- [11:17] <@kairos> im sure a CERTAIN SOMEONE COUGH ORANJE could upload that map to a CERTAIN SERVER
- [11:17] <@kairos> COUGH
- [11:17] <@kairos> ORANJE
- [11:17] <@KittenIgnition> "that map"?
- [11:18] <@KittenIgnition> i asked for wub maps
- [11:18] <@KittenIgnition> mapS
- [11:18] <@KittenIgnition> multiple maps
- [11:18] <@kairos> i know
- 00[11:18] <@nzm> FUCKING IDIOT
- 00[11:18] <@nzm> KAIROS
- [11:18] <@kairos> but "that map" is the best one
- [11:18] <@kairos> also fuck you nzm
- [11:18] <@kairos> before youre an asshole
- 00[11:18] <@nzm> so dumb
- 00[11:18] <@nzm> lool
- [11:19] <@kairos> oh look shio tv is on
- [11:19] <@kairos> brb 5.9.23.54:27961
- 00[11:19] <@nzm> !Q3 5.9.23.54:27961
- [11:19] <@echbotcpm> Q3FFA(defrag) on 3qportal 5Players:123/324 (0:20053X,0:Celtic,0:wut) Timelimit:0
- 00[11:19] <@nzm> shio sux
- 00[11:19] <@nzm> garbage player
- [11:20] <@kairos> come here and say taht to his face
- [11:20] <@kairos> i will laugh so hard
- 00[11:20] <@nzm> why should he care
- 00[11:20] <@nzm> kairos i am above everyone in my skill area
- 00[11:20] <@nzm> i do not suck other ppls dicks
- 00[11:20] <@nzm> becuz i am best at what i do
- [11:20] <@kairos> paradoxial considering youre the best at sucking dicks
- 00[11:21] <@nzm> I never denied it
- [11:21] <@kairos> <nzm> i do not suck other ppls dicks
- [11:21] <@kairos> <nzm> i do not suck other ppls dicks
- [11:21] <@kairos> <nzm> i do not suck other ppls dicks
- [11:21] <@kairos> <nzm> i do not suck other ppls dicks
- [11:21] <@kairos> <nzm> i do not suck other ppls dicks
- 00[11:21] <@nzm> your interest in the subject however is i
- 00[11:21] <@nzm> intriguing
- [11:21] <@kairos> its more of a concern
- [11:22] <@kairos> i dont want my favorite nzm getting herpes
- 00[11:22] <@nzm> no but rly there's like nobody in my field who I look up to and suck his dick and say hey omfg he's playing right now
- 00[11:22] <@nzm> i thought u were good at defrag
- 00[11:22] <@nzm> i was lead to believe this entire time
- 00[11:22] <@nzm> kairos was like some godly figure in the realm of defrag
- 00[11:23] <@nzm> now i know the truth
- 00[11:23] <@nzm> exposed.com
- 00[11:23] <@nzm> 2012
- 00[11:23] <@nzm> -nzm
- 00[11:23] <@nzm> chief of operations
- [11:23] <@kairos> great job you found me out
- [11:23] <@kairos> turns out im NOT god
- [11:23] <@KittenIgnition> shio is the best defragger in teh world though :/
- [11:23] <@kairos> i hardly believe it myself
- [11:23] <@KittenIgnition> it's an honor to suck his dick
- [11:23] <@kairos> ill be sure to read all about this article on your blog that nobody reads
- 00[11:27] <@nzm> wtf
- 00[11:27] <@nzm> this guys is garbage
- 00[11:27] <@nzm> can't even strafe jump properly
- 00[11:27] <@nzm> running into walls n shit
- 00[11:27] <@nzm> ROFL
- 00[11:27] <@nzm> i'm officially done with defrag
- [11:27] <@kairos> nzm try to beat this map
- 00[11:27] <@nzm> if this is the best u got to offer
- 00[11:27] <@nzm> ur best defragger runs into walls
- 00[11:28] <@nzm> Loooooooooool
- [11:28] <@oranje> wow
- [11:28] <@kairos> srsly nzm
- [11:28] <@oranje> never seen nzm like this
- [11:28] <@oranje> so sad
- 00[11:28] <@nzm> 10yrs of movement practice and he can't even strafe by a wall
- 00[11:28] <@nzm> no rly i am not impressed
- 00[11:28] <@nzm> in the least bit
- [11:28] <@kairos> oh really oranje
- [11:28] <@kairos> to me? this is sunday
- [11:28] <@kairos> nzm is normal
- 00[11:28] <@nzm> ya i'm kinda bored trolling this now
- 00[11:28] <@nzm> see what else is on my schedule today
- [11:29] <@kairos> oh look more fail trolling
- 00[11:30] <@nzm> I dunno man I have a tough time differentiating what's skill and what's just trial and error in defrag
- 00[11:30] <@nzm> like where's the line
- 00[11:30] <@nzm> seems like ppl just keep trying same shit over and over for 10hrs then they finally make it
- 00[11:30] <@nzm> and they're like
- 00[11:30] <@nzm> AMAZING
- 00[11:30] <@nzm> ya no shit cuz it took u 10hrs
- [11:31] <@kairos> lol
- [11:31] <@oranje> nzm
- [11:31] <@kairos> you clearly dont understand the concept
- [11:31] <@kairos> oranje dont bother
- [11:31] <@oranje> shh
- [11:31] <@oranje> i'll explain it to him
- [11:31] <@kairos> gl
- [11:31] <@oranje> i personally love maps that are long and/or hard
- 00[11:31] <@nzm> I dunno when i go spec like there's amazing players like shio and see them faulting a lot
- [11:31] <@oranje> because they're hard to do consistently
- 00[11:31] <@nzm> makes no sense to me
- 00[11:31] <@nzm> like
- 00[11:31] <@nzm> what are u getting out of this if u still suck 10yrs later
- [11:31] <@oranje> exactly
- [11:32] <@oranje> that portal map is really hard
- [11:32] <@kairos> ^
- [11:32] <@oranje> i don't think i actually finished it once
- 00[11:32] <@nzm> these*
- [11:32] <@kairos> i finished it barely under an hour
- [11:32] <@oranje> you see those crappy maps
- [11:32] <@kairos> i havent bothered any else
- [11:32] <@oranje> that are like 5 seconds
- [11:32] <@oranje> anyone can do those
- [11:32] <@oranje> just repeat the same thing over and over until you get a time better by 1 frame
- [11:32] <@oranje> but consistency is really hard
- [11:32] <@oranje> because you have to be good overall
- 00[11:33] <@nzm> I dunno man I go spec shio this great player and 10secs in he's running into walls
- 00[11:33] <@nzm> I thought this guy was mastery of movement
- 00[11:33] <@nzm> Lol
- [11:33] <@oranje> yeah you said that 3 times already
- 00[11:33] <@nzm> dunno
- 00[11:33] <@nzm> u guys have fun though i love u all
- [11:33] <@oranje> if you're not going to listen to what we say, then why ask
- 00[11:33] <@nzm> oranje gets really emo about defrag
- [11:34] <@oranje> :/
- [11:34] <@oranje> w/e
- [11:34] <@kairos> nzm go back to snorkeling in your buckets of cowshit and walgreens magazines
- 00[11:34] <@nzm> I get defrag I'm just hatering on it but I was srs about the running into wall shit
- 00[11:34] <@nzm> that's sad
- 00[11:34] <@nzm> Lol
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- 00[11:36] <@nzm> so how is skill judged in defrag
- 00[11:36] <@nzm> is there a skill tier
- 00[11:36] <@nzm> cause
- 00[11:36] <@nzm> like what if one guy does a record
- 00[11:36] <@nzm> but another guy beats it
- 00[11:36] <@nzm> but it took the 2nd guy 10x longer to do it
- 00[11:36] <@nzm> like who's better
- 00[11:36] <@nzm> the 1st guy or 2nd
- [11:36] <@kairos> you look at overall rankings tbh
- [11:36] <@kairos> and you watch the players
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- 00[11:37] <@nzm> so duration of how long it took you to complete the record has nothing to do with it
- [11:37] <@kairos> you can pretty much tell who is better regardless of their ranking anyway
- [11:37] <@kairos> not entirely, nzm
- [11:37] <@kairos> sometimes yes
- 00[11:37] <@nzm> if I wanted to take 10yrs on 1 map to beat someone's record and finally accomplish it 10yrs later
- 00[11:37] <@nzm> it's still good job?
- [11:37] <@kairos> yeah thats a very good job
- 00[11:37] <@nzm> LOOOOOOL
- [11:37] <@kairos> because that means you had the skill to do it
- [11:37] <@kairos> now its sad as hell that you would do that
- [11:37] <@kairos> but you had the skill to accomplish it
- [11:37] <@kairos> so gj
- 00[11:37] <@nzm> it's really just competing against yourself
- [11:37] <@oranje> <nzm> if I wanted to take 10yrs on 1 map to beat someone's record and finally accomplish it 10yrs later
- [11:38] <@oranje> coming from a guy who plays 3 ctf maps all his life
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> but idiots created these time records etc websites
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> basically ruining defrag
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> ?
- [11:38] <@kairos> ROFL
- [11:38] <@oranje> anyways i'm done
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> like i'm trying to figure out the competition of defrag
- [11:38] <@kairos> nzm how about this
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> it's turned into this comp of time records etc right
- [11:38] <@oranje> nzm if you have any more df questions don't ask me
- [11:38] <@kairos> play defrag for a whole month
- [11:38] <@kairos> with me and oranje
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> but to me the duration of how long you spend on a map to complete the record
- [11:38] <@kairos> and then with the others
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> matters
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> to me
- [11:38] <@kairos> it does matter
- 00[11:38] <@nzm> I dunno shouldn't that factor in with your time or somethin
- [11:39] <@kairos> well sure, but i wouldnt put it in a ranking
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> there should be FULL amount of time for maps you play
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> not these reset records
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> like the ENTIRE length of time you spend on the map
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> is your time
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> period
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> that'S REAL DEFRAG
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> SON
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> i'm coming out with a mod
- 00[11:39] <@nzm> bbl
- [11:40] <@kairos> lol no
- [11:40] <@kairos> that would be retarded
- 00[11:40] <@nzm> well I'm trying to figure out the true degree of raw skill
- 00[11:40] <@nzm> not this /kill try for 10hrs practice shit
- 00[11:40] <@nzm> TRUE GAMERS
- [11:41] <@kairos> tbh thats kinda what the DFWC does
- 00[11:41] <@nzm> I knew someone else was smart enough to come up with this shit
- [11:41] <@kairos> it gives you a set amount of time to complete a map with the fastest time
- 00[11:41] <@nzm> what's dfwc
- [11:41] <@kairos> defrag world cup
- 00[11:41] <@nzm> yeah I like that idea better
- [11:41] <@kairos> too bad we might not have those anymore, or so it seems
- [11:41] <@kairos> but dont take my word on that
- [11:41] <@kairos> oranje do you think we'll ever have another dfwc?
- [11:42] <@oranje> i'll be happy if we have that update
- 00[11:42] <@nzm> apparently he was done with this about 10mins ago
- 00[11:42] <@nzm> so u guys don't have a problem with duration of how long it takes ppl to complete records
- [11:42] <@kairos> im pretty sure dfwc could happen with df192 update
- 00[11:42] <@nzm> they stand regardless
- [11:42] <@kairos> sometimes it matters nzm
- [11:42] <@kairos> for instance
- [11:43] <@kairos> i could beat shio on qportal if he didnt try to beat his current record
- [11:43] <@kairos> it would take me FOREVER
- [11:43] <@kairos> but i could do it
- [11:43] <@kairos> however
- [11:43] <@kairos> shio is clearly the better player
- [11:43] <@kairos> so yes it does matter
- [11:43] <@kairos> it just depends
- 00[11:43] <@nzm> I think they should just do raw timelimits once u enter game your time starts
- 00[11:43] <@nzm> if you disconnect and leave
- 00[11:43] <@nzm> come back next day
- 00[11:43] <@nzm> spawn into game
- 00[11:43] <@nzm> your timer is back at the same time u left
- 00[11:43] <@nzm> etc
- 00[11:43] <@nzm> holla
- 00[11:44] <@nzm> until u beat the map
- [11:44] <@kairos> thats terrible
- 00[11:44] <@nzm> makes more sense to me
- 00[11:44] <@nzm> in a competition setting
- 00[11:45] <@nzm> I can get playing by yourself and going for your own time records etc
- 00[11:45] <@nzm> but when it's open competition I think the duration of how long it takes to complete a record should matter
- 00[11:45] <@nzm> no?
- [11:45] <@kairos> hm well
- [11:46] <@kairos> oranje you arent off the hook yet
- [11:46] <@kairos> help me explain
- [11:46] <@oranje> fuck no
- [11:46] <@oranje> topics not to talk to nzm about: defrag
- [11:46] <@oranje> this shit is official now
- [11:46] <@kairos> hes trying to be reasonable at least
- 00[11:46] <@nzm> cuz if shio can do a record in like 20seconds that probably took him 1minute to complete fully
- 00[11:46] <@nzm> and kairos spends 2yrs trying to beat the record
- 00[11:46] <@nzm> beats it
- 00[11:46] <@nzm> kairos isn't the better player cuz he beat the record
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> cuz it took him 2 fucking yrs
- [11:47] <@kairos> thats true
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> in my opinion
- [11:47] <@kairos> thats very true
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> that's what i'm getting at here folks
- [11:47] <@kairos> i agree with you
- [11:47] <@oranje> i tried explaining df to him reasonably before
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> jesus christ
- [11:47] <@kairos> yes nzm i went over this
- [11:47] <@oranje> he just pretends to be trolling or calls me emo
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> like how the fuck do you know actually who's better
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- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> sometimes it matters nzm
- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> for instance
- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> i could beat shio on qportal if he didnt try to beat his current record
- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> it would take me FOREVER
- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> but i could do it
- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> however
- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> shio is clearly the better player
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> if they don't tell you how long it took them to complete the record in the 1st place
- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> so yes it does matter
- [11:47] <@kairos> <kairos> it just depends
- [11:47] <@kairos> you know whos better by PLAYING AGAINST THEM and WATCHING THEM
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> THIS IS MADNESS
- [11:47] <@kairos> you learn from experience
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> I guess when you take an FPS shooter and turn it into happy bouncy time
- 00[11:47] <@nzm> this is what u get
- [11:48] <@kairos> lol you truely are ignorant
- 00[11:49] <@nzm> where's the ignorance
- 00[11:49] <@nzm> I see irony in turning fps shooter into movement game
- 00[11:50] <@nzm> that's all
- [11:50] <@kairos> oh god
- [11:50] <@kairos> my lungs
- [11:50] <@kairos> they hurt
- [11:50] <@kairos> oranje help me
- [11:50] <@kairos> laughter is painful
- [11:50] <@oranje> no
- [11:50] <@oranje> fuck off
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