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how 4chans limitations has nuked half of the boards

a guest Nov 25th, 2015 7 Never
  1. (14:02:32) +duanemoody: "final user experience"?
  2. (14:03:00) +duanemoody: my commitment to making everything run in ajax is minimal
  3. (14:03:28) +duanemoody: there's a limit on how much screen scraping i'm gonna do
  4. (14:04:09) +nikka: suddenly most of the boards killed
  5. (14:04:14) +duanemoody: wat
  6. (14:04:41) +duanemoody: /co/'s stil there
  7. (14:04:55) +duanemoody: so's /tv/
  8. (14:05:20) +duanemoody: nikka, define "most"
  9. (14:05:28) +yetsturdy: more than half.
  10. (14:05:34) +nikka: ....
  11. (14:06:00) +duanemoody: i'm getting catalog views
  12. (14:06:04) +duanemoody: maybe i'm hitting the wrong ones
  13. (14:08:08) +duanemoody: linke me some dead boards
  14. (14:08:27) +nikka: you know what i mean stop being silly duane
  15. (14:08:39) +duanemoody: i don't
  16. (14:08:52) +duanemoody: what do you mean "killed"
  17. (14:09:04) +duanemoody: i assumed that meant "posts all gone"
  18. (14:09:11) +duanemoody: or "can't view"
  19. (14:11:17) +nikka: i mean gifocaust
  20. (14:12:07) +duanemoody: i assume something nasty was being embedded in GIFs and the site code was being tweaked to intercept it
  21. (14:12:34) +duanemoody: and it somehow backfired with false positives
  22. (14:12:40) +nikka: not tech tech guy som yeah
  23. (14:13:05) +duanemoody: i do notice that /tv/ stopped trying to embed movies into JPEGs
  24. (14:17:15) +duanemoody: who janitors /po/
  25. (14:21:12) +yetsturdy: the best you can do for filtering images with embedded files is to blacklist different methods of doing it.
  26. (14:21:19) +yetsturdy: and it's NEVER going to be perfect.
  27. (14:21:21) +yetsturdy: no matter what.
  28. (14:21:45) +duanemoody: i don't think anyone assumed a perfect method was being attempted, just a particular filter
  29. (14:22:04) +yetsturdy: yeah, and clearly it's one that has a lot of false positives.
  30. (14:22:08) +AoC: I knew the public with hunt over sound threads would end badly
  31. (14:22:13) +yetsturdy: which implies that it was trying to be broad and went too far.
  32. (14:22:26) +AoC: wish I could go back to the days "open in winrar" was easy and expected
  33. (14:22:43) +yetsturdy: i mean, an image is just fucking bytes
  34. (14:22:45) +nikka: i blame aoc for this happening
  35. (14:22:52) +yetsturdy: there's headers and file formats and shit but in the end it's just data.
  36. (14:22:56) +yetsturdy: you cannot stop it.
  37. (14:23:12) +yetsturdy: best you can do is heuristics.
  38. (14:23:22) +AoC: you're right for once nikka, I coded the first 4chanSounds script
  39. (14:23:25) +fsdfdsf: I have purchased my mobo, processor & tower
  40. (14:23:27) +AoC: heh, not really
  41. (14:23:36) +duanemoody: well considering most image file formats are either extensible or designed to ignore spurious appendages
  42. (14:23:57) +duanemoody: thank adobe for this
  43. (14:24:01) +yetsturdy: even if it's not, you can always do steganography.
  44. (14:24:15) +yetsturdy: if you even care about making something that doesn't look suspicious.
  45. (14:24:28) +duanemoody: man when i see the same image being reposted daily and i know it's got different MD5s I get paranoid it's actually steg
  46. (14:24:43) +yetsturdy: probably is
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