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  1. 16:24 AQ looks like we have no other choice, does it
  2. 16:24 Titianicia You have a choice.
  3. 16:24 Titianicia You always have a choice.
  4. 16:25 Tiami AQ, I told you that he has a reputation, did I not?
  5. 16:25 AQ indeed
  6. 16:25 AQ tbh
  7. 16:25 AQ maybe
  8. 16:25 AQ we should start a Sondrian mass migration to Pardes
  9. 16:25 Tiami As much as I love him, I want hime to fix himself. I admit, I have to fix some of my issues as well. I admit fault nonetheless
  10. 16:25 AQ the people that want to, obviouly
  11. 16:26 Tiami AQ, that won't bode well.
  12. 16:26 Tiami Trust me.
  13. 16:26 Titianicia And quiet frankly I have had a personal understanding of his character which is a stubborn hard ass Mercian.
  14. 16:26 Tiami Some of them have some bad opinions of Sondrians.
  15. 16:26 AQ tbh
  16. 16:26 AQ alternatively
  17. 16:26 AQ we revive Guanxi
  18. 16:26 *** Crontor joined #Sondriaunite
  19. 16:26 feepbot welcomes Crontor (1 / 2): the resident 'Murican
  20. 16:26 Tiami Can't AQ. Raider claimed.
  21. 16:26 Crontor Anything gotten done?
  22. 16:27 AQ so
  23. 16:27 AQ Tiami
  24. 16:27 Erjunhuf you're apparently being kicked
  25. 16:27 Titianicia I know this would make things worse but they are planning to eject you Crontor from what I have heard.
  26. 16:27 AQ you know
  27. 16:27 Erjunhuf I will raise endless hell over this
  28. 16:27 Tiami No conclusions been made Erjunhuf -.-
  29. 16:27 Erjunhuf absolutely endless hell if this does not come to a vote
  30. 16:27 Titianicia Which is stupid in my opinion.
  31. 16:27 AQ that is what makes things worse
  32. 16:27 Crontor Excuse me
  33. 16:27 Crontor What
  34. 16:27 Erjunhuf oh come off it. You were discussing 10 minutes ago how to go about it
  35. 16:27 AQ no
  36. 16:27 AQ we were discussing whether to do it or not
  37. 16:28 Crontor Most of Sondria would leave with me
  38. 16:28 AQ whether that would help fix the problem or make it worse
  39. 16:28 Titianicia I can agree with that to be honest Crontor, as I have been ejected before.
  40. 16:28 Erjunhuf 16:14 AQ of course 16:14 AQ the only thing that is left to decide 16:14 AQ is 16:14 AQ how do we get rid of him gently
  41. 16:29 Erjunhuf fuck this tyrannical bullshit
  42. 16:29 Crontor That's assuming I'm the problem
  43. 16:29 Tiami Erjunhuf, it was in the context of if he is kicked. That does not mean he is being kicked.
  44. 16:29 AQ exactly
  45. 16:29 Titianicia What do you value AQ? The quality of a writer over a mask he wears?
  46. 16:29 Erjunhuf how else can you read that and not go "We're kicking him, but how to do it well?"
  47. 16:30 Tiami If any player is to get kicked, it goes to vote. Plain and simple.
  48. 16:30 AQ What I value?
  49. 16:30 Tiami I may not be the receiver of the question, but I feel the need to answer, Tits.
  50. 16:30 AQ That someone does not actively destroy the community
  51. 16:30 AQ whether it is intentionally or not
  52. 16:31 Erjunhuf so we're kicking Kyle too than? For being guilty of the exact same thing?
  53. 16:31 Erjunhuf how about Marq?
  54. 16:31 Tiami I value how the person represents himself to the community and how he behaves. At the end of the day, if you're writing is not necessarily good, but you appear a good person, then I want to RP with that person.
  55. 16:31 Tiami Erjunhuf, stop overreating. Nothing's concrete yet.
  56. 16:31 Tiami If anything happens, then react.
  57. 16:31 Erjunhuf no no no. I've held my tongue long enough
  58. 16:31 Crontor So you're basing your decisions on me based on what other regions say
  59. 16:32 Crontor Regions that have never met me
  60. 16:32 Erjunhuf everytime something happens, we blame Cron. Plain and simple
  61. 16:32 AQ no, Cron
  62. 16:32 Crontor But instead base their opinions on hearsay
  63. 16:32 Erjunhuf how is that fair to him?
  64. 16:32 AQ we were gathering information, that is all
  65. 16:32 Crontor What information?
  66. 16:32 Crontor I defended Sondria to the point of my rep being forever tarnished during the ash debacle
  67. 16:32 AQ what other people think about both you and Sondria
  68. 16:33 Crontor I get blamed for every incident that comes up
  69. 16:33 Crontor It's just
  70. 16:33 Crontor Wow
  71. 16:33 Crontor I thought you people were my friends
  72. 16:33 Crontor I thought there was a sense of honor here
  73. 16:33 AQ no, Cron
  74. 16:33 AQ every incident that's popped up recently
  75. 16:34 AQ was you vs Kyle
  76. 16:34 Crontor No
  77. 16:34 Crontor It wasn't
  78. 16:34 Crontor I'm just the only one that gets punished for it
  79. 16:34 AQ no
  80. 16:34 AQ you are not
  81. 16:34 AQ nobody gets punished for anything
  82. 16:34 Erjunhuf I thought the goal was NOT to tear the region apart this seems to be the opposite of that
  83. 16:34 AQ and that is the problem
  84. 16:34 AQ yeah
  85. 16:34 AQ actually
  86. 16:34 AQ I think the region has already been torn apart long ago
  87. 16:35 AQ it's only surfacing now
  88. 16:35 Erjunhuf the region is stagnant, that doesn't make it torn apart
  89. 16:35 Tiami You have to take into context that certain players carry a larger 'warn' history then others.
  90. 16:35 AQ this going on here is
  91. 16:35 Tiami I've reprimanded Scand plenty of times. I can't reprimand Kyle if he's not on the IRC actively.
  92. 16:36 AQ I've reprimanded him repeatedly via facebook
  93. 16:36 Tiami A lot more goes on than it seems, Crontor, Erjunhuf.
  94. 16:36 Erjunhuf this is the first time I've heard any talk about Scand being reprimanded. Even contemplating kicking Cron is way too far out of line if he hasn't clearly done something. Screw our rep with the other RPing regions; we never do anything with them anyways
  95. 16:37 Tiami I've even kicked Scand, Erjunhuf.
  96. 16:37 AQ hasn't done anything?
  97. 16:37 Erjunhuf if there are logs involving Scand and yourself, I would request that they be made public
  98. 16:37 Erjunhuf not that anyone else hasn't done
  99. 16:37 Titianicia May I just point out here that Crontor is perfectly capable of cooperating with the rest of the community as is one of the major driving factors of me starting the Realpolitik RP right now.
  100. 16:37 Tiami Erjunhuf, you know my position on PMs.
  101. 16:38 Erjunhuf than I'm discounting them
  102. 16:38 Crontor Not to sound pretentious
  103. 16:38 Tiami Fair enough Erjunhuf.
  104. 16:38 Crontor But I am the source of most of Sondrian history
  105. 16:38 Crontor I named this region
  106. 16:38 Crontor I have spent years
  107. 16:38 Crontor Years of my life dedicated to this region
  108. 16:38 AQ so have we all, Cron
  109. 16:38 AQ which is why this pains me so much
  110. 16:38 AQ but the way it is right now
  111. 16:38 AQ Sondria is going to die
  112. 16:39 AQ a slow, painful death
  113. 16:39 Crontor I have stood and defended us against the community when the Ash incident happened
  114. 16:39 Crontor No it's not
  115. 16:39 Erjunhuf that's true but also completely irrelevant, Cron. You haven't done anything that we haven't already clearly established other people have done. This is exclusionary and that is unjustifiable in my eyes
  116. 16:39 Crontor Only if you let it
  117. 16:39 AQ I am trying to prevent it
  118. 16:39 AQ tiami
  119. 16:39 AQ say something
  120. 16:39 Tiami I'm observing.
  121. 16:39 Crontor Of course Erjunhuf
  122. 16:39 Crontor I agree
  123. 16:39 AQ other people have done that, yes
  124. 16:40 AQ but they have been slammed for it
  125. 16:40 Erjunhuf how is this doing that? for the love of god man, when we start banning players for something that we're not going to ban others for
  126. 16:40 AQ yet you constantly do it and get annoyed when someone says something against it
  127. 16:40 Crontor Do what?
  128. 16:40 Crontor What exactly have I done?
  129. 16:40 Titianicia ^
  130. 16:40 Erjunhuf you're guilty of plotting. Which everyone in this room, minus some of the newcomers, are equally guilty
  131. 16:41 Erjunhuf are we kicking ourselves out for plotting against KOTA?
  132. 16:41 AQ no
  133. 16:41 AQ but I think we all promised that plotting like that would not happen again
  134. 16:41 Erjunhuf so why are we kicking people who're trying to start a proxy war?
  135. 16:41 Erjunhuf it's asinine and I won't stand for it.
  136. 16:41 AQ we are not
  137. 16:41 Crontor How can we ban plotting?
  138. 16:42 Tiami Plotting is justified if you're plotting an RP with all participants.
  139. 16:42 Tiami Now
  140. 16:42 AQ this
  141. 16:42 Crontor People have every right to plot as they choose
  142. 16:42 AQ is actively plotting an RP against someone who doesn't even know about the RP
  143. 16:42 Crontor With or without the targets
  144. 16:42 Tiami Plotting to invade another player (Kyle in this case), and not telling him who all is participating, is wrong.
  145. 16:43 Crontor Except that's not what happened
  146. 16:43 AQ then what has
  147. 16:43 Erjunhuf so KOTA than. We technically had no knowledge of it. Had we not, we would have been embroiled in an RP where we had had no planning
  148. 16:43 Crontor Literally, we told Msword and lanos to go after Kyle and offered our support
  149. 16:43 Crontor Kyle was told
  150. 16:44 Erjunhuf You all know me; I am slow to get angry, I am fair to everyone, and I'm only occasionally serious. Well right now I am furious, fucking /furious/ , that this is even being considered right now
  151. 16:44 Tiami Erjunhuf, the general consensus, was that Kyle would eventually invade Sondria. When? He didn't explain. Obviously it was wrong of him to not tell us when he would do the RP.
  152. 16:44 AQ the thing is with kota
  153. 16:44 AQ Kyle WAS slammed for it
  154. 16:44 AQ massively
  155. 16:44 Tiami ^
  156. 16:44 Crontor Eh
  157. 16:45 AQ and now, Cron, you are planning to do basically the same thing
  158. 16:45 AQ and get away with it?
  159. 16:45 Crontor It's nowhere near the same thing
  160. 16:45 Crontor Not by a longshot
  161. 16:45 Erjunhuf you're talking about banning him for something nowhere near on the same level
  162. 16:45 AQ to prevent something as big as kota from ever happening again
  163. 16:45 AQ simple as that
  164. 16:45 Crontor I conspired to get some active people in our region to take land from an inactive member
  165. 16:45 Crontor Vs
  166. 16:46 Crontor Planning the complete subjugation of the region of Sondria
  167. 16:47 *** Titianicia quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  168. 16:47 Crontor I'm sorry but I don't see how those are even near each other
  169. 16:48 Crontor Anything to say?
  170. 16:48 Tiami Crontor, Kyle's been active via other members. I've told you this before.
  171. 16:48 AQ well, guys
  172. 16:48 Tiami He keeps in touch to plan RPs. He monitors ON and GAR constantly.
  173. 16:48 AQ I have to go
  174. 16:49 Tiami Tak care AQ
  175. 16:49 Tiami Take*
  176. 16:49 Erjunhuf cya AQ
  177. 16:49 AQ talk to you later
  178. 16:49 Crontor Bye AQ
  179. 16:49 *** AQ left #Sondriaunite
  180. 16:49 Crontor So Kyle plots. We plot. You plot. We all plot.
  181. 16:49 Erjunhuf this is still a marked injustice
  182. 16:50 Crontor I have yet to have actually be accused of anything
  183. 16:50 Crontor This just reeks of spite
  184. 16:50 Tiami Crontor, we laid out the differences of plotting already
  185. 16:50 Erjunhuf and now Eternals has been locked. What the absolute hell, I offered to run it because Kyle has been inactive and now it gets locked?
  186. 16:51 Tiami So, I ask, just drop it for the remainder of the night. I, nor you two (I assume), would like to have an argument right now.
  187. 16:51 Crontor Well Erjunhuf
  188. 16:51 Crontor It would appear that Kyle has purposefully delayed eternal a
  189. 16:51 Crontor Eternals
  190. 16:52 Crontor Because ON keeps asking about it
  191. 16:52 Crontor He told that to Marq
  192. 16:52 Tiami Mhm
  193. 16:53 Crontor So are we basing all further decisions on the opinions of other regions?
  194. 16:53 Erjunhuf wait, Kyle has been delaying Eternals because ON keeps asking about it?
  195. 16:53 Crontor Yes
  196. 16:53 Erjunhuf and we're not going off on him about this?!
  197. 16:53 Erjunhuf what the hell
  198. 16:53 Crontor Well apparently not
  199. 16:53 Crontor Because Tiami and AQ are friends with Kyle
  200. 16:53 Crontor But don't like me very much
  201. 16:53 Tiami Never said I didn't like you, Crontor.
  202. 16:54 Tiami I'm allowed to be friends with Kyle nonetheless.
  203. 16:54 *** AQ joined #Sondriaunite
  204. 16:54 +++ ChanServ has given op to AQ
  205. 16:54 feepbot welcomes AQ (1 / 1): The British-German… wait, what are you?
  206. 16:54 Crontor Actions speak louder than words
  207. 16:54 AQ people
  208. 16:54 AQ I have a decision
  209. 16:54 AQ we will put up a vote
  210. 16:54 Erjunhuf I have no problem with anyone, but you can't tell me that's not favoritism
  211. 16:54 AQ Remove Crontor
  212. 16:54 AQ AND remove Kyle
  213. 16:54 Crontor Umm
  214. 16:54 *** mib_bjpxpu joined #Sondriaunite
  215. 16:54 AQ both will be voted upon by the region
  216. 16:54 Ghant Where will this vote be held?
  217. 16:55 Crontor Talk about the worst vote ever
  218. 16:55 *** Crontor quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  219. 16:55 *** mib_bjpxpu is now known as Onekawa
  220. 16:55 AQ they will be individual votes
  221. 16:55 Ghant Can I submit my vote to you via PM?
  222. 16:55 AQ on the Sondria regional form
  223. 16:55 Tiami Hey Onekawa
  224. 16:55 AQ *forum
  225. 16:55 Onekawa Ma I'm /fuming/ right now
  226. 16:55 Erjunhuf AQ, are you aware of Kyles recent blocking of Eternals?
  227. 16:55 Ghant ok
  228. 16:55 AQ huh
  229. 16:55 Erjunhuf ON, just the man I wanted to see
  230. 16:55 AQ I wasn't up until now
  231. 16:56 Erjunhuf apparently Kyle has been blocking Eternals from moving forward because of ON
  232. 16:56 Erjunhuf and now its been locked after I offered to run it earlier today
  233. 16:56 AQ wow
  234. 16:56 Erjunhuf I demand justice
  235. 16:56 AQ as I said
  236. 16:56 Onekawa How dare that be locked without even be informed. I am thoroughly disgusted.
  237. 16:56 AQ both Kyle and Crontor will be put on a vote
  238. 16:56 Tiami sighs
  239. 16:56 AQ whether they will remain Sondrians or not
  240. 16:57 Tiami He locked it because you, Onekawa, as he stated, kept pestering him about it.
  241. 16:57 Erjunhuf and not because I offered to run it?
  242. 16:57 AQ the other option
  243. 16:57 Erjunhuf I find the timing hard to believe
  244. 16:57 Tiami Sure, you have a right to do it.
  245. 16:57 Erjunhuf I would love to, if he unlocks the thread
  246. 16:57 AQ will be removing both without a vote
  247. 16:57 Ghant can you link the topic once its made?
  248. 16:57 Erjunhuf or has it unlocked, whichever is necessary
  249. 16:57 Onekawa I haven't even asked him about Eternals for months now, let alone pester him about it
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