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  1. [5:45:09 AM] Jack Snipe: Also Fionn is beginning to make some very powerful enemies
  2. [5:45:19 AM] Jack Snipe: I do hope he doesn't end up dead in a ditch
  3. [5:45:36 AM] Valifor9: i am flattered you are considering Weaver to be powerful
  4. [5:45:52 AM] Valifor9: well, actually, Regalia's the scarier one
  5. [5:45:53 AM] KPsyChoPath: Well hes 1 crazy bitch
  6. [5:45:54 AM] Jack Snipe: Nah, but I do consider Skean powerful
  7. [5:45:58 AM] KPsyChoPath: speedballin k10 and Kami
  8. [5:46:00 AM] Jack Snipe: And I know Regalia is
  9. [5:46:04 AM] Valifor9: he pissed off Skean?!
  10. [5:46:11 AM] KPsyChoPath: can i has link jack?
  11. [5:46:20 AM] Jack Snipe: And had he pushed a little further he would've made Brother Bear his enemy too
  12. [5:46:20 AM] KPsyChoPath: if you have it
  13. [5:46:24 AM] KPsyChoPath: if not ill look myself
  14. [5:46:26 AM] Valifor9: Regalia probably wont do anything, and he can take Weaver, but SKEAN?!
  15. [5:46:30 AM] Jack Snipe: You don't want three mages after you
  16. [5:46:42 AM] c4ownz: yup and skean is one of the most powerful ritual magic users on the net
  17. [5:46:53 AM] Valifor9: yea, i know, Skean is fucking terrifying
  18. [5:47:04 AM] c4ownz: can kill him without leaving his house >.>
  19. [5:47:14 AM] Jack Snipe: https://www.reddit.com/r/shadownet/comments/3ez11w/state_of_seattle_7282015/ctjqd4r
  20. [5:47:17 AM] Jack Snipe: There you go
  21. [5:47:33 AM] Jack Snipe: "Seems Like your a wee Prick who's looking to die in his sleep"
  22. [5:48:21 AM] Jack Snipe: I believe Brother Bear has promised to sent astral bears to maul him next time he favorably compares BB with Dr. Mengele
  23. [5:48:21 AM] Valifor9: coming from Skean, thats not an idle threat
  24. [5:48:49 AM] Valifor9: jesus, and I thought it was bad when he put a bounty on Weaver's head, or tried, rather (idk if that was allowed)
  25. [5:48:53 AM] slashandburn 777: just finished a chaos list
  26. [5:49:00 AM] slashandburn 777: exactly 1k points
  27. [5:49:03 AM] Valifor9: thats why i thought you meant Weaver, i didnt know he made other enemies
  28. [5:49:44 AM] Jack Snipe: https://www.reddit.com/r/shadownet/comments/3bu14u/official_jackpoint_thread_027_067/cst8buj?context=3
  29. [5:49:44 AM] Valifor9: other, much scarier enemies
  30. [5:49:54 AM] Jack Snipe: There you have contex on the BB incident
  31. [5:50:15 AM] Valifor9: Fionn is suicidal
  32. [5:51:00 AM] Valifor9: it's... not the best idea to piss off 3 of the most powerful mages on the net
  33. [5:51:23 AM] slashandburn 777: It isn't exactly the worst either
  34. [5:51:24 AM] Jack Snipe: [5:51 AM] Valifor9:
  35.  
  36. <<< most powerful magesBrother bear is most certainly not in the top three of mages
  37. [5:51:30 AM] c4ownz: I wouldnt say most powerful
  38. [5:51:32 AM] slashandburn 777: sit in any background count
  39. [5:51:36 AM] Valifor9: i thought Brother Bear was like 300 karma?
  40. [5:51:38 AM] slashandburn 777: gg ritual magic
  41. [5:51:43 AM] Jack Snipe: 200
  42. [5:51:55 AM] Jack Snipe: And most of it is focused around healing magic
  43. [5:51:56 AM] Valifor9: ah, i thought he was much higher, my bad
  44. [5:52:02 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): See the funny thing about Fionn is he doesnt give a fuck you dont have to like him to get a job done
  45. [5:52:20 AM] Valifor9: oh, sure, but pissing off Skean is gonna get him legitimately killed lmao
  46. [5:52:20 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Also never heard back from Greg about the bounty
  47. [5:52:25 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Dagon and Lily seemed cool with it
  48. [5:52:26 AM] Jack Snipe: But any mage can take any mundane any time.
  49. [5:52:41 AM] slashandburn 777: I disagree Jack
  50. [5:52:43 AM] Jack Snipe: Well, as long as they have time to prep
  51. [5:52:48 AM] Valifor9: there we go
  52. [5:52:48 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I mean I have a rating 12 lodge in his house with a mana barrier
  53. [5:52:55 AM] slashandburn 777: again, not always
  54. [5:53:04 AM] Valifor9: it really depends on the circumstances and who's in control of the situation of the confrontation
  55. [5:53:06 AM] slashandburn 777: there are plenty of things mundanes can do against mages
  56. [5:53:13 AM] Valifor9: there's plenty of ways for mundies to fuck with mages
  57. [5:53:14 AM] Jack Snipe: True
  58. [5:53:17 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Also ill be picking up shofar on Fion
  59. [5:53:36 AM] Valifor9: shofar?
  60. [5:53:40 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Also mages thinking they are better than everyone isnt new
  61. [5:53:46 AM] slashandburn 777: horn of gtfo spirits
  62. [5:53:51 AM] Valifor9: ah
  63. [5:53:52 AM] slashandburn 777: don't need to be magic to use
  64. [5:53:53 AM] Jack Snipe: Hehe, if you think a spirit horn will protect you when a mage decides to come after you, you have a whole nother thing coming
  65. [5:54:03 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I mean im not to worried to be honest
  66. [5:54:21 AM] Jack Snipe: Mage goes astral, sits next to you, keeps summoning F7 spirits to attack you until you run out of shofars :P
  67. [5:54:35 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I mean he would have to find me first
  68. [5:54:42 AM] Jack Snipe: Search power op
  69. [5:54:52 AM] KPsyChoPath: yea
  70. [5:54:54 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Its really not when mana barriers are involved
  71. [5:54:56 AM] Jack Snipe: Then again you successfully deescalated, so Brother Bear has no reason to come after you
  72. [5:55:03 AM] c4ownz: fuck spirits they sit in their lodge getting the spirits to assist in the spellcating and they use rituals to kill you
  73. [5:55:18 AM] Jack Snipe: c4ownz: it gets worse
  74. [5:55:20 AM] slashandburn 777: adepts can ruin your day though if you try astral shenanigans
  75. [5:55:21 AM] Jack Snipe: Ally Spirits
  76. [5:55:22 AM] Valifor9: the only one i'd be OOC worried about is Skean. he'd just break down your door and blow up your house
  77. [5:55:34 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I mean as I said he can try
  78. [5:55:38 AM] c4ownz: no he wouldnt he would use rituals
  79. [5:55:39 AM] slashandburn 777: and they just shank you with a weapon focus in the soul
  80. [5:55:56 AM] Jack Snipe: [5:55 AM] slashandburn 777:
  81.  
  82. <<< and they just shank you with a weapon focus in the soulThat won't work.
  83. [5:56:03 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I dont really care its a mage doing there mage thing of im untouchable
  84. [5:56:12 AM] Jack Snipe: You need to be astrally active for weapon foci to work.
  85. [5:56:19 AM | Edited 5:56:26 AM] slashandburn 777: astral perception counts
  86. [5:56:36 AM] Jack Snipe: Perception does count, but most mundanes can't perceive
  87. [5:56:43 AM] slashandburn 777: yes
  88. [5:56:49 AM] slashandburn 777: which is why i prefaced with adepts can
  89. [5:56:58 AM] Jack Snipe: Ah, fair
  90. [5:57:09 AM] Greg: Jack Snipe - Today 02:54
  91. > Mage goes astral, sits next to you, keeps summoning F7 spirits to attack you until you run out of shofars :P
  92. triggers bad feeling with spirits
  93. [5:57:40 AM] Valifor9: i find it funny that fionn said he's not one to kill runners over something said over the trix, and then a few weeks later puts a hit on another runner because of something said over the trix
  94. [5:58:02 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Fionn wont kill another runner
  95. [5:58:07 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): He will just put a bounty on you
  96. [5:58:07 AM] Greg: also it's not my sole discretion with the bounty I did give an opinion but it should come up sat
  97. [5:58:13 AM] Jack Snipe: Ordering a hit is just as bad.
  98. [5:58:14 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Okie dokie
  99. [5:58:25 AM] slashandburn 777: because of RICO
  100. [5:58:25 AM] Valifor9: ordering a hit is the same thing as killing him
  101. [5:58:26 AM] slashandburn 777: yes
  102. [5:58:30 AM] Greg: I'm OK with it
  103. [5:58:32 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Its really not
  104. [5:58:34 AM] slashandburn 777: before, technically no
  105. [5:58:36 AM] Valifor9: if it works, he's dead because of you
  106. [5:58:39 AM] Valifor9: it's the same thing
  107. [5:58:45 AM] Valifor9: legally, it certainly is
  108. [5:58:48 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Dont threaten another runner then
  109. [5:58:55 AM] Jack Snipe: OOC I'm cool with it (as long as leadership+the player are cool)
  110. [5:59:07 AM] Jack Snipe: IC: if you're found out, you're a dead man
  111. [5:59:18 AM] Greg: Valifor9 - Today 02:58
  112. > ordering a hit is the same thing as killing him
  113. nah because it's as likely to piss. people off putting out a hit on a fellow runner is a bit of a deal in shadowcomunity
  114. [5:59:18 AM] Valifor9: oh, sure, i didnt say he COULDNT do it, only that it IS exactly like killing the runner himself
  115. [5:59:34 AM] Jack Snipe: [5:59 AM] Greg:
  116.  
  117. <<< people off putting out a hit on a fellow runner is a bit of a deal in shadowcomunityWhat?
  118. [5:59:37 AM] Jack Snipe: No
  119. [5:59:40 AM] Jack Snipe: Source
  120. [5:59:42 AM] c4ownz: I mean no sane runner is going to do it
  121. [5:59:42 AM] Jack Snipe: Please
  122. [5:59:48 AM] Greg: absolutely think about it
  123. [6:00:00 AM] Greg: he got pissed off put a hit on a runner
  124. [6:00:09 AM] Greg: he could do that to you next
  125. [6:00:18 AM] Jack Snipe: Oh wait
  126. [6:00:24 AM] Jack Snipe: Never mind, I misread you.
  127. [6:00:40 AM] Jack Snipe: I though you meant to say it was a common occurrence for people to put a hit on fellow runners.
  128. [6:00:43 AM] c4ownz: on top of the killing of a johnson and stuff fionn has a really bad rep with the community
  129. [6:00:50 AM] Jack Snipe: Which I take issue with
  130. [6:00:52 AM] Valifor9: [5:58 AM] Jack Snipe:
  131.  
  132. <<< OOC I'm cool with it (as long as leadership+the player are cool)im fine with it personally. it's a consequence to something Weaver said. he said something and pissed off a crazy irish dude, it happens :P
  133. [6:00:52 AM] slashandburn 777: Ironically people would be more ok with fionn killing weaver heads up since then it's personal and not just his modus operandi regarding people who he dislikes
  134. [6:01:02 AM] slashandburn 777: IC
  135. [6:01:09 AM] Valifor9: agreed slash
  136. [6:01:14 AM] Greg: slashandburn 777 - Today 03:00
  137. > Ironically people would be more ok with fionn killing weaver heads up since then it's personal and not just his modus operandi regarding people who he dislikes
  138. yep
  139. [6:01:27 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I mean if Weaver attacks Fionn ofc fionns gonna fight back
  140. [6:01:32 AM] Valifor9: if he just got mad and shot a runner, that'd be better than organizing a discreet hit to take out the runner
  141. [6:01:36 AM] Jack Snipe: Yeah, if this ever comes out Fionn is going to find his contacts dry up, find people no longer want to run with him, and find all of weavers friends hunting him.
  142. [6:01:45 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): But he isnt going to killer a runner.
  143. [6:01:50 AM] Valifor9: Weaver DOES have friends too, btw
  144. [6:02:04 AM] Valifor9: hendy, we're saying if he puts a hit on a runner, he IS killing them
  145. [6:02:10 AM] slashandburn 777: does he, I thought you ate them all, you know, when you became a ghoul
  146. [6:02:17 AM] Jack Snipe: And maybe even some people who don't even really care about Weaver, but care about the precedent this sets.
  147. [6:02:20 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: MAN
  148. [6:02:21 AM] Greg: I'm so looking forward to the strip club Valifor9
  149. [6:02:29 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: SOME RIGGER SAID SOME SHIT I DIDN LIKE IN THE IC JACKPOINT THREAD
  150. [6:02:30 AM] Lily C.: gonna be so dumb
  151. [6:02:31 AM] Valifor9: oh man so am i greg, it's gonna be great
  152. [6:02:32 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: GOTTA GEEK THAT BITCH
  153. [6:02:39 AM] Valifor9: ^
  154. [6:02:43 AM] Valifor9: seems kinda insane
  155. [6:02:44 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: THREE
  156. [6:02:48 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: STRONGEST MAGES ON THE NET
  157. [6:02:49 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: lmao
  158. [6:02:58 AM] Greg: nah
  159. [6:02:58 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: I can't believe i just read that
  160. [6:02:58 AM] Valifor9: well, among them at least
  161. [6:03:02 AM] Jack Snipe: [6:02 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino:
  162.  
  163. <<< STRONGEST MAGESThat was already debunked.
  164. [6:03:08 AM] Greg: I don't see Miku or Fujin there
  165. [6:03:11 AM] Jack Snipe: BB is by no means one of the top three
  166. [6:03:13 AM] Valifor9: and i thought BB was stronger than he is
  167. [6:03:15 AM | Edited 6:03:22 AM] c4ownz: Soloman
  168. [6:03:25 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: its still pretty laughable
  169. [6:03:28 AM] Jack Snipe: Skean and Regalia? I'd say they're close if not in the top three
  170. [6:03:37 AM] Lily C.: Regalia's really not.
  171. [6:03:44 AM] Jack Snipe: Isn't she prime?
  172. [6:03:51 AM] Valifor9: i said three OF the most powerful, not THE most powerful
  173. [6:04:01 AM] Jack Snipe: BB isn't even close to that.
  174. [6:04:03 AM] c4ownz: prime does not mean they are powerful
  175. [6:04:08 AM] Nightfish: ^
  176. [6:04:10 AM] slashandburn 777: ^
  177. [6:04:14 AM] Valifor9: which, again, i misunderstood because i thought BB was stronger
  178. [6:04:17 AM] slashandburn 777: Soltero is technically not prime
  179. [6:04:21 AM] Jack Snipe: Hush you, Nightfish.
  180. [6:04:30 AM] Valifor9: legit thought BB was higher up there
  181. [6:04:31 AM] c4ownz: tattys almost 500 karma and wasted around half of it on stupid shit
  182. [6:04:33 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: lllllooook at you rigger
  183. [6:04:33 AM] slashandburn 777: but he is definitely strong enough to do prime runs
  184. [6:04:34 AM] Jack Snipe: You and your 500 karma underpowered horizontally developed character.
  185. [6:04:37 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: a pathetic creature of meat and bone
  186. [6:04:44 AM] Lily C.: beyond that, I mean...
  187. [6:04:45 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): [6:01 AM] Valifor9:
  188.  
  189. <<< Weaver DOES have friends too, btwOh yea for sure. Fionn also has friends like he knows Kinght is a vampire and can ask him for a favor and he also helped out another runner recently with a job
  190. [6:04:48 AM] Nightfish: -.-
  191. [6:05:01 AM] Lily C.: idk, Regalia knows Fionn's MO
  192. [6:05:06 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: not gonna lie
  193. [6:05:09 AM] Valifor9: and Knight will kill another runner for Fionn?
  194. [6:05:10 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: Chaos owes Fionn BIG
  195. [6:05:17 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Probably
  196. [6:05:19 AM] Greg: just find a way to piss off Fujin
  197. [6:05:21 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: Chaos would kill anyone for Fionn, he doesn't have a choice.
  198. [6:05:24 AM] Greg: someone
  199. [6:05:26 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Being a known vampire isnt agood idea
  200. [6:05:26 AM] Greg: please
  201. [6:05:31 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: Its the price when you get in with the finnegan family and have a mage burned out on demand
  202. [6:05:43 AM] Lily C.: sand I think I missed Fion actually being grumpy w/ Regalia
  203. [6:05:43 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: Deal with the devil baby
  204. [6:05:45 AM] Valifor9: greg, have fujin befriend Weaver, then learn about Fionn's bounty
  205. [6:06:00 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: OOC though
  206. [6:06:01 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: ayy lmao
  207. [6:06:03 AM] Jack Snipe: Out of interest, Greg/Lily: how quickly would other runners of the net hear about this bounty through the grapevine?
  208. [6:06:10 AM] c4ownz: Its on jackpoint we all know about it
  209. [6:06:19 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I mean I dont know how your going to figuire out there even is a bounty on your head.
  210. [6:06:20 AM] slashandburn 777: about the fact that there is a bounty, almost immediately
  211. [6:06:25 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: for anyone who kills a tridstar
  212. [6:06:28 AM] slashandburn 777: that it was fionn
  213. [6:06:30 AM] Lily C.: I mean, it depends on who he was hiring or what he was doing with it
  214. [6:06:32 AM] slashandburn 777: not likely soon
  215. [6:06:33 AM] c4ownz: most runners also have bounty licences
  216. [6:06:36 AM] slashandburn 777: or maybe ever
  217. [6:06:43 AM] Lily C.: yeah
  218. [6:06:48 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): Fionn isnt going to give his name for this bounty funny enough
  219. [6:06:53 AM] Jack Snipe: [6:06 AM] c4ownz:
  220.  
  221. <<< Its on jackpoint we all know about itI don't think I publically said: ITS A BOUNTY A BOUNTY ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES
  222. [6:06:53 AM] Lily C.: if Fionn is smart about it, it could be hard to track it
  223. [6:07:02 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: I mean
  224. [6:07:09 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: my understanding is Fionn is a professional who doesn't talk about his work
  225. [6:07:11 AM] Nightfish: I kinda think the bounty hunter license is for official stuff, not one guy putting a bounty on another guy to have him murdered ;)
  226. [6:07:15 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: and judging by an IC post in the latest shadownews thread
  227. [6:07:15 AM] Valifor9: if Weaver ever does find out about the bounty, he WILL try his damnedest to kill Fionn himself, reputation be damned
  228. [6:07:26 AM] Greg: I mean I'll be honest hoshi may just take the bounty
  229. [6:07:27 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: simply stated: someone should shut that bitch up referring to whoevers posting all the news
  230. [6:07:31 AM] Jack Snipe: Process of elimination should be good enough to figure out likely suspects though :P
  231. [6:07:45 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: All of you tryharding metagaming it up to wack him are some shameful fucking nerds
  232. [6:07:45 AM] Lily C.: I wasn't sure, but I thought Fionn was talking about Kuma in that
  233. [6:07:46 AM] Viva Miriya /u/MiriyaParino: lol
  234. [6:07:48 AM] Valifor9: to be fair jack, Weaver does have enemies....
  235. [6:07:56 AM] Jack Snipe: We have quite a few high logic/intuition characters some even with analytical mind
  236. [6:07:57 AM] slashandburn 777: I dunno, what's weaver's logic
  237. [6:07:58 AM] Valifor9: his first thought certainly woldnt be fionn
  238. [6:07:59 AM | Edited 6:08:29 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I left it ambigious for a reason whom he was talking about
  239. [6:08:00 AM] slashandburn 777: also he
  240. [6:08:05 AM] slashandburn 777: is a ghoul
  241. [6:08:11 AM] Valifor9: ^
  242. [6:08:32 AM] Valifor9: he does have decent intuition though
  243. [6:09:04 AM] Valifor9: but he'd think it was Aztechnology or a particular J he pissed off before he'd think Fionn
  244. [6:09:04 AM] slashandburn 777: Intuition won't help you steadily work through cases etc
  245. [6:09:35 AM] slashandburn 777: any sort of methodical process is logic rather than intuition
  246. [6:09:41 AM] Valifor9: thats fair
  247. [6:09:48 AM] slashandburn 777: and often people play low logic characters too methodically
  248. [6:09:52 AM] slashandburn 777: or efficiently
  249. [6:09:59 AM] slashandburn 777: they should be very impulsive
  250. [6:10:03 AM] Lily C.: and while I'm okay w/ the bounty and the pvp and whatnot as long as the players are all for it, I don't want to actively be a part of it. :x
  251. [6:10:06 AM] Valifor9: then yea, he wouldnt be that good at it. but he does have connections, so he'd ask around and have others do the work for him
  252. [6:10:07 AM] slashandburn 777: since their gut is usually right
  253. [6:10:15 AM] slashandburn 777: way more often than their head anyway
  254. [6:10:28 AM] Jack Snipe: Luckily IC my characters won't care that much.
  255. [6:10:47 AM] hendy funny buns (Crumberdalebatchcrum): I mean if Val doesnt want it done im okay with that.
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