DF Game Club: Sam & Max: The Mob, the Mole and the Meatball

(06:54:09 AM) Syd: Gonna do the full episode in one sitting this time, since there were some problems in the last session.
(06:54:12 AM) Lattsam: Hey Syd!  Hey Cheeseness!
(06:56:59 AM) Syd: Hopefully Twitch won't eat the archive for this one. :P
(06:57:52 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah - I wonder if it's something at my end
(06:58:04 AM) Syd: Alright, gonna start this up in a bit. Let me know if anything needs fixed.
(06:59:10 AM) GameClubFan_427467 [4670389f@hide-B64552F4.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(06:59:21 AM) Cheeseness: Hi hi
(06:59:48 AM) Lattsam: Deja vu baby
(07:00:31 AM) Fireflower [51aae753@hide-B64552F4.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(07:00:35 AM) Fireflower: Hey
(07:01:49 AM) Cheeseness: Hey hey :D
(07:01:58 AM) Lattsam: Hey hey hey! :3
(07:02:43 AM) Cheeseness: The office doesn't change much over the first season
(07:02:50 AM) Power46 [ae34e7cd@hide-BF4D4B18.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(07:03:06 AM) Fireflower: has the stream started?
(07:03:12 AM) Cheeseness: Fireflower: Yeah
(07:03:24 AM) Fireflower: ok, think I need to refresh.
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(07:04:00 AM) Fireflower [51aae753@hide-6C77D8AA.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(07:04:06 AM) Fireflower: Back
(07:04:15 AM) Cheeseness: Working now?
(07:04:27 AM) Fireflower: yep
(07:04:31 AM) Cheeseness: Syd's just poking around the office at the moment
(07:04:37 AM) Fireflower: k
(07:05:12 AM) Fireflower: waiting for a tweet to retweet :)
(07:05:26 AM) Cheeseness: Oh, cheers
(07:06:00 AM) Cheeseness: lol, these guys
(07:07:17 AM) Sycoraxic98 [18c48289@hide-50D287EE.mibbit.com] entered the room.
Sycoraxic98 Syd
(07:07:31 AM) Cheeseness: Hi Sycoraxic98
(07:07:43 AM) Sycoraxic98: Love the music in this episode, especially :)
(07:07:48 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(07:07:50 AM) Sycoraxic98: Hello, Cheeseness.
(07:08:07 AM) Cheeseness: We'd like to get Jared to join us for a Sam & Max session at some stage
(07:08:41 AM) Sycoraxic98: I'm very pleased to own the first two season's soundtrack on physical CD before they went off sale...I wish Telltale sold ALL their soundtracks!
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(07:09:15 AM) Cheeseness: I know, right. The season 3 soundtrack thread on the Telltale forum has so many posts
(07:10:16 AM) GameClubFan_850510: Is nothing currently streaming, or is my video borked?
(07:10:25 AM) Lattsam: The latter, probably
(07:10:26 AM) Cheeseness: Give the page a refresh
(07:10:29 AM) Fireflower: this is a good track
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(07:10:44 AM) Cheeseness: So the character playing cards is from Telltale's original poker game
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(07:10:57 AM) Cheeseness: (at least his model is - I'm not sure if it's meant to be the same character)
(07:11:19 AM) Power46: They make a joke about that.
(07:11:50 AM) Power46: The character in the first poker games is Boris Krinkle.
(07:11:55 AM) Power46: Hence that joke.
(07:12:05 AM) Sycoraxic98: :)
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GameClubFan_427467 GameClubFan_971207
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(07:13:41 AM) Cheeseness: Working now, GameClubFan_971207?
(07:14:44 AM) Power46: They even made the joke while I was typing it.
(07:15:45 AM) Sycoraxic98: Hmm?
(07:16:04 AM) Cheeseness: lDid the stream just go out?
(07:16:10 AM) Fireflower: yeah
(07:16:13 AM) Fireflower: now it's back
(07:16:13 AM) Sycoraxic98: Yeah...it's back though.
(07:16:14 AM) Syd: Try refreshing
(07:16:17 AM) Syd: Apologies for that
(07:16:20 AM) Cheeseness: It's OK
(07:17:41 AM) Power46: Am I remembering wrong, or did we do this already last week?
(07:17:50 AM) Power46: This part of it that is.
(07:18:05 AM) Cheeseness: Power46: We had some issues with the stream and Syd decided to play through from the beginning for this week
(07:18:13 AM) Cheeseness: (which is fine with me since I wasn't here last week :D )
(07:18:37 AM) Power46: Okay. That explains it. I came to the last stream, where no one was really here.
(07:19:00 AM) Power46: I think I was one of the three people here.
(07:19:02 AM) Cheeseness: I didn't really promote it as much as usual - PAX and the Double FIne BBQ sort of ate up all my time :(
(07:19:21 AM) Lattsam: Yeah, that explains it
(07:19:27 AM) Power46: Ah, okay. That happens
(07:20:04 AM) Cheeseness: Ha ha, Bosco
(07:20:21 AM) bosco [32a0dcbe@hide-BF4D4B18.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(07:20:47 AM) Lattsam: Speak of the devil
(07:20:49 AM) Cheeseness: Hey bosco
(07:20:49 AM) Power46: My favorite part about Bosco is asking him if he has any...
(07:20:50 AM) Cheeseness: lol
(07:20:52 AM) Lattsam: MAX: The devil! The devil!
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(07:21:09 AM) Power46: In-game Bosco, that is.
(07:22:01 AM) Cheeseness: The return of b-tads
(07:22:12 AM) Power46: The new B-TADS
(07:22:34 AM) udoncat [3cf1c9c7@hide-50D287EE.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(07:22:36 AM) Fireflower: is that the same shop as in a previous episode?
(07:22:40 AM) Sycoraxic98: I have the chickens ;P
(07:22:41 AM) Cheeseness: udoncat!
(07:22:44 AM) Power46: Yes.
(07:22:49 AM) udoncat: morning
(07:22:57 AM) Cheeseness: Somebody at PAX was dressed as Guybrush and had a rubber chicken with a pulley in the middle
(07:23:32 AM) Eddie [d06051b4@hide-6C77D8AA.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(07:23:36 AM) Power46: Not surprising. It is amusing that he is associated with them though.
(07:23:58 AM) Power46: Welcome udoncat.
(07:24:04 AM) Cheeseness: Most people don't go to the effort of making one though
(07:24:09 AM) Lattsam: Hey udoncat :3
(07:24:15 AM) Cheeseness: You're up early, udoncat ^_^
(07:24:17 AM) udoncat: Hello :)
(07:24:20 AM) udoncat: :P
(07:24:26 AM) Cheeseness: I love the listening device :D
(07:24:28 AM) udoncat: I went to bed three hours ago
(07:24:40 AM) Cheeseness: =_=
(07:24:43 AM) Power46: I really enjoy these games.
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(07:25:38 AM) Power46: I believe that part of why you restarted was that the game was going by really fast.
(07:25:42 AM) Cheeseness: Was this the free episode from season 1?
(07:25:46 AM) Power46: Am I right?
(07:25:53 AM) Power46: No, episode 4 is.
(07:25:58 AM) Cheeseness: Ah
(07:26:17 AM) Permafery [46469094@hide-50D287EE.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(07:26:18 AM) Cheeseness: Pretty sure I got a free copy of this one too - I remember giving it to somebody
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(07:26:23 AM) Power46: Abe Lincoln Must Die.
(07:26:27 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:26:42 AM) Cheeseness: Main reason is that  Twitch is messing up and has been eating our archives D:
(07:26:43 AM) Permafry_42 [46469094@hide-B64552F4.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(07:26:47 AM) Permafry_42: hey
(07:26:48 AM) Cheeseness: Hey Permafry_42
(07:26:53 AM) Power46: Telltale used to give free episodes every once in awhile.
(07:27:08 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah
(07:27:09 AM) Fireflower: Hey
(07:27:34 AM) Power46: Now we have caught up to where we got to last time.
(07:27:45 AM) Cheeseness: They still do some giveaway type stuff. The first ep of TWD was free on the iPad recently
(07:27:51 AM) Power46: Hello, Permafry_42.
(07:28:34 AM) Power46: I haven't followed them as much recently, after they changed their DRM and caused problems for my laptop.
(07:28:45 AM) Permafry_42: Which episode is this?
(07:29:00 AM) Power46: The Mole, the Mob and the Meatball.
(07:29:02 AM) Cheeseness: Ep 3
(07:29:06 AM) Power46: Episode 3.
(07:29:33 AM) Lattsam: Yeah... I don't know if I follow Telltale a lot recently
(07:29:47 AM) Lattsam: So you're not alone Power46
(07:30:54 AM) Cheeseness: The community's been a bit less pleasant over the past year and a bit
(07:31:21 AM) Permafry_42: i love that the mafia thinks everything needs to be spoken metaphoricallys
(07:31:29 AM) Power46: When they gave out the first episode of Back to the Future, I figured out that I couldn't play it offline, and if I got back online the launcher would bug.
(07:31:47 AM) Cheeseness: Hmm, weird
(07:32:00 AM) Power46: I couldn't then play it without reinstalling it.
(07:32:09 AM) Power46: I never had that problem before that.
(07:32:29 AM) udoncat: Does Sam look like he has a permanent smile to you?
(07:32:34 AM) Power46: Oh well.
(07:32:36 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(07:32:45 AM) Power46: And he does appear too.
(07:32:53 AM) Power46: to*
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(07:33:49 AM) Fireflower: was the shopkeeper french in the previous episode?
(07:34:01 AM) Power46: Nope. It is a disguise.
(07:34:06 AM) Fireflower: ah
(07:34:08 AM) Cheeseness: Bosco? No, I think he was disguised as a pom
(07:34:23 AM) Power46: And he redisguises himself every episode.
(07:34:43 AM) Power46: At least, every episode of season 1.
(07:34:44 AM) udoncat: Which was the Bosco origin episode?
(07:34:53 AM) Power46: Episode 1.
(07:35:16 AM) Cheeseness: Season 2 had a bunch of backstory stuff IIRC
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(07:35:23 AM) Fireflower: did the stream die?
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(07:35:30 AM) udoncat: Think so :(
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(07:35:33 AM) Cheeseness: Hey Meeps
(07:35:40 AM) Permafry_42: hey
(07:35:41 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, give us a tick
(07:35:41 AM) Lattsam: It's back
(07:35:43 AM) Power46: It did have a lot of backstory.
(07:35:44 AM) Meeps: Hey! :D
(07:35:59 AM) Power46: Hello, Meeps.
(07:36:08 AM) Syd: Stream should be fine now
(07:36:12 AM) Syd: Refresh if it isn't
(07:36:14 AM) Syd: No idea why it's doing this
(07:36:57 AM) Fireflower: it's back
(07:37:13 AM) Cheeseness: Fireflower: So Bosco having silly disguises is a running gag. It changes every episode
(07:37:19 AM) Cheeseness: Liek Sybil's profession
(07:37:21 AM) Fireflower: i see
(07:39:16 AM) Power46: The disguises are to prevent the conspiracy heads from knowing who he is.
(07:39:19 AM) Permafry_42: love how the sign outside her office changes every episode
(07:39:21 AM) Cheeseness: Yep
(07:39:24 AM) Power46: He is a bit paranoid.
(07:39:30 AM) Cheeseness: Or is he :D
(07:40:01 AM) Power46: There is a reason I didn't say very paranoid.
(07:40:19 AM) Cheeseness: Poor Bosco
(07:41:59 AM) Cheeseness: She cleaned up quick
(07:42:05 AM) Cheeseness: Did Max eat all the sauce? >_<
(07:42:20 AM) Power46: I never thought of that.
(07:42:28 AM) Power46: Quite probably.
(07:42:58 AM) Power46: Ah yes, this segment.
(07:43:09 AM) Permafry_42: anyone else think that same and max's building looks a lot like the grim fandango building shap?
(07:43:21 AM) Permafry_42: *shape
(07:43:51 AM) Power46: It is a pretty common building shape.
(07:44:16 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(07:44:39 AM) Sycoraxic98: YO MOMMA SO STUPID
(07:44:52 AM) Cheeseness: Ha ha, the rope
(07:44:54 AM) Power46: Precisely what this segment is about.
(07:45:07 AM) Meeps: oh dear
(07:45:14 AM) Cheeseness: This is Syd's favourite part, I bet
(07:45:21 AM) Meeps: haha
(07:45:55 AM) Fireflower: :)
(07:46:25 AM) Cheeseness: "OK :D"
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(07:46:48 AM) Permafry_42: hey
(07:46:55 AM) Lattsam: hey the stalkinghead
(07:46:55 AM) Power46: That is precisely why I said "Ah yes, this segment."
(07:46:58 AM) Fireflower: is this like the sword fighting insulting in MI?
(07:47:08 AM) Cheeseness: Fireflower: Not quite
(07:47:09 AM) Power46: Not really.
(07:47:22 AM) Cheeseness: But it's about matching dialogue, yeah
(07:47:24 AM) thestalkinghead: hey
(07:47:27 AM) Cheeseness: Hi hi
(07:47:29 AM) Fireflower: ok
(07:47:50 AM) Power46: Hello thestalkinghead.
(07:47:53 AM) Fireflower: hi
(07:48:46 AM) Cheeseness: lol, this guy always makes me laugh
(07:49:42 AM) Power46: IIRC, if you do a different option last you get slightly different dialog.
(07:50:17 AM) thestalkinghead: i was a bit late cause of stupid daylight savings :(
(07:50:27 AM) Cheeseness: >_<
(07:50:39 AM) Power46: That is unfortunate.
(07:50:42 AM) thestalkinghead: i mess up the time conversion
(07:51:33 AM) Cheeseness: thestalkinghead: There's a countdown timer on the page. If you click the link below, it'll give you a conversion for your local time zone (detected via IP, but it should be fine unless you're using a proxy in another country or something)
(07:52:08 AM) Sycoraxic98: Favorite song :)
(07:52:13 AM) Permafry_42: That was a pretty bad crash lol
(07:52:19 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(07:52:37 AM) Power46: Bulletproof tires, their reason for making the puzzle work differently than in episode 1.
(07:52:49 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah
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(07:53:06 AM) Permafry_42: when lacking a story reason, make a gag
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Meeps Meeps2
(07:53:19 AM) Cheeseness: Another Meeps!
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(07:53:24 AM) Permafry_42: adventure story telling 101
(07:53:28 AM) Meeps2: yeah, the first one is glitched out :o
(07:53:32 AM) Cheeseness: WHEE!!!
(07:54:10 AM) Power46: I didn't even notice the slight hook for the next episode until now.
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(07:54:17 AM) Cheeseness: I forgot about the factory
(07:54:55 AM) Power46: Season 2 made use of a lot of slightly modified areas. This is one of them.
(07:55:01 AM) Cheeseness: Mmm
(07:55:54 AM) Power46: Silly.
(07:55:58 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(07:56:14 AM) Power46: I like his death monolog.
(07:56:27 AM) Permafry_42: lol this is what i want to say before i die
(07:56:31 AM) Power46: especially since it gives you a hint as to what to do.
(07:57:09 AM) Cheeseness: Fred Basset >_<
(07:58:13 AM) Fireflower: why don't they make more unsolvable puzzles in adventure games?
(07:58:48 AM) Cheeseness: Telltale are pretty keen to avoid unsolvable and frustrating stuff
(07:59:12 AM) Permafry_42: developers are often afraid of disrupting the balence of challenge and fun
(07:59:52 AM) Power46: Because many in the industry, and I agree, Believe the use of unsolvable stuff is a sign of failing on the part of the developer.
(08:00:05 AM) GameClubFan_567892: The music reminds me of old Pink Panther and Tijuana Toads cartoons.
(08:00:27 AM) Cheeseness: Power46: I think it all depends on context
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(08:01:01 AM) udoncat: What is an example of the unsolvable puzzle? Do you mean like the Sierra ones if you miss something from the beginning you mess up late game?
(08:01:05 AM) Permafry_42: I think super meat boy shows you can increase difficulty and still make it fun so long as it's fair
(08:01:19 AM) Power46: At that point, if they add context, it means that it is no longer unsolvable.
(08:01:28 AM) Power46: It is then easier.
(08:01:31 AM) Fireflower: just a puzzle that's meant to be unsolvable
(08:01:43 AM) Fireflower: so you can't get any further in the game
(08:01:56 AM) Lattsam: Yeah
(08:01:57 AM) thestalkinghead: is it a puzzle if there is no solution?
(08:02:12 AM) Permafry_42: death?
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(08:02:33 AM) Permafry_42: sounds like the description of the puzzle of death
(08:02:38 AM) Fireflower: a puzzle with a missing part is still a puzzle? :)
(08:02:43 AM) Cheeseness: Fireflower: You mean so that you're forced to proceed in a different direction? "Meant to be unsolveable" is different to "possible to accidentally end up unsolveable"
(08:03:11 AM) Lattsam: Luckily, the puzzles in the Layton series aren't unsolveable
(08:03:18 AM) Lattsam: Difficult, maybe, but not unsolveable
(08:03:18 AM) Permafry_42: nice job on the stream syd!
(08:03:24 AM) Cheeseness: Thanks Syd ^_^
(08:03:30 AM) udoncat: They're just difficult :P
(08:03:30 AM) Meeps: thanks Syd!
(08:03:31 AM) Lattsam: congrats syd!
(08:03:31 AM) Fireflower: yeah, good job Syd
(08:03:47 AM) Power46: The second option Cheeseness presented is seen as a failing by most developers.
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(08:03:51 AM) Fireflower: Cheese: I don't really know what I meant :)
(08:03:55 AM) Power46: Good job Syd.
(08:04:08 AM) udoncat: Thanks for the stream Syd
(08:04:14 AM) Permafry_42: i think you're talking about deadends
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(08:04:21 AM) Cheeseness: Power46: Yeah, the industry doesn't like that sort of thing at the moment
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(08:04:43 AM) Power46: I know that Nintendo has never liked that.
(08:04:46 AM) Cheeseness: Although there are games (like Another World for example) which are about exploring those sorts of things and discovering the correct path
(08:04:48 AM) Lattsam: Well, that was a quick stream
(08:04:52 AM) Syd: No idea why those disconnects happened earlier. My internet seemed to be fine.
(08:04:55 AM) Cheeseness: An hour's a good length :)
(08:04:58 AM) Syd: Oh well. Yeah, it was a short episode.
(08:05:04 AM) Permafry_42: oh am i doing the stream next week instead of the 9th?
(08:05:15 AM) Fireflower: yeah, an hour is just right
(08:05:22 AM) Power46: I think Shigeru Miyamoto even spoke on that.
(08:05:51 AM) Cheeseness: Permafry_42: Oops, did I get mixed up? I thoughtthat was the plan
(08:06:06 AM) Permafry_42: doesn't matter; either works for me
(08:06:06 AM) Meeps: gotta run! have a good weekend everyone! :)
(08:06:12 AM) Power46: The first stream of this we stopped at the halfway mark so that we would have something to play today.
(08:06:15 AM) Syd: See ya, Meeps. :)
(08:06:19 AM) Fireflower: cu Meeps
(08:06:20 AM) Power46: Bye Meeps.
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(08:06:25 AM) Permafry_42: cya
(08:06:40 AM) Cheeseness: Ah geeze, I'd gotten mixed up with the dates in the planning thread
(08:06:46 AM) udoncat: Got to go too. Thanks for the stream and chat!
(08:06:48 AM) Syd: Twitch ate the archive for last week's stream, so I decided to start it over for this one
(08:06:55 AM) Fireflower: cya udoncat
(08:07:02 AM) Cheeseness: Thanks for coming, udoncat :D
(08:07:02 AM) Power46: Goodbye, udoncat.
(08:07:09 AM) udoncat: Bye