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  1.  02 18:55:11 <frcgamesense>     We'll be live again in just a few moments.
  2. May 02 18:55:11 <geeksquad94>   Also, Frank, you should come out to the PNW sometime. We'd love to have you at an event out here
  3. May 02 18:55:33 <1983navidshafa>        He used to, in fact he was out here at Central 2013
  4. May 02 18:56:09 <frankmerrick7> I was a regular for about three years, but missed this year, unfortunately.  Love PNW!
  5. May 02 18:57:23 <francis190>    coming live in a sec!
  6. May 02 18:58:51 <1983navidshafa>        Post show bbz, Ask us anything
  7. May 02 18:59:12 <brendanb3467>  Great work this year guys.  Definitly the best show FRC has done.
  8. May 02 18:59:16 <spectrum3847>  We're here
  9. May 02 18:59:23 <rahul469>      Agreed Brendan.
  10. May 02 18:59:26 <avanboekel11>  Thanks for all the hard work this year, guys!
  11. May 02 18:59:31 <frankmerrick7> What is your best moment, and worst moment, in FRC?
  12. May 02 18:59:36 <mman1506>      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CQXsG9s2WE&hd=1  I'm about 90% sure this auton is illegal but the refs said it was fine.
  13. May 02 18:59:37 <robodude03>    are you planning to do live recordings at events next year?
  14. May 02 19:00:05 <frankmerrick7> Yes, this is me
  15. May 02 19:00:36 <frankmerrick7> Want my SSN?
  16. May 02 19:00:42 <robodude03>    ^ HA
  17. May 02 19:00:47 <hallry1676>    Frank = best moment: being one of the 2 reps from our team that got to sit on the dome floor during Einstein/Closing Ceremonies in 2012 and 2013, Looking around, realizing that we earned our spot among the 400 best teams in the world, was incredible.
  18. May 02 19:00:52 <spectrum3847>  and other team members
  19. May 02 19:00:58 <brendanb3467>  Hi Francis!
  20. May 02 19:01:01 <brendanb3467>  Thanks for the bag
  21. May 02 19:01:04 <devenstonow>   francis-will you be doing more wrap up videos next year? the ones you did at NE Champs were awesome
  22. May 02 19:01:20 <hallry1676>    Worst moment: MAR Champs, 2012....too many comm issues...
  23. May 02 19:01:30 <hallry1676>    FTA Liz Smith was our savior, though.
  24. May 02 19:01:43 <geeksquad94>   Frank: Worst moment was einstein 2012 being down on the fieldBest moment. Being Division finalist in our 2nd year on galileo
  25. May 02 19:02:35 <frankmerrick7> Liz Smith is amazing.  Zero replays at the RPI event, and Galileo, with Paul George
  26. May 02 19:02:36 <betamarc>      Worst Moment- DQ'ing 125 in the finals of the Boston Regional 2011 for the most ridiculous violation of a rule...
  27. May 02 19:02:57 <hallry1676>    @Frank - agreed, she's amazing at her job, and as a person.
  28. May 02 19:03:13 <brendanb3467>  GSR 2013 when our robot was just not ready for the year and we still were biting off more than we could chew
  29. May 02 19:03:40 <hallry1676>    @Frank - whatever happened to Frank Answer Fridays?
  30. May 02 19:04:01 <anupamgoli>    Hey Navid
  31. May 02 19:04:07 <anupamgoli>    are we best buds?
  32. May 02 19:04:13 <1983navidshafa>        buds indeed
  33. May 02 19:04:17 <anupamgoli>    <3
  34. May 02 19:04:24 <francis190>    robolove
  35. May 02 19:04:54 <frankmerrick7> FAF is coming back soon.  I invest some time in it, and ran out of runway during build/event season
  36. May 02 19:05:01 <brendanb3467>  Loved 254/968s robot from that year
  37. May 02 19:05:06 <hallry1676>    That's what I figured, thanks =)
  38. May 02 19:05:33 <frankmerrick7> @frcgamesense, how did you guys come together?
  39. May 02 19:05:37 <brendanb3467>  1058 did locking mecs in 2011
  40. May 02 19:07:10 <frankmerrick7> Can you spell inspirulation?  
  41. May 02 19:07:17 <1983navidshafa>        Inspiralation
  42. May 02 19:07:18 <frcgamesense>  Inspiralation
  43. May 02 19:07:23 <1983navidshafa>        It's in our Chairman's Pitch
  44. May 02 19:07:35 <spectrum3847>  that's cool
  45. May 02 19:07:55 <brendanb3467>  That's cool 40!!!!
  46. May 02 19:08:14 <francis190>    40 4 life
  47. May 02 19:08:33 <alecmataloni>  #bringback40
  48. May 02 19:08:57 <brendanb3467>  NH is missing so many teams 40, 42, 134, 146, 350.
  49. May 02 19:09:20 <brendanb3467>  But yeah 40 is missed a lot
  50. May 02 19:09:22 <francis190>    good news is that 40 and 134 still do vex all the time
  51. May 02 19:09:26 <anupamgoli>    ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ raise your corndogsヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
  52. May 02 19:09:30 <geeksquad94>   hahahahahah
  53. May 02 19:09:32 <geeksquad94>   nice dave
  54. May 02 19:09:36 <frcgamesense>  ;)
  55. May 02 19:09:38 <alecmataloni>  Wait, why did 40 leave FRC?
  56. May 02 19:09:38 <francis190>    both made it to the finals on their divisions at VEX worlds
  57. May 02 19:09:50 <frankmerrick7> I was a mentor on Team 131 Chaos.  The irreplaceable Dave Kelso made a cold call to Rockwell Automation in Manchester NH and asked for the Engineering Manager,  that was me.  He was looking for a new build site.
  58. May 02 19:09:57 <francis190>    lots of reasons alec
  59. May 02 19:10:10 <extcyrav3>     2338 is love ... possibly life aswell
  60. May 02 19:10:16 <xncheckmate>   YES LEAGUE
  61. May 02 19:10:25 <brendanb3467>  Thats neat Frank
  62. May 02 19:10:29 <avanboekel11>  Extcrav3 who you is?
  63. May 02 19:10:35 <xncheckmate>   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ejswag ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  64. May 02 19:10:37 <blockhead22>   What do you guys think about the newer webcasting sites like At The Control and frcmega?
  65. May 02 19:10:42 <frankmerrick7> You guys are fabu.
  66. May 02 19:10:44 <brendanb3467>  I think 1519 did a few meetings at Rockwell in 2009
  67. May 02 19:11:01 <blockhead22>   third party frc sites i should say *
  68. May 02 19:11:11 <extcyrav3>     tis pancake Hi Adam
  69. May 02 19:11:18 <frankmerrick7> Yeah, I spoke to Captain Ken several times when he was starting up the team
  70. May 02 19:11:28 <frankmerrick7> I was an FTA
  71. May 02 19:11:53 <brendanb3467>  Haha Captain Ken
  72. May 02 19:12:00 <frankmerrick7> I decided Director of FRC was easier
  73. May 02 19:12:01 <rahul469>      FRC Mega?
  74. May 02 19:12:02 <robodude03>    http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127206&highlight=megaphone
  75. May 02 19:12:11 <brendanb3467>  Rahul
  76. May 02 19:12:18 <alecmataloni>  Rahul <3
  77. May 02 19:12:22 <devenstonow>   francis-more recap vidos next season? NE ones were legit
  78. May 02 19:12:28 <rahul469>      I'm only half paying attention :P
  79. May 02 19:12:33 <brendanb3467>  ^The NE videos were awesome
  80. May 02 19:12:41 <brendanb3467>  I'm surprised Gregor isn't here
  81. May 02 19:12:41 <francis190>    hopefully deven~ ill sepak about it once i get some time
  82. May 02 19:12:59 <devenstonow>   sweet
  83. May 02 19:13:25 <orangemoore>   537 Charger Robotics are the makers of AT the Control
  84. May 02 19:13:32 <geeksquad94>   Im so glad you decided to become director. I remember all the posts on CD saying to removing the acting from your title
  85. May 02 19:13:44 <hallry1676>    FRC Mega is not only great for spectators, but great for teams as well
  86. May 02 19:13:58 <hallry1676>    1676 has FRC Mega hooked up to their Twitter, which is hooked up to their Facebook
  87. May 02 19:14:09 <anupamgoli>    @Frank, you should pitch Fedoras as the new game piece to the GDC
  88. May 02 19:14:13 <brendanb3467>  Its great when you are competing and don't have time to keep updating tracker/spyder
  89. May 02 19:14:25 <hallry1676>    whenever 1676 is about to play a match, it automatically posts on Twitter and Facebook, to give watchers a heads up
  90. May 02 19:14:33 <hallry1676>    It also posts scores automatically after the match.
  91. May 02 19:14:48 <hallry1676>    And alliance selections.
  92. May 02 19:15:07 <extcyrav3>     BYE Adam
  93. May 02 19:15:29 <epickey>       hi adam
  94. May 02 19:15:46 <geeksquad94>   yeah navid that was nuts
  95. May 02 19:16:10 <frankmerrick7> @geeksquad94 thanks.  I'm about the luckiest man alive.  I get out of bed excited everyday.
  96. May 02 19:16:13 <avanboekel11>  who are these people??!?!
  97. May 02 19:16:22 <geeksquad94>   i was on 2898 at the time, and were on the first alliance that that triple balance took out first
  98. May 02 19:16:23 <anupamgoli>    Aliens
  99. May 02 19:16:31 <extcyrav3>     Zach And Pancake frm gear ti frwd
  100. May 02 19:16:58 <rahul469>      Lmfao
  101. May 02 19:17:07 <avanboekel11>  no, i was talking about people in the chat
  102. May 02 19:17:17 <avanboekel11>  lol, ive been watching all season
  103. May 02 19:17:24 <anupamgoli>    The most GP moment I saw in a FIRST competition was me and my scouting team giving a regional win to 11, 245, and another team I forget
  104. May 02 19:17:36 <frankmerrick7> @anupamgoli Fedoras, or those horsemasks?
  105. May 02 19:17:39 <extcyrav3>     lol
  106. May 02 19:17:43 <robodude03>    ha ha
  107. May 02 19:17:47 <devenstonow>   hahaha @anupam
  108. May 02 19:17:52 <anupamgoli>    why not both?
  109. May 02 19:18:27 <wdoherty>      Will there be coverage of IRI?
  110. May 02 19:18:34 <geeksquad94>   they did them for the washington events. We gotta get you guys down to the oregon events
  111. May 02 19:18:41 <frankmerrick7> We're always looking for new game pieces.  I'm thinking boomerangs
  112. May 02 19:19:03 <frcgamesense>  lul, boomerangs.
  113. May 02 19:19:05 <anupamgoli>    2015 game: Stack cans of mountain dew and put doritos in boxes
  114. May 02 19:19:09 <geeksquad94>   tetrix motors would still be a good game piece
  115. May 02 19:19:15 <frcgamesense>  I loled
  116. May 02 19:19:24 <xncheckmate>   As long as it's voltage
  117. May 02 19:19:27 <francis190>    Geeksquad94, you are banned
  118. May 02 19:19:33 <frcgamesense>  ehueueheueuhueu
  119. May 02 19:19:45 <anupamgoli>    Tetrix motors were already a game peice in 2011, duh
  120. May 02 19:19:47 <geeksquad94>   awwwww
  121. May 02 19:20:17 <frankmerrick7> @geeksquad94 because they don't work so well as motors?
  122. May 02 19:20:23 <rahul469>      LOL
  123. May 02 19:20:32 <robodude03>    lol
  124. May 02 19:20:50 <frankmerrick7> I think frisbees made the game last year
  125. May 02 19:20:57 <anupamgoli>    2013 from a design perspective was easily my favorite game
  126. May 02 19:21:06 <brendanb3467>  Yes Frisbees made the game!
  127. May 02 19:21:07 <frankmerrick7> Did you know the different colors were actually different weights?
  128. May 02 19:21:09 <anupamgoli>    I still liked the magic of watching triple balances in 2012 though
  129. May 02 19:21:27 <brendanb3467>  such a cool unique gamepiece that you could launch far
  130. May 02 19:21:31 <gregor_browning>       Yes, when trying to full court shoot and the coloured ones would act differently  
  131. May 02 19:21:32 <frcgamesense>  wow, really frank?
  132. May 02 19:21:38 <frcgamesense>  How many Oz. different?
  133. May 02 19:21:50 <xncheckmate>   Wow
  134. May 02 19:21:53 <onebyteshort>  The consistency of the Frisbee's was rather nice
  135. May 02 19:21:53 <spectrum3847>  a consistent game piece made the game great, can FIRST just make all their own game pieces from now on
  136. May 02 19:21:58 <geeksquad94>   2012 got bad at worlds elims when the balls went from soft to rock solid
  137. May 02 19:22:02 <frankmerrick7> I'll say they were robust.  We had all we could do to get rid of them at the end of the season
  138. May 02 19:22:19 <thebrowniee>   Navids face is great
  139. May 02 19:22:26 <nickmerc15>    the Frisbees were used this year on robots almost as much as last year in the actual game
  140. May 02 19:22:27 <rahul469>      Yeah, we saw them shoot slightly differently when we did extended testing
  141. May 02 19:22:28 <xncheckmate>   we gotta weigh the 2012 balls 1477 style xD
  142. May 02 19:22:30 <frankmerrick7> Please no
  143. May 02 19:22:34 <robodude03>    lol
  144. May 02 19:22:40 <brendanb3467>  If you need help getting rid of game pieces NH teams can help you out :P
  145. May 02 19:22:44 <spectrum3847>  figure out how to do it, VEX does it
  146. May 02 19:22:48 <bkahl195>      155 weighed this years balls.
  147. May 02 19:22:59 <anupamgoli>    OMG
  148. May 02 19:23:03 <anupamgoli>    new game piece
  149. May 02 19:23:03 <robodude03>    it must boost sales...are supplies considered by GDC?
  150. May 02 19:23:07 <bkahl195>      i dont know how, but they weighed them before they shot them every time.
  151. May 02 19:23:12 <hallry1676>    You can get water anywhere...
  152. May 02 19:23:18 <anupamgoli>    shoplifters
  153. May 02 19:23:18 <frankmerrick7> The one sure way to make sure an item will go out of production is to have us pick it as a game piece
  154. May 02 19:23:27 <frcgamesense>  lul
  155. May 02 19:23:28 <xncheckmate>   inb4 game hint
  156. May 02 19:23:40 <gregor_browning>       Frank, does FIRST warn suppliers in advance?
  157. May 02 19:23:42 <anupamgoli>    new game piece: shopping carts
  158. May 02 19:23:51 <anupamgoli>    the first game piece with swerve drives
  159. May 02 19:23:59 <xncheckmate>   *WalMart is out of stock due to international robotics competition*
  160. May 02 19:24:06 <frankmerrick7> Yes, and we get some promises.  
  161. May 02 19:24:16 <nickmerc15>    screw water game, ice hockey
  162. May 02 19:24:16 <xncheckmate>   ---news headlines around the world
  163. May 02 19:24:42 <robodude03>    *lunacy nightmares*
  164. May 02 19:25:30 <brendanb3467>  I want to lift some stuff next year
  165. May 02 19:25:37 <xncheckmate>   do you even lift
  166. May 02 19:25:40 <geeksquad94>   we need elevators back. I want to build one
  167. May 02 19:25:42 <spectrum3847>  traffic cones, lifting all the traffic cones
  168. May 02 19:25:42 <francis190>    hooooooooooold
  169. May 02 19:25:57 <robodude03>    back on
  170. May 02 19:26:02 <gregor_browning>       I want a game that can be accomplished with a single joint arm.  
  171. May 02 19:26:02 <nickmerc15>    good thing the feed went offline
  172. May 02 19:26:02 <thebrowniee>   BACK :D
  173. May 02 19:26:03 <rahul469>      Brendan, gotta eventually build that pink arm, right? :P
  174. May 02 19:26:15 <nickmerc15>    #OBS
  175. May 02 19:26:19 <xncheckmate>   Welcome to this year's game, Shamwow Slalom!
  176. May 02 19:26:27 <brendanb3467>  The internals of my Pink arm are a mess!
  177. May 02 19:26:33 <nickmerc15>    #needATT
  178. May 02 19:26:40 <xncheckmate>   frickin comcast, screwed my ping, now im bronze
  179. May 02 19:26:48 <frcgamesense>  lulz
  180. May 02 19:26:54 <thebrowniee>   NAVID, are you still in chat?
  181. May 02 19:26:59 <1983navidshafa>        yup
  182. May 02 19:27:05 <1983navidshafa>        thanks for the 1310 sweater!
  183. May 02 19:27:10 <thebrowniee>   did you get the sweater :D
  184. May 02 19:27:10 <nickmerc15>    new sponsor: uTorrent
  185. May 02 19:27:22 <thebrowniee>   haha thats what i was going too ask! ty for the shirt!!
  186. May 02 19:27:25 <xncheckmate>   Tennis? Maybe that bot from the animation will be good
  187. May 02 19:27:26 <thebrowniee>   wearing it now! :D
  188. May 02 19:27:41 <frankmerrick7> Tennis balls very small.  Think big
  189. May 02 19:27:43 <spectrum3847>  Pick and place game = http://spectrum3847.org/PIPEFALL
  190. May 02 19:28:02 <robodude03>    time to syphon some of that Google sponsorship money from 971?
  191. May 02 19:28:08 <frcgamesense>  lulz
  192. May 02 19:28:12 <frankmerrick7> Do corn dogs actually involve corn?
  193. May 02 19:28:13 <alecmataloni>  noooo
  194. May 02 19:28:13 <onebyteshort>  Pool Noodles as the 2015 game piece
  195. May 02 19:28:14 <frcgamesense>  would be nice yo
  196. May 02 19:28:17 <xncheckmate>   As long as it
  197. May 02 19:28:20 <alecmataloni>  no pipe games
  198. May 02 19:28:22 <frcgamesense>  Such corn much doge
  199. May 02 19:28:25 <hallry1676>    I don't think so, Frank
  200. May 02 19:28:28 <robodude03>    They have franks
  201. May 02 19:28:30 <xncheckmate>   the game needs to be relatively open, because fast robots are exciting.
  202. May 02 19:28:33 <xncheckmate>   http://www.sportogo.com/images/tennis%20game%201.jpg
  203. May 02 19:28:37 <nickmerc15>    corndog gamepiece
  204. May 02 19:28:39 <brendanb3467>  no corn no dogs
  205. May 02 19:28:43 <stevekaneb>    it's cornmeal batter on a hot dog
  206. May 02 19:28:43 <frankmerrick7> Navid, any game that takes this long to describe is not a good game :)
  207. May 02 19:28:44 <alecmataloni>  nightmares of FTC get over it
  208. May 02 19:28:55 <frcgamesense>  Appears to be cornmeal batter on corndogs
  209. May 02 19:29:03 <nickmerc15>    need a required amount of corndogs on the robot every match to give to refs
  210. May 02 19:29:17 <hallry1676>    Well, the Spider in 2007 kinda moved.
  211. May 02 19:29:22 <robodude03>    https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/p235x350/10006188_504937961333_3184757924201823780_n.jpg
  212. May 02 19:29:37 <xncheckmate>   Robots? now ay
  213. May 02 19:29:40 <xncheckmate>   *no way
  214. May 02 19:29:42 <nickmerc15>    caqn has game?
  215. May 02 19:29:43 <frankmerrick7> Ghu.  'Appears'?  This is not a good start
  216. May 02 19:30:21 <xncheckmate>   EJ your team is here tomorrow big?
  217. May 02 19:30:21 <nickmerc15>    were talking about corndogs? wheres jared?
  218. May 02 19:30:41 <nickmerc15>    ^ivebeencompromised
  219. May 02 19:30:59 <xncheckmate>   maybe collegeboard should design the game
  220. May 02 19:31:07 <frankmerrick7> Did Evan just teleport?
  221. May 02 19:31:09 <qwoptillyoudrop>       Yay! Corndogs!
  222. May 02 19:31:12 <nickmerc15>    ^nooooooooo
  223. May 02 19:31:43 <frankmerrick7> We've got a list of criteria we use for game design, some you've mentioned
  224. May 02 19:31:50 <geeksquad94>   yeah i way underrated the low goal
  225. May 02 19:31:52 <spectrum3847>  low goal was great
  226. May 02 19:31:58 <alecmataloni>  @dave, 254 used it on einstein
  227. May 02 19:32:08 <nickmerc15>    #bringmistaEJback
  228. May 02 19:32:16 <spectrum3847>  I did
  229. May 02 19:32:17 <robodude03>    I did
  230. May 02 19:32:18 <alecmataloni>  because if 254's drivers miss a high goal shot twice in a cycle, they have to do pushups
  231. May 02 19:32:22 <robodude03>    human players
  232. May 02 19:32:31 <xncheckmate>   and 148's
  233. May 02 19:32:34 <brendanb3467>  omg 190s robot from 2004
  234. May 02 19:32:34 <xncheckmate>   i think
  235. May 02 19:32:35 <gregor_browning>       twice?  Soft
  236. May 02 19:32:36 <frankmerrick7> Do you put ketchup on corn dogs?  Mustard?  Guac?
  237. May 02 19:32:48 <xncheckmate>   ketchup imo
  238. May 02 19:32:49 <stevekaneb>    mustard
  239. May 02 19:32:51 <nickmerc15>    yeah so if our drivers miss a shot in the high goal we have a rule that we have to score it in the low goal to get it out and get a new cycle in
  240. May 02 19:32:51 <robodude03>    mustard
  241. May 02 19:32:53 <rahul469>      2013
  242. May 02 19:32:55 <xncheckmate>   2013
  243. May 02 19:32:55 <gregor_browning>       2013.  
  244. May 02 19:32:57 <devenstonow>   2012 or 2004
  245. May 02 19:32:58 <qwoptillyoudrop>       Ultimate Ascent
  246. May 02 19:32:59 <onebyteshort>  2014
  247. May 02 19:33:00 <bkahl195>      2006
  248. May 02 19:33:01 <avanboekel11>  2014
  249. May 02 19:33:03 <thebrowniee>   2003
  250. May 02 19:33:03 <robodude03>    2013 is up there
  251. May 02 19:33:10 <brendanb3467>  top 3: 2013, 2006, 2005
  252. May 02 19:33:10 <mman1506>      865 never missed a high goal shot :D
  253. May 02 19:33:14 <qwoptillyoudrop>       2012 was nice too
  254. May 02 19:33:14 <onebyteshort>  2012 & 2014
  255. May 02 19:33:15 <alecmataloni>  and i know 469's drive teams do pushups for every penalty point they get
  256. May 02 19:33:15 <robodude03>    2006 loved auton chess, ramp camp
  257. May 02 19:33:17 <geeksquad94>   I've been around since 2010. Rank in order would go 2013, 2014, 2012, 2011, then 2010
  258. May 02 19:33:20 <frankmerrick7> I love all our games in their own special way
  259. May 02 19:33:21 <spectrum3847>  2013 and 2014 are my favorite, but I also like 2003 so I'm probably wrong
  260. May 02 19:33:36 <rahul469>      Alec, I'm glad I graduated before this year. :P
  261. May 02 19:33:38 <devenstonow>   does this mean all the games are like children to frank?
  262. May 02 19:33:38 <geeksquad94>   before i was around from stories and videos ive seen 2009 and 2003 were close to the bottom.
  263. May 02 19:33:40 <alecmataloni>  hahahahahaha
  264. May 02 19:33:57 <nickmerc15>    our school doesnt let EJ and Travis sentence us to pushups anymore. corporal punishment
  265. May 02 19:33:58 <xncheckmate>   2013 > 2012 > 2014 > 2010 > 2011 > every other year > 2009
  266. May 02 19:34:06 <brendanb3467>  grrrr i want a corndog now
  267. May 02 19:34:14 <frcgamesense>  http://strawpoll.me/1622406
  268. May 02 19:34:25 <francis190>    go to this link and vote on best game NA
  269. May 02 19:34:26 <gregor_browning>       What if I said I didn't like corndogs.  
  270. May 02 19:34:38 <frankmerrick7> But I didn't necessarily love Lunacy as much of the others.
  271. May 02 19:34:41 <brendanb3467>  Gregor stay in canada
  272. May 02 19:34:53 <quicksilverblitz>      lol my school used to have several pushup bets against some of our bellarmine rivals (albeit debate, not robotics)
  273. May 02 19:35:32 <xncheckmate>   I like games where robots can interact with each other, like 2014 and 2009...but...2009 was kind of extreme with the human players and nonrecycling/lack of game pieces at a high level
  274. May 02 19:35:34 <frankmerrick7> But Lunacy had very few penalties, I think.....
  275. May 02 19:35:39 <nickmerc15>    ^now they "suggest" that we do pushups
  276. May 02 19:35:47 <nickmerc15>    or run a few laps around the lab
  277. May 02 19:35:50 <brendanb3467>  I think if aerial assist was after lunacy it would have been better received if it wasn't in the wake of 2013 which was one of the best  ever
  278. May 02 19:35:53 <robodude03>    seatbelt penalty 2009...
  279. May 02 19:35:56 <anupamgoli>    2013
  280. May 02 19:35:58 <francis190>    http://strawpoll.me/1622406
  281. May 02 19:36:02 <francis190>    vote here
  282. May 02 19:36:10 <frankmerrick7> Oh, right, seatbelts
  283. May 02 19:36:13 <geeksquad94>   what game has few penaties, frank? my computer is automatically censoring that 2nd word :D
  284. May 02 19:36:20 <xncheckmate>   Yeah robotics tries to rival the other clubs in our school. We definitely outshine Science Olympiad, but FBLA kind of presents a challenge
  285. May 02 19:36:20 <francis190>    also touching empty cells early
  286. May 02 19:36:30 <francis190>    err bonus balls
  287. May 02 19:36:36 <xncheckmate>   like competition wise
  288. May 02 19:36:47 <alecmataloni>  i actually hate corndogs
  289. May 02 19:36:48 <hallry1676>    @Geeksquad - Lunacy.
  290. May 02 19:36:52 <alecmataloni>  get @ me
  291. May 02 19:37:18 <gregor_browning>       2009 had the weird technical rule about a "penalty" in the next match outscoring your opponents by a large margin.  
  292. May 02 19:37:24 <gregor_browning>       That's a different kind of penalty
  293. May 02 19:37:37 <david2485>     I'd have to say 2014
  294. May 02 19:37:42 <robodude03>    yes
  295. May 02 19:37:45 <robodude03>    agreed
  296. May 02 19:37:53 <robodude03>    lol
  297. May 02 19:37:53 <david2485>     Yessssss chat's working again
  298. May 02 19:37:59 <francis190>    http://strawpoll.me/1622406 vote best game here, see it on screen
  299. May 02 19:38:02 <brendanb3467>  haha
  300. May 02 19:38:08 <robodude03>    they have to take certain risks
  301. May 02 19:38:10 <david2485>     Chat was broken on Chrome, idk if that's an issue with you guys, Chrome, or twitch
  302. May 02 19:38:18 <robodude03>    and see what works
  303. May 02 19:38:20 <francis190>    likely chrome/your connection
  304. May 02 19:38:20 <xncheckmate>   im using twitch on chrome
  305. May 02 19:38:22 <rahul469>      Chat working on Chrome here.
  306. May 02 19:38:27 <quicksilverblitz>      chat's fine on chrome for me
  307. May 02 19:38:27 <hallry1676>    @David - working fine for me, Chrome and Twitch.
  308. May 02 19:38:28 <gregor_browning>       Chrome and twitch are fine for me.  
  309. May 02 19:38:30 <robodude03>    twitch on chrome, no issue
  310. May 02 19:38:33 <david2485>     Weird
  311. May 02 19:38:44 <david2485>     It was broken for the entire cast tonight too
  312. May 02 19:38:46 <gregor_browning>       2012 was the best game
  313. May 02 19:38:49 <gregor_browning>       and then 2013 happened
  314. May 02 19:38:54 <rahul469>      ^
  315. May 02 19:39:05 <robodude03>    ^
  316. May 02 19:39:05 <hallry1676>    Everything changed when Ultimate Ascent attacked.
  317. May 02 19:39:06 <brendanb3467>  meh
  318. May 02 19:39:07 <alecmataloni>  only bad thing about 2012 seasons were white bridge and einstein
  319. May 02 19:39:10 <xncheckmate>   probably twitch screwing with your login
  320. May 02 19:39:12 <brendanb3467>  2006 was better than 2012 IMHO
  321. May 02 19:39:16 <spectrum3847>  They needed something in 2012 for young teams to do, at least allow defense for rookie teams
  322. May 02 19:39:24 <david2485>     You counting votes anymore?
  323. May 02 19:39:26 <quicksilverblitz>      I feel like 2012 was generally marred by more connectivity issues than usual
  324. May 02 19:39:30 <david2485>     Oh
  325. May 02 19:39:30 <robodude03>    Brendan agree
  326. May 02 19:39:32 <david2485>     Nvm
  327. May 02 19:39:33 <stevekaneb>    hey, somebody want to talk about my crazy ranking system opinion
  328. May 02 19:39:34 <frcgamesense>  http://strawpoll.me/1622406
  329. May 02 19:39:35 <nickmerc15>    ads....
  330. May 02 19:39:37 <frcgamesense>  Vote is still live
  331. May 02 19:39:42 <spectrum3847>  the bump made some teams not that useful in a lot of matches, and then could have been improved
  332. May 02 19:39:44 <gregor_browning>       Coop bridge being the first tiebreaker would have added a very interesting strategic dynamic
  333. May 02 19:40:03 <nickmerc15>    ChezyChamps 2014, who's coming?
  334. May 02 19:40:07 <frankmerrick7> One of our intentions with penalty values is not to put teams in a situation in which they consider 'taking the penalty' for a strategic advantage
  335. May 02 19:40:07 <rahul469>      Ohh the 2010 6v0
  336. May 02 19:40:32 <alecmataloni>  2010 ranking system sucked
  337. May 02 19:40:36 <stevekaneb>    2010 ranking system w/o the ability to score your opponents' balls
  338. May 02 19:40:37 <robodude03>    2010 wop wop
  339. May 02 19:40:43 <rahul469>      I mean
  340. May 02 19:40:48 <rahul469>      It wasn't pretty
  341. May 02 19:40:48 <stevekaneb>    it improves every game
  342. May 02 19:40:56 <david2485>     ChezyChamps: MAYBE! :D
  343. May 02 19:40:57 <rahul469>      But it did a good job at ranking the best teams first.
  344. May 02 19:41:12 <alecmataloni>  hostile 6v0 was lame
  345. May 02 19:41:22 <david2485>     Ohhhhhhhh
  346. May 02 19:41:25 <rahul469>      You mean 4v0 while blocking your own goals? :P
  347. May 02 19:41:26 <david2485>     That needs to happen
  348. May 02 19:41:29 <david2485>     Oh my god
  349. May 02 19:41:30 <robodude03>    HA
  350. May 02 19:41:47 <xncheckmate>   fots shired
  351. May 02 19:41:55 <frankmerrick7> Awesome, love it.  Come up with the 2020 game name, then design the game around it.
  352. May 02 19:42:08 <francis190>    worth
  353. May 02 19:42:11 <hallry1676>    What could go wrong?
  354. May 02 19:42:15 <frcgamesense>  We're only trying to help, Frank. :P
  355. May 02 19:42:18 <frcgamesense>  Just make it a throwback game with elements from all the best first games...
  356. May 02 19:42:19 <xncheckmate>   have the robot scoring on the driver station like 2011
  357. May 02 19:42:23 <frcgamesense>  boom done, game designed.
  358. May 02 19:42:25 <stevekaneb>    Preach, Evan
  359. May 02 19:42:29 <brendanb3467>  2020 game.  replay a year with some modifications to make it better
  360. May 02 19:42:30 <alecmataloni>  Go ahead and take it with a grain of salt
  361. May 02 19:42:33 <gregor_browning>       Evan wins.  
  362. May 02 19:42:33 <devenstonow>   ugh i hate scoring towards yourself
  363. May 02 19:42:44 <xncheckmate>   yeah it sucks
  364. May 02 19:42:58 <brendanb3467>  Wow, I've always hated the 2010 ranking system and even just school my opinion.
  365. May 02 19:43:04 <brendanb3467>  *evan
  366. May 02 19:43:07 <alecmataloni>  because 6v0 ruined our chances of getting #1 seed in 2010
  367. May 02 19:43:07 <qwoptillyoudrop>       Frisbees and basketballs
  368. May 02 19:43:15 <francis190>    knowledge bombs have been dropped
  369. May 02 19:43:21 <brendanb3467>  seriously!
  370. May 02 19:43:31 <rahul469>      Lol Alec
  371. May 02 19:43:36 <gregor_browning>       Evan just gave 2010 a different perspective
  372. May 02 19:43:47 <david2485>     Want to explain the 2010 ranking system to me? Second year......
  373. May 02 19:43:47 <gregor_browning>       Aw Alec
  374. May 02 19:44:02 <xncheckmate>   Can someone give me a summary of the 2010 system?
  375. May 02 19:44:10 <rahul469>      If you won the match, you got your score + 2x your opponents score + 5
  376. May 02 19:44:12 <frankmerrick7> @gamesense with the 2014 game, schedules can dramatically affect ranking.  Does good scouting make up for this?
  377. May 02 19:44:16 <rahul469>      If you lost, you got your opponents score
  378. May 02 19:44:22 <david2485>     Sounds awesome
  379. May 02 19:44:26 <frcgamesense>  @Frank no.
  380. May 02 19:44:28 <devenstonow>   Yes. Good scouting does @Frank
  381. May 02 19:44:29 <brendanb3467>  Mid season they added +5 to give incentive to win
  382. May 02 19:44:36 <devenstonow>   lol
  383. May 02 19:44:41 <robodude03>    good scouting will show you the points to pressure the alliance
  384. May 02 19:44:42 <xncheckmate>   How does that put the better teams at the top?
  385. May 02 19:44:44 <david2485>     *definitely* does.
  386. May 02 19:45:01 <avanboekel11>  People werent around for breakaway? Wow i feel old
  387. May 02 19:45:03 <frankmerrick7> I've got one yes, one no
  388. May 02 19:45:07 <gregor_browning>       No, because if you concede that good schedules dramatically affect rankings, which means that the best robots don't seed first, which is a failure of a ranking system.
  389. May 02 19:45:11 <frcgamesense>  I'll tell you why after Evan does his spcheal Frank
  390. May 02 19:45:18 <francis190>    me first quick
  391. May 02 19:45:22 <david2485>     Hell, only seniors who started freshman year were around for Breakaway
  392. May 02 19:45:27 <david2485>     Lol
  393. May 02 19:45:32 <hallry1676>    Eh, schedules definitely had a big impact on ranking. Maybe it just feels like we always had bad luck with scheduling.
  394. May 02 19:45:37 <brendanb3467>  breakaway was my senior year
  395. May 02 19:45:43 <devenstonow>   nope. Assuming four year team, college freshman (like myself) had their rookie years be breakaway
  396. May 02 19:45:50 <robodude03>    scouting gets you information and habits of robots
  397. May 02 19:45:51 <rahul469>      Any kid who was in breakaway is in college now. :P
  398. May 02 19:45:59 <brendanb3467>  lol rahul would know
  399. May 02 19:46:02 <devenstonow>   or graduating this year @_@
  400. May 02 19:46:06 <stevekaneb>    968
  401. May 02 19:46:08 <quicksilverblitz>      @avanboekel11 - right?? junior in college right now and I just realized I've somehow already been involved directly with 7 seasons
  402. May 02 19:46:23 <nickmerc15>    First time i met EJ was my freshman year at NASA and he towered over me as i was a puny freshmen
  403. May 02 19:46:30 <robodude03>    most teams will form habits and show where they are comfortable to play
  404. May 02 19:46:33 <hallry1676>    Can we get the EJ head and corndog off the screen?
  405. May 02 19:46:42 <david2485>     First time I met EJ was oh wait I haven't met EJ
  406. May 02 19:46:46 <xncheckmate>   ^
  407. May 02 19:46:46 <nickmerc15>    now hes the man
  408. May 02 19:46:49 <robodude03>    given that info you can push teams to play out of their comfort
  409. May 02 19:46:49 <david2485>     @Hallry NO
  410. May 02 19:46:53 <david2485>     MOVE IT
  411. May 02 19:46:54 <hallry1676>    -.-
  412. May 02 19:46:57 <david2485>     BUT DO NOT REMOVE IT
  413. May 02 19:46:58 <frankmerrick7> Didn't mean to open a can
  414. May 02 19:47:02 <david2485>     NEVER REMOVE THE CORN DOG
  415. May 02 19:47:07 <thebrowniee>   HEYYYYY gregor
  416. May 02 19:47:10 <frankmerrick7> of worms, or anything else
  417. May 02 19:47:12 <frcgamesense>  It's a good can, but one we talk about a lot. :)
  418. May 02 19:47:14 <nickmerc15>    he's just a big cuddly teddy bear
  419. May 02 19:47:23 <frcgamesense>  Talk about offline, I should say.
  420. May 02 19:47:39 <gregor_browning>       Hi Rishi ;)
  421. May 02 19:47:50 <david2485>     Hahahahahahaha
  422. May 02 19:47:51 <thebrowniee>   oh what, youre here 0_0
  423. May 02 19:48:04 <thebrowniee>   well, i should have expected that
  424. May 02 19:48:29 <brendanb3467>  *cough* 2014
  425. May 02 19:48:33 <francis190>    Vote for your favorite game at http://strawpoll.me/1622406 and tell us what you think!
  426. May 02 19:48:39 <robodude03>    exactly EVAN!
  427. May 02 19:48:53 <frankmerrick7> Try to think of a sport in which individuals play only in teams, but you try to identify the performance of individuals.  I can't think of one.
  428. May 02 19:49:07 <1983navidshafa>        @Frank League of Legends
  429. May 02 19:49:14 <1983navidshafa>        E-sport
  430. May 02 19:49:18 <xncheckmate>   LOL
  431. May 02 19:49:23 <thebrowniee>   ^
  432. May 02 19:49:24 <alecmataloni>  Frank, good scouting in SOME cases will help a team's chances with a difficult schedule. It really depends on the competency of whoever's in picking position. I've seen awesome alliance selections and pitiful ones where many good teams who got dealt a difficult hand didn't get to shine after lunch on staturday.
  433. May 02 19:49:42 <xncheckmate>   my scouting data says TSM > 254
  434. May 02 19:49:44 <alecmataloni>  It depends on how well the teams get sorted
  435. May 02 19:49:48 <gregor_browning>       Served by LoL
  436. May 02 19:50:00 <david2485>     I feel like good scouting by *other* teams is more likely to help a good team that got screwed over by their schedule than good scouting by the team screwed over.
  437. May 02 19:50:05 <frankmerrick7> League of who's a what now?  
  438. May 02 19:50:11 <hallry1676>    @Gregor - never thought id heard those words in a sentence before....
  439. May 02 19:50:14 <hallry1676>    *hear
  440. May 02 19:50:17 <francis190>    its a game you play onthe internet
  441. May 02 19:50:22 <quicksilverblitz>      High school dodgeball
  442. May 02 19:50:30 <robodude03>    then you get scorched earth!
  443. May 02 19:50:31 <frankmerrick7> The inter what?
  444. May 02 19:50:43 <david2485>     It's a series of tubes
  445. May 02 19:50:44 <wdoherty>      With the ranking system discussion now, do you feel that auto points would have been a better 1st tiebreak?
  446. May 02 19:50:44 <hallry1676>    NASCAR has teams...kinda.
  447. May 02 19:50:51 <gregor_browning>       Frank, this talk for the generation who don't know what the Beatles do.  
  448. May 02 19:50:53 <xncheckmate>   It's a 5v5 online free to play game. It's (I think) the most popular game of its genre currently in the world.
  449. May 02 19:51:04 <gregor_browning>       For all you oldies out there
  450. May 02 19:51:10 <francis190>    some say its the most popular video game in the world
  451. May 02 19:51:18 <rahul469>      I think it's the most popular game in the world, period. At least in terms of active number of players.
  452. May 02 19:51:43 <xncheckmate>   I've talked to seeral FRC teams who all have active players l0l
  453. May 02 19:51:46 <xncheckmate>   *several
  454. May 02 19:51:47 <1983navidshafa>        Frank, 1/10 don't recommend. Imagine alliances that aren't GP and insult each other. They need to assist each other, but some people put a battery on the field and you lose league
  455. May 02 19:51:53 <landonh12>     Francis190.. nah. Call of Duty
  456. May 02 19:52:03 <xncheckmate>   It's OK! Just report them after the match.
  457. May 02 19:52:25 <alecmataloni>  Yeah, the LoL community is notorious for being full of jerks.
  458. May 02 19:52:35 <anupamgoli>    man, i left for 20 minutes to move stuff, and how we're talking about call of duty
  459. May 02 19:52:35 <robodude03>    OPR
  460. May 02 19:52:45 <anupamgoli>    and LoL
  461. May 02 19:52:49 <francis190>    Tell us your favorite game at http://strawpoll.me/1622406 ! See your vote on screen
  462. May 02 19:53:01 <xncheckmate>   Oh you missed a shot? Reported. You hold on to the ball for 5 years? Reported.
  463. May 02 19:53:07 <geeksquad94>   12 matches at districts usually means you have played with 2/3 of the teams there. and against 90% of them. that makes ranking smaller events much better
  464. May 02 19:53:18 <anupamgoli>    Similar to CS:GO's ranking
  465. May 02 19:53:19 <anupamgoli>    it's ELO
  466. May 02 19:53:22 <david2485>     Or Microsoft TrueSkill
  467. May 02 19:53:38 <anupamgoli>    It would be great to have a thinktank that does stat analysis
  468. May 02 19:53:40 <frankmerrick7> In LoL, how many 'matches' are played?
  469. May 02 19:53:41 <hallry1676>    @Geeksquad, though, sometimes you end up playing against the same teams time after time again.
  470. May 02 19:53:42 <xncheckmate>   254 and 1114 would be challenger...and many rookie teams would be Bronze.
  471. May 02 19:53:47 <landonh12>     MOBAs in general have horrible communities
  472. May 02 19:53:52 <francis190>    infinite, its a video game you play for entertainment
  473. May 02 19:53:53 <anupamgoli>    I'm sure you could get a team's scouting info from every regional and come up with something
  474. May 02 19:53:54 <frcgamesense>  @Frank it is a continuous ladder.
  475. May 02 19:53:57 <1983navidshafa>        You play 10 games in leage to get ranked initially
  476. May 02 19:54:01 <stevekaneb>    my analogies!
  477. May 02 19:54:05 <francis190>    so its hard to make a 1:1 analogy
  478. May 02 19:54:10 <hallry1676>    @Greeksquad - for example, in 12 district qual matches, we played against the same team 3 times.
  479. May 02 19:54:11 <stevekaneb>    they're spilled all over the floor
  480. May 02 19:54:26 <geeksquad94>   yeah i think the max we ever played was 2
  481. May 02 19:54:29 <xncheckmate>   As many matches as you want. You play to climb a ladder to show you're the best in the region. But to get ranked initially, you play 10 provisional matches against opponents of varied skill.
  482. May 02 19:54:35 <robodude03>    scorched earth, denials...
  483. May 02 19:54:36 <stevekaneb>    heck, we used to play against the same team 4 times in 2007, in 7 matches!
  484. May 02 19:54:42 <stevekaneb>    uphill, both ways
  485. May 02 19:54:46 <stevekaneb>    barefoot
  486. May 02 19:54:55 <frcgamesense>  Your frosted tips are showing Steve
  487. May 02 19:54:56 <hallry1676>    while hailing.
  488. May 02 19:54:58 <xncheckmate>   If you win against tougher opponents, youa re supposedly better than them. If you lose to weaker opponents, you will be ranked lower. Essentially similar to OPR.
  489. May 02 19:55:01 <geeksquad94>   i honestly think a change needs to be made to the ranking system that does not allow teams to play against each other more then once. any schedule like that should be thrown out.
  490. May 02 19:55:01 <david2485>     Kik
  491. May 02 19:55:05 <david2485>     Dammit
  492. May 02 19:55:12 <anupamgoli>    I think 2010's ranking system came close
  493. May 02 19:55:17 <david2485>     Lol* hate when you get fingers on the wrong keys
  494. May 02 19:55:21 <anupamgoli>    but the game's 6v0 loophole suck
  495. May 02 19:55:33 <robodude03>    scorched earth denials hurt the team getting denied and always must be explained by the MC as it may have a bad look for spectators
  496. May 02 19:55:43 <xncheckmate>   I can't believe we're talking about LoL...this is more my language ^^
  497. May 02 19:56:06 <anupamgoli>    Meh. I hate the AP polls in the college football world
  498. May 02 19:56:14 <extcyrav3>     u
  499. May 02 19:56:15 <anupamgoli>    One win can screw you out of the championships
  500. May 02 19:56:18 <anupamgoli>    one loss*
  501. May 02 19:56:30 <david2485>     NO
  502. May 02 19:56:31 <bkahl195>      NO
  503. May 02 19:56:35 <david2485>     NO THEY DID NOT
  504. May 02 19:56:39 <anupamgoli>    UGA V Alabama was the real
  505. May 02 19:56:45 <anupamgoli>    UGA V Alabama was the real Championship
  506. May 02 19:56:51 <david2485>     EXACTLY.
  507. May 02 19:57:17 <anupamgoli>    oh crap, sorry
  508. May 02 19:57:21 <anupamgoli>    not UGA. U(sig)GA
  509. May 02 19:57:26 <spectrum3847>  2010 also hurt defensive teams, and you're now ranked on something different then how you win the whole tournament since winning is all that matters in elims. Still a good system it just encourage offense which some people will like.
  510. May 02 19:57:29 <anupamgoli>    (sic*)
  511. May 02 19:58:00 <bkahl195>      Is equal schedule difficulty incorporated into the scheduling algorithm?
  512. May 02 19:58:03 <frankmerrick7> To have a game that ranks teams fairly based on their individual performance, do we need games in which individual robots can 'win the match on their own', without involving Alliance partners?
  513. May 02 19:58:07 <david2485>     SO
  514. May 02 19:58:08 <robodude03>    good stuff
  515. May 02 19:58:12 <david2485>     BACK TO 2014
  516. May 02 19:58:21 <anupamgoli>    talking robots all night is awesome
  517. May 02 19:58:27 <spencer_tickman>       Just signed in
  518. May 02 19:58:28 <anupamgoli>    Navid knows
  519. May 02 19:58:33 <gregor_browning>       I believe that would be an admirable goal, but not everyone would agree
  520. May 02 19:58:53 <robodude03>    ha
  521. May 02 19:59:05 <anupamgoli>    2012. Without Coop bridges
  522. May 02 19:59:33 <stevekaneb>    I'll advocate for looking at 2k14 with 2k10's ranking system with different multipliers
  523. May 02 19:59:39 <xncheckmate>   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  524. May 02 19:59:48 <rahul469>      Plus or minus 5 degrees. ;)
  525. May 02 19:59:49 <stevekaneb>    the best teams were the ones that made their alliances work the best together
  526. May 02 19:59:57 <xncheckmate>   Just do 2012, except with the bridge being the first tiebreaker if you want to do coopertition
  527. May 02 20:00:23 <david2485>     Mine's this year's
  528. May 02 20:00:36 <david2485>     Aerial Assist definitely had the best endgame ever.
  529. May 02 20:00:39 <david2485>     Easily.
  530. May 02 20:00:50 <anupamgoli>    you mean the SECRET ENDGAME?!???!?
  531. May 02 20:01:02 <anupamgoli>    2014 end game: best kept secret ever
  532. May 02 20:01:08 <david2485>     Nah, the lack of one. Actually, the secret endgame (penalties) sucked.
  533. May 02 20:01:25 <xncheckmate>   so secret the teams didnt even know until the season ended
  534. May 02 20:01:25 <spencer_tickman>       2012 was the worst ranking system i can imagine. Our robot was awful, we couldn't get on the bridge. We got lucky and ranked 5th even though we lost most of our matches, coopertition points didnt work
  535. May 02 20:01:34 <robodude03>    agree Evan
  536. May 02 20:01:42 <spectrum3847>  There were some people that did real assists in 2012, when they would feed the good shooter on an alliance
  537. May 02 20:01:47 <robodude03>    give incentive, game must be more diverse
  538. May 02 20:01:47 <devenstonow>   HEY GUYS WHAT ABOUT COOPERTITION 2011
  539. May 02 20:01:53 <frankmerrick7> On the GDC, we talked about 'assists' not matching exactly what is considered an assist in sports.
  540. May 02 20:02:01 <wdoherty>      Could there be a system where offensive and defensive performances were equally weighted in rankings? A robot that could do both would then be ranked higher for more rounded performance, but it might be raised disproportionately.
  541. May 02 20:02:22 <xncheckmate>   In 2012 our team was the only undefeated team at the regional and we didnt get what wouldve been our first no. 1 seed
  542. May 02 20:02:22 <hallry1676>    @Deven - you mean giving your minibot to another team, until you needed to take it back from them when they were on the alliance you were playing against?
  543. May 02 20:02:52 <frankmerrick7> @Spectrum, is that Allen?
  544. May 02 20:03:13 <spectrum3847>  yeah and a couple students still in the lab, but I'm typing.
  545. May 02 20:03:15 <david2485>     THAT
  546. May 02 20:03:18 <david2485>     WAS SO ANNOYING
  547. May 02 20:03:24 <david2485>     OH GOD THAT BUGGED ME FOR MONTHS
  548. May 02 20:03:31 <frankmerrick7> Hey, awesome
  549. May 02 20:03:37 <anupamgoli>    Also a lot of our students got confused of the wording ot he assists
  550. May 02 20:03:38 <david2485>     Lol sorry
  551. May 02 20:03:53 <xncheckmate>   What're you guys doing in the lab? No breaks, eh
  552. May 02 20:03:54 <david2485>     I just wanted it to be called "possessions" or just make it 0, 1, and 2 assists
  553. May 02 20:04:08 <anupamgoli>    most people thought it was just giving the ball to another robot. Had to correct them and say "unique robot in unique zone" sooo many times
  554. May 02 20:04:21 <bkahl195>      A-BOMB!!!!!
  555. May 02 20:04:32 <frankmerrick7> We though of that first 'assist' as being the human player inbounding as assisting the robot.  Not perfect, I know.
  556. May 02 20:04:34 <stevekaneb>    oh yea the A-bomb worked so well they lost einstein
  557. May 02 20:04:45 <david2485>     That actually makes so much more sense now
  558. May 02 20:04:46 <robodude03>    man I remember Einstein and the crowd going crazy
  559. May 02 20:04:51 <david2485>     Wow
  560. May 02 20:04:59 <1983navidshafa>        It's all good Frank. I guess that could make sense, but the points didn't match up with it for me.
  561. May 02 20:05:02 <bkahl195>      I was just about to mention this
  562. May 02 20:05:08 <david2485>     Same for me
  563. May 02 20:05:13 <1983navidshafa>        If 1 robot scored in the low goal, they didn't get "assist" points
  564. May 02 20:05:13 <anupamgoli>    I remember watching that as a wee tyke
  565. May 02 20:05:40 <1983navidshafa>        1 Robot didn't get "assist" points for the high goal they got points for putting it in the high goal
  566. May 02 20:05:49 <hallry1676>    1676 and 56 did that in Rutgers 2012 to win.
  567. May 02 20:05:51 <david2485>     Exactly
  568. May 02 20:05:51 <robodude03>    one of the most exciting matches I've seen
  569. May 02 20:05:57 <stevekaneb>    whatever, steve's just a jerk
  570. May 02 20:06:04 <rahul469>      Whoops. xD
  571. May 02 20:06:09 <robodude03>    http://www.thebluealliance.com/event/2006cmp
  572. May 02 20:06:41 <gregor_browning>       It was legit because it had never been called all season.  
  573. May 02 20:06:47 <bkahl195>      TJIS^
  574. May 02 20:06:51 <bkahl195>      THIS^
  575. May 02 20:07:07 <frankmerrick7> 2014 = hardest game design I've ever participated in.
  576. May 02 20:07:16 <spectrum3847>  04 was the best HP year
  577. May 02 20:07:20 <stevekaneb>    I think that's the proper way to look at it, gregor
  578. May 02 20:07:29 <david2485>     Honestly though, I absolutely loved the design of this year's game.
  579. May 02 20:07:32 <gregor_browning>       If it had been called all season, I could see the situation where 469's trussing could have been called illegal.  
  580. May 02 20:07:37 <rahul469>      I liked being a HP in 2011 more than I liked  being operator the two years after. Throwing tubes was just a ton of fun.
  581. May 02 20:07:48 <gregor_browning>       But 469 was playing the game it had been played all season, so that makes it ok in my mind.  
  582. May 02 20:07:48 <frankmerrick7> Human players more important than we imagined.  We were worried they wouldn't have enough to do!
  583. May 02 20:07:59 <david2485>     This year's Einstein, imho, were the three best FRC matches of all time.
  584. May 02 20:08:15 <anupamgoli>    oh god 2009
  585. May 02 20:08:18 <stevekaneb>    I think this is about the upper bounds of what I like to see from human players affecting matches
  586. May 02 20:08:28 <anupamgoli>    < alliance captains in archimedes in 2009 because our human player was good
  587. May 02 20:08:49 <gregor_browning>       I think the human player involvement this year was perfect.  
  588. May 02 20:08:54 <robodude03>    David its up there, I would say 2006 is definitely up there as well
  589. May 02 20:09:05 <spectrum3847>  never been a fan of HPs, I enjoyed doing it as a student, but even then I didn't like it. I like it this year a lot, no direct scoring. Last year they should have removed the last bit
  590. May 02 20:09:07 <david2485>     Yeah
  591. May 02 20:09:11 <david2485>     But I prefer this year's game, so
  592. May 02 20:09:52 <david2485>     YESS
  593. May 02 20:09:57 <david2485>     Correct choices
  594. May 02 20:10:00 <anupamgoli>    i bet its from the high of championships
  595. May 02 20:10:00 <hallry1676>    2013 had half the votes.
  596. May 02 20:10:03 <frankmerrick7> Hey, 2014 came in 2nd!
  597. May 02 20:10:06 <robodude03>    we are old
  598. May 02 20:10:22 <david2485>     254 *was* the most dominant robot.
  599. May 02 20:10:26 <hallry1676>    Shooting games seem to be favorited, too.
  600. May 02 20:10:28 <rahul469>      People are going to argue that 71 2002 isn't the most dominant robot ever? :P
  601. May 02 20:10:35 <gregor_browning>       If I could play any game again it would be 2014.  And I'm not the biggest fan of 2014.  
  602. May 02 20:10:36 <david2485>     True
  603. May 02 20:10:46 <1983navidshafa>        @Rahul the majority of people know nothing about 71
  604. May 02 20:10:55 <anupamgoli>    It's a shame
  605. May 02 20:10:56 <hallry1676>    ^ That's sad.
  606. May 02 20:11:01 <rahul469>      That's kinda scary
  607. May 02 20:11:05 <anupamgoli>    71 was a household name when i was a freshman in high school
  608. May 02 20:11:07 <robodude03>    that's hands down no issue...only 469 gets close to that status
  609. May 02 20:11:14 <xncheckmate>   yeah
  610. May 02 20:11:29 <rahul469>      I mean, I've only been in FRC since 2010 and I remember my jaw dropping watching their matches.
  611. May 02 20:11:56 <david2485>     Cool
  612. May 02 20:12:00 <rahul469>      That would be awesome
  613. May 02 20:12:07 <david2485>     Yeah 71 2002 was literally impossible to beat
  614. May 02 20:12:09 <david2485>     Literally
  615. May 02 20:12:14 <rahul469>      Hey, they lost IRI :P
  616. May 02 20:12:15 <anupamgoli>    2009 would be 67 or 1717
  617. May 02 20:12:23 <hallry1676>    Funny Rahul, I remember my jaw dropping in 2010 watching YOUR matches =P
  618. May 02 20:12:26 <anupamgoli>    2010 is a tie between 67 and 469
  619. May 02 20:12:40 <rahul469>      Heh, my freshmen year of high school. xD
  620. May 02 20:12:45 <xncheckmate>   What was the best robot of 2012?
  621. May 02 20:12:50 <xncheckmate>   I would say 1717, but
  622. May 02 20:12:53 <xncheckmate>   i dunno
  623. May 02 20:12:54 <gregor_browning>       Hey, he was only a freshman programmer
  624. May 02 20:12:56 <hallry1676>    I hated a loved your robot, Rahul.
  625. May 02 20:13:02 <gregor_browning>       ;)
  626. May 02 20:13:02 <hallry1676>    *and
  627. May 02 20:13:03 <anupamgoli>    2012. I don't think there was a dominant robot
  628. May 02 20:13:03 <avanboekel11>  Alec is butthurt that 496 got a mention but  his old  team didnt lol
  629. May 02 20:13:07 <anupamgoli>    maybe 2056
  630. May 02 20:13:10 <qwoptillyoudrop>       the walking robot?
  631. May 02 20:13:15 <stevekaneb>    1717 for balls, 341 for combined (2k12)
  632. May 02 20:13:18 <hallry1676>    Only hated because you and 1114 beat us and 1986 in Curie Finals ;)
  633. May 02 20:13:22 <david2485>     That was a BADASS robot
  634. May 02 20:13:25 <rahul469>      Oh yeah, I'll shoot you guys an email if you need more information.
  635. May 02 20:13:37 <anupamgoli>    I wanna be the very best
  636. May 02 20:13:42 <anupamgoli>    like no one ever was
  637. May 02 20:13:50 <anupamgoli>    To assist them is my real test. To score them is my cause
  638. May 02 20:13:59 <frcgamesense>  That would be great Rahul
  639. May 02 20:14:06 <david2485>     Mokepon!
  640. May 02 20:14:09 <mman1506>      Why would you want to re play 2014 again gregor?
  641. May 02 20:14:11 <frankmerrick7> 469 was probably the most inspected robot of all time.  They were completely legal.
  642. May 02 20:14:14 <anupamgoli>    FIRST -e -mon
  643. May 02 20:14:17 <robodude03>    lol
  644. May 02 20:14:20 <xncheckmate>   "Jealousy is a common plague of the Robonauts" - quoted from Youtube
  645. May 02 20:14:42 <francis190>    I have travel'd a-cross the field, trussing far and wide
  646. May 02 20:14:54 <francis190>    To catch balls is our real test, to score them is my priiiiiiiide
  647. May 02 20:14:59 <frcgamesense>  lulz
  648. May 02 20:15:09 <devenstonow>   ohhhh i remember that thing
  649. May 02 20:15:11 <devenstonow>   it was awesome
  650. May 02 20:15:14 <devenstonow>   2011 skunkworks
  651. May 02 20:15:18 <anupamgoli>    These robots. to understand. The voltage that's inside
  652. May 02 20:15:52 <stevekaneb>    I direct you all to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaCU
  653. May 02 20:16:02 <anupamgoli>    This is why Dave isn't an inspector
  654. May 02 20:16:09 <anupamgoli>    this is #whywedontwinworlds
  655. May 02 20:16:43 <rahul469>      #shotsfired
  656. May 02 20:16:50 <gregor_browning>       #shotsfired
  657. May 02 20:16:55 <david2485>     Shots across the starboard bow!
  658. May 02 20:16:56 <devenstonow>   Hey, they were NOT second place
  659. May 02 20:16:59 <devenstonow>   Team Scooby was second :D
  660. May 02 20:17:11 <xncheckmate>   ouch
  661. May 02 20:17:11 <frankmerrick7> Is it possible for a single robot to be so dominant, though, that rather than inspire other teams, they discourage teams they are competing with?
  662. May 02 20:17:20 <xncheckmate>   Definitely
  663. May 02 20:17:25 <anupamgoli>    Whatever. We may not have blue banners, but we have Fantasy FIRST trophies
  664. May 02 20:17:28 <stevekaneb>    depends on the game
  665. May 02 20:17:38 <spectrum3847>  nope, always try to get better
  666. May 02 20:17:41 <stevekaneb>    2k8 definitely, where you couldn't let worse robots touch the ball
  667. May 02 20:17:50 <stevekaneb>    if you were dominant enough
  668. May 02 20:17:54 <anupamgoli>    469 2010 too
  669. May 02 20:18:03 <xncheckmate>   It happens all the time, I hear people complaining about the top teams at regionals all the time, especially regionals where the same teams win over and over again
  670. May 02 20:18:48 <1983navidshafa>        I'd love to hear Frank's favorite bot to work on and favorite robot of all time
  671. May 02 20:18:51 <david2485>     The games are better-designs.
  672. May 02 20:18:52 <1983navidshafa>        If you are ok with it
  673. May 02 20:18:53 <david2485>     designed*
  674. May 02 20:18:56 <robodude03>    60 was dominant back then too
  675. May 02 20:18:57 <avanboekel11>  118's bots always look so amazing, and almost not achievable. 254 always performs amazingly, and their robots look buildable. They are so simple, and at the same time, they are always effective
  676. May 02 20:18:59 <hallry1676>    You definitely need to do a video of 148 in 2008 ;)
  677. May 02 20:19:01 <anupamgoli>    2415 brought 3 robots to the state scrimmage in 2011. Most teams barely had one. 2415 drove all 3 on the field and scored the entire rack in 2 minutes on each.
  678. May 02 20:19:10 <anupamgoli>    you should've heard the hate they got
  679. May 02 20:19:18 <robodude03>    it was just great to see 2 dominant teams go head to head
  680. May 02 20:19:23 <spectrum3847>  it wasn't 71 faults, it was the game designs fault, I wasn't there either, hearing Karthik talk about that robot is still inspiring I think it is in one of his strategy talks on choke hold strategies.
  681. May 02 20:19:58 <gregor_browning>       Even if your robot is so good that you discourage other people, that's still not your problem.
  682. May 02 20:20:17 <anupamgoli>    I feel like FIRST needs to have its own culture change
  683. May 02 20:20:38 <robodude03>    The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
  684. May 02 20:20:38 <xncheckmate>   Right, I'm not gonna make my robot worse to reduce hate. It's up to them to have the drive to get better
  685. May 02 20:20:40 <spencer_tickman>       Being too good is the kind of problem i want
  686. May 02 20:20:48 <anupamgoli>    At events where there are regional powerhouses, often times those teams get a lot of hate
  687. May 02 20:20:49 <geeksquad94>   I would say the only way it could be discouraging is if it broke the game, and you could literally say "there is no way i can beat them". If its possible to beat them, its inspiring
  688. May 02 20:21:24 <david2485>     71 was basically impossible to beat
  689. May 02 20:21:33 <hallry1676>    until they were beaten.
  690. May 02 20:21:44 <rahul469>      On a questionable red card. :P
  691. May 02 20:21:51 <spectrum3847>  Karthik talking about team 71 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apk_X-maRf8#t=1134
  692. May 02 20:21:51 <robodude03>    look at 125, look at 968
  693. May 02 20:21:59 <robodude03>    they were definitely inspired
  694. May 02 20:22:04 <anupamgoli>    I had 254's 2013 robot reveal picture as my wallpaper for the longest time
  695. May 02 20:22:13 <xncheckmate>   ^
  696. May 02 20:22:14 <robodude03>    look at 1538
  697. May 02 20:22:25 <robodude03>    all those teams have a 254 influence
  698. May 02 20:22:36 <spencer_tickman>       1983 in PNW is the same way. I may be biased, but there is a definite change in their perception this year
  699. May 02 20:22:54 <1983navidshafa>        @Spencer, it's fun not to be hated for being good
  700. May 02 20:22:55 <gregor_browning>       Wildcards were the best thing to happen to Ontario in a long time.  
  701. May 02 20:23:02 <anupamgoli>    I wish we would abandon the regional model
  702. May 02 20:23:04 <mman1506>      yup
  703. May 02 20:23:14 <anupamgoli>    go to a standardized points based system
  704. May 02 20:23:24 <hallry1676>    Frank, any new district systems coming in 2015?
  705. May 02 20:23:29 <anupamgoli>    based on robot performance and points scored and thinks like that
  706. May 02 20:23:32 <david2485>     If you find a break in the game, and it will make you win, you design it.
  707. May 02 20:23:39 <david2485>     That's just good strategy.
  708. May 02 20:23:47 <thebrowniee>   Navid, what you said its close in the feels
  709. May 02 20:23:51 <anupamgoli>    2011 first minibot
  710. May 02 20:23:52 <thebrowniee>   hits*
  711. May 02 20:23:56 <1983navidshafa>        Thanks buddy
  712. May 02 20:24:06 <anupamgoli>    CENSOR YOURSELF
  713. May 02 20:24:09 <devenstonow>   =O swearing
  714. May 02 20:24:10 <thebrowniee>   <3 wildcard
  715. May 02 20:24:12 <1983navidshafa>        I know you all love 1114 and 2056 and want to be them and want to beat them, but we can't hate excellence
  716. May 02 20:24:15 <devenstonow>   #BoycottGameSense
  717. May 02 20:24:21 <frcgamesense>  :(
  718. May 02 20:24:28 <1983navidshafa>        Gotta love those guys, but we all want to be recognized for doing well
  719. May 02 20:24:33 <1983navidshafa>        <3 Districts <3 Wildcards
  720. May 02 20:24:38 <david2485>     Ok that's not cool.
  721. May 02 20:24:38 <gregor_browning>       What about 111 2003
  722. May 02 20:24:44 <anupamgoli>    dat swerve
  723. May 02 20:24:48 <stevekaneb>    everybody made flippers in 97, for reference
  724. May 02 20:24:49 <gregor_browning>       Get on the ramp and destroy everyone
  725. May 02 20:24:52 <robodude03>    COTS also helps out the level
  726. May 02 20:24:53 <frankmerrick7> @Navid, I honestly don't have one that stands out in my mind - with the possible exception of 469 in 2010, but even they lost on Einstein.  Every regional I go to I see some robots that are awesome.  I'm not trying to be cagey, I just have a hard time remembering these kinds of details.  
  727. May 02 20:24:54 <thebrowniee>   definitely, teaching the kids that is big
  728. May 02 20:24:58 <stevekaneb>    not everybody everybody, but it was common
  729. May 02 20:25:03 <anupamgoli>    just hanging out
  730. May 02 20:25:05 <spectrum3847>  111 in 03 = best auton robot I have ever seen, stangsense was amazing
  731. May 02 20:25:20 <frankmerrick7> It's the corn dogs, for sure
  732. May 02 20:25:22 <rahul469>      That reveal video?
  733. May 02 20:25:23 <spectrum3847>  encore
  734. May 02 20:25:24 <spencer_tickman>       BEST VIDEO EVER
  735. May 02 20:25:25 <david2485>     Hat?
  736. May 02 20:25:27 <david2485>     Hat hat hat?
  737. May 02 20:25:33 <geeksquad94>   That video is the BEST
  738. May 02 20:25:33 <anupamgoli>    My favorite reveal video ever is 118 in 2012
  739. May 02 20:25:33 <electronica1_> 469 in 2010 was hard to beat, but they were still beatable, you just had to have the right tactic
  740. May 02 20:25:38 <xncheckmate>   66 just on twitch, maybe more on YT
  741. May 02 20:25:38 <david2485>     Hathathathathat?
  742. May 02 20:25:40 <david2485>     Hathathat.
  743. May 02 20:25:40 <geeksquad94>   gets so many people through build seasons
  744. May 02 20:25:42 <spectrum3847>  StangPS
  745. May 02 20:25:42 <david2485>     I got my hat.
  746. May 02 20:25:46 <david2485>     I feel better now.
  747. May 02 20:25:51 <spectrum3847>  don't sure how I merged those together
  748. May 02 20:25:51 <hallry1676>    The hat delivers us.
  749. May 02 20:25:52 <frcgamesense>  We actually took youtube down, Ty runs that and had to go.
  750. May 02 20:26:02 <anupamgoli>    The 2015 kitbot should include a HAT
  751. May 02 20:26:05 <anupamgoli>    make all teams feel better
  752. May 02 20:26:07 <robotjunky>    but do you think it is discouraging if you are from michigan and you have a good robot but just dont make the cut for worlds but if you go to a regional that doesnt have as much depth you be one of the best robots there?
  753. May 02 20:26:09 <david2485>     indeed
  754. May 02 20:26:10 <spectrum3847>  custom motoral board to talk to a BasicStamp
  755. May 02 20:26:19 <spectrum3847>  and encoders
  756. May 02 20:26:20 <spectrum3847>  mostly
  757. May 02 20:26:22 <david2485>     Btw
  758. May 02 20:26:29 <david2485>     One question
  759. May 02 20:26:31 <spectrum3847>  they could plot a course pre match and put it on the robot
  760. May 02 20:26:39 <spectrum3847>  most teams can't do that now
  761. May 02 20:26:41 <1983navidshafa>        @David Shoot buddy
  762. May 02 20:26:44 <anupamgoli>    That's amazing
  763. May 02 20:26:45 <robodude03>    PBASIC!
  764. May 02 20:26:49 <anupamgoli>    PBASIC
  765. May 02 20:26:49 <david2485>     I came late so you might have talked about it, tell me if you did, but the West Coast was *stacked* this year.
  766. May 02 20:26:50 <anupamgoli>    WOO
  767. May 02 20:26:51 <spectrum3847>  PBASIC that's where I got my start
  768. May 02 20:26:57 <geeksquad94>   didnt that brain not have trig?
  769. May 02 20:26:59 <robodude03>    ha I remember coding in that
  770. May 02 20:27:18 <francis190>    no trig
  771. May 02 20:27:18 <stevekaneb>    oh man, Francis is going to be saying "Y'all ever heard of that? NO!" all year
  772. May 02 20:27:21 <anupamgoli>    COME TO THE SOUTHEAST USA
  773. May 02 20:27:25 <david2485>     254, 1678, 399, 2485...
  774. May 02 20:27:25 <anupamgoli>    WORST ROBOT AT MSC WOULD WIN
  775. May 02 20:27:31 <david2485>     Period
  776. May 02 20:27:36 <spectrum3847>  StangPS overview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfDDq_4Hz6I
  777. May 02 20:27:37 <david2485>     Easily
  778. May 02 20:27:38 <avanboekel11>  this is the 111 vid by the way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MgdGtwQQIo
  779. May 02 20:27:44 <spencer_tickman>       s/nah that super bowl was tough
  780. May 02 20:27:45 <quicksilverblitz>      #ninergang
  781. May 02 20:27:48 <frankmerrick7> New language for 2015 - exclusive news just for GameSense - FORTRAN. Oh, yeah.
  782. May 02 20:27:54 <najay11>       Being from Michigan, its not. Why? Michigan State Championship. Its is so inspiring and such a great event for every team. Its a mini champs where every match is good.
  783. May 02 20:28:01 <anupamgoli>    can we code in ARM assembly?
  784. May 02 20:28:10 <anupamgoli>    or VHDL?
  785. May 02 20:28:14 <quicksilverblitz>      3/4 top seeds at champs were cali teams this year right?
  786. May 02 20:28:24 <robodude03>    LOL
  787. May 02 20:28:25 <david2485>     Hahahahahaha
  788. May 02 20:28:27 <robotjunky>    thank you
  789. May 02 20:28:40 <david2485>     Yeah quicksilverblitz
  790. May 02 20:28:54 <david2485>     And top score of the year had a CA team
  791. May 02 20:29:07 <david2485>     3476 was better than their record this year, too
  792. May 02 20:29:08 <spencer_tickman>       I would argue that 1983 was a better robot than 4488
  793. May 02 20:29:10 <spectrum3847>  iterate and improve, every day
  794. May 02 20:29:20 <1983navidshafa>        @Spencer Thank you, but no
  795. May 02 20:29:24 <1983navidshafa>        Roll Shockwave!
  796. May 02 20:29:29 <quicksilverblitz>      When is CA going to districts anyway? I've been hearing within 1-2 years for probably the last 3 years
  797. May 02 20:29:38 <david2485>     Doubt it's next year
  798. May 02 20:29:45 <david2485>     Probably 2+
  799. May 02 20:29:54 <david2485>     But eventually I'd bet
  800. May 02 20:29:55 <geeksquad94>   districts helped so much here in the PNW. it allowed us to go to worlds even without winning the big event.
  801. May 02 20:30:05 <geeksquad94>   and yeah Roll Sockwave :D
  802. May 02 20:30:07 <xncheckmate>   Yup exactly how I feel
  803. May 02 20:30:13 <david2485>     I just don't want it to happen because then we couldn't play with 987 again.... lol
  804. May 02 20:30:46 <rahul469>      Isn't Cali overcrowded right now in terms of event spots?
  805. May 02 20:30:49 <geeksquad94>   that story was insane
  806. May 02 20:30:50 <anupamgoli>    Meanwhile down south we still have to use the outdated regional model and only send the 3 best robots per regional
  807. May 02 20:30:51 <spencer_tickman>       Having played with both teams 4488 is severly limited by thier inability to eject a ball without shooting. Ball controll is everything this year. Also shockwave scouting(along with every other team in the PNW) does not approach skunks
  808. May 02 20:31:06 <xncheckmate>   ^Anupam agreed
  809. May 02 20:31:32 <nuttyman54>    Spencer, their robot was far more reliable than ours. they had a 2-ball hot and 3-ball auto to boot
  810. May 02 20:31:32 <quicksilverblitz>      @anupam, that last pick is effectively never actually the 3rd best bot
  811. May 02 20:31:52 <anupamgoli>    yea
  812. May 02 20:32:38 <geeksquad94>   and umatilla is is not a big city
  813. May 02 20:32:59 <anupamgoli>    so
  814. May 02 20:33:05 <anupamgoli>    can anyone explain Minnessotta's growth?
  815. May 02 20:33:05 <alienbacteria> 4125 is amazing
  816. May 02 20:33:10 <anupamgoli>    what's the story behind that
  817. May 02 20:33:14 <anupamgoli>    it kinda exploded randomly
  818. May 02 20:33:21 <frankmerrick7> MI had 8.5% of the teams at CMP, but made up 21.9% of all teams in the final rounds at Divisions.  No way to deny the dominance there.  (Yes, I went to the tenths on the percentages)
  819. May 02 20:33:25 <francis190>    hmm interesteing, ill aks evan after he talks abotu 971
  820. May 02 20:33:30 <rahul469>      Indiana is great but I miss FiM quite a bit.
  821. May 02 20:33:43 <1983navidshafa>        I love 4125 and I love PNW first <3
  822. May 02 20:33:54 <1983navidshafa>        All of you guys, you make us continue to want to do more!
  823. May 02 20:34:01 <alienbacteria> another personal favorite:  4481
  824. May 02 20:34:08 <robodude03>    254 had that hate for many years
  825. May 02 20:34:18 <anupamgoli>    That attitude is still pervasive all across the country
  826. May 02 20:34:20 <anupamgoli>    it's sad
  827. May 02 20:34:46 <robodude03>    ^
  828. May 02 20:35:37 <robodude03>    399 is a house team and has also taken it upon themselves to grow a strong program as well
  829. May 02 20:35:42 <mman1506>      you should see Ontario with 1114 and 2056
  830. May 02 20:35:49 <xncheckmate>   same here
  831. May 02 20:35:50 <mman1506>      so many misconceptions
  832. May 02 20:35:51 <robotjunky>    i liked when 254 came out at einstein of the new auton shocked the world
  833. May 02 20:36:24 <rahul469>      Quote I always remembered, I think it was Paul Copioli?: The secret to being a powerhouse team is to outwork the schedule.
  834. May 02 20:36:28 <spectrum3847>  people meet less then that?
  835. May 02 20:36:35 <robodude03>    ^
  836. May 02 20:36:39 <anupamgoli>    we only meet 6 days a week...
  837. May 02 20:36:43 <alexkstout>    EVAN your story about the Poofs is EXACTLY the same about our team and 1114.
  838. May 02 20:36:44 <xncheckmate>   we've gone from winning the spirit and imagery award, never making elims for several years, to our most successful year to date in 2014
  839. May 02 20:36:55 <xncheckmate>   we used to build out of a garage till 2012
  840. May 02 20:36:59 <david2485>     Xncheckmate, same here
  841. May 02 20:37:08 <robodude03>    many stories like that, 399, 968, 973, 1538
  842. May 02 20:37:17 <spectrum3847>  I was joking
  843. May 02 20:37:37 <spectrum3847>  We are crazy and meet 45 days straight
  844. May 02 20:37:39 <geeksquad94>   4488 meets 6 days a week, but only for about 2 hours each weekday
  845. May 02 20:37:45 <xncheckmate>   well, we still win the imagery award, but my point is hard work and an eagerness to get better, tob e the best, pays off.
  846. May 02 20:38:02 <xncheckmate>   we meet 7 days a week, but sundays are usually only 2 hours or so
  847. May 02 20:38:19 <frankmerrick7> I'm disappointed of any teams meet less than 8 days per week.
  848. May 02 20:38:20 <anupamgoli>    Minnesota had some serious freaking growth
  849. May 02 20:38:33 <rahul469>      Renee Becker and her fiancee
  850. May 02 20:38:36 <anupamgoli>    @Frank, not all of us have time travel machines and now the game in advance
  851. May 02 20:38:40 <anupamgoli>    know*
  852. May 02 20:38:45 <frankmerrick7> I'm joking, of course.
  853. May 02 20:39:02 <david2485>     Include time machines in the KOP next year
  854. May 02 20:39:07 <geeksquad94>   Man, frank loves his beattles.
  855. May 02 20:39:19 <markus5578>    Can you guys give some tips on Second year team funding?
  856. May 02 20:39:23 <alexkstout>    2614 meets 3 days a week, but on Saturday, it is usually past 2am
  857. May 02 20:39:37 <alexkstout>    This is why we do the 24 hour off-season :P
  858. May 02 20:39:43 <frcgamesense>  ahsrobotics.us
  859. May 02 20:39:50 <xncheckmate>   Fridays and Saturdays usually go till 4 am ish
  860. May 02 20:39:57 <robotjunky>    start early!! like now
  861. May 02 20:40:11 <david2485>     Cool!
  862. May 02 20:40:14 <xncheckmate>   Then back at it at 10 am!!111!1!
  863. May 02 20:40:18 <markus5578>    Could you repeat the link again please?
  864. May 02 20:40:21 <anupamgoli>    Reach out to parents!
  865. May 02 20:40:28 <alienbacteria> ahsrobotics.us
  866. May 02 20:40:28 <francis190>    ahsrobotics.us
  867. May 02 20:40:29 <frcgamesense>  ahsrobotics.us
  868. May 02 20:40:34 <frcgamesense>  lulz
  869. May 02 20:40:35 <robodude03>    yes
  870. May 02 20:40:38 <alienbacteria> I win
  871. May 02 20:40:38 <metonyms>      WAIT THIS IS STILL GOING ON?
  872. May 02 20:40:39 <frcgamesense>  ahsrobotics.us
  873. May 02 20:40:40 <david2485>     ahsrobotics.us
  874. May 02 20:40:48 <anupamgoli>    FIRST goes on 24/7/365
  875. May 02 20:40:56 <frankmerrick7> What would you think if stop build day was eliminated?  Work until competition.  This is a theoretical question.
  876. May 02 20:40:58 <nuttyman54>    Nikki, it's the aftershow
  877. May 02 20:40:58 <david2485>     Ll
  878. May 02 20:41:00 <david2485>     Lol
  879. May 02 20:41:04 <spectrum3847>  yep, we met 5 days this week and have an event tomorrow
  880. May 02 20:41:04 <robodude03>    whoa
  881. May 02 20:41:08 <alienbacteria> what are we all waiting for anyways
  882. May 02 20:41:11 <anupamgoli>    No more practice robots needed
  883. May 02 20:41:18 <metonyms>      AFTERSHOW? NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT THIS!
  884. May 02 20:41:18 <anupamgoli>    but
  885. May 02 20:41:21 <robodude03>    @Frank would save money from building a 2nd bot
  886. May 02 20:41:24 <anupamgoli>    mentor and student burnout becomes a serious issue
  887. May 02 20:41:25 <francis190>    it was suprise
  888. May 02 20:41:27 <metonyms>      can we have events every day?
  889. May 02 20:41:42 <geeksquad94>   I like having bag day
  890. May 02 20:41:43 <spectrum3847>  GET RID OF STOP BUILD DAY, PLEASE
  891. May 02 20:41:47 <geeksquad94>   it sets  a deadline
  892. May 02 20:41:55 <xncheckmate>   Mixed feelings
  893. May 02 20:42:00 <hallry1676>    Keep it.
  894. May 02 20:42:06 <alexkstout>    It's a challenge. Why lower the bar?
  895. May 02 20:42:09 <alecmataloni>  mixed feelings for sure.
  896. May 02 20:42:16 <metonyms>      irs1318.com
  897. May 02 20:42:18 <david2485>     ahsrobotics.us
  898. May 02 20:42:21 <anupamgoli>    We spend $3000 on a competition bot, an additional $3k on practice robot stuff, even more on backup parts
  899. May 02 20:42:22 <rahul469>      At least on 469, we don't really stop working. They just keep working on practice bot and replicate all the changes during open bag time and/or Thursday of competition.
  900. May 02 20:42:22 <devenstonow>   It would be easier without it in many many many ways and be better fr FRC in many many ways, but its also very nice having a deadline
  901. May 02 20:42:23 <david2485>     robotics.francisparker.org
  902. May 02 20:42:26 <spectrum3847>  We already have a 16 week build season anyway
  903. May 02 20:42:29 <hallry1676>    Stop Build Day is one of the core aspects in FIRST.
  904. May 02 20:42:32 <anupamgoli>    our build season costs no less than $10k for robots alone
  905. May 02 20:42:33 <spectrum3847>  having to bag the robot is silly
  906. May 02 20:42:52 <david2485>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhKVych80ME
  907. May 02 20:43:01 <frankmerrick7> Wow, lots of response to this.
  908. May 02 20:43:03 <markus5578>    hah
  909. May 02 20:43:04 <mman1506>      get rid of it most teams never stop working.
  910. May 02 20:43:13 <devenstonow>   i feel like 6 hour window alleviates much of the issues with stop build day
  911. May 02 20:43:19 <francis190>    it is the most talked about topic no one talks about
  912. May 02 20:43:26 <xncheckmate>   How would that work for multiple competitions? Does this imply you can keep your robot between competitions, or is it just bag at first competition?
  913. May 02 20:43:33 <devenstonow>   on 125 we didn't build a practice robot because we had 4 events with 4 six hour unbags
  914. May 02 20:43:35 <anupamgoli>    We build two robots, stop build day and beyond, we keep building on our second robot, and then we have to build a second set of parts for our competition bot when all of the designs and parts are finalized, and build more backups for withholding since we can't pull off the practice bot anymore
  915. May 02 20:43:52 <xncheckmate>   I know 610 doesn't build a practice bot
  916. May 02 20:43:56 <metonyms>      Building a practice bot and a competition bot is usually a great idea
  917. May 02 20:43:59 <devenstonow>   Here's an interesting fund drive that gives an okay amount of money: scrap metal drive
  918. May 02 20:44:00 <alexkstout>    ^and that's how you overcome the challenge
  919. May 02 20:44:09 <robodude03>    http://team1538.com/cowtips-pdfs/sponsorship.pdf
  920. May 02 20:44:14 <david2485>     DEFINITELY why we did so much better this year than any year previous.
  921. May 02 20:44:16 <robotjunky>    if you dont stop build wouldnt everyone go for the last weeks of competition?
  922. May 02 20:44:24 <anupamgoli>    @Robot no
  923. May 02 20:44:25 <xncheckmate>   ^
  924. May 02 20:44:25 <robodude03>    359!!!!
  925. May 02 20:44:26 <david2485>     BUILD A PRACTICE BOT.
  926. May 02 20:44:29 <geeksquad94>   Even without a bag day we would most likely continue building 2 robots, because we do use the 1st robot as a practice bot.
  927. May 02 20:44:33 <robodude03>    millions!
  928. May 02 20:44:36 <mman1506>      Instead of spending money on a practice bot we could spend it on resources
  929. May 02 20:44:41 <metonyms>      possibly billions
  930. May 02 20:44:43 <robodude03>    Glenn is awesome!
  931. May 02 20:44:45 <anupamgoli>    regional locations are often the biggest determinants of where a team competed
  932. May 02 20:44:47 <anupamgoli>    competes*
  933. May 02 20:44:49 <frankmerrick7> I love spaghetti.  With meatballs.  Actually, forget the pasta, just give me the meatballs.    
  934. May 02 20:44:56 <spectrum3847>  haha
  935. May 02 20:45:07 <gregor_browning>       I love how Stephanie is talking about spaghetti, and we're all debating bag day.
  936. May 02 20:45:11 <spencer_tickman>       mmmm meat balls
  937. May 02 20:45:12 <robodude03>    http://team1538.com/?page_id=468
  938. May 02 20:45:12 <markus5578>    Thanks so much guys!
  939. May 02 20:45:16 <markus5578>    I really appreciate it!
  940. May 02 20:45:19 <anupamgoli>    Our team can only go up to 7 hours away on the road
  941. May 02 20:45:29 <anupamgoli>    so we have a very limited subset of regionals we can attend for our second event
  942. May 02 20:45:34 <rahul469>      Next year is gonna be interesting. Second year team with both of the lead mentors being sophomores in college.
  943. May 02 20:45:37 <anupamgoli>    and our first event is 1 mile from our school
  944. May 02 20:46:05 <avanboekel11>  please do this. please please please
  945. May 02 20:46:07 <robodude03>    2nd bot
  946. May 02 20:46:14 <metonyms>      oh *** Gregor is here too?
  947. May 02 20:46:22 <metonyms>      god so many people I recognize
  948. May 02 20:46:25 <alexkstout>    Our 2013 world championship business plan here http://www.marsfirst.org/?page_id=59
  949. May 02 20:46:26 <gregor_browning>       I'm everywhere
  950. May 02 20:46:36 <metonyms>      So am I, but I liek to hide
  951. May 02 20:46:41 <gregor_browning>       =p
  952. May 02 20:46:48 <spencer_tickman>       @Gregor except the pit
  953. May 02 20:46:51 <david2485>     What's the 2015 game?
  954. May 02 20:46:55 <metonyms>      SO TRUE
  955. May 02 20:46:55 <rahul469>      Wait, who's Metonyms?
  956. May 02 20:46:58 <markus5578>    Thanks alex
  957. May 02 20:46:59 <robotjunky>    thank you
  958. May 02 20:47:03 <markus5578>    Thanks so mcuh
  959. May 02 20:47:11 <anupamgoli>    I don't want to spend $5k+ on practice robots, parts, and spares and even more time and resources that could be put somewhere else
  960. May 02 20:47:15 <gregor_browning>       Right, other than my pit.  Even though I swear I was there every minute of the day.
  961. May 02 20:47:17 <metonyms>      Nikki Narayana, you might have seen me with my big steadicam rig at Worlds
  962. May 02 20:47:28 <gregor_browning>       Rahul Nikki from 1318.  
  963. May 02 20:47:30 <frankmerrick7> Bring it on
  964. May 02 20:47:38 <markus5578>    Metonyms is that the big pole with the camera at the end?
  965. May 02 20:47:39 <robodude03>    yes
  966. May 02 20:47:40 <geeksquad94>   Goodbye build
  967. May 02 20:47:47 <anupamgoli>    woo ship day
  968. May 02 20:47:49 <metonyms>      or as Spencer will inevitably say "Nikki 'Everything is better with a steadicam' Narayana"
  969. May 02 20:47:51 <spectrum3847>  I want to only have to tune one robot, our practice robot is way better then our real robot
  970. May 02 20:47:52 <spencer_tickman>       RI3H
  971. May 02 20:47:54 <anupamgoli>    ship day was always bittersweet for me
  972. May 02 20:47:56 <electronica1_> junkyard wars style first
  973. May 02 20:48:00 <metonyms>      Yes
  974. May 02 20:48:02 <gregor_browning>       Let me go find Jim Zondag's post on this subject
  975. May 02 20:48:11 <metonyms>      The big pole that keeps the camera steady
  976. May 02 20:48:14 <robotjunky>    lol gregor
  977. May 02 20:48:15 <xncheckmate>   lol our practice robot is like trash compared to our competition bot
  978. May 02 20:48:36 <gregor_browning>       everyone before you form your opinion on this, read these two posts.http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1273768&highlight=ship#post1273768
  979. May 02 20:48:38 <anupamgoli>    In 2011, they had a break between week 4 and 5 i think
  980. May 02 20:48:43 <xncheckmate>   I think our practice bot's max speed is 8 ft/s, and competition bot max speed is 16 ft/s
  981. May 02 20:49:09 <spectrum3847>  only international / hawaii teams that have to ship, get less time
  982. May 02 20:49:17 <rahul469>      Skyrise is out
  983. May 02 20:49:26 <1983navidshafa>        Skyrise is cool
  984. May 02 20:49:27 <alexkstout>    I think the link is broken to the business plan. I will work on that. Email me at alexkstout@gmail.com and I will email it to you.
  985. May 02 20:49:29 <spectrum3847>  but we should still get rid of it
  986. May 02 20:49:44 <metonyms>      Skyrise seems fun, but of course being in FRC makes it also seem a bit small
  987. May 02 20:50:08 <francis190>    #destinynewhost
  988. May 02 20:50:19 <anupamgoli>    From kickoff until my team has no more regionals, I don't even have time to play counter strike
  989. May 02 20:50:25 <frankmerrick7> Oh, is that a sequel to Skyrim?  I just got distracted. SQUIRREL!
  990. May 02 20:50:25 <anupamgoli>    it's either school or FIRST
  991. May 02 20:50:40 <gregor_browning>       to tl;dr Jim Zondag, bag doesn't really stop the great teams from being great, but it punishes the struggling teams.  
  992. May 02 20:50:54 <robodude03>    lol
  993. May 02 20:50:54 <wdoherty>      Bag day still introduces a hard deadline though, which makes teams commit to their choices from the beginning.
  994. May 02 20:51:10 <david2485>     There are people who don't play Skyrim?
  995. May 02 20:51:17 <spencer_tickman>       But then we cant lie to ourselves about it only being six weeks
  996. May 02 20:51:19 <gregor_browning>       Their first (or last) competition is still a hard deadline.  
  997. May 02 20:51:25 <frankmerrick7> Yes, sorry, I did play a little Skyrim.
  998. May 02 20:51:31 <anupamgoli>    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)Le Frank is master trolle( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
  999. May 02 20:51:33 <1983navidshafa>        Youdabest
  1000. May 02 20:51:53 <gregor_browning>       I didn't know people are allowed to listen to the Beatles AND play Skyrim.  
  1001. May 02 20:51:55 <markus5578>    Thanks alex
  1002. May 02 20:52:01 <david2485>     Me
  1003. May 02 20:52:03 <david2485>     Come on noqw
  1004. May 02 20:52:05 <david2485>     now*
  1005. May 02 20:52:22 <metonyms>      Skyrim was fun for the first 500 hours and then just got boring
  1006. May 02 20:52:37 <anupamgoli>    mean while i have 865+hours in counter-strike
  1007. May 02 20:52:39 <markus5578>    k alex sent u one
  1008. May 02 20:52:41 <markus5578>    thanks again
  1009. May 02 20:52:51 <spectrum3847>  can that happen now though, we see it in VEX but  it's normally the team that builds it first that tunes it best and ends up with the best robot
  1010. May 02 20:53:24 <spectrum3847>  Can't teams choose to build less time over that 15 weeks
  1011. May 02 20:53:28 <spectrum3847>  meet less often
  1012. May 02 20:53:33 <anupamgoli>    move every regional to week 1. screw everyone.
  1013. May 02 20:53:33 <mman1506>      warp7+hours?
  1014. May 02 20:53:40 <spectrum3847>  I might actually take a day off it wasn't for the 6 week time frame
  1015. May 02 20:53:40 <avanboekel11>  Teams can stop after 6 weeks if they get tired of it then
  1016. May 02 20:53:48 <frankmerrick7> I saw a review that concluded 'Skyrim:  Undeniably better than real life"
  1017. May 02 20:53:54 <david2485>     Clearly
  1018. May 02 20:53:57 <spectrum3847>  I also hate secrecy
  1019. May 02 20:54:07 <david2485>     I agree
  1020. May 02 20:54:09 <david2485>     That's a good point
  1021. May 02 20:54:14 <metonyms>      Until you realize the graphics are about as complex as a potato
  1022. May 02 20:54:24 <anupamgoli>    mods are whre its at
  1023. May 02 20:54:29 <metonyms>      and then you find the mods and everything is better
  1024. May 02 20:54:33 <spectrum3847>  open build seasons
  1025. May 02 20:54:34 <metonyms>      damn you beat me by a sec
  1026. May 02 20:54:38 <avanboekel11>  Do you think it would raise the level of play for the lower tier of teams?
  1027. May 02 20:54:45 <frankmerrick7> My computer is running a 486 processor
  1028. May 02 20:54:49 <spectrum3847>  I like to see the process
  1029. May 02 20:54:51 <anupamgoli>    +1 Frank
  1030. May 02 20:55:02 <xncheckmate>   My toaster is barely capable of playing this stream
  1031. May 02 20:55:02 <david2485>     But someone could release their video right before their first event
  1032. May 02 20:55:03 <geeksquad94>   personally, I dont like the secrecy either
  1033. May 02 20:55:21 <gregor_browning>       Allen's resources and sharing of designs revolutionize FRC.  2013 shooters and 2014 el toros with wheels
  1034. May 02 20:55:23 <anupamgoli>    I share cads with other mentor friends all the time
  1035. May 02 20:55:23 <gregor_browning>       were awesome
  1036. May 02 20:55:28 <gregor_browning>       please keep sharing!
  1037. May 02 20:55:41 <frankmerrick7> OK, back to the topic.  Please no one mention the new Tomb Raider.  Which was awesome, by the way.
  1038. May 02 20:55:46 <david2485>     True...
  1039. May 02 20:55:50 <metonyms>      Tomb raider was the bomb
  1040. May 02 20:55:51 <spectrum3847>  I should not get credit for either of those, my students did those
  1041. May 02 20:55:59 <anupamgoli>    DAE Call Of Duty: Advanced Warfare?
  1042. May 02 20:56:06 <metonyms>      GTFO
  1043. May 02 20:56:12 <robodude03>    lol
  1044. May 02 20:56:12 <metonyms>      COD is too noobish
  1045. May 02 20:56:13 <spectrum3847>  Honestly I could have built it in under 45 pounds
  1046. May 02 20:56:15 <spectrum3847>  if I wanted
  1047. May 02 20:56:15 <david2485>     That would be impressive
  1048. May 02 20:56:19 <david2485>     Halo > CoD
  1049. May 02 20:56:22 <spectrum3847>  over 3 events
  1050. May 02 20:56:24 <metonyms>      true dat
  1051. May 02 20:56:26 <alecmataloni>  call of duty: house of cards season 3
  1052. May 02 20:56:30 <spencer_tickman>       I disagree. We had a very similar wooden prototype early in build season. Very few teams can pull off a reliable wheeled shooter
  1053. May 02 20:56:33 <anupamgoli>    You know, one of our students suggested a wheeled shooter. our head mechanical mentor shot it down :(
  1054. May 02 20:56:49 <david2485>     "When you're not doing robotics"
  1055. May 02 20:56:52 <metonyms>      Wait evan has a job?
  1056. May 02 20:56:55 <david2485>     That's kind of robotics.........
  1057. May 02 20:56:55 <justinmca>     we shot down our wheeled shooter prototype pretty fast as well
  1058. May 02 20:57:08 <electronica1_> has someone already asked Frank what he thinks of the robot in 3 day stuff?
  1059. May 02 20:57:16 <robotjunky>    but if you make there robot you dont get the satisfaction of i thought of that its more of im good at copying
  1060. May 02 20:57:16 <spectrum3847>  We could build it for the off-season events but normally teams don't do that. It's less fun to actually copy another robot, most teams don't choose to do it, you have to try to make it better, like the 72 hour build robots
  1061. May 02 20:57:20 <anupamgoli>    @Frank, is FIRST hiring interns?
  1062. May 02 20:57:26 <alecmataloni>  Hey frank, are you still here?
  1063. May 02 20:57:27 <xncheckmate>   I suggested it! But we were pretty heavily invested in the catapult. I think many teams had great consistent launcher designs
  1064. May 02 20:57:40 <david2485>     Our catapult ended up working great, so it's all good
  1065. May 02 20:57:41 <frankmerrick7> The 'six week build' is used as part of our marketing, to get the word out on how awesome our teams are.  'Look at what our teams do in six weeks' .  Is this an accurate representation?
  1066. May 02 20:57:48 <alecmataloni>  What do you think about Robot in 3 days/buildblitz?
  1067. May 02 20:57:54 <spectrum3847>  nope
  1068. May 02 20:58:02 <xncheckmate>   it's not just the wheeled shooter, it's everything they made turned out to be perfect for an assisting bot. 1717 had a wheeled shooter too
  1069. May 02 20:58:07 <anupamgoli>    All of the great teams take more than 6 weeks
  1070. May 02 20:58:11 <spectrum3847>  I always say we have 45 days, plus a second robot to get it right
  1071. May 02 20:58:13 <alecmataloni>  question directed at frank
  1072. May 02 20:58:27 <robodude03>    not accurate
  1073. May 02 20:58:37 <robodude03>    yes Francis exactly
  1074. May 02 20:58:57 <francis190>    cat
  1075. May 02 20:59:01 <francis190>    cat cat cat cat cat cat cat
  1076. May 02 20:59:13 <anupamgoli>    Kitty
  1077. May 02 20:59:25 <anupamgoli>    Most Georgia Teams think that's cheating
  1078. May 02 20:59:27 <frcgamesense>  Just wait until he goes and gets the puppy. <3
  1079. May 02 20:59:30 <anupamgoli>    Our team has been called out on it....
  1080. May 02 20:59:34 <pwnagenick>    what i hate is when they say in publicity that "teams build robots with only the parts they are given in a kit"
  1081. May 02 20:59:38 <gregor_browning>       Frankly, it does sound like cheating to an outsider.
  1082. May 02 20:59:42 <gregor_browning>       If you think about it.  
  1083. May 02 20:59:43 <pwnagenick>    like that statement is so far from true
  1084. May 02 20:59:47 <rahul469>      2010 was increased
  1085. May 02 20:59:52 <rahul469>      Not sure about 09, wasn't around
  1086. May 02 21:00:01 <xncheckmate>   Pwnagenick agreed
  1087. May 02 21:00:01 <anupamgoli>    09 was 30 poiudns
  1088. May 02 21:00:03 <rahul469>      Woah, nick, when did you show up?
  1089. May 02 21:00:05 <anupamgoli>    30 pounds*
  1090. May 02 21:00:10 <metonyms>      It isn't cheating, but it doesn't help new teams who can't easily build a second robot
  1091. May 02 21:00:19 <1983navidshafa>        One year went to 65 due to the big winterstorm
  1092. May 02 21:00:20 <spectrum3847>  yep, teams had a chance to copy 254, and no one did it
  1093. May 02 21:00:22 <1983navidshafa>        think it was '10
  1094. May 02 21:00:29 <anupamgoli>    So, the Lead inspector at the Peachtree regional said a team wasn't allowed to back up their manipulator and make their drivetrain as their withholding...
  1095. May 02 21:00:41 <electronica1_> 2010 was snowmageddon
  1096. May 02 21:00:46 <spectrum3847>  great story, it's in "The New Cool"
  1097. May 02 21:00:58 <anupamgoli>    I read The New Cool every night before kickoff
  1098. May 02 21:01:04 <markus5578>    :( NASA doesnt sponsor Canadian teams
  1099. May 02 21:01:06 <anupamgoli>    every kickoff eve nigh*
  1100. May 02 21:01:24 <frankmerrick7> Ri3D:  Complicated. depends on how the teams use it.  Can be a 'cheat code' to help teams skip over important steps they should do themselves.  Or, can be a great inspiration for teams to build on.
  1101. May 02 21:01:27 <xncheckmate>   ??? We took our drivetrain home for repair after Orlando because it kind of got destroyed
  1102. May 02 21:01:33 <anupamgoli>    Honestly
  1103. May 02 21:01:48 <anupamgoli>    Can FIRST include an Ri3D iteration in the kit
  1104. May 02 21:01:53 <anupamgoli>    teams have a kitbot...
  1105. May 02 21:01:56 <geeksquad94>   I love Ri3D
  1106. May 02 21:02:00 <pwnagenick>    i feel dumb
  1107. May 02 21:02:06 <anupamgoli>    why not kick it up a notch and give teams a basic game element manipulator
  1108. May 02 21:02:11 <pwnagenick>    i couldnt find my chat and for some reason its been hidden
  1109. May 02 21:02:12 <geeksquad94>   it brings up the floor. anything we can do that helps
  1110. May 02 21:02:15 <pwnagenick>    ive been watching the whole itme
  1111. May 02 21:02:17 <spectrum3847>  72 hour builds are a Great Inspiration for teams, raise the floor and have new teams push the ceiling even higher
  1112. May 02 21:02:24 <rahul469>      *slow clap*
  1113. May 02 21:02:26 <anupamgoli>    Like in 2013 give teams a basic wheeled shooter
  1114. May 02 21:02:26 <robotjunky>    are you doing a show week before iri?
  1115. May 02 21:02:36 <electronica1_> Thanks for answering Frank
  1116. May 02 21:02:40 <anupamgoli>    This year you could've given teams a basic roller intake
  1117. May 02 21:02:51 <frcgamesense>  @Robojunky yes, we are doing an IRI preview show.
  1118. May 02 21:02:51 <frankmerrick7> I just noticed Stephanie and Evan have the same last names.  Mind=blown.
  1119. May 02 21:02:56 <metonyms>      lol
  1120. May 02 21:02:57 <david2485>     OMG UR RITE
  1121. May 02 21:02:58 <pwnagenick>    bahahaha frank
  1122. May 02 21:03:02 <pwnagenick>    theyre married lol
  1123. May 02 21:03:06 <david2485>     OMFG DAS KRAZEE
  1124. May 02 21:03:06 <metonyms>      really people? really?
  1125. May 02 21:03:11 <xncheckmate>   ikr
  1126. May 02 21:03:13 <robodude03>    lol
  1127. May 02 21:03:36 <spencer_tickman>       i still don't understand why they sit in different camera shots in seemingly different rooms
  1128. May 02 21:03:43 <metonyms>      neither do I
  1129. May 02 21:03:47 <frcgamesense>  To reduce audio bleedover.
  1130. May 02 21:03:53 <frankmerrick7> Hey, congratulations!
  1131. May 02 21:03:54 <nuttyman54>    ^
  1132. May 02 21:03:57 <metonyms>      use one mic
  1133. May 02 21:04:04 <xncheckmate>   Is that a cello in Stephanie's background?
  1134. May 02 21:04:05 <pwnagenick>    Frank, why are there such big limitations on custom electronics?
  1135. May 02 21:04:06 <metonyms>      or isolated shotgun mics
  1136. May 02 21:04:09 <david2485>     Yeah
  1137. May 02 21:04:10 <gregor_browning>       I love how you have a trailer video for the flowergirl robot you built for your wedding.  
  1138. May 02 21:04:13 <frcgamesense>  Yes, that is a cello.
  1139. May 02 21:04:13 <david2485>     I've been noticing that all year
  1140. May 02 21:04:17 <xncheckmate>   cool.
  1141. May 02 21:04:18 <david2485>     Awesome!
  1142. May 02 21:04:18 <pwnagenick>    for example, why cant a team use a custom slip ring
  1143. May 02 21:04:18 <gregor_browning>       That's the most FIRST thing I've ever heard.  
  1144. May 02 21:04:20 <anupamgoli>    @Frank, your opinions on including a basic game element manipulator in the kit just like the kitbot chassis is in the kit"?
  1145. May 02 21:04:24 <metonyms>      the big sennheiser ones that cost like 1000 dollars
  1146. May 02 21:04:24 <rahul469>      Marjie and Rob Jenkins (MI FTA and MSC RD)
  1147. May 02 21:04:30 <thebrowniee>   omg that actually exists
  1148. May 02 21:04:30 <david2485>     WHOA. BATTLE AT THE BORDER PEOPLE. COME ON
  1149. May 02 21:05:27 <xncheckmate>   kekeke
  1150. May 02 21:05:48 <metonyms>      WOO DIE HARDS
  1151. May 02 21:05:50 <anupamgoli>    IM WEIRD AND PROUD OF IT
  1152. May 02 21:05:57 <frankmerrick7> Custom electronics:  very important that if the field needs the robot to stop, for safety issues, it actually stops.  Not sure about the custom slip ring.
  1153. May 02 21:05:58 <metonyms>      NEEDS MORE LAYERS!
  1154. May 02 21:05:58 <thebrowniee>   my mind is blown
  1155. May 02 21:06:02 <pwnagenick>    i liked that you guys started adding video during the show
  1156. May 02 21:06:03 <devenstonow>   Community Topics are boring most of the time
  1157. May 02 21:06:05 <david2485>     More robot- and team-specific segments
  1158. May 02 21:06:06 <rahul469>      Quality of guests! Just kidding. :P
  1159. May 02 21:06:07 <metonyms>      BETTER CAMERAS
  1160. May 02 21:06:13 <metonyms>      BIGGER MICS!
  1161. May 02 21:06:20 <spencer_tickman>       I am with nikki on this one
  1162. May 02 21:06:21 <frankmerrick7> Need more attractive hosts.
  1163. May 02 21:06:21 <david2485>     And (during season) spend more time on recaps and predictions.
  1164. May 02 21:06:27 <robodude03>    LOL
  1165. May 02 21:06:29 <pwnagenick>    yeah i was not a fan of the pentagon
  1166. May 02 21:06:30 <anupamgoli>    i thought the pentagons were cute
  1167. May 02 21:06:31 <frankmerrick7> It's a joke!
  1168. May 02 21:06:32 <spectrum3847>  better without them
  1169. May 02 21:06:33 <metonyms>      BIGGER CORN DOGS!
  1170. May 02 21:06:35 <devenstonow>   No crowd interaction=Community Topics just feel weird
  1171. May 02 21:06:36 <pwnagenick>    that was meeeee
  1172. May 02 21:06:39 <metonyms>      MORE EJ
  1173. May 02 21:06:45 <spencer_tickman>       more corndogs
  1174. May 02 21:06:47 <pwnagenick>    steph pls answer that
  1175. May 02 21:06:47 <avanboekel11>  This show is amazing, like 1000x better than another show thats on Wednesdays (not naming names or anything)
  1176. May 02 21:06:49 <pwnagenick>    or frank
  1177. May 02 21:06:50 <metonyms>      SOMEONE CALL CANON!
  1178. May 02 21:06:54 <quicksilverblitz>      more ejshuffle
  1179. May 02 21:06:54 <robodude03>    LOL LOL
  1180. May 02 21:06:55 <robotjunky>    more variety around the first community
  1181. May 02 21:06:59 <geeksquad94>   #SHOTSFIRED
  1182. May 02 21:07:04 <xncheckmate>   they're about as good as pentagonal wheels
  1183. May 02 21:07:04 <thebrowniee>   squares > pentagons
  1184. May 02 21:07:06 <electronica1_> Ok, that decides it, I WILL find Frank at an event and I WILL get him to sign my cheese head
  1185. May 02 21:07:11 <metonyms>      OH WAIT ASK KEVIN FOR SOME XA-20s!
  1186. May 02 21:07:12 <robodude03>    Website
  1187. May 02 21:07:13 <frankmerrick7> Just for the record, I'm having a blast!
  1188. May 02 21:07:17 <anupamgoli>    Can I be on the show?
  1189. May 02 21:07:18 <thebrowniee>   4 corners > 5 corners
  1190. May 02 21:07:22 <anupamgoli>    jk, i'd embarrass myself
  1191. May 02 21:07:35 <david2485>     BE MORE WILLING TO GO OVER SCHEDULE
  1192. May 02 21:07:37 <geeksquad94>   isnt it passed midnight over there, frank?
  1193. May 02 21:07:38 <frcgamesense>  Kevin did offer that we could do the show live from the field house if we wanted. :)
  1194. May 02 21:07:40 <frcgamesense>  @Metonyms better?
  1195. May 02 21:07:40 <gregor_browning>       I hope you're enjoying it.  Please come back, this is awesome!  Great for the FRC community.  
  1196. May 02 21:07:40 <david2485>     Lol
  1197. May 02 21:07:41 <frankmerrick7> Do you know it's after midnight on the east coast?  I haven't been up this late since the 80's
  1198. May 02 21:07:41 <devenstonow>   I understand that no crowd interaction is good and makes the show different, but in my eyes that means there shouldn't be ommunity topics
  1199. May 02 21:07:43 <devenstonow>   thats my POV of it
  1200. May 02 21:07:45 <metonyms>      EVERYTHING #NEEDSMORESTEADICAM
  1201. May 02 21:07:48 <spencer_tickman>       thanks
  1202. May 02 21:07:48 <david2485>     KERN DERG
  1203. May 02 21:07:49 <pwnagenick>    frank, we designed/built one, and Al looked at it and said that if it wasnt for that one specific rule he would consider it completely safe and legal
  1204. May 02 21:07:50 <geeksquad94>   yeah i agree be willing to go over time
  1205. May 02 21:07:54 <metonyms>      LOL
  1206. May 02 21:08:05 <robodude03>    Frank you are awesome, thanks for sticking around
  1207. May 02 21:08:05 <metonyms>      CORNDOG NEEDS TO BECOME SLIGHTLY BIGGER
  1208. May 02 21:08:06 <xncheckmate>   LOL
  1209. May 02 21:08:13 <metonyms>      AND WE NEED MORE CORNDOGS
  1210. May 02 21:08:32 <anupamgoli>    print a blue banner for this occasion
  1211. May 02 21:08:34 <david2485>     So like I said, more team-specific and robot-specific discussion, predictions/recaps.
  1212. May 02 21:08:41 <thebrowniee>   Can you guys administer more banhammers?
  1213. May 02 21:08:44 <devenstonow>   @David I agree
  1214. May 02 21:08:49 <clicata1730>   Man, I got here too late. What importantness have I missed?
  1215. May 02 21:08:52 <rahul469>      Honestly, more postshow would be awesome. I don't mind the less professional setting.
  1216. May 02 21:08:56 <cbmcbride>     come to ChezyChamps. there will be corndogs
  1217. May 02 21:08:57 <xncheckmate>   IRI application list looks INCREDIBLE
  1218. May 02 21:09:00 <frankmerrick7> @pwnagenick send me an email fmerrick@usfirst.org with details on the rule
  1219. May 02 21:09:01 <thebrowniee>   ive so far only got to use 1 banhammer
  1220. May 02 21:09:11 <metonyms>      CAN WE START AN FRC TEAM CALLED "TEAM A/V CREW" OR "KEVIN KREW"?
  1221. May 02 21:09:16 <frankmerrick7> And the details
  1222. May 02 21:09:35 <anupamgoli>    Navid and I will start an FRC team called the Robo techno cyber bots
  1223. May 02 21:09:39 <robodude03>    hang out chats are great
  1224. May 02 21:09:55 <francis190>    how about the brobo robos
  1225. May 02 21:10:06 <metonyms>      WE SHOULD GO OVER EVERY TIME!
  1226. May 02 21:10:17 <frankmerrick7> @clicata1730 we eliminated stop build day AND weight limits
  1227. May 02 21:10:19 <anupamgoli>    Our team will build "brobots" that deliver beer to the mentors
  1228. May 02 21:10:24 <avanboekel11>  then have an official 1 hour show, then do an after-show like this
  1229. May 02 21:10:32 <david2485>     Go ovr everteim
  1230. May 02 21:10:36 <devenstonow>   release the show in podcast form!
  1231. May 02 21:10:47 <clicata1730>   Ahh what a pleasant surprise for my senior year
  1232. May 02 21:10:47 <david2485>     Leik if u go ovr everteim
  1233. May 02 21:11:00 <xncheckmate>   i cri evertim
  1234. May 02 21:11:04 <robotjunky>    there is no more stop build and weight limit?
  1235. May 02 21:11:09 <gregor_browning>       Request, please don't do shows on Wednesdays during competition season.  That's travel day.
  1236. May 02 21:11:13 <spencer_tickman>       when do your meeting end?
  1237. May 02 21:11:18 <david2485>     W00T
  1238. May 02 21:11:19 <david2485>     NICE
  1239. May 02 21:11:24 <metonyms>      LONGER SHOWS ARE BETTER
  1240. May 02 21:11:31 <orangemoore>   @pwnagenick what rule?
  1241. May 02 21:11:33 <geeksquad94>   Will this be posted? this would be cool to rewatch
  1242. May 02 21:11:36 <xncheckmate>   @Gregor yeah
  1243. May 02 21:11:40 <spencer_tickman>       please!
  1244. May 02 21:11:43 <devenstonow>   no
  1245. May 02 21:11:43 <geeksquad94>   yes please
  1246. May 02 21:11:45 <pwnagenick>    hold on im looking for the rule
  1247. May 02 21:11:46 <alecmataloni>  meh
  1248. May 02 21:11:46 <rahul469>      That would be awesome.
  1249. May 02 21:11:47 <metonyms>      NEED MORE CORN DOG MICROPHONES. DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT!
  1250. May 02 21:11:47 <david2485>     Lol asked like 3 seconds ago
  1251. May 02 21:11:47 <anupamgoli>    meh
  1252. May 02 21:11:48 <alecmataloni>  depends
  1253. May 02 21:11:48 <pwnagenick>    and yesssss
  1254. May 02 21:11:51 <robodude03>    chat logs would be good
  1255. May 02 21:11:51 <david2485>     Yesyesyesyesyesyesyes
  1256. May 02 21:12:02 <spencer_tickman>       CORNDOG MICS!
  1257. May 02 21:12:05 <electronica1_> yea, rewatching it later, not having the chat is really odd
  1258. May 02 21:12:12 <rahul469>      The scoring table was hilarious.
  1259. May 02 21:12:15 <anupamgoli>    don't conflict with top25
  1260. May 02 21:12:18 <anupamgoli>    they may declare war
  1261. May 02 21:12:21 <metonyms>      CORN DOG MICS FOR ALL!
  1262. May 02 21:12:22 <hallry1676>    But also don't do shows that interefere with FRC Top 25
  1263. May 02 21:12:22 <quicksilverblitz>      sure
  1264. May 02 21:12:22 <xncheckmate>   ^
  1265. May 02 21:12:32 <hallry1676>    *interfere
  1266. May 02 21:12:34 <thebrowniee>   Record and post twitch chat? anywhere else that would be crazy talk
  1267. May 02 21:13:00 <frankmerrick7> Hey, back to stop build day.  I'm an FLL coach.  We decide in advance how many days we're going to work and what we want to accomplish by competition day.  FLL is NOT FRC, but can FRC Mentors have this kind of discussion with their teams as well?
  1268. May 02 21:13:26 <anupamgoli>    Well with my team we'd just have a 15 week build season
  1269. May 02 21:13:27 <mman1506>      yup
  1270. May 02 21:13:31 <devenstonow>   it's hard to with an infinite build season
  1271. May 02 21:13:31 <robodude03>    yes
  1272. May 02 21:13:35 <anupamgoli>    maybe sprinkled with off days, so yes, we can have that discussion
  1273. May 02 21:13:39 <devenstonow>   you wanna work every day
  1274. May 02 21:13:51 <spectrum3847>  During an open build season my team would do more outreach
  1275. May 02 21:14:02 <frcgamesense>  What day should we have the show: http://strawpoll.me/1622684
  1276. May 02 21:14:03 <anupamgoli>    I'd be one of the 4th <3
  1277. May 02 21:14:03 <metonyms>      #DOINGOURTHANG
  1278. May 02 21:14:06 <rahul469>      The teams that wouldn't have that talk would quickly learn that they need to.
  1279. May 02 21:14:07 <cbmcbride>     for teams that don't build practice bots and normally stop working after bag day I think they can set limits. speaking for 254 we will fill the amount of time we're given no matter what.
  1280. May 02 21:14:08 <anupamgoli>    one of the 4 viewers*
  1281. May 02 21:14:10 <spectrum3847>  we already do a bunch during build season but it's hard when we are sacrificing limited resources.
  1282. May 02 21:14:12 <robotjunky>    but not 3 viewers? lol
  1283. May 02 21:14:15 <markus5578>    Hey could a couple guys in the chat just give me a bit of feedback on our website (I would really apprciate it) www.team5036.com
  1284. May 02 21:14:24 <spencer_tickman>       everyday is not an option :(
  1285. May 02 21:14:39 <metonyms>      LOL
  1286. May 02 21:14:41 <cbmcbride>     build season is already 16 weeks for us. that wouldn't change. the need to implement changes on 2 robots would go away, which is nice.
  1287. May 02 21:14:42 <david2485>     Definitely not Sunday.
  1288. May 02 21:14:46 <metonyms>      ALL DAY EVERYDAY!
  1289. May 02 21:14:50 <hallry1676>    Don't do Tuesday's at 8PM Easter - That's when Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is on ;)
  1290. May 02 21:14:54 <robodude03>    Markus, main slide takes a bit to load
  1291. May 02 21:14:56 <hallry1676>    *Eastern
  1292. May 02 21:15:00 <electronica1_> An open build season would have helped so much this year for my team, we would have actually been able to fix our electrical issue we had all season that we were finally able to fix for our last couple matches at champs
  1293. May 02 21:15:01 <robodude03>    probably use lower res pics
  1294. May 02 21:15:02 <spectrum3847>  Open build season means we can help more teams, all teams in my area would be inspected by me and problems fixed before competitions because I would go to their schools and do it on one of the numerous open days that we would have
  1295. May 02 21:15:08 <anupamgoli>    I voted!
  1296. May 02 21:15:16 <spectrum3847>  only me now
  1297. May 02 21:15:20 <spectrum3847>  they left at 10:30
  1298. May 02 21:15:20 <devenstonow>   thats why i mentioned community interaction: top25 is good with its community interaction which is why i like the lack of community interaction in gamesense
  1299. May 02 21:15:26 <devenstonow>   *direct interaction
  1300. May 02 21:15:31 <david2485>     Why is Thurs. not an option?
  1301. May 02 21:15:39 <hallry1676>    Competitions.
  1302. May 02 21:15:45 <frcgamesense>  Thursday is comp day
  1303. May 02 21:15:46 <metonyms>      ^
  1304. May 02 21:15:48 <anupamgoli>    thursday is for preparing your webcast setup, duh
  1305. May 02 21:15:55 <frcgamesense>  Moar votes pls: http://strawpoll.me/1622684
  1306. May 02 21:16:03 <metonyms>      WE HAVE TO SETUP PNW A/V STUFF ON THURSDAY
  1307. May 02 21:16:14 <robotjunky>    ugh i need to get to sleep to uch robots
  1308. May 02 21:16:17 <spectrum3847>  Also teams would be able to practice more, you talked about the 254 scrimmage only teams with practice bots can do that, an open build season means every team can do that
  1309. May 02 21:16:19 <metonyms>      lol having the robot done week 4
  1310. May 02 21:16:46 <frankmerrick7> Can you poll about stop build day?
  1311. May 02 21:16:50 <frcgamesense>  Vote now or hold yo peace next year when it is on a day yoyu can't watch: http://strawpoll.me/1622684
  1312. May 02 21:17:04 <anupamgoli>    are you threatening your viewers?
  1313. May 02 21:17:06 <david2485>     Stop build strawpoll
  1314. May 02 21:17:13 <frcgamesense>  http://strawpoll.me/1622690
  1315. May 02 21:17:16 <anupamgoli>    The humanity!
  1316. May 02 21:17:24 <fritofloyd>    Mon - Thurs 6 -9 and then Sat 9 - 330 on team 1983
  1317. May 02 21:17:25 <cbmcbride>     spectrum: that would be a huge benefit. we (254) could help  so many more teams resolve issues before they get to competition if their robot wasn't in a bag
  1318. May 02 21:17:41 <spectrum3847>  yep
  1319. May 02 21:17:56 <frankmerrick7> Have the same 70 people been hanging around for the last two or three hours?
  1320. May 02 21:17:57 <spectrum3847>  It would be so great, to actually fix problems before events
  1321. May 02 21:18:02 <robodude03>    I have been
  1322. May 02 21:18:08 <anupamgoli>    probabl
  1323. May 02 21:18:15 <xncheckmate>   I have been
  1324. May 02 21:18:16 <cbmcbride>     nobody is ready for help before stop build day... too busy finishing robots.
  1325. May 02 21:18:16 <metonyms>      no one told me we were going over so I got here about 30 minutes ago
  1326. May 02 21:18:19 <electronica1_> i feel like the big thing with open build season is not the extra time, it is the fact that we don't need a 2nd robot and we can repair our robot between competitons
  1327. May 02 21:18:23 <devenstonow>   basically
  1328. May 02 21:18:24 <geeksquad94>   most likely its pretty similar
  1329. May 02 21:18:24 <clicata1730>   I wish I had been, I was not able to watch till just now
  1330. May 02 21:18:24 <david2485>     Poll-erizing?
  1331. May 02 21:18:28 <alecmataloni>  @frank yes
  1332. May 02 21:18:34 <robotjunky>    yes
  1333. May 02 21:18:51 <electronica1_> I just started watching again at 11:45
  1334. May 02 21:18:51 <wdoherty>      yeah
  1335. May 02 21:18:56 <rahul469>      I know some teams would still build a practice bot anyway (don't want to wear and tear your comp bot with the amount of drive practice), but it takes a LOT of the stress off of unbag time and thursday.
  1336. May 02 21:18:57 <gregor_browning>       Reposting Jim's posts
  1337. May 02 21:19:00 <pwnagenick>    i mean for us it doesnt matter a ton if theres a stop build day because of our practice bot
  1338. May 02 21:19:06 <gregor_browning>       http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1274004#post1274004
  1339. May 02 21:19:11 <robotjunky>    good night F
  1340. May 02 21:19:15 <gregor_browning>       http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1273768&highlight=ship#post1273768
  1341. May 02 21:19:34 <robotjunky>    goodnight FRC community i got robots in the morning
  1342. May 02 21:19:48 <david2485>     Lul
  1343. May 02 21:19:52 <anupamgoli>    ooh me
  1344. May 02 21:19:54 <spencer_tickman>       SAT in the morning!
  1345. May 02 21:19:55 <fritofloyd>    YEAH gosh, such a waste of time. Never do dis show
  1346. May 02 21:19:56 <rahul469>      LOL
  1347. May 02 21:19:58 <metonyms>      Spencer we can go until about 10, then to sleep before SATs
  1348. May 02 21:20:02 <xncheckmate>   SAT tomorrow, nbd
  1349. May 02 21:20:09 <justinmca>     EJ HOST!
  1350. May 02 21:20:13 <anupamgoli>    Ej's face is creeping me out
  1351. May 02 21:20:18 <david2485>     EJOST
  1352. May 02 21:20:21 <frankmerrick7> Good luck with those SATs!
  1353. May 02 21:20:23 <rahul469>      Oh cmon, if you have the SAT tomorrow morning, that's more important (no offense guys).
  1354. May 02 21:20:24 <metonyms>      NEED MORE EJ!
  1355. May 02 21:20:24 <thebrowniee>   Banhammer???
  1356. May 02 21:20:28 <fritofloyd>    To scout or not to scout, that is the question
  1357. May 02 21:20:49 <wdoherty>      Will you be doing coverage of IRI?
  1358. May 02 21:20:51 <gregor_browning>       "I specifically stepped away when they asked EJ"  What did you think he was going to do?
  1359. May 02 21:20:54 <gregor_browning>       ;)
  1360. May 02 21:20:55 <david2485>     They said they will
  1361. May 02 21:21:06 <francis190>    i didnt want to gang up on him, 4 v 1
  1362. May 02 21:21:11 <devenstonow>   peter moore is cool
  1363. May 02 21:21:12 <metonyms>      I ALMOST GOT MEDIA BADGES, and then I forgot to get my company registered as an LLC
  1364. May 02 21:21:12 <xncheckmate>   It was like asking someone to prom
  1365. May 02 21:21:14 <francis190>    like a bunhc of sad puppies
  1366. May 02 21:21:37 <david2485>     Dammit Xncheckmate stop reminding me about asking someone to prom
  1367. May 02 21:21:42 <david2485>     That's on my todo list
  1368. May 02 21:21:42 <metonyms>      praise based Kevin Ross for giving me a volunteer badge for all the awesome free food
  1369. May 02 21:21:44 <david2485>     Lol
  1370. May 02 21:21:48 <devenstonow>   Just ask? Hey Frank can I have Corndogs?
  1371. May 02 21:21:53 <anupamgoli>    UNless you're Jared
  1372. May 02 21:21:53 <devenstonow>   instantrimshot.com
  1373. May 02 21:21:57 <anupamgoli>    Jared doesn't get corndogs
  1374. May 02 21:22:01 <frankmerrick7> Just ask
  1375. May 02 21:22:11 <robodude03>    ^
  1376. May 02 21:22:14 <1983navidshafa>        Truth be told, Jared didn't ask
  1377. May 02 21:22:19 <1983navidshafa>        He said your move frank
  1378. May 02 21:22:21 <alecmataloni>  hey frank, what's the 2015 game?
  1379. May 02 21:22:27 <hallry1676>    You can ask, but the answer doesn't have to be yes ;)
  1380. May 02 21:22:30 <geeksquad94>   whats the ej story?
  1381. May 02 21:22:30 <david2485>     Already tried it Alec
  1382. May 02 21:22:37 <david2485>     He didn't answer ;__;
  1383. May 02 21:22:40 <anupamgoli>    I would watch
  1384. May 02 21:22:41 <alecmataloni>  lol missed it
  1385. May 02 21:22:43 <robodude03>    would watch
  1386. May 02 21:22:44 <avanboekel11>  worth a shot
  1387. May 02 21:22:44 <spencer_tickman>       Chezy Champs?
  1388. May 02 21:22:46 <anupamgoli>    i don't have anything else to do over the summer
  1389. May 02 21:22:52 <gregor_browning>       I don't think gamesense has to worry about views any more.  
  1390. May 02 21:22:54 <metonyms>      Straw Poll for watching the IRI Pre-show?
  1391. May 02 21:22:56 <electronica1_> Frank, will we still be launching stuff in next years game?
  1392. May 02 21:23:04 <electronica1_> (not expecting answer)
  1393. May 02 21:23:09 <anupamgoli>    Robotics Memes
  1394. May 02 21:23:09 <pwnagenick>    Frank I emailed you
  1395. May 02 21:23:15 <fritofloyd>    You need to get out of things that only have friends see them
  1396. May 02 21:23:21 <anupamgoli>    Get Robotics Memes to reach out
  1397. May 02 21:23:21 <david2485>     It's not?
  1398. May 02 21:23:21 <pwnagenick>    thanks a ton for being so open and approachable
  1399. May 02 21:23:22 <hallry1676>    Frank, what new district systems are expected to come next year?
  1400. May 02 21:23:22 <david2485>     Boring.
  1401. May 02 21:23:27 <gregor_browning>       Robotics memes is already an unofficial spokespage
  1402. May 02 21:23:29 <david2485>     The sub is actually awesome
  1403. May 02 21:23:33 <david2485>     And it should be bigger.
  1404. May 02 21:23:33 <metonyms>      Ask Frank to mention it in his blog every blog
  1405. May 02 21:23:34 <fritofloyd>    like you need a really public posting, try and talk to FIRST themself and get a section on the website
  1406. May 02 21:23:37 <devenstonow>   myspace
  1407. May 02 21:23:43 <anupamgoli>    ^
  1408. May 02 21:23:48 <david2485>     But IT IS NOT for the same things as CD (e.g. technical discussions, etc)
  1409. May 02 21:23:51 <xncheckmate>   CNN
  1410. May 02 21:23:52 <quicksilverblitz>      if Frank posts your selfie vid in his blog, I'm sure you'll get some more hits soon enough :p
  1411. May 02 21:23:54 <electronica1_> Frank, are they making a FRC movie?
  1412. May 02 21:23:55 <anupamgoli>    Obviously you need to use geocities
  1413. May 02 21:23:59 <fritofloyd>    Get an add on the FRC website, have one of the cover photos
  1414. May 02 21:24:04 <frankmerrick7> I wonder sometimes, if I ask teams in their pits, for example, what they think about the game, if I'm getting a straight answer, or if I'm being treated like a judge (if they see my badge)
  1415. May 02 21:24:04 <hallry1676>    linkedin.
  1416. May 02 21:24:18 <xncheckmate>   who actually uses the FRC reddit...
  1417. May 02 21:24:22 <david2485>     Me
  1418. May 02 21:24:23 <metonyms>      I do...
  1419. May 02 21:24:26 <spencer_tickman>       Will there be a pre Chezy Champs show?
  1420. May 02 21:24:27 <anupamgoli>    Probably treated like a judge, Frank
  1421. May 02 21:24:30 <metonyms>      I post all the highlight reels there
  1422. May 02 21:24:32 <hallry1676>    well, we can't see your badge now, so it's all good!
  1423. May 02 21:24:40 <anupamgoli>    The most honest opinions of the game came during the regional season probably
  1424. May 02 21:24:42 <frcgamesense>  We are talking to the poofs about doing some chezzy coverage.
  1425. May 02 21:24:45 <rahul469>      I was there xD. He's a really cool kid.
  1426. May 02 21:24:49 <gregor_browning>       Frank, are you familiar with the show Undercover Boss?
  1427. May 02 21:24:55 <anupamgoli>    on chief Delphi or the subreddit
  1428. May 02 21:24:56 <spectrum3847>  I made sure to specifically tell my kids who you were and that they didn't need to give you the judge pitch, Frank
  1429. May 02 21:25:06 <hallry1676>    @Gregor - oh boy...
  1430. May 02 21:25:08 <gregor_browning>       That would be a great way to make it loud and get honest opinions.  
  1431. May 02 21:25:16 <david2485>     Hahahahaha Gregor
  1432. May 02 21:25:21 <metonyms>      Do it Frank, it would be awesome
  1433. May 02 21:25:37 <metonyms>      Act like a normal volunteer with no clue about FRC
  1434. May 02 21:25:41 <francis190>    http://img.pandawhale.com/38848-The-Feels-gif-UHzu.gif
  1435. May 02 21:25:42 <hallry1676>    You can pretend to be me, Frank. Actually, we can just switch places ;)
  1436. May 02 21:25:55 <robotjunky>    he sat there and admire your robot on the practice field for like the first day at worlds and was telling me all about your team
  1437. May 02 21:25:58 <devenstonow>   gamesense fanclub?
  1438. May 02 21:26:01 <anupamgoli>    Frank, just wear a fedora and a horsemask
  1439. May 02 21:26:03 <anupamgoli>    no one will know its you
  1440. May 02 21:26:08 <anupamgoli>    except for me
  1441. May 02 21:26:16 <hallry1676>    and the 70 other people in the chat.
  1442. May 02 21:26:17 <dolton51citycraft>     Frank, you came to our pit at NE Champs and when you asked one of my teammates what they though of the game, there answer changed from what they had been saying all of build season
  1443. May 02 21:26:19 <david2485>     Stratkiiiidddd
  1444. May 02 21:26:19 <metonyms>      and everyone watching right now
  1445. May 02 21:26:20 <david2485>     W00t
  1446. May 02 21:26:24 <frankmerrick7> @spectrum Thanks, Allen, good to hear.  
  1447. May 02 21:26:24 <electronica1_> Frank, wear a cheese head
  1448. May 02 21:26:37 <gregor_browning>       Right, that's what I think of when I think inconspicuous.  Fedora and horse mask.  
  1449. May 02 21:26:44 <anupamgoli>    Gregor
  1450. May 02 21:26:47 <anupamgoli>    it's a robotics competition
  1451. May 02 21:26:56 <anupamgoli>    wearing khakis and a button down are more conspicuous
  1452. May 02 21:26:58 <gregor_browning>       Y M  C  A
  1453. May 02 21:26:58 <xncheckmate>   Wear the funny mask with the nose and glasses.
  1454. May 02 21:27:01 <spectrum3847>  I did also tell them that they had to talk about the Q&A at least a little bit
  1455. May 02 21:27:04 <david2485>     Lol truth.
  1456. May 02 21:27:08 <pwnagenick>    Frank your email didn't work!
  1457. May 02 21:27:46 <devenstonow>   <3 andy grady
  1458. May 02 21:27:56 <wdoherty>      Do you think the show would flow differently if next year's game is less complicated?
  1459. May 02 21:28:16 <electronica1_> My team had our driver wear a horse mask during a match at an off season, we really freaked out the MC
  1460. May 02 21:28:17 <frankmerrick7> @dolton so you think they changed what they were reporting because of who I was?
  1461. May 02 21:28:22 <metonyms>      how do you guys have more likes than my team page does? EVERYONE GO LIKE https://www.facebook.com/FRC1318?ref=hl !!!
  1462. May 02 21:29:07 <anupamgoli>    you know what i didn't understand?
  1463. May 02 21:29:23 <david2485>     SHAMELESS PLUG:
  1464. May 02 21:29:26 <david2485>     https://www.facebook.com/FRCTeam2485
  1465. May 02 21:29:26 <dolton51citycraft>     Yes, I do. I guess there's a possibility that their opinion changed, but I don't think it did
  1466. May 02 21:29:32 <xncheckmate>   Ok, well I should probably go get ready for the SAT. Thanks to GameSense, Frank, and EJ for putting on a great show; and this aftershow had a lot of great discussion. Even got to talk about League. Night!
  1467. May 02 21:29:34 <metonyms>      EVERYONE PLUG YOUR TEAM FB PAGES
  1468. May 02 21:29:40 <anupamgoli>    I saw someone cosplay as ash and misty from pokemon at a competition. What doesn that have to do with robotics at all?
  1469. May 02 21:29:42 <francis190>    Aloha dude!
  1470. May 02 21:29:56 <frankmerrick7> @pwnagenick  OK, to be honest, I gave you the email address I use when I really don't want to hear from someone.  Just kidding!  try again:  fmerrick@usfirst.org
  1471. May 02 21:29:56 <david2485>     https://www.facebook.com/FRCTeam2485
  1472. May 02 21:30:17 <spencer_tickman>       come to PNW undercover
  1473. May 02 21:30:19 <frankmerrick7> Bless you Dave
  1474. May 02 21:30:33 <devenstonow>   favorite flavors of ice cream?
  1475. May 02 21:30:36 <pwnagenick>    what do you guys think about new districts for next year?
  1476. May 02 21:30:40 <frankmerrick7> Not a bad idea, to go incognito.
  1477. May 02 21:30:44 <metonyms>      @spencer we would know he was coming before he came
  1478. May 02 21:30:47 <rahul469>      Who's going districts next year?
  1479. May 02 21:30:53 <pwnagenick>    ^^^
  1480. May 02 21:30:53 <anupamgoli>    Just make sure no one is standing behind you when you're incognito!
  1481. May 02 21:30:54 <metonyms>      like how you figured out Woodie was coming
  1482. May 02 21:31:13 <david2485>     See what you did there Anupamgoli
  1483. May 02 21:31:20 <dolton51citycraft>     Well the person from my team whom you spoke to, knew exactly who you were. So you not having the badge would't have made a difference
  1484. May 02 21:31:35 <pwnagenick>    i tried that email frank and it didnt work
  1485. May 02 21:31:45 <devenstonow>   @Dolton but I'm sure a large majority wouldn't know who he is...
  1486. May 02 21:31:55 <david2485>     Cali district yes or no?
  1487. May 02 21:31:57 <hallry1676>    Did you try setting it to 'Wumbo', Pwnage?
  1488. May 02 21:31:58 <metonyms>      MORE DISTRICTS!!
  1489. May 02 21:32:02 <david2485>     K
  1490. May 02 21:32:03 <rahul469>      Cali isn't from what I've heard
  1491. May 02 21:32:11 <hallry1676>    Capital Region?
  1492. May 02 21:32:16 <gregor_browning>       Cali and Ontario are a no :/
  1493. May 02 21:32:22 <geeksquad94>   i heard from jim beck no for california districts next year
  1494. May 02 21:32:27 <david2485>     That's what I've heard too :) can still compete w/ 987
  1495. May 02 21:32:32 <devenstonow>   ontario is a no? hmm
  1496. May 02 21:32:32 <cbmcbride>     pwnage: can confirm that email works. have emailed frank and gotten a response from it
  1497. May 02 21:32:33 <avanboekel11>  I've heard Illinois/Indiana
  1498. May 02 21:32:36 <metonyms>      @Gregor Good, I want to go to Waterloo at least once
  1499. May 02 21:32:43 <wdoherty>      I've heard rumors about Illinois (and Indiana?)
  1500. May 02 21:32:46 <pwnagenick>    maybe i copy pasted it wrong?
  1501. May 02 21:32:48 <rahul469>      Steve Florence told me at champs that we're not going this year
  1502. May 02 21:32:53 <electronica1_> capital region should probably be in a district, but will probably not be a district for a couple years
  1503. May 02 21:32:56 <metonyms>      or is waterloo somewhere else?
  1504. May 02 21:32:57 <rahul469>      He had a meeting with FIRST at champs
  1505. May 02 21:33:07 <rahul469>      we being indianaFIRST
  1506. May 02 21:33:15 <avanboekel11>  :(
  1507. May 02 21:33:21 <frankmerrick7> @pwnagenick I can't explain.  Are you sure you're using .org?  
  1508. May 02 21:33:35 <devenstonow>   minessota has volunteer issues from what i hear
  1509. May 02 21:33:47 <rahul469>      I heard the same, volunteer issues.
  1510. May 02 21:33:51 <devenstonow>   being that they dont have enough
  1511. May 02 21:33:54 <frankmerrick7> I understand MN likes the current structure
  1512. May 02 21:33:55 <rahul469>      ^
  1513. May 02 21:34:06 <devenstonow>   yeah that too
  1514. May 02 21:34:07 <anupamgoli>    I'll make an official poll later, but what type of robots and gameplay do you associate with the regions highlighted in this image: http://imgur.com/ZrcScmC
  1515. May 02 21:34:13 <devenstonow>   NE has most of their districts at college and they're awesome
  1516. May 02 21:34:15 <metonyms>      @Deven if they do then that would explain it. PNW had a very strong volunteer roster where you would see people that went to over 5 events in a single season
  1517. May 02 21:34:29 <metonyms>      I went to 7 events this season
  1518. May 02 21:34:38 <metonyms>      2
  1519. May 02 21:34:45 <rahul469>      Most of the MI districts are high schools
  1520. May 02 21:34:48 <devenstonow>   yay NEU district <3
  1521. May 02 21:35:02 <gregor_browning>       All Ontario events this year were university events + 610's school.  
  1522. May 02 21:35:09 <metonyms>      Kevin was talking about how some colleges just didn't have the right layout
  1523. May 02 21:35:20 <gregor_browning>       And they were all regionals.  
  1524. May 02 21:35:27 <geeksquad94>   wilsonville was a great venue. there was lots of space and pits were really close
  1525. May 02 21:35:29 <frankmerrick7> Do they have pools?
  1526. May 02 21:35:32 <metonyms>      which event did 610 host?
  1527. May 02 21:35:38 <wdoherty>      I believe central Illinois was an inflatable tent-like thing
  1528. May 02 21:35:38 <mman1506>      GTRW
  1529. May 02 21:35:40 <gregor_browning>       GTR West.  
  1530. May 02 21:35:46 <hallry1676>    Nice, Gregor. http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=129299
  1531. May 02 21:35:47 <rahul469>      Lawrence North is a great venue.
  1532. May 02 21:35:48 <pwnagenick>    nvm Frank i think it sent. Outlook was being weird
  1533. May 02 21:35:49 <metonyms>      oh, so that is why they made a highlight reel for that one
  1534. May 02 21:36:05 <gregor_browning>       Ryan I swear you're the only person who refreshes CD more than I do.  
  1535. May 02 21:36:05 <pwnagenick>    WATER GAME
  1536. May 02 21:36:07 <david2485>     #watergame
  1537. May 02 21:36:09 <metonyms>      WATER GAME
  1538. May 02 21:36:14 <hallry1676>    ;)
  1539. May 02 21:36:18 <pwnagenick>    oh god no
  1540. May 02 21:36:19 <spectrum3847>  maybe a drained pool
  1541. May 02 21:36:20 <rahul469>      I don't think that's gonna stop CD. :P
  1542. May 02 21:36:21 <metonyms>      #needsmorewater
  1543. May 02 21:36:23 <geeksquad94>   Frank already said no.,....
  1544. May 02 21:36:25 <pwnagenick>    dont talk about it
  1545. May 02 21:36:32 <spencer_tickman>       gutter racing
  1546. May 02 21:36:36 <electronica1_> Frank never said anything about an ice game :P
  1547. May 02 21:36:39 <anupamgoli>    Francis, are you from the south?
  1548. May 02 21:36:43 <spectrum3847>  Water game jokes were old in 2003
  1549. May 02 21:36:45 <anupamgoli>    you butchered y'all pretty bad
  1550. May 02 21:36:51 <metonyms>      did stream stop?
  1551. May 02 21:36:51 <anupamgoli>    :)
  1552. May 02 21:36:55 <anupamgoli>    ye
  1553. May 02 21:36:56 <justinmca>     but the flying game will happen
  1554. May 02 21:36:57 <david2485>     Him saying he'd never do a water game and he confirmed that it doesn't mean it's actually happening CLEARLY MEANS IT'S HAPPENING
  1555. May 02 21:36:58 <david2485>     RIGHT
  1556. May 02 21:37:00 <geeksquad94>   No ice game please. 2009 had issues over ice...
  1557. May 02 21:37:03 <devenstonow>   HEY GUYS WATER GAME CONFIRMED FRANK SHUT STREAM DOWN
  1558. May 02 21:37:04 <metonyms>      no that was just me
  1559. May 02 21:37:06 <metonyms>      oh wait
  1560. May 02 21:37:11 <francis190>    hold
  1561. May 02 21:37:12 <spencer_tickman>       best ending ever!!!
  1562. May 02 21:37:13 <1983navidshafa>        Frank and illoominadi
  1563. May 02 21:37:17 <francis190>    dave is afk and stream is down
  1564. May 02 21:37:18 <anupamgoli>    Loomynarty
  1565. May 02 21:37:20 <metonyms>      STREAM DOWN WATER GAME CONSPIRACY!
  1566. May 02 21:37:24 <1983navidshafa>        hiccup
  1567. May 02 21:37:29 <1983navidshafa>        Comcast is in on the conspiracy too
  1568. May 02 21:37:32 <metonyms>      1318 = illuminati
  1569. May 02 21:37:35 <pwnagenick>    #awkward
  1570. May 02 21:37:40 <anupamgoli>    can loomynarty be trusssted?
  1571. May 02 21:37:43 <gregor_browning>       Dave Lavery once said that you're not allowed to use y'all if you're North of the Mason-Dixon line.  Please listen to him, he's a smart person.http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=369308#post369308
  1572. May 02 21:37:43 <devenstonow>   comcast IS a sponsor...
  1573. May 02 21:37:43 <metonyms>      and dave walks back
  1574. May 02 21:37:45 <david2485>     Back
  1575. May 02 21:37:46 <frankmerrick7> I'd like to see a version of CD that automatically removes any post with a water game reference
  1576. May 02 21:37:50 <metonyms>      when it starts back up
  1577. May 02 21:37:55 <rahul469>      +1 Frank
  1578. May 02 21:38:01 <quicksilverblitz>      are PNW people not watching the playoff game right now?
  1579. May 02 21:38:02 <cbmcbride>     +1 to that, Frank
  1580. May 02 21:38:09 <spectrum3847>  that would be good Frank, Brandon can probably do this
  1581. May 02 21:38:11 <pwnagenick>    because of that last post, Frank Merrick for President 2016
  1582. May 02 21:38:14 <geeksquad94>   ive got the game on my 3rd screen
  1583. May 02 21:38:15 <rahul469>      Also when game hint threads keep going for 100 posts after they figured out the hint.
  1584. May 02 21:38:16 <metonyms>      GAMESENSE > PLAYOFF GAME
  1585. May 02 21:38:20 <spencer_tickman>       what playoff game?
  1586. May 02 21:38:29 <metonyms>      yeah what playoff game
  1587. May 02 21:38:30 <pwnagenick>    #realtalk
  1588. May 02 21:38:31 <geeksquad94>   portland houston
  1589. May 02 21:38:33 <anupamgoli>    other than spam mods?
  1590. May 02 21:38:34 <electronica1_> secret end game
  1591. May 02 21:38:34 <geeksquad94>   game 6
  1592. May 02 21:38:35 <david2485>     That might be cool.
  1593. May 02 21:38:35 <cbmcbride>     there are like 20 people in FIRST that watch sports. odds of them being in here... not good.
  1594. May 02 21:38:45 <metonyms>      CD needs a better color scheme
  1595. May 02 21:38:48 <spencer_tickman>       basketball?
  1596. May 02 21:38:49 <anupamgoli>    people should stop using CD as a social network
  1597. May 02 21:38:50 <frankmerrick7> Dave, is that pepperoni you got there?
  1598. May 02 21:38:51 <anupamgoli>    use it as a forum
  1599. May 02 21:38:52 <metonyms>      it looks atrocious
  1600. May 02 21:39:06 <quicksilverblitz>      fair point Cory
  1601. May 02 21:39:08 <geeksquad94>   i couldnt tell you the first thing about basketball, but its on because i had a free screeen, and i might as well root for my home team
  1602. May 02 21:39:14 <anupamgoli>    Navid
  1603. May 02 21:39:19 <gregor_browning>       301 points!  like that thread?
  1604. May 02 21:39:23 <frankmerrick7> You da man
  1605. May 02 21:39:27 <1983navidshafa>        What Anupam?
  1606. May 02 21:39:29 <david2485>     Oh damn.
  1607. May 02 21:39:31 <anupamgoli>    Ask gamesense about this:http://imgur.com/ZrcScmC
  1608. May 02 21:39:34 <david2485>     Gregor:
  1609. May 02 21:39:36 <frankmerrick7> 3 for $9?  That's insane
  1610. May 02 21:39:38 <david2485>     Goaway
  1611. May 02 21:39:38 <devenstonow>   email the admit
  1612. May 02 21:39:41 <devenstonow>   *admin
  1613. May 02 21:39:41 <hallry1676>    Have you asked Brandon?
  1614. May 02 21:39:43 <devenstonow>   and you can change it
  1615. May 02 21:39:45 <anupamgoli>    I think it would be interesting to see what they think
  1616. May 02 21:39:46 <devenstonow>   hahahahaha
  1617. May 02 21:39:48 <geeksquad94>   You can email brandon and he'll change it
  1618. May 02 21:39:50 <gregor_browning>       Email Brandon, he changed mine.  
  1619. May 02 21:39:50 <rahul469>      Lmfao
  1620. May 02 21:39:55 <pwnagenick>    purple is way too big in that map
  1621. May 02 21:40:03 <electronica1_> I second Anupamgoli's question
  1622. May 02 21:40:07 <fritofloyd>    relink?
  1623. May 02 21:40:22 <frcgamesense>  End of the night special Frank, it;s OP.
  1624. May 02 21:40:22 <anupamgoli>    http://imgur.com/ZrcScmC
  1625. May 02 21:40:23 <david2485>     CA, AZ, and NV should be linked
  1626. May 02 21:40:41 <devenstonow>   southern NY is a mess FIRSTwise
  1627. May 02 21:40:48 <electronica1_> I wonder, what do people think of the section that includes VA?
  1628. May 02 21:40:53 <fritofloyd>    Florida is by itself?
  1629. May 02 21:40:59 <hallry1676>    I've heard that people in VA hate VA.
  1630. May 02 21:40:59 <fritofloyd>    How is florida its own thing?
  1631. May 02 21:41:01 <quicksilverblitz>      i'm not even sure norcal and socal are perceived to be that similar
  1632. May 02 21:41:05 <gregor_browning>       Where is this image from?
  1633. May 02 21:41:11 <anupamgoli>    I made it
  1634. May 02 21:41:31 <david2485>     Yeah CA, NV, and SoCal should be one thing
  1635. May 02 21:41:31 <cbmcbride>     talk is of Northern and southern California "district" champs
  1636. May 02 21:41:31 <spectrum3847>  Is OK, MS, and LA really grouped in with Texas? I like those teams but Texas is pretty different and will be it's own district (eventually)
  1637. May 02 21:41:31 <gregor_browning>       I guess Ontario is just going back to Canada FIRST huh?
  1638. May 02 21:41:34 <david2485>     Then NorCal should be another thing.
  1639. May 02 21:41:42 <cbmcbride>     I hope it is not split.
  1640. May 02 21:41:47 <electronica1_> +1 Ryan
  1641. May 02 21:41:50 <1983navidshafa>        Sorry Gregor
  1642. May 02 21:41:50 <pwnagenick>    Frank, is it fmerrick@usfirst.org ?
  1643. May 02 21:41:51 <quicksilverblitz>      taking a page from pac12 football - I'd like that
  1644. May 02 21:41:55 <anupamgoli>    Take everything i say with a grain of salt
  1645. May 02 21:41:57 <pwnagenick>    i tried again and no luck
  1646. May 02 21:41:59 <metonyms>      @Gregor when has canada every been more than just Canada?
  1647. May 02 21:42:06 <devenstonow>   LI/NYC is very isolated in FIRST
  1648. May 02 21:42:22 <devenstonow>   southern new york state (ie. right above the NY/NJ border) is a mess
  1649. May 02 21:42:23 <david2485>     Yeah
  1650. May 02 21:42:26 <devenstonow>   int hat there's no FIRST lol
  1651. May 02 21:42:29 <david2485>     Seriously
  1652. May 02 21:42:30 <frankmerrick7> @pwnagenick  Yes.  
  1653. May 02 21:42:33 <cbmcbride>     we want 987!
  1654. May 02 21:42:38 <gregor_browning>       When we took 2/3 Einstein winners, and 3/4 IRI winners ;)
  1655. May 02 21:42:42 <david2485>     I REALLY want 987 in our district if it happens ;-;
  1656. May 02 21:42:43 <hallry1676>    It is
  1657. May 02 21:42:49 <pwnagenick>    idk why Microsoft Outlook doesn't like your email address
  1658. May 02 21:42:50 <metonyms>      ok I guess you win there
  1659. May 02 21:42:52 <hallry1676>    1676 is right on the norther NJ/NY border
  1660. May 02 21:42:54 <david2485>     Yesssss gregor :'D
  1661. May 02 21:43:02 <hallry1676>    FIRST is barren there.
  1662. May 02 21:43:04 <1983navidshafa>        Gregor, make a canadian map and add it to the thread. You know it better than all of us
  1663. May 02 21:43:05 <devenstonow>   @Hall 223 is closer :p
  1664. May 02 21:43:10 <metonyms>      PNW has yet to even get Einstein
  1665. May 02 21:43:14 <hallry1676>    To the border?
  1666. May 02 21:43:19 <devenstonow>   probably
  1667. May 02 21:43:22 <hallry1676>    hmmmm
  1668. May 02 21:43:25 <devenstonow>   my middle school was virtually in NY state
  1669. May 02 21:43:28 <anupamgoli>    I'll put this map up and a nice google form on CD sometime later
  1670. May 02 21:43:30 <quicksilverblitz>      just speaking from an 846 perspective, we just have so many more relationships/rivalries with norcal teams, and I'd rather compete with them directly as much as possible
  1671. May 02 21:43:45 <hallry1676>    haha alright
  1672. May 02 21:44:01 <frankmerrick7> Going over 100 events in 2015.  
  1673. May 02 21:44:08 <metonyms>      WOO MORE EVENTS!
  1674. May 02 21:44:21 <frankmerrick7> We had 20 events running simultaneously one week this season
  1675. May 02 21:44:28 <anupamgoli>    week 5, right
  1676. May 02 21:44:28 <metonyms>      Week 5
  1677. May 02 21:44:41 <cbmcbride>     there's no reason you couldn't do that if southern California is part of the district. just means they could come here and we could go there. not that many teams actually would. would largely still be norcal teams up here.
  1678. May 02 21:44:51 <metonyms>      The one crazy week, which then led most PNW volunteers to not go to week 6
  1679. May 02 21:44:56 <devenstonow>    NYC/LI could theoretically join with MAR and be a REALLY huge region
  1680. May 02 21:44:58 <spectrum3847>  netherlands, european 2018 championship
  1681. May 02 21:45:30 <devenstonow>   1884 won NYC regional
  1682. May 02 21:45:45 <devenstonow>   not chairmans haha
  1683. May 02 21:45:52 <metonyms>      NEED MORE VOLUNTEERS!
  1684. May 02 21:46:15 <metonyms>      MOST PNW Volunteers did 6 Events and I did 7
  1685. May 02 21:46:25 <devenstonow>   was pine tree the only week steve didn't do an event?
  1686. May 02 21:46:27 <spencer_tickman>       they were turning away volunteers week 4
  1687. May 02 21:46:35 <frankmerrick7> I love FIRST
  1688. May 02 21:46:40 <anupamgoli>    Hey
  1689. May 02 21:46:42 <metonyms>      week 4 and at PNW Champs
  1690. May 02 21:46:42 <david2485>     I'd love to ref sometime
  1691. May 02 21:46:45 <anupamgoli>    I reffed at our FTC state champs
  1692. May 02 21:46:46 <david2485>     But I'm a student so there's that
  1693. May 02 21:46:53 <cbmcbride>     most did 6? no exaggeration? that's super unsustainable.
  1694. May 02 21:46:56 <anupamgoli>    so i have partial complaint rights
  1695. May 02 21:46:59 <spectrum3847>  I was sad this year, I only got to go to 4 events, we're doing like 7 off-seasons to make up for it
  1696. May 02 21:46:59 <metonyms>      I'm a student and look at how many events I did
  1697. May 02 21:47:02 <1983navidshafa>        @Metonym I'm really proud of our volunteers, especially all of you kids, your friends on 1318, the skunk kids and crew from jack in the bot
  1698. May 02 21:47:22 <gregor_browning>       I picked a very difficult year to start refereeing.
  1699. May 02 21:47:23 <metonyms>      PNW has an awesome roster of volunteers
  1700. May 02 21:47:37 <geeksquad94>   There were alot of PNW people that did 6 events.
  1701. May 02 21:47:42 <geeksquad94>   didnt Daren do 7?
  1702. May 02 21:47:47 <metonyms>      Yes he did
  1703. May 02 21:47:54 <metonyms>      Darin was awesome
  1704. May 02 21:48:06 <geeksquad94>   oh spelled it wrong. sorry Darin
  1705. May 02 21:48:08 <frankmerrick7> I ran the Jr FLL event at the University of New Hampshire for two years, so actually I have volunteered for FIRST!
  1706. May 02 21:48:09 <metonyms>      he went to an event almost every week during FTC AND FRC
  1707. May 02 21:48:57 <devenstonow>   you guys excited for IRI ewcp draft?
  1708. May 02 21:49:07 <rahul469>      I can't wait to watch this game at IRI
  1709. May 02 21:49:24 <wdoherty>      I feel the need to mention Al here. What he does is ridiculous.
  1710. May 02 21:49:53 <devenstonow>   #TeamScooby is ready for a comeback
  1711. May 02 21:49:53 <hallry1676>    Meh
  1712. May 02 21:49:54 <metonyms>      Can we get Blair on the show?
  1713. May 02 21:49:55 <anupamgoli>    wait, there's an EWCP draft?
  1714. May 02 21:50:04 <anupamgoli>    I'M COMING FOR YOUR TITLE
  1715. May 02 21:50:09 <devenstonow>   apparently they're doing one for IRI
  1716. May 02 21:50:13 <gregor_browning>       FF is fun, but a lot of work.  
  1717. May 02 21:50:18 <anupamgoli>    ^^
  1718. May 02 21:50:22 <frankmerrick7> Al is ridiculous  He's the real deal.    
  1719. May 02 21:50:30 <devenstonow>   230
  1720. May 02 21:50:32 <rahul469>      Stephanie did get her Howell prediction 100% right. :P
  1721. May 02 21:50:37 <devenstonow>   Awwwwwwwww yeaaaaaaaaah
  1722. May 02 21:50:47 <quicksilverblitz>      doing a good job in any fantasy sports/events league takes a ton of research
  1723. May 02 21:50:48 <gregor_browning>       I believe Al won VoY last year at champs.  Well deserved.  
  1724. May 02 21:50:50 <geeksquad94>   I miss blair up here
  1725. May 02 21:51:02 <metonyms>      BLAIR BLAIR BLAIR BLAIR BLAIR BLAIR BLAIR. BUT THE FUN!
  1726. May 02 21:51:02 <rahul469>      I haven't heard anything except the highest of praise about Al.
  1727. May 02 21:51:06 <david2485>     Get Dean and Woodie on the show
  1728. May 02 21:51:20 <orangemoore>   Al did win VoY
  1729. May 02 21:51:30 <pwnagenick>    Al is so awesome
  1730. May 02 21:51:30 <anupamgoli>    FF is doable
  1731. May 02 21:51:32 <spencer_tickman>       we need shaniqua from einstien
  1732. May 02 21:51:33 <pwnagenick>    great to talk too
  1733. May 02 21:51:38 <pwnagenick>    best inspector ever
  1734. May 02 21:51:38 <anupamgoli>    We constantly improve and iterate our spreadsheet
  1735. May 02 21:51:41 <frankmerrick7> I can ask Blair, I'll bet he would come on.  Maybe not for strategy, but he's my go-to guy at FIRST for many things
  1736. May 02 21:51:41 <quicksilverblitz>      do some features on various MCs/announcers
  1737. May 02 21:51:42 <metonyms>      @spencer ...no just no
  1738. May 02 21:51:44 <anupamgoli>    but doing actual predictions down tot he alliances is tough
  1739. May 02 21:51:46 <david2485>     Wuz joak
  1740. May 02 21:51:51 <pwnagenick>    we're so lucky to have him at Central Illinois and midwest every year
  1741. May 02 21:51:55 <david2485>     I'm ware of this
  1742. May 02 21:51:57 <david2485>     aware*
  1743. May 02 21:52:11 <david2485>     I was kidding lol
  1744. May 02 21:52:23 <gregor_browning>       Sir Charles <3
  1745. May 02 21:52:30 <metonyms>      Who is Sir Charles?
  1746. May 02 21:52:31 <david2485>     Get The Hat as a guest
  1747. May 02 21:52:45 <gregor_browning>       Sir charles vid
  1748. May 02 21:52:49 <fritofloyd>    what about a funnel cake?
  1749. May 02 21:52:53 <pwnagenick>    oh my god that video is the best
  1750. May 02 21:52:53 <gregor_browning>       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54KG94wJvmc&list=PL385DD2A31081788D&index=5
  1751. May 02 21:53:21 <frankmerrick7> Writing the script for Al's VOY award was a breeze - it wrote itself.  So totally deserving.
  1752. May 02 21:53:31 <spectrum3847>  I'd watch chairman's stuff, I love chairman's stuff
  1753. May 02 21:53:45 <david2485>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyVkyakC6xk
  1754. May 02 21:54:07 <geeksquad94>   Hat Hat Hat
  1755. May 02 21:54:09 <frankmerrick7> We need to go to 1AM, please.
  1756. May 02 21:54:12 <pwnagenick>    Gimme my hat
  1757. May 02 21:54:15 <metonyms>      @Gregor,  I don't get it. He is barely talking
  1758. May 02 21:54:34 <gregor_browning>       There's also a beautiful 2004 match of Sir Charles.  Lets see if I can find it.  
  1759. May 02 21:54:36 <metonyms>      Oh wait, this is awesome
  1760. May 02 21:54:44 <electronica1_> Thanks Frank for being so awesome!!!
  1761. May 02 21:54:45 <pwnagenick>    and the video of THE HAT
  1762. May 02 21:54:52 <metonyms>      YES PLEASE CAN WE GET HIM?
  1763. May 02 21:54:55 <frankmerrick7> What did you guys think of the Einstein matches?  
  1764. May 02 21:54:57 <geeksquad94>   its 10pm on a friday. not that late
  1765. May 02 21:54:57 <anupamgoli>    Navid
  1766. May 02 21:55:00 <geeksquad94>   EPIC
  1767. May 02 21:55:00 <rahul469>      If we're kinda on this topic anyway, favorite matches ever? xD
  1768. May 02 21:55:02 <geeksquad94>   they were amazing
  1769. May 02 21:55:04 <anupamgoli>    taht one night we stayed up til 8 am
  1770. May 02 21:55:08 <david2485>     Yup
  1771. May 02 21:55:10 <spencer_tickman>       stephanie froze
  1772. May 02 21:55:20 <spectrum3847>  Einstein matches were very good
  1773. May 02 21:55:29 <pwnagenick>    i think we all do it
  1774. May 02 21:55:34 <hallry1676>    Webcast quality for them could've been better.
  1775. May 02 21:55:35 <gregor_browning>       Hey Rahul remember when we stayed up until 7 am on a hangout doing IRI predictions.  
  1776. May 02 21:55:39 <pwnagenick>    friday nights staying up talking robots is best
  1777. May 02 21:55:47 <electronica1_> Einstein was pretty cool this year, but the time between matches kind of killed the action in my opinion, do you need such a long time out between matches if you have a back up team?
  1778. May 02 21:55:53 <rahul469>      Gregor, I don't because us staying up that late is almost normal. :P
  1779. May 02 21:56:03 <david2485>     EXACTLY
  1780. May 02 21:56:08 <pwnagenick>    yeah that D in einstein
  1781. May 02 21:56:11 <spencer_tickman>       SHANIQUA!!
  1782. May 02 21:56:12 <hallry1676>    Hey Rahul, remember when you were supposed to do a live prediction show for WCMP this yea- oh, wait...
  1783. May 02 21:56:12 <david2485>     This Einstein was AMAZING
  1784. May 02 21:56:16 <frankmerrick7> "Less talk, more rock"
  1785. May 02 21:56:25 <wdoherty>      Do we like Einstein more because of the problems we had everywhere else, though?
  1786. May 02 21:56:26 <rahul469>      Ryan, there's a story behind that. Me not showing up was intentional. :P
  1787. May 02 21:56:28 <metonyms>      @Spencer NO
  1788. May 02 21:56:33 <hallry1676>    haha really?
  1789. May 02 21:56:36 <pwnagenick>    yeah way to go Rahul :P
  1790. May 02 21:56:52 <metonyms>      #needsmoreconfetti
  1791. May 02 21:56:56 <frankmerrick7> "Less confetti, more rock!"
  1792. May 02 21:57:04 <justinmca>     I felt bad for the people who had to clean confetti out of the poofs robot
  1793. May 02 21:57:05 <gregor_browning>       Rahul I'm screenshotting that for Pauline
  1794. May 02 21:57:15 <hallry1676>    Less confetti, more corndogs
  1795. May 02 21:57:19 <rahul469>      She knows already, lol
  1796. May 02 21:57:19 <david2485>     Yeah no.
  1797. May 02 21:57:23 <hallry1676>    Did not like the entertainers.
  1798. May 02 21:57:27 <electronica1_> "Less paper airplanes, more rock"
  1799. May 02 21:57:37 <fritofloyd>    UGH Will I Am this year just didn't do it for me
  1800. May 02 21:57:38 <geeksquad94>   yeah the mixing for the live performers was not great
  1801. May 02 21:57:44 <david2485>     Same number of paper airplanes, more rock
  1802. May 02 21:57:50 <pwnagenick>    nooooooo
  1803. May 02 21:57:50 <metonyms>      Less Rock
  1804. May 02 21:57:52 <david2485>     Well, none during speeches/announcements
  1805. May 02 21:57:53 <electronica1_> wait, did no one ask Frank about the paper airplanes?
  1806. May 02 21:57:56 <metonyms>      Rachel Crow?
  1807. May 02 21:58:06 <hallry1676>    "guitar lady"
  1808. May 02 21:58:08 <metonyms>      the desk is always good, but less Shaniqua
  1809. May 02 21:58:12 <frankmerrick7> I hear you - more FRC related fill
  1810. May 02 21:58:20 <gregor_browning>       Yes her name was Rachel Crow.  
  1811. May 02 21:58:23 <anupamgoli>    shots fired?
  1812. May 02 21:58:28 <metonyms>      Her song was meh
  1813. May 02 21:58:29 <spencer_tickman>       paper airplane competition
  1814. May 02 21:58:32 <frankmerrick7> There was a lady with a guitar?
  1815. May 02 21:58:32 <anupamgoli>    blanks fired*
  1816. May 02 21:58:32 <david2485>     Yeah I'd never heard of her and in the stands we were all saying "who are you" and then she said "we're gonna be playing the song Who We Are" and we all cracked up
  1817. May 02 21:58:41 <metonyms>      Boeing does that Spencer
  1818. May 02 21:58:48 <pwnagenick>    yeah seriously the desk stuff is awesome
  1819. May 02 21:58:48 <pwnagenick>    #shotsfired
  1820. May 02 21:58:48 <metonyms>      @david LOL
  1821. May 02 21:58:48 <spectrum3847>  I liked the desk but it must be weird for the teams down there to hear someone else analyzing their match right after they played it
  1822. May 02 21:58:50 <david2485>     Awkward moment when she cuts out while talking about video quality
  1823. May 02 21:59:01 <frcgamesense>  #comcaststrikesagain
  1824. May 02 21:59:09 <francis190>    Its the superbowl of smorts - Navid
  1825. May 02 21:59:13 <david2485>     Take that hat!
  1826. May 02 21:59:26 <metonyms>      #needmoresmorts
  1827. May 02 21:59:26 <gregor_browning>       Hat Hat Hat!
  1828. May 02 21:59:32 <metonyms>      Evan is broken
  1829. May 02 21:59:34 <electronica1_> Wait, I think i got it, next years game will involve the human player throwing a paper airplane, that is why we can't have people throwing paper airplanes on Einsteins
  1830. May 02 21:59:34 <david2485>     Where's my hat?
  1831. May 02 21:59:34 <fritofloyd>    @Frank the lady with the guitar was the teenager girl singing with the older man playing the guitar
  1832. May 02 21:59:36 <david2485>     Oh there it is
  1833. May 02 21:59:39 <cbmcbride>     the hat delivers us
  1834. May 02 21:59:42 <david2485>     Gotta put on my hat
  1835. May 02 21:59:45 <david2485>     I feel better now
  1836. May 02 21:59:46 <anupamgoli>    this is #whywedontwinworlds
  1837. May 02 21:59:49 <metonyms>      NEED MORE HAT
  1838. May 02 21:59:51 <wdoherty>      Aaaaaaaaand midnight
  1839. May 02 21:59:52 <anupamgoli>    NEEDS MORE HAT
  1840. May 02 22:00:01 <david2485>     Found the hat!
  1841. May 02 22:00:05 <david2485>     It's better now!
  1842. May 02 22:00:08 <frankmerrick7> I'll be honest, I like a mix between 'polish' and 'real'.  A little more Rolling Stones, a little less One Direction.
  1843. May 02 22:00:09 <anupamgoli>    he needs a hat
  1844. May 02 22:00:12 <metonyms>      So Frank is still awake @ 1AM? Damn we must be awesome
  1845. May 02 22:00:29 <pwnagenick>    steph and frank are both basically frozen
  1846. May 02 22:00:41 <anupamgoli>    stop streaming netflizx
  1847. May 02 22:00:41 <hallry1676>    Man, Frank just gets more and more awesome.
  1848. May 02 22:00:41 <electronica1_> So Frank, are they doing a FIRST movie?
  1849. May 02 22:00:46 <metonyms>      I WANT TO HELP MAKE IT!
  1850. May 02 22:00:53 <david2485>     They totally need to do a FIRST movie.
  1851. May 02 22:01:01 <pwnagenick>    steph and evan*
  1852. May 02 22:01:02 <david2485>     OH MY GOD THAT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE
  1853. May 02 22:01:02 <fritofloyd>    One thing, how did you guys feel about the remixes that the FIRST people made? I personally thought that they were meh
  1854. May 02 22:01:05 <david2485>     THAT SOUNDS SO COOL
  1855. May 02 22:01:07 <david2485>     HOLY CRAP
  1856. May 02 22:01:07 <metonyms>      Come on, someone hire me. I need money
  1857. May 02 22:01:11 <david2485>     you mean the mashups?
  1858. May 02 22:01:16 <rahul469>      Lol the ties.
  1859. May 02 22:01:23 <frankmerrick7> Live thunderstruck = Awesome
  1860. May 02 22:01:26 <david2485>     People need to stop mashing up multiple awesome songs and making terrible songs.
  1861. May 02 22:01:43 <cbmcbride>     someone should hire Sexy Sax Man
  1862. May 02 22:01:47 <anupamgoli>    You know what song they should play for the einstein intros? This:
  1863. May 02 22:01:48 <david2485>     YES
  1864. May 02 22:01:51 <anupamgoli>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9FImc2LOr8
  1865. May 02 22:02:03 <david2485>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoLU6zKaws
  1866. May 02 22:02:19 <spectrum3847>  that was the first time I saw FRC, got me hooked at the age of 8
  1867. May 02 22:02:28 <david2485>     You're cutting again
  1868. May 02 22:02:36 <spectrum3847>  went to a HS across town to be able to be on a team
  1869. May 02 22:02:38 <anupamgoli>    Einstein needs more space jam
  1870. May 02 22:02:38 <metonyms>      @spencer printed it
  1871. May 02 22:02:39 <quicksilverblitz>      Anupam - yes.
  1872. May 02 22:02:51 <david2485>     Champs should be on ESPN.
  1873. May 02 22:02:55 <metonyms>      #comeonandslam
  1874. May 02 22:02:55 <david2485>     Seriously
  1875. May 02 22:03:08 <metonyms>      #andwelcometothejam
  1876. May 02 22:03:25 <david2485>     Lololololol that's so good
  1877. May 02 22:03:37 <frankmerrick7> Nothing better than this, though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb_hqexKkw8\
  1878. May 02 22:03:42 <metonyms>      #somethingsomethingcomcast
  1879. May 02 22:03:49 <geeksquad94>   FRANK!!!!
  1880. May 02 22:03:50 <anupamgoli>    I love you Frank
  1881. May 02 22:03:54 <pwnagenick>    oh no Frank just rick rolled us all
  1882. May 02 22:03:55 <david2485>     I hate you Frank
  1883. May 02 22:03:56 <gregor_browning>       I just got rickrolled by frank
  1884. May 02 22:03:59 <spectrum3847>  frank
  1885. May 02 22:04:00 <devenstonow>   Wow
  1886. May 02 22:04:01 <gregor_browning>       my life is complete
  1887. May 02 22:04:01 <anupamgoli>    life complete?
  1888. May 02 22:04:02 <spectrum3847>  WHAT
  1889. May 02 22:04:03 <metonyms>      NO WE NEED TO GO LONGER
  1890. May 02 22:04:04 <david2485>     By which I mean I love you frank
  1891. May 02 22:04:11 <rahul469>      Frank killed it
  1892. May 02 22:04:12 <metonyms>      OH GOD
  1893. May 02 22:04:12 <justinmca>     whelp
  1894. May 02 22:04:17 <metonyms>      Frank did it
  1895. May 02 22:04:22 <metonyms>      he fuckign did it
  1896. May 02 22:04:22 <david2485>     I love you so much frank
  1897. May 02 22:04:28 <hallry1676>    GUEZ ITZ A GAME HINT
  1898. May 02 22:04:28 <david2485>     You are a golden god
  1899. May 02 22:04:29 <electronica1_> Frank has spoken
  1900. May 02 22:04:31 <spectrum3847>  night everyone
  1901. May 02 22:04:31 <1983navidshafa>        Thanks guys <3
  1902. May 02 22:04:34 <david2485>     CLRLY
  1903. May 02 22:04:35 <frankmerrick7> OK, thanks guys, this was awesome.  Gotta go to bed now, I'm an old man, and it's 1AM!
  1904. May 02 22:04:35 <metonyms>      bye
  1905. May 02 22:04:37 <geeksquad94>   thank you all
  1906. May 02 22:04:38 <devenstonow>   Frank just did that
  1907. May 02 22:04:39 <spencer_tickman>       THANKS!
  1908. May 02 22:04:42 <rahul469>      Good night everyone!
  1909. May 02 22:04:42 <francis190>    Aloha yall!
  1910. May 02 22:04:43 <david2485>     Thank you so much Frnak
  1911. May 02 22:04:44 <mman1506>      yay thanks
  1912. May 02 22:04:47 <david2485>     Frnak*
  1913. May 02 22:04:47 <qwoptillyoudrop>       bye!
  1914. May 02 22:04:48 <david2485>     Frank*
  1915. May 02 22:04:50 <gregor_browning>       Please come back!
  1916. May 02 22:04:50 <david2485>     Wow I can type
  1917. May 02 22:04:50 <1983navidshafa>        #FrankRolled
  1918. May 02 22:04:51 <geeksquad94>   hopefully i can get off the list :D
  1919. May 02 22:04:53 <pwnagenick>    Frank now you have to get us all corndogs next year
  1920. May 02 22:04:57 <david2485>     You are actually an amazing person
  1921. May 02 22:04:58 <electronica1_> Thanks
  1922. May 02 22:05:21 <mman1506>      throw corndogs instead of paper airplanes
  1923. May 02 22:05:34 <gregor_browning>       yes marcus^
  1924. May 02 22:05:37 <anupamgoli>    Alright
  1925. May 02 22:05:45 <anupamgoli>    I found my team's new offseason project: Corndog cannon
  1926. May 02 22:05:49 <david2485>     Yup.
  1927. May 02 22:05:50 <anupamgoli>    T-shirt cannons are so overrated
  1928. May 02 22:05:55 <david2485>     Done.
  1929. May 02 22:05:59 <electronica1_> good night, thanks game sense for an awesome webcast, and thanks again Frank for being awesome!
  1930. May 02 22:06:02 <david2485>     Surprised Shockwave's not a corn dog cannon, actually
  1931. May 02 22:06:21 <david2485>     Don't think I've ever actually gotten this far in the song
  1932. May 02 22:06:27 <david2485>     It's weird
  1933. May 02 22:06:29 <anupamgoli>    Hey Dave and Navid, can you get the guy behind those stinkwerkz videos to have one with a robot shooting corndogs?
  1934. May 02 22:06:38 <pwnagenick>    i love that this is still live
  1935. May 02 22:06:39 <frcgamesense>  Will see what I can do :P
  1936. May 02 22:06:50 <geeksquad94>   NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
  1937. May 02 22:06:50 <anupamgoli>    [mlg]NOSCOP CORNDOG[[2DOGAUTO]
  1938. May 02 22:06:55 <frcgamesense>  lulz
  1939. May 02 22:07:04 <frcgamesense>  Thank you guys so much for an awesome season. :)
  1940. May 02 22:07:13 <wdoherty>      How many other programs have a director who actively trolls? Frank, you're the best
  1941. May 02 22:07:16 <gregor_browning>       http://puu.sh/8x2rW.png
  1942. May 02 22:08:09 <pwnagenick>    thus ends the season
  1943. May 02 22:08:20 <pwnagenick>    also how are there still 46 viewers on here
  1944. May 02 22:08:40 <david2485>     Because we're awesome
  1945. May 02 22:08:42 <david2485>     Lol
  1946. May 02 22:09:06 <wdoherty>      Well, out of the thousands of people in first, some of them have to be crazy enough to do this
  1947. May 02 22:09:17 <david2485>     Most*
  1948. May 02 22:09:26 <david2485>     Obviously
  1949. May 02 22:09:27 <gregor_browning>       It takes a special kind of person to still be here
  1950. May 02 22:09:36 <david2485>     A FIRSTer, specifically
  1951. May 02 22:10:11 <pwnagenick>    ive just been CADing while doing this all night
  1952. May 02 22:10:14 <wdoherty>      Its a way to deal with robotics withdrawl
  1953. May 02 22:10:33 <david2485>     Water corn dog gameMake a water bot entirely out of corn dogs
  1954. May 02 22:11:11 <electronica1_> next years game, paper airplane game, which is why they cant have people throwing them at champs
  1955. May 02 22:11:15 <1983navidshafa>        Goodnight everybody, go to sleep. Keep in touch <3
  1956. May 02 22:12:20 <wdoherty>      Alright...'till IRI, everyone....
  1957. May 02 22:13:43 <pwnagenick>    still at 46..
  1958. May 02 22:22:27 <anupamgoli>    sleep is for the weak
  1959. May 02 22:26:28 <frcgamesense>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ywsQG4kFVA
  1960. May 02 22:27:37 <hallry1676>    is it still at 46?
  1961. May 02 22:27:48 <frcgamesense>  Think it is stuck lol
  1962. May 02 22:29:15 <electronica1_> 46 people are still in shock from the rickroll
  1963. May 02 22:29:53 <frcgamesense>  lu
  1964. May 02 22:29:55 <frcgamesense>  lul*
  1965. May 02 22:30:37 <anupamgoli>    i have the tab open in the background
  1966. May 02 22:30:48 <anupamgoli>    i'm very lazy about tabs. taht's what 16 GBs of RAM is for
  1967. May 02 22:31:50 <anupamgoli>    im also lazy and don't want to pack, even though I have to move out in 10 hours
  1968. May 02 23:57:56 Update Checker plugin unloaded
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