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  1. [19:57:03] iH8sn0w: I'll start at the beginning.
  2. [19:57:23] iH8sn0w: It started back in July 2011.
  3. [19:58:04] iH8sn0w: I retweeted https://twitter.com/MuscleNerd/statuses/19477208727 about 1 year later...
  4. [19:58:18] iH8sn0w: Apparently some user got confused and so he blocked me due to that.
  5. [19:58:45] iH8sn0w: I met this guy named 'MTW' who was suggesting ways to ask him to get unblocked. I was just going with it.
  6. [19:59:08] iH8sn0w: Eventually we found out where he worked in Early August.
  7. [19:59:10] iH8sn0w: I left it there.
  8. [19:59:39] iH8sn0w: Then one day in either Late August or Early September... me, MTW, iFish, and a few others I cannot recall were in this skype call.
  9. [19:59:49] iH8sn0w: MTW was host and added MuscleNerd's work.
  10. [20:00:17] iH8sn0w: I stupidly did not stop him from doing it though.
  11. [20:00:32] iH8sn0w: MuscleNerd picked up and... http://musclenerd.com/ih8sn0w_prank.mov happened.
  12. [20:00:51] iH8sn0w: It was recording because all of my skype calls get recorded automatically with this Pamela Recorder plugin.
  13. [20:00:54] iH8sn0w: *recorded
  14. [20:01:09] iH8sn0w: When it was over, sure we had our laughs...
  15. [20:01:24] iH8sn0w: But then... I began to question if it was actually him
  16. [20:01:29] v0L: ah i have the pamela plugin for my gf's remote sex
  17. [20:01:53] hack: lol
  18. [20:01:53] iH8sn0w: So I cropped the recording. and rendered it as an mp3. Sent it to posixninja and asked him if it was MN.
  19. [20:02:18] iH8sn0w: posix confirmed it was him.
  20. [20:02:35] hack: yeah it is him
  21. [20:02:38] iH8sn0w: Then I think posix posted the recording in a private cdev channel where eventually MuscleNerd got a lot of it.
  22. [20:02:53] hack: ahh
  23. [20:02:54] iH8sn0w: So that was over.
  24. [20:02:58] iH8sn0w: Weeks went by
  25. [20:03:01] iH8sn0w: I was still blocked.
  26. [20:03:29] iH8sn0w: one day in school I tweeted out an HTML calendar I had to do in a so called "computer course".
  27. [20:03:42] v0L: wtf is this, just before my access removed
  28. [20:03:44] v0L: Session Start: Tue May 15 03:58:56 2012
  29. [20:03:44] v0L: Session Ident: MuscleNerd
  30. [20:03:44] v0L: Session Ident: MuscleNerd (MuscleNerd@freedom-C78FA56C.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)
  31. [20:03:44] v0L: (MuscleNerd): hi...i'm *really* not comfortable with ih8sn0w having ops. the fallout from him pranking me still exists to this day.
  32. [20:03:44] v0L: (MuscleNerd): can you please de-op him?
  33. [20:03:44] v0L: (MuscleNerd): (there is other shitty stuff going on besides just fallout from the prank phone calls, but that alone makes me uncomfortable)
  34. [20:03:44] v0L: Session Time: Wed May 16 00:00:00 2012
  35. [20:03:45] iH8sn0w: Apparently I missed a digit and multiple people pointed it out.
  36. [20:04:01] v0L: he has issues
  37. [20:04:05] iH8sn0w: Then MuscleNerd unblocked me.
  38. [20:04:14] iH8sn0w: Just to tweet to me that there is an error in the calendar.
  39. [20:04:34] lastExile: wait
  40. [20:04:36] iH8sn0w: So basically only that day, I must have been frustrated to unblock me and look like an ass.
  41. [20:04:42] iH8sn0w: *on
  42. [20:04:50] lastExile: this recording that you posted is it on his domain and server ?
  43. [20:05:00] lastExile: or is musclenerd.com owned by someone else ?
  44. [20:05:03] v0L: dunno
  45. [20:05:06] iH8sn0w: So basically on that day, I must have been frustrated and he unblock me to make me look like an ass.
  46. [20:05:08] iH8sn0w: no
  47. [20:05:09] iH8sn0w: its not
  48. [20:05:13] iH8sn0w: its his
  49. [20:05:16] iH8sn0w: anyways
  50. [20:05:19] iH8sn0w: he unblocked me
  51. [20:05:27] iH8sn0w: (after 3 months or so)
  52. [20:05:34] iH8sn0w: just to point out the error
  53. [20:05:40] iH8sn0w: so I got a little pissed.
  54. [20:05:55] v0L: i told him several times he is sop
  55. [20:06:05] iH8sn0w: I went through his twitpic timeline and found the pics he tweeted when some movie studio took over his work and rebranded it.
  56. [20:06:10] v0L: ih8sn0w with ops cant do anything to him
  57. [20:06:20] iH8sn0w: I tweeted saying "shouldn't this saying General something....".
  58. [20:06:26] lastExile: well mn has level 9999 access on #ios so what should it matter to him
  59. [20:06:27] iH8sn0w: General being the first word of his work.
  60. [20:06:30] iH8sn0w: That triggered it.
  61. [20:06:41] irc.silentspark.net: hack invited MuscleNerd into the channel.
  62. [20:06:48] iH8sn0w: He then told me to stop prank calling him at work.
  63. [20:06:53] iH8sn0w: I told him it wasn't me that called him.
  64. [20:07:00] iH8sn0w: He told me its "obviously you".
  65. [20:07:07] v0L: he has done nothing but creepy redsn0w to the us
  66. [20:07:16] iH8sn0w: Should I continue to go on? :p
  67. [20:07:21] lastExile: go on
  68. [20:07:22] v0L: you should
  69. [20:07:30] lastExile: i want the whole thing but not in bible format
  70. [20:07:31] iH8sn0w: let me pull up the log of the chat we had in IRC
  71. [20:08:46] iH8sn0w: so...
  72. [20:08:49] iH8sn0w: more tweets happened.
  73. [20:08:55] iH8sn0w: He eventually told me to post the recording
  74. [20:09:00] iH8sn0w: I then decided to take it ot IRC
  75. [20:09:02] iH8sn0w: http://pastie.org/private/xgzqyd87qbntlsbxiw6ia
  76. [20:09:21] iH8sn0w: that happened and in the end he posted the mp3.
  77. [20:10:04] iH8sn0w: Apparently though, after I stopped speaking to MTW, MuscleNerd still kept getting phone calls.
  78. [20:10:09] v0L: i knew it!
  79. [20:10:23] lastExile: i have a question
  80. [20:10:30] iH8sn0w: Last I heard they even called his house
  81. [20:10:31] hack: iH8sn0w, how did you find his number :3
  82. [20:10:32] iH8sn0w: lastExile ?
  83. [20:10:35] lastExile: how did yall get the phone number to MN ?
  84. [20:10:49] iH8sn0w: I really do not wish to discuss that without MuscleNerd's concent tbh.
  85. [20:10:53] iH8sn0w: It would lead to a full dox.
  86. [20:11:16] hack: o.0
  87. [20:11:52] lastExile: i understand i am just curious on how it happend
  88. [20:12:14] iH8sn0w: Want to know the major mistake?
  89. [20:12:16] v0L: he is 17 please dont push hard
  90. [20:12:26] v0L: been there done that
  91. [20:12:29] iH8sn0w: He posted pictures when studios were filming movies at his work.
  92. [20:12:32] v0L: MN is 40+
  93. [20:12:35] iH8sn0w: 48
  94. [20:12:46] lastExile: well i am  42
  95. [20:12:53] v0L: i am 33
  96. [20:13:05] lastExile: retirement is coming for me
  97. [20:13:32] v0L: brb
  98. [20:13:40] lastExile: well just leave it at that no need to say anything else about the how did you get
  99. [20:13:54] lastExile: ill speak to MN when ever i get a chance
  100. [20:14:07] hack: same
  101. [20:14:13] lastExile: iH8sn0w : how many are in the dev team now ?
  102. [20:14:19] iH8sn0w: Active?
  103. [20:14:22] lastExile: yeah
  104. [20:14:39] v0L: tell xxx that i thanks for removing my access
  105. [20:14:56] iH8sn0w: IMHO, I think only MN/wizdaz are active still. planetbeing seems to be more involved with cdev than as a whole with iphone-dev (redsn0w).
  106. [20:15:11] hack: yeah
  107. [20:15:33] iH8sn0w: Anything else you guys need?
  108. [20:15:35] v0L: thansk
  109. [20:15:35] hack: havn't seen much of wizdaz
  110. [20:15:45] lastExile: so in basic non of the orginals are left
  111. [20:15:49] v0L: thanks for removing me and adding me as op
  112. [20:16:06] v0L: i will respect to to this networks policy
  113. [20:16:17] v0L: licking mN's pneis
  114. [20:16:27] lastExile: v0L be cool
  115. [20:16:35] lastExile: we'll handle it
  116. [20:16:51] v0L: licking MN's penis*
  117. [20:17:05] hack: lastExile, we just need to explain to MN that OP can't hurt an SOP no more then a halfop can
  118. [20:17:11] lastExile: iH8sn0w: know anything about if egohot is doing anything ?
  119. [20:17:18] iH8sn0w: I doubt it.
  120. [20:17:32] v0L: all i did was opping ih8sn0w
  121. [20:17:42] v0L: i cant be cool
  122. [20:17:45] lastExile: you know most people moved onto playstation hacking
  123. [20:17:45] v0L: i am sop
  124. [20:17:46] lastExile: lol
  125. [20:18:05] iH8sn0w: MuscleNerd is pretty devious in my eyes.
  126. [20:18:12] iH8sn0w: He pretends to be my friend in a way.
  127. [20:18:30] iH8sn0w: Then talks behind my back or restricts me from priv. unrelated to the network.
  128. [20:18:38] v0L: i was sop sorry
  129. [20:18:44] v0L: i am op
  130. [20:18:57] v0L: atm
  131. [20:19:04] lastExile: i have anyother question
  132. [20:19:12] lastExile: another
  133. [20:19:16] iH8sn0w: Whats up?
  134. [20:19:17] lastExile: damn cant spell at 3:31am
  135. [20:19:31] lastExile: how did kaatje end up with releasing exploits and everything before anyone
  136. [20:19:39] lastExile: always wondered about that
  137. [20:19:45] lastExile: if anyone knows
  138. [20:19:49] iH8sn0w: When did she/he ever release an "exploit"?
  139. [20:20:01] lastExile: dunno this was when she was still a ircop
  140. [20:20:02] lastExile: on here
  141. [20:20:08] lastExile: before we ejected her out
  142. [20:20:16] iH8sn0w: I don't recall her ever releasing one.
  143. [20:20:16] lastExile: or whatever he/she/it
  144. [20:20:25] hack: lol
  145. [20:20:26] iH8sn0w: Maybe PwnageTool bundles for 4.0 betas?
  146. [20:20:28] lastExile: she use to send me some links
  147. [20:20:39] lastExile: yeah i think
  148. [20:20:49] iH8sn0w: posixninja taught her that stuff.
  149. [20:21:05] lastExile: ah so thats how
  150. [20:21:07] hack: PwnageTool bundles are easy to make
  151. [20:21:08] lastExile: explains alot
  152. [20:21:16] hack: i had to all the time with my iphone
  153. [20:21:24] lastExile: man i just sell phones and services
  154. [20:21:54] hack: i might buy one from you soon  :P
  155. [20:21:55] iH8sn0w: hack: I don't understand why bundles are even made anymore. Its much easier just to do byte searching/patching since its all armv7 now. :)
  156. [20:22:06] hack: yeah
  157. [20:22:14] hack: now it is
  158. [20:22:18] hack: a lot has changed
  159. [20:22:20] iH8sn0w: Its been since 4.3.x
  160. [20:22:24] hack: i'm liking it
  161. [20:22:35] lastExile: cuz there are the people that are lazy dumb and just clueless to even think
  162. [20:22:41] v0L: i am out fellas
  163. [20:22:42] lastExile: and the ones that do the things
  164. [20:22:42] hack: ^
  165. [20:22:59] v0L (v0L@sexy.apple.com) left IRC. (no)
  166. [20:23:12] hack: ok thanks for the info iH8sn0w
  167. [20:23:15] iH8sn0w: 1 more thing
  168. [20:23:33] iH8sn0w: When you approach MuscleNerd about this. Be very careful. He's very sensitive talking about it.
  169. [20:23:33] MuscleNerd (MuscleNerd@freedom-C78FA56C.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) joined the channel.
  170. [20:23:46] lastExile: ohi
  171. [20:23:54] MuscleNerd: hi
  172. [20:24:06] hack: sup mn
  173. [20:24:27] hack: we wanted to see if we can stop the beef
  174. [20:24:38] hack: try to see if it's an option here
  175. [20:24:40] MuscleNerd: why what's happened?
  176. [20:24:52] hack: nothing bad
  177. [20:25:11] lastExile: i was kinda presented with some issues
  178. [20:25:22] lastExile: that might seem big or small but still issues that tends to come up
  179. [20:25:45] lastExile: and i dont know much about what is going on with any of the issues
  180. [20:26:00] lastExile: and wanted to know what the issues are
  181. [20:26:31] lastExile: hack go ahead explain to MN what is going on
  182. [20:27:00] hack:  ok, v0l is upset because ih8 can't have access
  183. [20:27:19] hack: we all know about the prank calls that where made
  184. [20:27:21] MuscleNerd: this is the same v0l who played all those games last week with other ops?
  185. [20:27:22] iH8sn0w: Let me just say I don't really want access in the first place. :p
  186. [20:27:28] MuscleNerd: ok wait
  187. [20:27:30] MuscleNerd: can we just end it there
  188. [20:27:51] MuscleNerd: ih8sn0w doesn't want access.  that is the fastest easiest solution.  if v0l is upset at that, why does anyone care?
  189. [20:28:18] lastExile: i really dont care since its a issue with the 3 of yall not me
  190. [20:28:25] lastExile: like i said it tends to show up to me
  191. [20:28:34] hack: ^ + 1
  192. [20:28:49] MuscleNerd: ih8sn0w is happy with it.  i'm happy with it.  lastExile you're happy with it.  hack you seem ok with it too.  So, this is because *v0l* is not happy?
  193. [20:29:02] lastExile: it seems so
  194. [20:29:04] hack: right
  195. [20:29:06] MuscleNerd: lol
  196. [20:29:16] MuscleNerd: who is v0l?
  197. [20:29:26] MuscleNerd: i mean, why does he get to stick his nose into it?
  198. [20:29:27] hack: just a good firend
  199. [20:29:33] hack: been around many years
  200. [20:29:42] MuscleNerd: this doesn't concern him at all though
  201. [20:29:49] hack: i know that
  202. [20:29:57] hack: i'm not saying he has a right
  203. [20:30:15] hack: that's just v0l
  204. [20:30:48] MuscleNerd: I dunno what to say here.  everyone is happy with it except for a third-party named v0l.
  205. [20:31:06] hack: i'm just here cause i don't have any problems with one
  206. [20:31:09] hack: lol
  207. [20:31:14] hack: anyone*
  208. [20:31:22] lastExile: i am here to make sure it doesnt blow up for everyone
  209. [20:31:26] lastExile: maintain the cool
  210. [20:31:28] lastExile: of the network
  211. [20:31:33] hack: ^
  212. [20:31:45] MuscleNerd: how can it blow up if everyone is happy with it, except for v0l?
  213. [20:32:09] hack: iH8sn0w, don't want ops ?
  214. [20:32:23] iH8sn0w: If its going to cause drama, nope.
  215. [20:32:26] lastExile: in my eyes we got too many ops
  216. [20:32:31] hack: ^
  217. [20:32:33] iH8sn0w: ^ agreed.
  218. [20:32:33] lastExile: hack you already know who i am talking about
  219. [20:32:34] lastExile: lol
  220. [20:32:48] lastExile: beggin ass people that goes to sam for ops
  221. [20:32:48] hack: hmm
  222. [20:33:08] hack: who has sam oped ?
  223. [20:33:22] lastExile: kaabiion or something
  224. [20:33:30] hack: i can change that
  225. [20:33:32] hack: ok
  226. [20:33:37] hack: let's do this
  227. [20:33:49] hack: ops for only people that help the chan
  228. [20:34:01] lastExile: yeah
  229. [20:34:05] hack: and that can keep cool
  230. [20:34:07] lastExile: people that do matter
  231. [20:34:15] lastExile: not to have ops cuz they want to be up there
  232. [20:34:23] hack: right
  233. [20:34:31] MuscleNerd: i always thought that *was* the policy, even though yeah it often strays from that
  234. [20:34:43] MuscleNerd: (only if you help channel)
  235. [20:34:47] hack: everyone agreed ?
  236. [20:34:52] MuscleNerd: sure
  237. [20:35:07] MuscleNerd: and that ih8sn0w is happy with no ops
  238. [20:35:11] lastExile: Musclenerd i changed the access level who can and can not add people to ops due to too many people started to fuck up the list
  239. [20:35:24] lastExile: so its only SOP all that is on the top
  240. [20:35:28] lastExile: level 10 or higher
  241. [20:36:04] hack: ok lastExile who should we remove
  242. [20:36:18] MuscleNerd: oh ok.  yeah what i mean is that it always seems to go through cycles of lean->fat->lean with respect to the # of ops due to just having friends who are ops
  243. [20:36:41] hack: acfrazier, rms cj
  244. [20:36:43] lastExile: i got netadmin status after 4 years of being on here
  245. [20:36:56] hack: same
  246. [20:36:59] MuscleNerd: ok i just got back from amsterdam so i need to catch up on a lot of stuff...i've gotta run if that's ok
  247. [20:37:10] hack: thanks MuscleNerd
  248. [20:37:11] lastExile: its all good
  249. [20:37:19] MuscleNerd: ok thanks catch you later!
  250. [20:37:38] lastExile: :)
  251. [20:38:07] hack: only ones i see to keep oped are acfrazier, rms cj
  252. [20:38:39] hack: any way to reset the list ?
  253. [20:39:32] lastExile: check with neo and bigboss about that also
  254. [20:39:37] lastExile: before starting to make changes
  255. [20:59:24] hack: yeah
  256. [21:07:42] irc.thebigboss.org: hack invited Bigboss into the channel.
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