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- 16:24 AQ looks like we have no other choice, does it
- 16:24 Titianicia You have a choice.
- 16:24 Titianicia You always have a choice.
- 16:25 Tiami AQ, I told you that he has a reputation, did I not?
- 16:25 AQ indeed
- 16:25 AQ tbh
- 16:25 AQ maybe
- 16:25 AQ we should start a Sondrian mass migration to Pardes
- 16:25 Tiami As much as I love him, I want hime to fix himself. I admit, I have to fix some of my issues as well. I admit fault nonetheless
- 16:25 AQ the people that want to, obviouly
- 16:26 Tiami AQ, that won't bode well.
- 16:26 Tiami Trust me.
- 16:26 Titianicia And quiet frankly I have had a personal understanding of his character which is a stubborn hard ass Mercian.
- 16:26 Tiami Some of them have some bad opinions of Sondrians.
- 16:26 AQ tbh
- 16:26 AQ alternatively
- 16:26 AQ we revive Guanxi
- 16:26 *** Crontor joined #Sondriaunite
- 16:26 feepbot welcomes Crontor (1 / 2): the resident 'Murican
- 16:26 Tiami Can't AQ. Raider claimed.
- 16:26 Crontor Anything gotten done?
- 16:27 AQ so
- 16:27 AQ Tiami
- 16:27 Erjunhuf you're apparently being kicked
- 16:27 Titianicia I know this would make things worse but they are planning to eject you Crontor from what I have heard.
- 16:27 AQ you know
- 16:27 Erjunhuf I will raise endless hell over this
- 16:27 Tiami No conclusions been made Erjunhuf -.-
- 16:27 Erjunhuf absolutely endless hell if this does not come to a vote
- 16:27 Titianicia Which is stupid in my opinion.
- 16:27 AQ that is what makes things worse
- 16:27 Crontor Excuse me
- 16:27 Crontor What
- 16:27 Erjunhuf oh come off it. You were discussing 10 minutes ago how to go about it
- 16:27 AQ no
- 16:27 AQ we were discussing whether to do it or not
- 16:28 Crontor Most of Sondria would leave with me
- 16:28 AQ whether that would help fix the problem or make it worse
- 16:28 Titianicia I can agree with that to be honest Crontor, as I have been ejected before.
- 16:28 Erjunhuf 16:14 AQ of course 16:14 AQ the only thing that is left to decide 16:14 AQ is 16:14 AQ how do we get rid of him gently
- 16:29 Erjunhuf fuck this tyrannical bullshit
- 16:29 Crontor That's assuming I'm the problem
- 16:29 Tiami Erjunhuf, it was in the context of if he is kicked. That does not mean he is being kicked.
- 16:29 AQ exactly
- 16:29 Titianicia What do you value AQ? The quality of a writer over a mask he wears?
- 16:29 Erjunhuf how else can you read that and not go "We're kicking him, but how to do it well?"
- 16:30 Tiami If any player is to get kicked, it goes to vote. Plain and simple.
- 16:30 AQ What I value?
- 16:30 Tiami I may not be the receiver of the question, but I feel the need to answer, Tits.
- 16:30 AQ That someone does not actively destroy the community
- 16:30 AQ whether it is intentionally or not
- 16:31 Erjunhuf so we're kicking Kyle too than? For being guilty of the exact same thing?
- 16:31 Erjunhuf how about Marq?
- 16:31 Tiami I value how the person represents himself to the community and how he behaves. At the end of the day, if you're writing is not necessarily good, but you appear a good person, then I want to RP with that person.
- 16:31 Tiami Erjunhuf, stop overreating. Nothing's concrete yet.
- 16:31 Tiami If anything happens, then react.
- 16:31 Erjunhuf no no no. I've held my tongue long enough
- 16:31 Crontor So you're basing your decisions on me based on what other regions say
- 16:32 Crontor Regions that have never met me
- 16:32 Erjunhuf everytime something happens, we blame Cron. Plain and simple
- 16:32 AQ no, Cron
- 16:32 Crontor But instead base their opinions on hearsay
- 16:32 Erjunhuf how is that fair to him?
- 16:32 AQ we were gathering information, that is all
- 16:32 Crontor What information?
- 16:32 Crontor I defended Sondria to the point of my rep being forever tarnished during the ash debacle
- 16:32 AQ what other people think about both you and Sondria
- 16:33 Crontor I get blamed for every incident that comes up
- 16:33 Crontor It's just
- 16:33 Crontor Wow
- 16:33 Crontor I thought you people were my friends
- 16:33 Crontor I thought there was a sense of honor here
- 16:33 AQ no, Cron
- 16:33 AQ every incident that's popped up recently
- 16:34 AQ was you vs Kyle
- 16:34 Crontor No
- 16:34 Crontor It wasn't
- 16:34 Crontor I'm just the only one that gets punished for it
- 16:34 AQ no
- 16:34 AQ you are not
- 16:34 AQ nobody gets punished for anything
- 16:34 Erjunhuf I thought the goal was NOT to tear the region apart this seems to be the opposite of that
- 16:34 AQ and that is the problem
- 16:34 AQ yeah
- 16:34 AQ actually
- 16:34 AQ I think the region has already been torn apart long ago
- 16:35 AQ it's only surfacing now
- 16:35 Erjunhuf the region is stagnant, that doesn't make it torn apart
- 16:35 Tiami You have to take into context that certain players carry a larger 'warn' history then others.
- 16:35 AQ this going on here is
- 16:35 Tiami I've reprimanded Scand plenty of times. I can't reprimand Kyle if he's not on the IRC actively.
- 16:36 AQ I've reprimanded him repeatedly via facebook
- 16:36 Tiami A lot more goes on than it seems, Crontor, Erjunhuf.
- 16:36 Erjunhuf this is the first time I've heard any talk about Scand being reprimanded. Even contemplating kicking Cron is way too far out of line if he hasn't clearly done something. Screw our rep with the other RPing regions; we never do anything with them anyways
- 16:37 Tiami I've even kicked Scand, Erjunhuf.
- 16:37 AQ hasn't done anything?
- 16:37 Erjunhuf if there are logs involving Scand and yourself, I would request that they be made public
- 16:37 Erjunhuf not that anyone else hasn't done
- 16:37 Titianicia May I just point out here that Crontor is perfectly capable of cooperating with the rest of the community as is one of the major driving factors of me starting the Realpolitik RP right now.
- 16:37 Tiami Erjunhuf, you know my position on PMs.
- 16:38 Erjunhuf than I'm discounting them
- 16:38 Crontor Not to sound pretentious
- 16:38 Tiami Fair enough Erjunhuf.
- 16:38 Crontor But I am the source of most of Sondrian history
- 16:38 Crontor I named this region
- 16:38 Crontor I have spent years
- 16:38 Crontor Years of my life dedicated to this region
- 16:38 AQ so have we all, Cron
- 16:38 AQ which is why this pains me so much
- 16:38 AQ but the way it is right now
- 16:38 AQ Sondria is going to die
- 16:39 AQ a slow, painful death
- 16:39 Crontor I have stood and defended us against the community when the Ash incident happened
- 16:39 Crontor No it's not
- 16:39 Erjunhuf that's true but also completely irrelevant, Cron. You haven't done anything that we haven't already clearly established other people have done. This is exclusionary and that is unjustifiable in my eyes
- 16:39 Crontor Only if you let it
- 16:39 AQ I am trying to prevent it
- 16:39 AQ tiami
- 16:39 AQ say something
- 16:39 Tiami I'm observing.
- 16:39 Crontor Of course Erjunhuf
- 16:39 Crontor I agree
- 16:39 AQ other people have done that, yes
- 16:40 AQ but they have been slammed for it
- 16:40 Erjunhuf how is this doing that? for the love of god man, when we start banning players for something that we're not going to ban others for
- 16:40 AQ yet you constantly do it and get annoyed when someone says something against it
- 16:40 Crontor Do what?
- 16:40 Crontor What exactly have I done?
- 16:40 Titianicia ^
- 16:40 Erjunhuf you're guilty of plotting. Which everyone in this room, minus some of the newcomers, are equally guilty
- 16:41 Erjunhuf are we kicking ourselves out for plotting against KOTA?
- 16:41 AQ no
- 16:41 AQ but I think we all promised that plotting like that would not happen again
- 16:41 Erjunhuf so why are we kicking people who're trying to start a proxy war?
- 16:41 Erjunhuf it's asinine and I won't stand for it.
- 16:41 AQ we are not
- 16:41 Crontor How can we ban plotting?
- 16:42 Tiami Plotting is justified if you're plotting an RP with all participants.
- 16:42 Tiami Now
- 16:42 AQ this
- 16:42 Crontor People have every right to plot as they choose
- 16:42 AQ is actively plotting an RP against someone who doesn't even know about the RP
- 16:42 Crontor With or without the targets
- 16:42 Tiami Plotting to invade another player (Kyle in this case), and not telling him who all is participating, is wrong.
- 16:43 Crontor Except that's not what happened
- 16:43 AQ then what has
- 16:43 Erjunhuf so KOTA than. We technically had no knowledge of it. Had we not, we would have been embroiled in an RP where we had had no planning
- 16:43 Crontor Literally, we told Msword and lanos to go after Kyle and offered our support
- 16:43 Crontor Kyle was told
- 16:44 Erjunhuf You all know me; I am slow to get angry, I am fair to everyone, and I'm only occasionally serious. Well right now I am furious, fucking /furious/ , that this is even being considered right now
- 16:44 Tiami Erjunhuf, the general consensus, was that Kyle would eventually invade Sondria. When? He didn't explain. Obviously it was wrong of him to not tell us when he would do the RP.
- 16:44 AQ the thing is with kota
- 16:44 AQ Kyle WAS slammed for it
- 16:44 AQ massively
- 16:44 Tiami ^
- 16:44 Crontor Eh
- 16:45 AQ and now, Cron, you are planning to do basically the same thing
- 16:45 AQ and get away with it?
- 16:45 Crontor It's nowhere near the same thing
- 16:45 Crontor Not by a longshot
- 16:45 Erjunhuf you're talking about banning him for something nowhere near on the same level
- 16:45 AQ to prevent something as big as kota from ever happening again
- 16:45 AQ simple as that
- 16:45 Crontor I conspired to get some active people in our region to take land from an inactive member
- 16:45 Crontor Vs
- 16:46 Crontor Planning the complete subjugation of the region of Sondria
- 16:47 *** Titianicia quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
- 16:47 Crontor I'm sorry but I don't see how those are even near each other
- 16:48 Crontor Anything to say?
- 16:48 Tiami Crontor, Kyle's been active via other members. I've told you this before.
- 16:48 AQ well, guys
- 16:48 Tiami He keeps in touch to plan RPs. He monitors ON and GAR constantly.
- 16:48 AQ I have to go
- 16:49 Tiami Tak care AQ
- 16:49 Tiami Take*
- 16:49 Erjunhuf cya AQ
- 16:49 AQ talk to you later
- 16:49 Crontor Bye AQ
- 16:49 *** AQ left #Sondriaunite
- 16:49 Crontor So Kyle plots. We plot. You plot. We all plot.
- 16:49 Erjunhuf this is still a marked injustice
- 16:50 Crontor I have yet to have actually be accused of anything
- 16:50 Crontor This just reeks of spite
- 16:50 Tiami Crontor, we laid out the differences of plotting already
- 16:50 Erjunhuf and now Eternals has been locked. What the absolute hell, I offered to run it because Kyle has been inactive and now it gets locked?
- 16:51 Tiami So, I ask, just drop it for the remainder of the night. I, nor you two (I assume), would like to have an argument right now.
- 16:51 Crontor Well Erjunhuf
- 16:51 Crontor It would appear that Kyle has purposefully delayed eternal a
- 16:51 Crontor Eternals
- 16:52 Crontor Because ON keeps asking about it
- 16:52 Crontor He told that to Marq
- 16:52 Tiami Mhm
- 16:53 Crontor So are we basing all further decisions on the opinions of other regions?
- 16:53 Erjunhuf wait, Kyle has been delaying Eternals because ON keeps asking about it?
- 16:53 Crontor Yes
- 16:53 Erjunhuf and we're not going off on him about this?!
- 16:53 Erjunhuf what the hell
- 16:53 Crontor Well apparently not
- 16:53 Crontor Because Tiami and AQ are friends with Kyle
- 16:53 Crontor But don't like me very much
- 16:53 Tiami Never said I didn't like you, Crontor.
- 16:54 Tiami I'm allowed to be friends with Kyle nonetheless.
- 16:54 *** AQ joined #Sondriaunite
- 16:54 +++ ChanServ has given op to AQ
- 16:54 feepbot welcomes AQ (1 / 1): The British-German… wait, what are you?
- 16:54 Crontor Actions speak louder than words
- 16:54 AQ people
- 16:54 AQ I have a decision
- 16:54 AQ we will put up a vote
- 16:54 Erjunhuf I have no problem with anyone, but you can't tell me that's not favoritism
- 16:54 AQ Remove Crontor
- 16:54 AQ AND remove Kyle
- 16:54 Crontor Umm
- 16:54 *** mib_bjpxpu joined #Sondriaunite
- 16:54 AQ both will be voted upon by the region
- 16:54 Ghant Where will this vote be held?
- 16:55 Crontor Talk about the worst vote ever
- 16:55 *** Crontor quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
- 16:55 *** mib_bjpxpu is now known as Onekawa
- 16:55 AQ they will be individual votes
- 16:55 Ghant Can I submit my vote to you via PM?
- 16:55 AQ on the Sondria regional form
- 16:55 Tiami Hey Onekawa
- 16:55 AQ *forum
- 16:55 Onekawa Ma I'm /fuming/ right now
- 16:55 Erjunhuf AQ, are you aware of Kyles recent blocking of Eternals?
- 16:55 Ghant ok
- 16:55 AQ huh
- 16:55 Erjunhuf ON, just the man I wanted to see
- 16:55 AQ I wasn't up until now
- 16:56 Erjunhuf apparently Kyle has been blocking Eternals from moving forward because of ON
- 16:56 Erjunhuf and now its been locked after I offered to run it earlier today
- 16:56 AQ wow
- 16:56 Erjunhuf I demand justice
- 16:56 AQ as I said
- 16:56 Onekawa How dare that be locked without even be informed. I am thoroughly disgusted.
- 16:56 AQ both Kyle and Crontor will be put on a vote
- 16:56 Tiami sighs
- 16:56 AQ whether they will remain Sondrians or not
- 16:57 Tiami He locked it because you, Onekawa, as he stated, kept pestering him about it.
- 16:57 Erjunhuf and not because I offered to run it?
- 16:57 AQ the other option
- 16:57 Erjunhuf I find the timing hard to believe
- 16:57 Tiami Sure, you have a right to do it.
- 16:57 Erjunhuf I would love to, if he unlocks the thread
- 16:57 AQ will be removing both without a vote
- 16:57 Ghant can you link the topic once its made?
- 16:57 Erjunhuf or has it unlocked, whichever is necessary
- 16:57 Onekawa I haven't even asked him about Eternals for months now, let alone pester him about it
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