www.reddit.com/r/endomorphosis/comments/3g84ff/placeholde/

There was the beginnings of me outing the group of people a few  months
ago, I got bored about 1/2 of the way through.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:44 PM, benjamin barber <barberb@barberb.com>
wrote:

> You seem to probably forget that I was one of the first people who was a
> target of the "lets target this person until they quit #GG", by digging up
> my personal life and interjecting it constantly for no reason on /gg/ or
> /r/portland. In fact I had Robin Gething threaten to send pornography made
> with my ex wife to the internet unless I decided to leave gamergate after
> they committed nonprofit fraud. There were several other people who had the
> same thing happen to them, for example Cyborg Dave or Blind Ryan from last
> year in the shrekbane / robin gething group, there are a few more if you
> want more specific examples.
>
> Being a Kantian I have a fairly strict rules of conduct, and if someone is
> breaking the law or breaking ethics, it doesn't matter if they're on my
> side or not. That is why I generate so much scorn from the groups in
> gamerate, because I don't compromise my ethics and I take the time to
> expose the truth and corruption. It doesn't matter to me if the person is
> gg or not gg, if someone scams thousands of dollars or breaks the laws with
> threats or hacking, then I will go to the extent of trying to get them
> caught for those transgressions. If jim watkins was responsible for either
> stealing the 2ch code, or responsible for the selling personal data, he
> deserves to get caught for breaking the law.
>
> I haven't manipulated or threatened anyone, unless you mean using the laws
> against corrupt SJW's, and I agree that the ends don't justify the means. I
> may criticise reddit admins or KIA mods, but thats because great power
> comes with great responsibilites, and being held accountable to your
> userbase. I haven't brought any of my personal agendas in gamergate, as in
> seeking a personal army for my purposes, though people tried to profiteer
> off of my ideas and work. My concerns have been infiltration of technology
> industry, and manipulation of the media and education systems, and
> maintaining free speech and anonymity.
>
> That is why I tried to warn people months in advance about the
> infiltration of organizations like eff, tor, fsf, un, twitter, reddit,
> google, etc. In addition to try to illustrate how to use the legal system
> to enforce regulations of the laws that exist, by going out of my way by
> doing it on my own (no e-begging). I also spent a great deal of time trying
> to help people in gamergate, but in reality the movement has lost all of
> its talent, driven away by overmoderation by moderators on kia or
> gamergatehq. if GamerGate had actually operated like an army, we might have
> actually succeeded alot better, than trying to be a politically correct
> hashtag campaign.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:16 PM, <acidman@8chan.co> wrote:
>
>> I think we're a little past the point of ideological comparisons, don't
>> you?
>>
>> This isn't about someone's beliefs and it never has been.  This is about
>> manipulation and control of people trying to take part in a cause in their
>> own way.
>>
>> You don't have a cause, be it fucking SJWs or fucking journalism, that
>> can justify what has been going on.  You are not the Illuminati, here to
>> steer the poor masses to a better tomorrow.  Their "better tomorrow" is for
>> them to decide, and pursue in the way they want to pursue.  You ALL had the
>> option of offering advice and ideas the same as anyone else.
>>
>> Those ideas and advice failing to take root does not justify manipulating
>> people, threatening people, or trying to divide and conquer your own allies
>> to make things go the way you want.  The ends do not justify the means.
>> Nobody forced you to be here when your personal agendas weren't wanted, and
>> nonody else gives a fuck how important you THINK they are.
>>
>> I sumpathize.  Plenty of my ideas have been shat on, on /v/ and on GGHQ
>> too.  But I never crossed that arrogant line where I decided to fucking
>> dupe and shill people into doing it.  I took my rejections like an adult
>> and I soldiered on to help the community with what they wanted to do, to
>> much personal detriment.
>>
>> And look where your little clubhouse's tantrum in the other direction has
>> gotten us.  In ten days, I'm putting my first head on a pike, right on GGHQ
>> in front of God and the world.  Its probably going to cost me my board
>> owner position, but I'm past giving a fuck.
>>
>> Every smug tweet from John Kelly, every reply from Kohrro and Zan in that
>> /baph/ thread egging them on, every "Lets target this person until they
>> quit #GG" troll thread going up on GGRevolt, its all just digging the hole
>> deeper and you have a spot right at the bottom with the rest of them unless
>> you can give us a reason not to put you there.
>>
>> You fags crossed the "reasonable" line first, and don't you ever forget
>> it.
>>
>> Now if you're not going to answer any of my questions because you don't
>> know, how about you just tell me what you do know?  It can't be hard to
>> imagine what kind of information we want.  The lot of you piss me off, but
>> I don't break my word.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2015-11-17 00:08, benjamin barber wrote:
>>
>>> https://storify.com/endomorphosis/randi-oscon-shakedown
>>>
>>> I tried to get the members of GG to wake up, but most of them do not
>>> see the big picture.
>>>
>>> I then used this to compel a bunch of tech companies to break the
>>> civil rights laws as well.
>>>
>>> I hope even you now can see that this is bigger than ethics in video
>>> games journalism.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:56 PM, <acidman@8chan.co> wrote:
>>>
>>> So you don't know who they were apart from those two.
>>>>
>>>> Who was the author of the Titan Post from GGRevolt?  "A Guide on How
>>>> To Win"?
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-11-16 17:22, benjamin barber wrote:
>>>> I wasn't part of g8tans8tans group ever. But if i remember
>>>> correctly
>>>> niko of death, bladee and drybones, thidran were all hanging out in
>>>> those days. I found out about drybones chicanery back when I was
>>>> working on the GG dossier, and he tone policed the fuck out of it,
>>>> and
>>>> made us host it on his shitty server (which then didn't allow
>>>> updates).
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, I spent some time with shrekbane, robin gethings, john
>>>> kelly
>>>> group, which had a group of people who scammed money from GG. The
>>>> worst of the lot was a guy named andrewmd5 who is a serial scammer.
>>>> but I noticed a few other opportunists from there as well, most of
>>>> whom are no longer a part of gamergate.
>>>>
>>>> Then after s4t's drama with thidran, s4t came to me to research with
>>>> him. They were part of the Dountain Dew group, which neidran talks
>>>> about in this triscales post,
>>>> http://triscales.com/gamergate-council-exposed/ . Generally speaking
>>>> john kelly went around from group to group like a spy, and they shit
>>>> on any projects that werent theirs.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, <acidman@8chan.co> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-11-15 21:30, benjamin barber wrote:
>>>> You can be skeptical if you want, I haven't been in their company
>>>> for
>>>> a while, because I like to keep my hands clean. Unlike these guys I
>>>> care about my public image, and they have been up to no good for a
>>>> while.
>>>>
>>>> Though I think the `ethics in games journalism` is is pathetic, and
>>>> S4T came to research with me after he fell out with thidrans group,
>>>> until he decided to go apeshit and break the law (coercion) with his
>>>> jkelly spergout.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:54 PM, <acidman@8chan.co> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-11-15 16:05, benjamin barber wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i dont know what you're working on, but I know alot about these
>>>> goings
>>>> on, I can provide info if you want
>>>>
>>>> http://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=barberb.com
>>>> http://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=PDX.edu
>>>>
>>>> That makes two.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting.  Are these guys not on the greatest of terms with you?
>>>> You seem to enjoy each others' company a lot, so forgive me for
>>>> being skeptical.
>>>>
>>>> Alright, I'll bite.  How about this:
>>>>
>>>> Who were -all- the other members of g8tans8tan's group who were mods
>>>> on /gamergate/?
>>>>
>>>> Give me a decent answer and we'll go from there.  You have probably
>>>> figured out by now that there's already enough known to put you on
>>>> the
>>>> shitlist with them.  For me its a matter of priorities.
>>>>
>>>> Give us good info and you can fuck off in peace the way Ethicssuck
>>>> did.  I have no interest in chasing people halfway across the
>>>> Internet
>>>> if they're not fucking with us any longer.  Just note that anything
>>>> you tell us is getting crosschecked with another person from your
>>>> group.
>>>>
>>>> So how 'bout it?
>>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://www.reddit.com/r/endomorphosis/comments=
/3g84ff/placeholde/">https://www.reddit.com/r/endomorphosis/comments/3g84ff=
/placeholde/</a><br><br>There was the beginnings of me outing the group of =
people a few =C2=A0months ago, I got bored about 1/2 of the way through.</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17=
, 2015 at 10:44 PM, benjamin barber <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:barberb@barberb.com" target=3D"_blank">barberb@barberb.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">You seem to proba=
bly forget that I was one of the first people who was a target of the &quot=
;lets target this person until they quit #GG&quot;, by digging up my person=
al life and interjecting it constantly for no reason on /gg/ or /r/portland=
.=C2=A0In fact I had Robin Gething threaten to send pornography made with m=
y ex wife to the internet unless I decided to leave gamergate after they co=
mmitted nonprofit fraud. There were several other people who had the same t=
hing happen to them, for example Cyborg Dave or Blind Ryan from last year i=
n the shrekbane / robin gething group, there are a few more if you want mor=
e specific examples. <br><br>Being a Kantian I have a fairly strict rules o=
f conduct, and if someone is breaking the law or breaking ethics, it doesn&=
#39;t matter if they&#39;re on my side or not. That is why I generate so mu=
ch scorn from the groups in gamerate, because I don&#39;t compromise my eth=
ics and I take the time to expose the truth and corruption. It doesn&#39;t =
matter to me if the person is gg or not gg, if someone scams thousands of d=
ollars or breaks the laws with threats or hacking, then I will go to the ex=
tent of trying to get them caught for those transgressions. If jim watkins =
was responsible for either stealing the 2ch code, or responsible for the se=
lling personal data, he deserves to get caught for breaking the law.<br><br=
>I haven&#39;t manipulated or threatened anyone, unless you mean using the =
laws against corrupt SJW&#39;s, and I agree that the ends don&#39;t justify=
 the means. I may criticise reddit admins or KIA mods, but thats because gr=
eat power comes with great responsibilites, and being held accountable to y=
our userbase. I haven&#39;t brought any of my personal agendas in gamergate=
, as in seeking a personal army for my purposes, though people tried to pro=
fiteer off of my ideas and work. My concerns have been=C2=A0infiltration of=
 technology industry, and manipulation of the media and education systems, =
and maintaining free speech and anonymity. <br><br>That is why I tried to w=
arn people months in advance about the infiltration of organizations like e=
ff, tor, fsf, un, twitter, reddit, google, etc. In addition to try to illus=
trate how to use the legal system to enforce regulations of the laws that e=
xist, by going out of my way by doing it on my own (no e-begging). I also s=
pent a great deal of time trying to help people in gamergate, but in realit=
y the movement has lost all of its talent, driven away by overmoderation by=
 moderators on kia or gamergatehq. if GamerGate had actually operated like =
an army, we might have actually succeeded alot better, than trying to be a =
politically correct hashtag campaign.=C2=A0<br><br><br><br><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 6:16 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:acidman@8chan.co" target=3D"_blank">acidman@8chan.co</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think we&#39;re a littl=
e past the point of ideological comparisons, don&#39;t you?<br>
<br>
This isn&#39;t about someone&#39;s beliefs and it never has been.=C2=A0 Thi=
s is about manipulation and control of people trying to take part in a caus=
e in their own way.<br>
<br>
You don&#39;t have a cause, be it fucking SJWs or fucking journalism, that =
can justify what has been going on.=C2=A0 You are not the Illuminati, here =
to steer the poor masses to a better tomorrow.=C2=A0 Their &quot;better tom=
orrow&quot; is for them to decide, and pursue in the way they want to pursu=
e.=C2=A0 You ALL had the option of offering advice and ideas the same as an=
yone else.<br>
<br>
Those ideas and advice failing to take root does not justify manipulating p=
eople, threatening people, or trying to divide and conquer your own allies =
to make things go the way you want.=C2=A0 The ends do not justify the means=
.=C2=A0 Nobody forced you to be here when your personal agendas weren&#39;t=
 wanted, and nonody else gives a fuck how important you THINK they are.<br>
<br>
I sumpathize.=C2=A0 Plenty of my ideas have been shat on, on /v/ and on GGH=
Q too.=C2=A0 But I never crossed that arrogant line where I decided to fuck=
ing dupe and shill people into doing it.=C2=A0 I took my rejections like an=
 adult and I soldiered on to help the community with what they wanted to do=
, to much personal detriment.<br>
<br>
And look where your little clubhouse&#39;s tantrum in the other direction h=
as gotten us.=C2=A0 In ten days, I&#39;m putting my first head on a pike, r=
ight on GGHQ in front of God and the world.=C2=A0 Its probably going to cos=
t me my board owner position, but I&#39;m past giving a fuck.<br>
<br>
Every smug tweet from John Kelly, every reply from Kohrro and Zan in that /=
baph/ thread egging them on, every &quot;Lets target this person until they=
 quit #GG&quot; troll thread going up on GGRevolt, its all just digging the=
 hole deeper and you have a spot right at the bottom with the rest of them =
unless you can give us a reason not to put you there.<br>
<br>
You fags crossed the &quot;reasonable&quot; line first, and don&#39;t you e=
ver forget it.<br>
<br>
Now if you&#39;re not going to answer any of my questions because you don&#=
39;t know, how about you just tell me what you do know?=C2=A0 It can&#39;t =
be hard to imagine what kind of information we want.=C2=A0 The lot of you p=
iss me off, but I don&#39;t break my word.<div><div><br>
<br>
<br>
On 2015-11-17 00:08, benjamin barber wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a href=3D"https://storify.com/endomorphosis/randi-oscon-shakedown" rel=3D"=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://storify.com/endomorphosis/randi-oscon=
-shakedown</a><br>
<br>
I tried to get the members of GG to wake up, but most of them do not<br>
see the big picture.<br>
<br>
I then used this to compel a bunch of tech companies to break the<br>
civil rights laws as well.<br>
<br>
I hope even you now can see that this is bigger than ethics in video<br>
games journalism.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:56 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acidman@8chan.co" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">acidman@8chan.co</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
So you don&#39;t know who they were apart from those two.<br>
<br>
Who was the author of the Titan Post from GGRevolt?=C2=A0 &quot;A Guide on =
How<br>
To Win&quot;?<br>
<br>
On 2015-11-16 17:22, benjamin barber wrote:<br>
I wasn&#39;t part of g8tans8tans group ever. But if i remember<br>
correctly<br>
niko of death, bladee and drybones, thidran were all hanging out in<br>
those days. I found out about drybones chicanery back when I was<br>
working on the GG dossier, and he tone policed the fuck out of it,<br>
and<br>
made us host it on his shitty server (which then didn&#39;t allow<br>
updates).<br>
<br>
Anyways, I spent some time with shrekbane, robin gethings, john<br>
kelly<br>
group, which had a group of people who scammed money from GG. The<br>
worst of the lot was a guy named andrewmd5 who is a serial scammer.<br>
but I noticed a few other opportunists from there as well, most of<br>
whom are no longer a part of gamergate.<br>
<br>
Then after s4t&#39;s drama with thidran, s4t came to me to research with<br=
>
him. They were part of the Dountain Dew group, which neidran talks<br>
about in this triscales post,<br>
<a href=3D"http://triscales.com/gamergate-council-exposed/" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">http://triscales.com/gamergate-council-exposed/</a> .=
 Generally speaking<br>
john kelly went around from group to group like a spy, and they shit<br>
on any projects that werent theirs.<br>
<br>
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acidman@8chan.co" t=
arget=3D"_blank">acidman@8chan.co</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
On 2015-11-15 21:30, benjamin barber wrote:<br>
You can be skeptical if you want, I haven&#39;t been in their company<br>
for<br>
a while, because I like to keep my hands clean. Unlike these guys I<br>
care about my public image, and they have been up to no good for a<br>
while.<br>
<br>
Though I think the `ethics in games journalism` is is pathetic, and<br>
S4T came to research with me after he fell out with thidrans group,<br>
until he decided to go apeshit and break the law (coercion) with his<br>
jkelly spergout.<br>
<br>
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:54 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acidman@8chan.co" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">acidman@8chan.co</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
On 2015-11-15 16:05, benjamin barber wrote:<br>
<br>
i dont know what you&#39;re working on, but I know alot about these<br>
goings<br>
on, I can provide info if you want<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=3Dbarberb.com" rel=3D"nore=
ferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=3Dbarberb.c=
om</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=3DPDX.edu" rel=3D"noreferr=
er" target=3D"_blank">http://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=3DPDX.edu</a><b=
r>
<br>
That makes two.<br>
<br>
Interesting.=C2=A0 Are these guys not on the greatest of terms with you?<br=
>
You seem to enjoy each others&#39; company a lot, so forgive me for<br>
being skeptical.<br>
<br>
Alright, I&#39;ll bite.=C2=A0 How about this:<br>
<br>
Who were -all- the other members of g8tans8tan&#39;s group who were mods<br=
>
on /gamergate/?<br>
<br>
Give me a decent answer and we&#39;ll go from there.=C2=A0 You have probabl=
y<br>
figured out by now that there&#39;s already enough known to put you on<br>
the<br>
shitlist with them.=C2=A0 For me its a matter of priorities.<br>
<br>
Give us good info and you can fuck off in peace the way Ethicssuck<br>
did.=C2=A0 I have no interest in chasing people halfway across the<br>
Internet<br>
if they&#39;re not fucking with us any longer.=C2=A0 Just note that anythin=
g<br>
you tell us is getting crosschecked with another person from your<br>
group.<br>
<br>
So how &#39;bout it?<br>
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