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  1. [19:08] == RD [webchat@ool-44c75dd5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #traincraft
  2. [19:08] == kuroneko [~kuroneko@mc24036d0.tmodns.net] has joined #traincraft
  3. [19:09] == kuroneko [~kuroneko@mc24036d0.tmodns.net] has left #traincraft []
  4. [19:10] <RD> So let me ask you guys one question. If your not gonna allow anyone to ask those questions, what the hell is the point of all this? If we need info, the wiki and the forum serve fine.
  5. [19:10] <DV8FromTheWorld> RD, i didnt write the topic
  6. [19:10] <DV8FromTheWorld> not begging to be a tester makes sense
  7. [19:11] <DV8FromTheWorld> not asking for a release date makes sense
  8. [19:11] <DV8FromTheWorld> not spamming makes sense
  9. [19:11] <RD> all stuff you can find on the forum.....
  10. [19:11] <DV8FromTheWorld> If we need testing done, we can give instruction
  11. [19:11] <DV8FromTheWorld> we can get bug reports
  12. [19:11] <DV8FromTheWorld> and we can talk with users of the mods
  13. [19:11] <RD> Forums......
  14. [19:11] <DV8FromTheWorld> Im not a forum person, if you wish to basically PM between your users, that is fine
  15. [19:12] <DV8FromTheWorld> but i like a conversation that doesnt take 5+ minutes for a reply
  16. [19:12] <DV8FromTheWorld> If you dont wish to use the IRC, then dont
  17. [19:12] <RD> Who needs a forum conversation??? person asks something, someone asks him. It's not a little personal thing, it's a community thing
  18. [19:12] <DV8FromTheWorld> but this is the fastest, most effiecent way to develop.
  19. [19:12] <DV8FromTheWorld> sigh.
  20. [19:12] <Mrbrutal> Nobody asked you to come here, If you don't like it leave.
  21. [19:13] <DV8FromTheWorld> Believe what you wish.
  22. [19:14] <RD> Do you see more than 5 people here? evidence that was it comfortable for you ain't for the community, and last i checked mods are for the community.......
  23. [19:14] <DV8FromTheWorld> RD, actually, last time i checked mods are for fun
  24. [19:15] <DV8FromTheWorld> we create them because we wish to play with them
  25. [19:15] <DV8FromTheWorld> they are not "for" anyone.
  26. [19:15] <DV8FromTheWorld> The irc was only setup a few days ago.
  27. [19:15] <RD> this ain't really comfortable for the people who play them.....
  28. [19:15] <DV8FromTheWorld> and regardless if you believe it to be useful, or ok, it is the method in which we will work.
  29. [19:15] <DV8FromTheWorld> RD, im not sure if you noticed, but Minecraft RULES the IRC.
  30. [19:16] <DV8FromTheWorld> IRC is how people usually discuss modding, if it isnt through skype privately.
  31. [19:16] <DV8FromTheWorld> I've the experience, I should know. Now please, this useless argument is a waste of time.
  32. [19:16] <RD> Most modders tend to use the forums for problem solving, not IRC. IRC is how most people chat and discuss privately. If you want a public hotline, that's why there is a forum.......
  33. [19:16] <DV8FromTheWorld> a public hotline..
  34. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> lets see here..
  35. [19:17] == RD was kicked from #traincraft by Mrbrutal [RD]
  36. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> #minecraftForge
  37. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> #minecraftdev
  38. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> #minecraft
  39. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> #bukkit
  40. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> #bukkitdev
  41. [19:17] <Mrbrutal> dude
  42. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> #buildcraft
  43. [19:17] == RD [webchat@ool-44c75dd5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #traincraft
  44. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> #industrial-craft
  45. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> #redpower
  46. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> I could name you another 20 mc modding channels
  47. [19:17] <Mrbrutal> Stop being obnoxious, if you don't like it don't be here
  48. [19:17] <DV8FromTheWorld> that are 50 times more useful than forums.
  49. [19:18] <RD> Do you see them on the front page of the modding locations?
  50. [19:18] <DV8FromTheWorld> Mrbrutal is right though, this is pointless. We dont require you to be here, and we dont plan to stop using the forums
  51. [19:18] <DV8FromTheWorld> IRC is my home, its what im used to.
  52. [19:18] <DV8FromTheWorld> but i plan to update the forums and such.
  53. [19:18] <RD> the forums is home to 90% of your users. Pick yourself or the people who play the mod
  54. [19:19] <DV8FromTheWorld> So, I'm asking you nicely, either be here to help, or please leave.
  55. [19:19] <DV8FromTheWorld> RD, they are not my users
  56. [19:19] <DV8FromTheWorld> I am here to help a friend
  57. [19:19] <DV8FromTheWorld> to keep his mod alive
  58. [19:19] <DV8FromTheWorld> not to.. socialize with his members.
  59. [19:19] <DV8FromTheWorld> He is away, I'm here to help him.
  60. [19:20] <RD> So what am i supposed to ask. Your pissed off about what you don't like to hear (Which is apparently the truth) and everything else will result in a kick and ban
  61. [19:20] <DV8FromTheWorld> Taking time from my personal projects, including MC Port Central and a personal mod of mine, to assist him.
  62. [19:20] <DV8FromTheWorld> about what i dont wish to hear.. Ive already had someone testing stuff for me in here today
  63. [19:20] <DV8FromTheWorld> in 5 minutes i got an answer to my question
  64. [19:21] <DV8FromTheWorld> if i would have used the forums, it would have taken probably a day.
  65. [19:21] <DV8FromTheWorld> The only cause of a kick in this IRC will be due to spamming, begging to be a tester, or repeatedly requesting a release date.
  66. [19:21] <DV8FromTheWorld> nothing more, nothing less.
  67. [19:22] <DV8FromTheWorld> Ask what you wish, just follow those 3 rules, it is simple.
  68. [19:22] <RD> how bout you answer my question? why don't you release the mod since it won't affect your update progress and it'll shut a ton of people up?
  69. [19:22] <DV8FromTheWorld> Now, if we are all but done here, I have work to completely. Good day.
  70. [19:22] <DV8FromTheWorld> Because I dont believe in releasing broken products.
  71. [19:22] <DV8FromTheWorld> Especially if my name or someone else's I know is associated with it.
  72. [19:23] <DV8FromTheWorld> It would be a disgrace to release a broken mod and call it "updated"
  73. [19:23] <DV8FromTheWorld> we have an issue list that is approaching 40
  74. [19:23] <DV8FromTheWorld> and that is before ive even got the issues off the wiki
  75. [19:23] <RD> beta release? dev release? do you think that bugs really will outway the cost of not using it at all?
  76. [19:23] <DV8FromTheWorld> Yes. I do.
  77. [19:24] <DV8FromTheWorld> And that, Is my final word.
  78. [19:24] <RD> Selfish idiots have taken over our mod...dear lord, i think the community should hear of this....
  79. [19:24] <DV8FromTheWorld> On the matter atleast, please refrain from bringing it up again. Once we feel it is ready for release, we will release it, but not a day before.
  80. [19:24] == mode/#traincraft [+b *!*@ool-44c75dd5.dyn.optonline.net] by Mrbrutal
  81. [19:24] == RD was kicked from #traincraft by Mrbrutal [RD]
  82. [19:25] <DV8FromTheWorld> undo that, right now.
  83. [19:25] <Mrbrutal> Good god, some people are just a pain, why?
  84. [19:25] <DV8FromTheWorld> because, regardless if I dont respect his points, for some they were valid
  85. [19:25] <DV8FromTheWorld> it is my personal stance not to release something until i can stand behind it.
  86. [19:26] <DV8FromTheWorld> for others, dev builds are not a problem, even when they are so broken it would be like walking on glass.
  87. [19:26] <Mrbrutal> mine too, doesn't mean someone should undermine it
  88. [19:26] <DV8FromTheWorld> His points were valid, his methods to explain them were.. less than appropriate.
  89. [19:26] <DV8FromTheWorld> Just unban him, please.
  90. [19:26] == mode/#traincraft [-b RD!*@*] by Mrbrutal
  91. [19:27] <DV8FromTheWorld> Thank you mate.
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