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  1. By Alexandra May Hunter in Global Council - Geo-Engineering Protest (Files) · Edit Doc
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  3. Paul, Mona and 7 others
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  5. Conversation started June 29
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  8. 9:33pm
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  10. Paul Mac
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  12. Hi All,
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  14. In discussion with Olga last night, we expressed some concerns with each other regarding the up coming Global March Against Chemtrails, many of us have asked the organisers to identify themselves , to date there has been nothing forthcoming in this regard, in fact I was told the following
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  16. "Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Way to go Paul, People really need to understand that this is a world issue and not just a local one. If you have any questions that are not found on our Fb page, any one here is qualified to respond to your messages and questions.No one person is in charge.We are a team of admins from around the globe that are committed to masking this event take off.If we can help in any way let us know. Cheers !"
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  18. As such and with security concerns in mind I have sent the following email to the organisers this morning to see if we cant get some clarity on the situation - As much as I personally want to engage the Aug 25th event, I think it only wise that we have disclosure from the Global team as to who is the team of admins that we are blindly following before proceeding any further down the road with them."
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  20. "Hi Global, I have been in discussion with a number of leaders in the movement around the world and several of them have expressed concerns that we do not know who is organising this event behind the scenes, as you are aware I have asked you to identify yourselves previously and got a negative response from you.
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  22. As leaders, we are clearly identifiable by our profiles and relationships through our groups and communities, I would like to ask all of you to do the same so we can see who we are dealing with and who is driving this behind the scenes. We are expecting a positive response for you in regards to this request and I am sure you will understand that we are only asking this so we may better protect our communities from any attacks from the shills and trolls who constantly plague us.
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  24. Look forward to hearing from you soon on this topic with a clear disclosure, cheers Paul Mac"
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  26. If you guys have any concerns about the above please feel free to let me know asap, cheers.
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  30. 9:39pm
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  32. Alexandra May Hunter
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  34. Thanks Paul
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  38. 10:36pm
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  40. Russ Tanner
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  42. It sounds like you're being prudent in this situation Paul. Please let me know how we can help.
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  46. 10:39pm
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  48. Paul Mac
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  50. I feel its called for Russ, failing a positive reply from these guys I'd like a mass approach from our global leaders and admins to get this verification, we are all out in the open and vulnerable, I dont see why these guys should be as well...will advise when I have a reply as yet the message has not been seen, cheers.
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  54. 10:39pm
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  56. Paul Mac
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  58. Shouldn't be*
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  62. 10:41pm
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  64. Russ Tanner
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  66. Very good.
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  70. 11:09pm
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  72. Kelly Daugherty
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  74. agreed
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  78. 11:11pm
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  80. Matt Mc
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  82. i have a feeling they are from Germany
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  84. hopefully you get a good response
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  88. 11:27pm
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  90. Mona Norman
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  92. Thank you Paul. X sending love from London.
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  96. 12:01am
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  98. Olga Raffa
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  100. Yes thanks Paul....I still have no positive response to my 2 requests either saying they "will come back to me" and this is valuable information with regard to protesting ..more to the point...rejection. Remember the chat we had with Mona's friend Paul.. to spread ourselves out with banners and information, unobstructing anything (then we can not be penned & controlled .. ie Bilderberg ) and we have a great united opportunity to educate & expose one to one via critical information. Let's see if they come forward. The time for pressure in court for this issue is nigh! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tWjgFEyaOU
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  105.  
  106. Robert Menard on Protesting
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  108. www.youtube.com
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  110. Robert Menard on Protesting I don't own the video, I just really like what Menard says about protesting and wanted to share it with others.
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  114. 12:04am
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  116. Olga Raffa
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  118. Also I asked which event they will be at...let's see.
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  120. 12:51am
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  122. Paul Mac
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  124. Still no reply, nor has the post been marked as seen, will keep you updated.
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  126. 12:58am
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  128. Paul Mac
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  130. Good clip Olga, and its something Ive always said when speaking at our protests is that we Reject what the government is doing, will make that a much stronger statement from no on tho....interestingly, they have not declared they are doing this so far, the premise above is that there is government position/policy on this when clearly there is currently not a clear position/policy in play.
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  132. 1:03am
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  134. Olga Raffa
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  136. Agreed, and as we speak the last details of governance are being put in place....We should be ready for this to demand enforcement of a Ban using valid facts backed by Government literature.
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  138. 1:06am
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  140. Paul Mac
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  142. June 30
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  144. 10:21am
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  146. Alexandra May Hunter
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  148. Here in the U.S, as we all know, John Holdren, the Science & Tech "Czar" removed Congressional oversight from the House Science & Technology Subcommittee on 1/1/11. The "governance" aspect of this currently in effect program has been well thought out and dealt with already. I am going to attach a couple of documents dealing with this for the U.S.. As we also know, there are also international organizations that have discussed the "governance" issue and there are documents reflecting all of that as well. All of this is predicated on the false reality that this is a future proposed program which we also know is a total lie. In case none of you have seen these documents here are a couple of them: https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41371.pdf
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  150. 10:21am
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  152. Alexandra May Hunter
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  154. http://www.gao.gov/assets/320/310105.pdf
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  156. http://www.gao.gov/assets/320/310105.pdf
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  158. www.gao.gov
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  162. 10:25am
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  164. Alexandra May Hunter
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  166. As far as international law this currently in effect violates the following treaty: http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1196a.html
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  168. CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION...
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  170. www.cuttingedge.org
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  172. Adopted by Resolution 31/72 of the United Nations General Assembly on 10 December 1976. The Convention was opened for signature at Geneva on 18 May 1977.
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  176. 10:27am
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  178. Alexandra May Hunter
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  180. Also here is the 2010 GAO Report on the "proposed" program: http://www.gao.gov/assets/320/310105.pdf
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  182. http://www.gao.gov/assets/320/310105.pdf
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  184. www.gao.gov
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  186. Alexandra May Hunter
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  188. As you will see in the above document the same cast of characters are used (i.e.; Caldiera and Keith) for all of the "studies" done by the various govt. departments/agencies.
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  190. 10:39am
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  192. Alexandra May Hunter
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  194. Just a couple more documents folks in case you have not seen. Helps all of you who are part of the global leaders to understand the orchestration & history of this murder plot. On this page you see the 2009 report, however further down are more current reports from 2012. http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12595
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  196. Restructuring Federal Climate Research to Meet the Challenges of Climate Change
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  198. www.nap.edu
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  200. Climate change is one of the most important global environmental problems facing the world today. Policy decisions are already being made to limit or adapt to climate change and its impacts, but there is a need for greater integration between science and decision making. This book proposes six prior...
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  204. 10:46am
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  206. Alexandra May Hunter
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  208. Finally: Here's the 2013 Report issued by John Holdren's office, U.S. Global Change Research Program ("USGCRP") Holdren is driving this from the executive branch and the pentagon/air force are implementing it. I advise that ALL of these documents be posted to the web sites so the public have access to them: http://library.globalchange.gov/our-changing-planet-2013
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  210. Our Changing Planet: The Fiscal Year 2013 U.S. Global Change Research Program
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  212. library.globalchange.gov
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  214. <p>Since 1990, the United States Global Change Research Program (USGCRP) has developed and submitted an annual report, Our Changing Planet, to Congress describing the current state of the USGCRP and ongoing Federal research activities focused on global ch
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  218. 1:24pm
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  220. Paul Mac
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  222. Good stuff Alexandra, thanks for the links - Nothing in my emails this morning from Global, nor any indication they have seen my request.
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  224. 1:28pm
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  226. Alexandra May Hunter
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  228. Paul-- as usual I'm in contact with Dane on a daily basis. He's reviewing a bunch of this stuff and will be responding on his web site. It's critical that we keep informing the public that they're being deceived by this genocidal murderers.
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  230. 1:30pm
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  232. Paul Mac
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  234. Very much so Alexandra, that is most certainly the plan downunder.
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  236. 1:32pm
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  238. Alexandra May Hunter
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  240. Paul-there's SO many other documents that I have and that I have reviewed. I think these most recent ones are the most relevant at this time. Also, thanks for checking into this. As you know we have all been up front with who we are. Thank you for going down this rabbit hole for us.
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  242. 1:34pm
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  244. Paul Mac
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  246. No worries Alexandra, it needed to be done, will stay on it till we get a result, cheers.
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  248. 2:04pm
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  250. Olga Raffa
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  252. Yes, many thanks from the UK for the most recent and relevant Alexandra, will share your links and keep an eye on Danes site for updates. Also thanks to Paul, for taking this in hand. Keep well.
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  254. July 2
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  256. 12:23pm
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  258. Alexandra May Hunter
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  260. today is 7/2/13--I just posted this on their page: "Who are the people who have organized this protest? Nobody seems to know. The lead global activists for this issue are all transparent about their identities. We'd like to know who the people are that have organized this event."
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  262. 1:47pm
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  264. Paul Mac
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  266. Re emailed this morning "protestagainstgeoengineering@gmail.com"
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  268. 1:48pm
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  270. Paul Mac
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  272. Paul Mac Global, you have had several days to respond to this message now and have chosen not to, this leaves us in a very awkward position seeing as I gave emailed you to your other address with the same result, please disclose who you are asap, thank you.
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  274. 06:46 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Hi Paul - please dont worry - we will come back to you in email
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  276. 1:49pm
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  278. Alexandra May Hunter
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  280. how can we endorse and promote this unless we know who these people are?
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  282. 1:50pm
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  284. Paul Mac
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  286. I agree Lexie, these simpleton responses are bullshit
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  288. 1:50pm
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  290. Alexandra May Hunter
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  292. how are we to know this is not a set up?
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  294. they have collected the data for the groups participating and specifically when and where the individual groups meeting points. this may be legit but if so why are they being transparent?
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  296. 1:53pm
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  298. Sheryll Thomas
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  300. I am in total agreement with you Alexandra
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  302. 1:54pm
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  304. Alexandra May Hunter
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  306. excuse me I meant why are they not being transparent? we have all put ourselves out in the public domain and this a risk we have all agreed to take for our own personal safety and well being
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  308. 1:57pm
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  310. Sheryll Thomas
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  312. I also meant I share your concerns also
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  314. 1:58pm
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  316. Alexandra May Hunter
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  318. I have absolutely NO tolerance for ANYONE who gives me the run around--we are dealing with the most vicious ruthless criminals on this planet-I expect direct answers to my questions. This is NOT a tea party--our issue is about global genocide and the global cover up of this.
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  320. 1:58pm
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  322. Paul Mac
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  324. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering But why is this so imporant to you? - We are simple people and all in same boat - why identity is so important for you - we dont want name and fame - we only want to serve. So why you are angry on us ? You want it ASAP ? What is this angry mood ? Its not nice at all - we did not do anything to you - we just gave platform for this event - why you are angry like this ???
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  326. 06:52 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering And besides this - we were very much bussy ...
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  328. 06:58 Paul Mac Global, you claim to be admins and yet you are not out in the open with the rest of the leaders, you need to stand with us so we can see you, please do so now before this goes further....Yes we are angry and we are frustrated...your silent position breeds mistrust and tells us you are a plant, spill the beans now please.
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  330. 1:58pm
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  332. Paul Mac
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  334. Grrrrrrrr!
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  336. 1:59pm
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  338. Alexandra May Hunter
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  340. We have been upfront and if they don't come clean I will not endorse this action because of my concern of people's safety
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  342. 1:59pm
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  344. Paul Mac
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  346. I will go ahead with the 25th in Melbs but not under this banner, Ive already shelved the 20th of July for this and now feel quite sick about that
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  348. 2:01pm
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  350. Alexandra May Hunter
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  352. are these guys Germans? the vid they did today seems to be coming from somebody in Germany
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  354. 2:01pm
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  356. Paul Mac
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  358. dunno
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  360. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering a plant ? what is meaning of this ?
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  362. 2:02pm
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  364. Alexandra May Hunter
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  366. hmmm--well I have a problem with anyone who does not identify with who they are
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  368. Paul--feel free to tell them that ALL of the lead activists here in the U.S. have been completely up front with who we are
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  370. and of course the other leaders from the other countries as well!
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  372. 2:07pm
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  374. Paul Mac
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  376. Paul Mac Global....you have had your chance, you either identify yourselves to us now or the leaders of the real global movement will move against you...make up your mind and stop with the simpleton answers.
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  378. 07:06 Paul Mac its pretty straight forward....all of us are exposed...so you should be too if you claim to stand with us and organise, then we need to know who you are...now, either tell us who you are or we expose you as a fraud....I can guarantee you every single person who understands that you will not tell us who you are will not be happy about it ...for the very reason that they have a facebook profile and are clearly visable for who they are, yet you choose to hide in the shadows....real leaders dont do that ....make your choice very quickly, because a lot of people are about to swing against this.
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  380. 2:08pm
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  382. Paul Mac
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  384. perhaps this is what they want...but I have to call the bluff
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  386. 2:10pm
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  388. Alexandra May Hunter
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  390. there's a group that's been assembled down here in Phoenix but NO WAY are we going to get on board with this unless they show transparency...
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  392. 2:12pm
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  394. Paul Mac
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  396. Melbourne will for the date, its to far organised for ppl to uncommit + we have already lost the 20th of July...but it will be under our own banner
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  398. 2:16pm
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  400. Paul Mac
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  402. Paul Mac We require your complete disclosure, no one will March against anything unless we know who you are...you need to tell us asap, failure to do so will result in many groups either pulling out or re organising under known leaders, we simply will not trust people who will not stand with us in the open and we would be stupid to do so...if you cannot see this simple fact then I have to question your honesty and integrity.
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  404. 2:23pm
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  406. Paul Mac
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  408. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Leaders of real global movement will move against you - you had your chance, we are angry, we are frustrated, we are annoyed - OMG - Do you realy think we like to talk to people who talk like this to us ??? We never did anything wrong and this is not a question of Ego !!! And we dont want to be in the open because this is not a game at all - can you not respect this ? Anyway - we will disclose one admin to you. But if it needs this to build up trust then we dont see much hope at all. Already in beginning mistrust came - if faith is not there then nothing is there !!! Why you need to see and have proofe to have faith? Your faith will be easily scattered if your faith is only very weak - anyway - here is profile of one of our admins - be surprised !!! https://www.facebook.com/mohinipriya.devidasi
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  410. Mohini Priya Devi Dasi
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  412. 2:24pm
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  414. Paul Mac
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  416. Paul Mac We require full disclosure, no one will stand with someone who hides, you either give us all your admins names and profiles or we disband you...we have faith and trust in who we can see and speak too, not in people who hid behind a banner and pretend to lead
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  418. 2:28pm
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  420. Paul Mac
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  422. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering You know - you sound like a police officer .... And now trust is not on our side any longer
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  424. 07:28 Paul Mac You have seen my video and heard my interviews, I am a bonafide activist in this movement with good connections...you on the other hand are an unknown person who is hiding behind a banner...who do you think the people will believe?
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  426. 2:30pm
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  428. Paul Mac
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  430. If trust is no longer onside here...I call bullshit and want to have a full on go at them for this.....
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  432. 2:35pm
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  434. Paul Mac
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  436. Paul Mac Where is your activism, where are your credentials, who are you and why should the leaders of the movement commit to following you , an unknown quantity, we worry that you are a government operation and you tell us that we have lost your trust, where was the trust to begin with?.
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  438. 07:33 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering why are you talking to me soo badly - ??? A bonafide aktivist you might be but you are also very much bonafide in ego i could understand very much. You please keep your name and fame and go on with your movement -- if you want to join - then you are very much welcome - if not thats up to you !!! we are not famous like you - but we dont care for this name and fame - we just wanted to help - thats all - if you want to do it your way - please go ahead - and we are not hiding behind a banner either - we choose the banner to bring people together but you seem to want split the people - whatever - its your choice ...
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  440. 07:34 Paul Mac Its not about splitting, its about standing together
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  442. 2:37pm
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  444. Paul Mac
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  446. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering And i send you profile you wanted - thanks to you and fb now also police will know - But i dont mind !!! But please respect people who do mind !!! Radhe ShyaaaaaM
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  448. 07:37 Paul Mac And you dont think the police know about us? we have had threats, watchers, helicopters over our houses and you worry about the police knowing...well they already know, they have your computer IP address, they know where you live and what you you do....but the people you want to unite behind you, they dont know, to them you are a faceless, nameless shadow who could very well be the police YOU fear.
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  450. 2:38pm
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  452. Olga Raffa
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  454. I even asked them which event they would be at, and they said they would get back to me on Sat, but no reply, so if they do not even want to disclose which event they will be at... why are they so surprised we are getting frustrated?
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  456. They are playing very innocent, Gandi put himself out there...
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  458. 2:39pm
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  460. Paul Mac
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  462. agreed
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  464. 2:46pm
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  466. Paul Mac
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  468. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering OMG - Paul !!! I am a simple girl - ok - and I am not a GREAT AKTIVIST either - ok ??? - I just set up the platform for this - someone else could have easily done this also - but it so happened that i did it - what to say - now its going - either you all help in this or if you dont want - then this your choice !!! What to do - ok ??? https://www.facebook.com/mohinipriya.devidasi
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  470. Mohini Priya Devi Dasi Works at Krishna Tempel Berlin ISKCON e.V. Female
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  472. 07:46 Paul Mac Did Ghandi worry about hiding to protect himself....are the leaders of the movement worrying about the police and who might see them or come against them...NO...so why should you....??? we only ask, that you stand out in the open with your brothers and sisters, that you are accountable as we are…if you do this you will have our full support and we can grow what we are doing, if you fail us, what are we to think?
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  474. Mohini Priya Devi Dasi
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  476. 2:50pm
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  478. Paul Mac
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  480. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Here is my profile - so please be happy with this ok? I am the BIG activist behind this all - so please be happy ...
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  482. 2:54pm
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  484. Paul Mac
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  486. Paul Mac Are you saying its just you alone?
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  488. 07:51 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Big surprise ??? - Actually we are two ... And now no one will join because i am not BIG activist and an girl only ...right ??? Better I would be hidden behind banner - right ???
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  490. 2:54pm
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  492. Paul Mac
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  494. ladies am i being emotionally played here? feels like it
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  496. whats my comeback
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  498. am at work running out of time so your attention here would be appreciated, sorry
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  500. 2:56pm
  501.  
  502. Olga Raffa
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  504. Her profile looks genuine, but to organize a global event and want to be anonymous is surprising but possible...I wonder where she is located, and which March will she be at, the non communication with me is odd... but she has come forward... perhaps ask what she is doing with her government? I don't exactly know what else to say at the moment
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  506. 2:57pm
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  508. Paul Mac
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  510. India, according to her work place
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  512. 2:57pm
  513.  
  514. Sheryll Thomas
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  516. On her profile it says she belongs to alot of groups situated in Delhi but it also says she is employed by the Krishna in Berlin
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  518. 2:58pm
  519.  
  520. Paul Mac
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  522. https://www.facebook.com/pages/SAVE-YAMUNA-RIVER-NEWS/272170489549891
  523.  
  524. SAVE YAMUNA RIVER - NEWS
  525.  
  526. A humble attempt to collect News on SAVE YAMUNA CAMPAIGN in national/international Media covering chronological order of events. Please like and spread this page. Please visit www.saveyamuna.org to find out more about this noble cause. There is actually NO Yamuna River in Braj, Gokul, and Vrindava...
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  528. Page: 735 like this
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  530. 2:59pm
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  532. Paul Mac
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  534. so??? I am in the corner here with her, the emotional card has been played...what now?
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  536. 2:59pm
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  538. Sheryll Thomas
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  540. I think you need to reassure her that it is not just men that are involved in our groups, that we also have women leaders,
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  542. 2:59pm
  543.  
  544. Olga Raffa
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  546. Are there any marches in India if she is so connected?
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  548. did she send you that page?
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  550. 3:00pm
  551.  
  552. Paul Mac
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  554. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Big surprise ??? - Actually we are two ... And now no one will join because i am not BIG activist and an girl only ...right ??? Better I would be hidden behind banner - right ??? So what about you now ?
  555.  
  556. 08:00 Paul Mac I am in discussion with 12 people , they are all privvy to this conversation, please understand we are only doing this for the movements good, we dont wish to be led astray by unknown people..... What March will you be attending personally?
  557.  
  558. 3:00pm
  559.  
  560. Paul Mac
  561.  
  562. no i got it off her profile Olga
  563.  
  564. 3:01pm
  565.  
  566. Olga Raffa
  567.  
  568. India will get hit harder soon with the weather extremes,
  569.  
  570. 3:05pm
  571.  
  572. Paul Mac
  573.  
  574. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Hey Paul - Speechless ??? Sorry to dissapoint your expctation of someone big behind this all ... Still hoping for your cooperation - please join in with all Australia - please dont split this effort !!!
  575.  
  576. 08:05 Paul Mac I had no expectation other than your name, I am not concerned about your gender or the size of your organisation, my only concern here is for the 1000’s of people who know and trust me for who I am and what I do, they trust me to not lead them astray, they trust me to do my utmost in leading and guiding them….that is all I am concerned about Mohini.
  577.  
  578. 3:06pm
  579.  
  580. Paul Mac
  581.  
  582. I dont like being emotionally played by women, please give me some advise here ladies
  583.  
  584. advice?
  585.  
  586. 3:09pm
  587.  
  588. Olga Raffa
  589.  
  590. It just seems odd never to have seen her in any groups
  591.  
  592. 3:09pm
  593.  
  594. Sheryll Thomas
  595.  
  596. She has only clicked "like" to groups never joined
  597.  
  598. 3:09pm
  599.  
  600. Olga Raffa
  601.  
  602. which march will she be on?
  603.  
  604. 3:10pm
  605.  
  606. Paul Mac
  607.  
  608. I have seen this profile...in fact I thought it very sus when it friend requested me Two weeks back and rejected it
  609.  
  610. asking again
  611.  
  612. 3:10pm
  613.  
  614. Sheryll Thomas
  615.  
  616. she didnt answer that question, she has changed tracks, I say let the dust settle right now
  617.  
  618. 3:12pm
  619.  
  620. Olga Raffa
  621.  
  622. Humm, well perhaps we can just make an announcement to the individual groups with the facts we have, and let every one decide what they do
  623.  
  624. 3:12pm
  625.  
  626. Alexandra May Hunter
  627.  
  628. Paul--I'd back off--I think she's playing you--as I suspected I think these are German
  629.  
  630. 3:13pm
  631.  
  632. Paul Mac
  633.  
  634. Paul Mac What march will you be attending Mohini?
  635.  
  636. 08:11 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Yesss - sure - i understand - but you see - all this is also very pretty new for me and i dont know about all this police stuff and internet and all so i did not realy want to come forward - ok ? But now its ok - i do not fear anything at all and i would be glad if you could take the lead of Australia in this whole campaign - i am very much unexperienced - just trying my best - ok ? So please - i am very much open for any kind of suggestions - I have some background of campaigns - recently involved in campaign in India to save a holy river that was pretty much well going with 100 000 people on the streets on a March for 2 weeks with very much News Coverage and debate in parliament for 2 days and partial fullfillment of our demands. That was quite good - but very much different with our situation now. India is very much different and situation was very much different...but i saw that simple people can get things moving.
  637.  
  638. 3:14pm
  639.  
  640. Paul Mac
  641.  
  642. I’ll take it away from her then , tell her we are taking this under advisement , perhaps sweat her for a day or two before coming back to her, see what that produces?...
  643.  
  644. 3:14pm
  645.  
  646. Sheryll Thomas
  647.  
  648. Exactly, let things settle
  649.  
  650. 3:14pm
  651.  
  652. Alexandra May Hunter
  653.  
  654. Paul--sorry I stepped away--is this person saying it's just 2 ladies behind this?
  655.  
  656. 3:15pm
  657.  
  658. Paul Mac
  659.  
  660. Ladies, I am at work and this is costing me time in the morning as my office fills up I will no longer be able to hold this conversation, I really need your attention and input here
  661.  
  662. yes Lexie two of them
  663.  
  664. other as yet unknown
  665.  
  666. 3:16pm
  667.  
  668. Olga Raffa
  669.  
  670. That video was quite professional for 2 krishna ladies
  671.  
  672. video
  673.  
  674. 3:16pm
  675.  
  676. Paul Mac
  677.  
  678. Paul Mac So what march will you be attending?
  679.  
  680. 08:16 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering I think we have internet time gap here sometimes - sometimes your answers come later than mine - I am based in Germany - so I will take to a March in Germany
  681.  
  682. 3:17pm
  683.  
  684. Sheryll Thomas
  685.  
  686. Olga do you mean this video
  687.  
  688. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEjSnVCuPJE
  689.  
  690. 3:18pm
  691.  
  692. Alexandra May Hunter
  693.  
  694. I concur with Olga and Sheryll--walk away for the time being and the others in this convo should review it and weigh in. that's my 2 cents.
  695.  
  696. 3:18pm
  697.  
  698. Paul Mac
  699.  
  700. she has skype, can I put you ladies onto her for further discussion , I really have to go my work day is kicking in
  701.  
  702. 3:19pm
  703.  
  704. Sheryll Thomas
  705.  
  706. So she is based in berlin at the Krishna
  707.  
  708. 3:19pm
  709.  
  710. Mona Norman
  711.  
  712. I agree step back for now x
  713.  
  714. 3:19pm
  715.  
  716. Alexandra May Hunter
  717.  
  718. thanks Mona
  719.  
  720. 3:20pm
  721.  
  722. Sheryll Thomas
  723.  
  724. Its the only thing to do at this time, she keeps changing her story to suit
  725.  
  726. 3:20pm
  727.  
  728. Paul Mac
  729.  
  730. Please give me your skype addresses and I will ask her to add you etc, If a woman talks to her now it will be far less threatening
  731.  
  732. Ok shall ask for her skype address and tell her we are taking it under advisement and need to discuss with others.
  733.  
  734. 3:23pm
  735.  
  736. Sheryll Thomas
  737.  
  738. Exactly Paul..
  739.  
  740. 3:23pm
  741.  
  742. Olga Raffa
  743.  
  744. sound good
  745.  
  746. s
  747.  
  748. 3:23pm
  749.  
  750. Sheryll Thomas
  751.  
  752. Olga was that the video you saw?
  753.  
  754. 3:24pm
  755.  
  756. Olga Raffa
  757.  
  758. yes, why does she not know which march in Germany, thinking Mona and Alexandra have it right, but would like to discuss
  759.  
  760. 3:25pm
  761.  
  762. Sheryll Thomas
  763.  
  764. A guy under the alias of 53sickpig made that video
  765.  
  766. http://www.youtube.com/user/53Sickpig
  767.  
  768. 3:26pm
  769.  
  770. Olga Raffa
  771.  
  772. Let's leave it for now and assess with others thoughts, thanks all.x
  773.  
  774. 3:27pm
  775.  
  776. Sheryll Thomas
  777.  
  778. Ciao, xx
  779.  
  780. 3:30pm
  781.  
  782. Paul Mac
  783.  
  784. Paul Mac do you have skype?
  785.  
  786. 08:18 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering yes
  787.  
  788. 08:24 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering hi paul - i saw i missed something in our conversation - there is always something like a time chat gap ...hmmmm
  789.  
  790. 08:28 Paul Mac whats that>?
  791.  
  792. 08:29 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Hi Paul - i answered your friends request ...
  793.  
  794. 08:29 Paul Mac ok thanks
  795.  
  796. 08:30 Paul Mac Mohini, in discussion with the other admin, we respectfully ask for your skype address, one of our female admins will add you and be in touch in the near future, thank you for your conversation. Our council will now spend some time talking about this, given we are spread over many time zones it will be 24 hours before we have all had time to digest this conversation and get back to you, my thanks for sharing as you have….I am sure you understand that we are only concerned for the welfare of the people we look after and that we are just trying to do the right thing….this is not any easy task for any of us, no disrespect has been intended by me toward you.
  797.  
  798. 3:31pm
  799.  
  800. Sheryll Thomas
  801.  
  802. Excellent
  803.  
  804. 3:33pm
  805.  
  806. Paul Mac
  807.  
  808. Have also given her my skype address as a show of faith….I guess we shall see now, I have to go at this point, will spend some time checking her profile later, of Sheryll can jump into my account and check it out further now (thx hun xox)
  809.  
  810. 3:33pm
  811.  
  812. Sheryll Thomas
  813.  
  814. I am checking out her profile now hun
  815.  
  816. 3:38pm
  817.  
  818. Paul Mac
  819.  
  820. whats my skype addy hun mac.paul671 or macpaul671
  821.  
  822. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering ok - i understand - will keep in touch - my skype is Mohini Priya ( mohini_priya ) what is you time right now ? - just to know time difference There is no skype for mac.paul671 ????
  823.  
  824. 3:40pm
  825.  
  826. Alexandra May Hunter
  827.  
  828. there's 3 persons by this name on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/vsearch/p?orig=SEO_SN&firstName=Mohini&lastName=Priya&trk=SEO_SN
  829.  
  830. 3:45pm
  831.  
  832. Alexandra May Hunter
  833.  
  834. google results: https://encrypted.google.com/#gs_rn=19&gs_ri=psy-ab&gs_mss=%20Mohini%20Priya&tok=ZvzLBkg3ldT_4n9IYulDPw&cp=21&gs_id=1sx&xhr=t&q=%20Mohini%20Priya%20germany&es_nrs=true&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=+Mohini+Priya+germany&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48705608,d.cGE&fp=de257cab6699895b&biw=1600&bih=796
  835.  
  836. 3:47pm
  837.  
  838. Sheryll Thomas
  839.  
  840. This is where she says she works
  841.  
  842. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Krishna-Tempel-Berlin-ISKCON-eV/136321179794326
  843.  
  844. 3:52pm
  845.  
  846. Alexandra May Hunter
  847.  
  848. here's there "about": We do festivals with traditional mantra live music to dance and sing along at the time of different places in Berlin. Philosophy of the Vedic scriptures and a vegetarian snacks are usually part of the three-to four-hour program - sometimes with slide show, movie or play. Currently we are looking for a new temple, so have no point of contact in Berlin. Website and phone still remain.
  849.  
  850. 3:55pm
  851.  
  852. Sheryll Thomas
  853.  
  854. https://www.facebook.com/GundicaMandirJena this is her other employment
  855.  
  856. 3:56pm
  857.  
  858. Paul Mac
  859.  
  860. Ok guys I am out of here and so is Mohini….some food for thought here, please have a think about all of this and come back to me with a consensus, am at work just now so this will have to wait 6 or so hours before I can discuss further, I have told her we will come back to her within 24 hours, I have her on skype her addy checks out….while I am still suss, she is slowly checking out?? Talk to you later…bye
  861.  
  862. 3:58pm
  863.  
  864. Sheryll Thomas
  865.  
  866. http://www.gundica.de/
  867.  
  868. 4:10pm
  869.  
  870. Alexandra May Hunter
  871.  
  872. OK--at one point she says at the end of a comment: "Radne ShyaaaaaM" WTH? I get a temple in Bloomingdale, Illinois
  873.  
  874. 4:11pm
  875.  
  876. Sheryll Thomas
  877.  
  878. I am thinking that when she changed to the krishna faith she was given this name
  879.  
  880. 4:12pm
  881.  
  882. Olga Raffa
  883.  
  884. They have this web page....impressive eh? http://globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com/events.html
  885.  
  886. Global March Against Chemtrails And Geoengineering.com
  887.  
  888. globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com
  889.  
  890. CANADA - ONTARIO ( Cambridge ) https://www.facebook.com/events/389796134458188/ CANADA - ( Winnipeg ) https://www.facebook.com/events/512418075473991/
  891.  
  892.  
  893.  
  894. 4:13pm
  895.  
  896. Sheryll Thomas
  897.  
  898. Yes I have looked at that, all of our sites are clearly displayed there
  899.  
  900. 4:14pm
  901.  
  902. Alexandra May Hunter
  903.  
  904. Yeah and that vid they just put out is not amateurish...
  905.  
  906. 4:16pm
  907.  
  908. Sheryll Thomas
  909.  
  910. Yes well the guy that made that video had made many such videos before... 53sickpig
  911.  
  912. 4:16pm
  913.  
  914. Olga Raffa
  915.  
  916. she does not add up to me..with the professional work behind it and saying 2 women and acting all surprised...
  917.  
  918. 4:18pm
  919.  
  920. Sheryll Thomas
  921.  
  922. I am checking out the German sites
  923.  
  924. Not a mention of her at all
  925.  
  926. 4:27pm
  927.  
  928. Alexandra May Hunter
  929.  
  930. the voices on those vids are a german male
  931.  
  932. 4:29pm
  933.  
  934. Alexandra May Hunter
  935.  
  936. this other group she "works for" just joined FB in April? https://www.facebook.com/GundicaMandirJena/info
  937.  
  938. Gundica Mandir JENA
  939.  
  940. Dies ist die Seite des Gundica Mandiras - ein kleines Nama Hatta in Jena, welches jetzt seit 2003 besteht. Wir freuen uns auf alle, die sich für indische Mantra Meditation interessieren, gerne Bhajans singen und gerne einmal etwas tiefer in die alten Weisheiten vedischer Philosophie eintauchen möcht...
  941.  
  942. Page: 365 like this
  943.  
  944. 4:38pm
  945.  
  946. Alexandra May Hunter
  947.  
  948. Jena is a small village in India. IF she lives in Germany how can she work for a group of Krishna's in India that operate out of a small village in India. Here's what the about stuff says about the group, "his is the page of Gundica Mandiras - a small Nama Hatta in Jena, which is now since 2003. We look forward to all who are interested in Indian mantra meditation, like to sing bhajans and would like to once again delve a little deeper into the ancient wisdom of Vedic philosophy or simply to the treasures of a thousand year old culture are just curious. For this reason, we regularly organize spiritual Progame with Indian Bhajans, spiritual lectures and vegetarian feast to which everyone is welcome. So check it out - we look forward to seeing you. See you soon Gundica team."
  949.  
  950. 4:39pm
  951.  
  952. Sheryll Thomas
  953.  
  954. Its getting a tad messy, what I would like to know is whom is behind her, no way has she done this on her own
  955.  
  956. 4:40pm
  957.  
  958. Olga Raffa
  959.  
  960. exactly
  961.  
  962. 4:41pm
  963.  
  964. Sheryll Thomas
  965.  
  966. All this work done since 11 June 2013....
  967.  
  968. 4:41pm
  969.  
  970. Olga Raffa
  971.  
  972. 4:41pm
  973.  
  974. Alexandra May Hunter
  975.  
  976. OK--well I tried to look into what we information we were given here
  977.  
  978. 4:41pm
  979.  
  980. Sheryll Thomas
  981.  
  982. ditto here also
  983.  
  984. 4:42pm
  985.  
  986. Alexandra May Hunter
  987.  
  988. Shreyll--what do you mean by all this work done since june11 2013?
  989.  
  990. 4:42pm
  991.  
  992. Sheryll Thomas
  993.  
  994. all the sites were formed on that day or later
  995.  
  996. 4:43pm
  997.  
  998. Olga Raffa
  999.  
  1000. I think we can come to the conclusion this in controlled, but we do now have a list of global groups we can connect with!
  1001.  
  1002. 4:43pm
  1003.  
  1004. Sheryll Thomas
  1005.  
  1006. I am referring to the Global march sites
  1007.  
  1008. Only if the links work Olga, Paul just told me he asked her not to display our Aussies groups and some of the sites wont work as most of ours are closed groups
  1009.  
  1010. I just got to a group in Canada
  1011.  
  1012. Alexandria, Egypt opens also
  1013.  
  1014. Can someone try an aussie group for me please
  1015.  
  1016. http://globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com/events.html
  1017.  
  1018. 4:49pm
  1019.  
  1020. Olga Raffa
  1021.  
  1022. People have been joining in the last month so June is not surprising...people are getting inspired and joining but this is controlled it feels like. It's her attitude and talking of police... and acting all innocent... The banner says march but the website says protest ...very professional, so who is the other lady?
  1023.  
  1024. 4:50pm
  1025.  
  1026. Sheryll Thomas
  1027.  
  1028. Paul said he is going to ask her exactly tat Olga
  1029.  
  1030. that*
  1031.  
  1032. 4:52pm
  1033.  
  1034. Olga Raffa
  1035.  
  1036. Remember Mona, Urban Hippy came out of nowhere... this lady is not discussing in the groups it's controlled, that's my conclusion.
  1037.  
  1038. 4:53pm
  1039.  
  1040. Mona Norman
  1041.  
  1042. I will speak to you tomorrow Olga. X
  1043.  
  1044. 4:53pm
  1045.  
  1046. Sheryll Thomas
  1047.  
  1048. She well maybe just a front for something bigger or more sinister
  1049.  
  1050. Hi Mona
  1051.  
  1052. 4:53pm
  1053.  
  1054. Olga Raffa
  1055.  
  1056. OK Mona, yes Sheryll, it's clear to me.
  1057.  
  1058. 4:54pm
  1059.  
  1060. Sheryll Thomas
  1061.  
  1062. Imagine the data base they could collect from all of us
  1063.  
  1064. 4:54pm
  1065.  
  1066. Alexandra May Hunter
  1067.  
  1068. the german dude in those vids doesn't sound like a krisha guy...
  1069.  
  1070. 4:54pm
  1071.  
  1072. Sheryll Thomas
  1073.  
  1074. no far from it Alexandra
  1075.  
  1076. 5:03pm
  1077.  
  1078. Alexandra May Hunter
  1079.  
  1080. OK--I tried both the links for Hawaii--I know peeps on Maui and they are not participating in this--that link goes nowhere--and the other Hawaii link goes nowhere--check it out
  1081.  
  1082. 5:04pm
  1083.  
  1084. Sheryll Thomas
  1085.  
  1086. I have tried a couple and they lead to a global march page in the country I chose
  1087.  
  1088. 5:05pm
  1089.  
  1090. Olga Raffa
  1091.  
  1092. You are right about Maui though.
  1093.  
  1094. 5:06pm
  1095.  
  1096. Sheryll Thomas
  1097.  
  1098. Page not found
  1099.  
  1100. Maine opens
  1101.  
  1102. Alix has been invited the attend the Dallas march....
  1103.  
  1104. Max is attending in Glasgow...
  1105.  
  1106. Interesting quote " We have some amazing high end talent behind this project that you just have to see ! "
  1107.  
  1108. 5:11pm
  1109.  
  1110. Alexandra May Hunter
  1111.  
  1112. Looking at the Tucson page--here's a couple posts: "Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Some words from our friends: "Greetings friends and welcome. We are more then happy at Chemtrail Research to promote this Worldwide Chemtrail Geoengineering Protest and help you all out in any way we can along the way. People keep asking us on our Facebook page what they can do to help, and we keep... Page: 5,014 like this"
  1113.  
  1114. 5:13pm
  1115.  
  1116. Alexandra May Hunter
  1117.  
  1118. then they tell the guy who set up tucson this: "Hi Branden - Greetings from GMACAG - maybe it will be good idea if you could please put this two videos on top of your eventpage together with little invitation text and fix it there as fixed post so that it will not go down - If people will link your page and invite their friends even very new people who dont know anything about the matter will understand everything very easily and may come forward more easily What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length)
  1119.  
  1120. 5:14pm
  1121.  
  1122. Sheryll Thomas
  1123.  
  1124. it is sounding more and more like a selling pitch...
  1125.  
  1126. 5:16pm
  1127.  
  1128. Alexandra May Hunter
  1129.  
  1130. I'm just looking at the list of those going in Tucson and then the maybe list--some german dude from South Africa???? Ladies, LOL just tell me if you think I shoudl stop going down the rabbit hole here...
  1131.  
  1132. 5:16pm
  1133.  
  1134. Olga Raffa
  1135.  
  1136. I think it's adding up...it should be exposed sooner the better,
  1137.  
  1138. 5:17pm
  1139.  
  1140. Sheryll Thomas
  1141.  
  1142. I am certainly not going to stop till I find out more
  1143.  
  1144. 5:18pm
  1145.  
  1146. Olga Raffa
  1147.  
  1148. not stop just let people be very aware
  1149.  
  1150. I'm not going to say anything until we have all discussed this in depth
  1151.  
  1152. 5:18pm
  1153.  
  1154. Sheryll Thomas
  1155.  
  1156. Paul wants one of us to have a chat with Mohini
  1157.  
  1158. It would be advisable not to chat with anyone but this group until we have facts
  1159.  
  1160. 5:23pm
  1161.  
  1162. Alexandra May Hunter
  1163.  
  1164. not me--I won't do it!
  1165.  
  1166. 5:23pm
  1167.  
  1168. Sheryll Thomas
  1169.  
  1170. I am up for it, with Paul next to me
  1171.  
  1172. 5:24pm
  1173.  
  1174. Alexandra May Hunter
  1175.  
  1176. I'm now gonna check with 2 legit arizona activists I do know to ascertain if they know of anyone in this Tucson group!
  1177.  
  1178. 5:24pm
  1179.  
  1180. Olga Raffa
  1181.  
  1182. I won't say anything , I'm not involved in organising a march, and will take the groups lead. We should talk to her and the other lady, but if it is controlled they could be watching our conversation here..out of my depth here, I just emailed them because I wanted to touch base with someone from the page!
  1183.  
  1184. 5:25pm
  1185.  
  1186. Alexandra May Hunter
  1187.  
  1188. Russ Tanner is an IT expert--he can check out the origin of the web site if he has time
  1189.  
  1190. 5:25pm
  1191.  
  1192. Olga Raffa
  1193.  
  1194. great.
  1195.  
  1196. 5:25pm
  1197.  
  1198. Alexandra May Hunter
  1199.  
  1200. I do NOT give a crap if we're being watched in here--GOOD! let them see we're not idiots! LOL
  1201.  
  1202. 5:27pm
  1203.  
  1204. Olga Raffa
  1205.  
  1206. Haha to be expected anyways...
  1207.  
  1208. 5:28pm
  1209.  
  1210. Sheryll Thomas
  1211.  
  1212. I reckon Russ could check their IP etc out
  1213.  
  1214. 5:29pm
  1215.  
  1216. Russ Tanner
  1217.  
  1218. If you have an IP, I'll be happy to check it out - off to dinner - back in a little bit for forgive if I don't get right back.
  1219.  
  1220. 5:31pm
  1221.  
  1222. Alexandra May Hunter
  1223.  
  1224. here's the web site: http://globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com/events.html
  1225.  
  1226. 5:31pm
  1227.  
  1228. Sheryll Thomas
  1229.  
  1230. now to get her IP
  1231.  
  1232. 5:42pm
  1233.  
  1234. Sheryll Thomas
  1235.  
  1236. I am off now also to do some radar work on our trashers, ciao
  1237.  
  1238. July 3
  1239.  
  1240. 1:59am
  1241.  
  1242. Russ Tanner
  1243.  
  1244. The registrant of that domain name has been privatized so you can't find out who owns it without a warrant. The proxy email address to send an email to the owner is:
  1245.  
  1246. GLOBALMARCHAGAINSTCHEMTRAILSANDGEOENGINEERING.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
  1247.  
  1248. The IP address for the domain is: 50.62.109.1
  1249.  
  1250. Based on the traceroute, the website is hosted with GoDaddy in their Phoenix location:
  1251.  
  1252. TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 50.62.109.1 [p3nlhg678c1678.shr.prod.phx3.secureserver.net] Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name 1 1 0 0 8.9.232.73 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net 2 23 23 29 4.69.145.62 vlan60.csw1.dallas1.level3.net 3 24 24 24 4.69.151.126 ae-61-61.ebr1.dallas1.level3.net 4 24 24 24 4.69.133.29 ae-1-8.bar1.phoenix1.level3.net 5 27 27 27 4.53.104.2 the-go-dadd.bar1.phoenix1.level3.net 6 61 60 61 184.168.0.69 be38.trmc0215-01.ars.mgmt.phx3.gdg 7 60 60 60 184.168.0.69 be38.trmc0215-01.ars.mgmt.phx3.gdg 8 60 60 60 97.74.255.129 ip-97-74-255-129.ip.secureserver.net 9 60 60 60 50.62.109.1 p3nlhg678c1678.shr.prod.phx3.secureserver.net
  1253.  
  1254. secureserver.net = GoDaddy
  1255.  
  1256. The domain name servers are:
  1257.  
  1258. globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com. 3393 IN NS ns70.domaincontrol.com. globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com. 3393 IN NS ns69.domaincontrol.com.
  1259.  
  1260. Which are GoDaddy standard hosting DNS servers. So they probably purchased a "Website Tonight" hosting plan with GoDaddy.
  1261.  
  1262. The complete host name is:
  1263.  
  1264. p3nlhg678c1678.shr.prod.phx3.secureserver.net
  1265.  
  1266. which shows a shared production server in Phoenix (same type as I said above)
  1267.  
  1268. The domain was registered for 1 years on June 13th
  1269.  
  1270. 2:01am
  1271.  
  1272. Russ Tanner
  1273.  
  1274. On the contact us page they listed this Twitter account:
  1275.  
  1276. https://twitter.com/MarchAgainstSRM
  1277.  
  1278. Global MARCH Against (MarchAgainstSRM) on Twitter
  1279.  
  1280. twitter.com
  1281.  
  1282. The latest from Global MARCH Against (@MarchAgainstSRM). What Are You Doing To Save The World Today From SRM And SAG Geoengineering. Global
  1283.  
  1284.  
  1285.  
  1286. 2:01am
  1287.  
  1288. Russ Tanner
  1289.  
  1290. ...and this email address:
  1291.  
  1292. ProtestAgainstGeoengineering@gmail.com
  1293.  
  1294. Perhaps the best way to gain control of the event back is to create a new website and have all major activists promote the new one. Just a thought as a possible simple solution.
  1295.  
  1296. 2:05am
  1297.  
  1298. Russ Tanner
  1299.  
  1300. This is the related (linked-to) facebook page:
  1301.  
  1302. https://www.facebook.com/GlobalMarchAgainstChemtrailsAndGeoengineering
  1303.  
  1304. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering
  1305.  
  1306. Some words from our friends: "Greetings friends and welcome. We are more then happy at Chemtrail Research to promote this Worldwide Chemtrail Geoengineering Protest and help you all out in any way we can along the way. People keep asking us on our Facebook page what they can do to help, and we keep...
  1307.  
  1308. Page: 9,907 like this
  1309.  
  1310. 2:06am
  1311.  
  1312. Olga Raffa
  1313.  
  1314. Great Russ! Thank you so much, so we can surmise they say they are in Europe but the IP address says they are operating out of the us?
  1315.  
  1316. 2:09am
  1317.  
  1318. Russ Tanner
  1319.  
  1320. They also have this domain which forwards to above domain: http://gmacag.com/
  1321.  
  1322. This domain is also privatized.
  1323.  
  1324. Global March Against Chemtrails And Geoengineering.com
  1325.  
  1326. globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com
  1327.  
  1328. On August 25 2013 join us in a global peaceful public protest against all forms of SRM and SAG Geoengineering in every country around the world. Now is the time to take back our sky's.We are calling on people from all around the world to participate in their local Global MARCH Against Chemtrails And...
  1329.  
  1330.  
  1331.  
  1332. 2:10am
  1333.  
  1334. Russ Tanner
  1335.  
  1336. Well Olga, the owners could be located anywhere, but when you get a website with GoDaddy, you can specify whether it's in the U.S., U.K., or Asia. They specified U.S. when they got the server.
  1337.  
  1338. 2:16am
  1339.  
  1340. Olga Raffa
  1341.  
  1342. Next don't we need the IP address of these ladies or whoever is working with them on the website..their actual location? That would mean they would have to visit a website, yours for example and you could see their location from your backend info?
  1343.  
  1344. 2:17am
  1345.  
  1346. Russ Tanner
  1347.  
  1348. On their facebook page, they have pics, one of which contains a link to this website: http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf
  1349.  
  1350. http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/nasa-thefutureof-war.pdf
  1351.  
  1352. www.stopthecrime.net
  1353.  
  1354.  
  1355.  
  1356. 2:18am
  1357.  
  1358. Russ Tanner
  1359.  
  1360. Which is registered to this person:
  1361.  
  1362. Created on: 14-Feb-12 Expires on: 14-Feb-14 Last Updated on: 06-Feb-13
  1363.  
  1364. Registrant: Deborah Tavares PO BOX 1821 Sebastopol CA, California 95473 United States
  1365.  
  1366. Administrative Contact: Tavares, Deborah email@arccopy.com PO BOX 1821 Sebastopol CA, California 95473 United States +1.7078249850 Fax -- +1.7075423198
  1367.  
  1368. Technical Contact: Tavares, Deborah email@arccopy.com PO BOX 1821 Sebastopol CA, California 95473 United States +1.7078249850 Fax -- +1.7075423198
  1369.  
  1370. Domain servers in listed order: NS55.DOMAINCONTROL.COM NS56.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
  1371.  
  1372. 2:19am
  1373.  
  1374. Russ Tanner
  1375.  
  1376. Yes, you're right Olga. For me to know *their* actual location (not their server's location), they would have to visit a website that I control.
  1377.  
  1378. 2:23am
  1379.  
  1380. Olga Raffa
  1381.  
  1382. OK I've seen that, she is exposing a Govt. doc...I don't know much about this but Alix would check hers and find people located all over the place...kremlin, city of London and yes .. The Whitehouse... she took a screen shot of it from google maps and a satellite image of the whitehouse with a pin on the whitehouse lawn came up...so we need them to visit, perhaps your site?
  1383.  
  1384. 2:26am
  1385.  
  1386. Russ Tanner
  1387.  
  1388. They would have to visit my site, but I would have to know when they are visiting (time) so I could match that up with the log the my server generates. If we did that, then I could tell you where they are physically located - unless they are using a proxy server that hides this information.
  1389.  
  1390. 2:28am
  1391.  
  1392. Olga Raffa
  1393.  
  1394. We should formulate a set of questions and have a skype with her and her friend perhaps? Who is working with them on their website....? have the people working on the website visit your site while we are talking and you can check their address...see if the information they give matches up....proxy server could be a problem...hummm
  1395.  
  1396. 2:29am
  1397.  
  1398. Olga Raffa
  1399.  
  1400. I like your idea of another website as a solution...
  1401.  
  1402. to take back the event, let's see what Paul says.. thank you...
  1403.  
  1404. 2:33am
  1405.  
  1406. Russ Tanner
  1407.  
  1408. Sounds good. Just let me know how I can help.
  1409.  
  1410. 2:36am
  1411.  
  1412. Russ Tanner
  1413.  
  1414. Other connections: Video linked from the FB page has "about" section written in French: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xalhfy_chemtrails-et-climat-va-falloir-se_news#.UdPwIpywWrt
  1415.  
  1416. CHEMTRAILS et CLIMAT - VA FALLOIR SE REVEILLER !
  1417.  
  1418. www.dailymotion.com
  1419.  
  1420. Notre ciel est devenu blanc....il n'est plus bleuQuand on parle de réchauffement climatique, de quoi parle t on ??QUE SE PASSE IL AVEC NOTRE CIEL ????POSEZ DES QUESTIONS ! EXIGEZ DES REPONSES !!dijon 24 09 2009- 11h30 - 17h30
  1421.  
  1422.  
  1423.  
  1424. 2:36am
  1425.  
  1426. Russ Tanner
  1427.  
  1428. ...and this FB account also has much French on it - and this account is the main poster on the FB page: https://www.facebook.com/edouard.roquelle?hc_location=stream
  1429.  
  1430. Cosmic Dancer
  1431.  
  1432. From Allos
  1433.  
  1434. 2:41am
  1435.  
  1436. Olga Raffa
  1437.  
  1438. Thanks Russ.x
  1439.  
  1440. 3:25am
  1441.  
  1442. Olga Raffa
  1443.  
  1444. Adrianna DX has posted this 4 times on my wall and I can not access my timeline past these 4 posts...we are hitting home... who was speaking and at what location/event, this needs to be transcribed and documented...uploaded and used. http://youtu.be/wINGFGwdPQo
  1445.  
  1446. The U.S Military Will Use Weather as a Weapon on AMERICAN Citizens
  1447.  
  1448. www.youtube.com
  1449.  
  1450. The U.S Military Will Use Weather as a Weapon on AMERICAN Citizens Subscribe to SandyHookIs911 More info & links in description box at http://www.youtube.com...
  1451.  
  1452.  
  1453.  
  1454. 4:08am
  1455.  
  1456. Olga Raffa
  1457.  
  1458. Just to add in the conversation.... I am limited in time and resources... but would like to add, if this is controlled which it very much looks like to me, I suggest we work with who we have had a good honest communication and history with at this point.
  1459.  
  1460. As per the video about protests that I posted initially, real political action needs to be systematically carried out by these groups for any real effective movement forward ...other than grassroots awareness raising which is crucial and good... we could help and support them with this...
  1461.  
  1462. Paul is waiting to work on an International Public Governance & Directive to ban geo/climate engineering weather modification with us.
  1463.  
  1464. Wayne Hall in Cyprus is working with Skyguards who met at the EU Parliament this year... We handed in the directive and UAPA to the Oxford Programme and I like his suggestion idea of a reply to them and apply them to demands to political leaders, if nothing else than to expose and hold representatives responsible for doing NOTHING to stop this.
  1465.  
  1466. Here is the conversation on the CPUK page and as Pippa King is helping me with an update, I would suggest we all start collaborating political action as box that needs to be ticked along with other essential grassroots activities.
  1467.  
  1468. In the US the UAPA is apparently in Congress, we will use it here. Could it be ascertained as to what is happening with it in Congress as a tool for the public to be aware of and use in conjunction with awareness raising as a grounded solution and action for the public to stand behind?
  1469.  
  1470. As Dane and Michael Murphy are so prominent, connection with them and advise by them perhaps as to political moves for a unified movement.
  1471.  
  1472. I have never been an activist and have little experience, to be honest am out of my depth alone. David Lim here in the UK is working on an international website.. I think collaboration with him would be ideal and his talk on the 5th is an opportunity I will attempt to use to meet with him. He said he is working with Alix but as she is out of action with me, I will now attempt to consolidate efforts in the UK with time and resources in consideration. Thank you.
  1473.  
  1474. This is the conversation on the CPUK wall...
  1475.  
  1476. Wayne Hall:
  1477.  
  1478. The “Oxford Principles” are a proposed set of initial guiding principles for the governance of geoengineering. http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/oxford-principles/principles/
  1479.  
  1480. The Oxford Geoengineering Programme http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/
  1481.  
  1482. Our organizations should issue a reply to the “Oxford Principles”. Let us try to formulate it.
  1483.  
  1484. We could say:
  1485.  
  1486. 1) It should be a penal offense, punishable by imprisonment, to claim or insinuate that he/she/it knows that aerial spraying programmes for geoengineering and/or other undisclosed purposes are NOT already in global implementation.
  1487.  
  1488. 2) No person or organization in any way associated with assertions or insinuations that global warming/climate change is not anthropogenic in character should be legally entitled to advocate geoengineering methods as a means of countering anthropogenic climate change/global warming.
  1489.  
  1490. 3) Enforcement of the ENMOD Convention is a prerequisite for any attempt to secure “social acceptance” for any form of geoengineering.
  1491.  
  1492. 4) Enforcement of the AARHUS Convention is a prerequisite for any attempt to secure “social acceptance” for any form of geoengineering.
  1493.  
  1494. 5) No person or organization involved in any way with production of the problems for which geoengineering is being canvassed as a “solution” shall be entitled to be employed in implementation of any geoeengineering programme.
  1495.  
  1496. 6) Penal sanctions should be attached to violations of the provisions of the ENMOD and Aarhus conventions.
  1497.  
  1498. Chemtrails Project UK : this is me replying
  1499.  
  1500. "We personally handed them the Directive & UAPA a few weeks ago, these points are very good, thank you Wayne. We will look into and work with this. Please keep us informed on any developments of your ideas." Wayne Hall : "Josefina Fraile has just indicated that she wants Skyguards to adopt these principles. She is making some changes to the text so when she sends them to me and we reach agreement, I will send them on to you. Being able to issue a joint statement would be very good." Chemtrails Project UK : "Yes very good indeed, we are ready to update the directive and have set in place a list of MP's to be given an official document to move to lobby Parliament... Global marches and unification is under way... a solid international document to be adapted to each country would be ideal at this point..really appreciate your support and help Wayne. Olga.
  1501.  
  1502. Oxford Geoengineering Programme // Oxford Principles of Geoengineering
  1503.  
  1504. www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk
  1505.  
  1506. The “Oxford Principles” are a proposed set of initial guiding principles for the governance of geoengineering.
  1507.  
  1508.  
  1509.  
  1510. 4:10am
  1511.  
  1512. Olga Raffa
  1513.  
  1514. UK data base...still in development!
  1515.  
  1516. http://www.uk-skywatch.co.uk/The%20Directive%20Data%20Base.html
  1517.  
  1518. The Directive Database - Send a copy to your local MP
  1519.  
  1520. www.uk-skywatch.co.uk
  1521.  
  1522.  
  1523.  
  1524. July 3
  1525.  
  1526. 8:08am
  1527.  
  1528. Alexandra May Hunter
  1529.  
  1530. A Couple of comments--with regard to the picture of this woman's page that is linked back to stop the crime. Yes, that is Deborah Tavares' group and I can vouch for her. This is not relevant here as to the real identity of this woman in question. Second off, there are some legal strategies which have been thoroughly researched regarding the U.S. and suffice it just to say that the legislative approach at this time due to the complete collusion of congress in the cover up is not viable now but may be at some point. There may be some other means to approach this legally here in the U.S., however I will not discuss them in this forum as it's pretty much a given we are being monitored. I have had a discussion with Alix re: the U.K. Directive and am aware of all that. Olga I am happy to Skype with you at some point if you'd like to share thoughts with me.
  1531.  
  1532. 8:17am
  1533.  
  1534. Olga Raffa
  1535.  
  1536. Yes thank you Alexandra, I would very much appreciate that, tonight or tomorrow would be good, I will pm you later as I have to go now. Thanks again.
  1537.  
  1538. July 4
  1539.  
  1540. 12:22am
  1541.  
  1542. Paul Mac
  1543.  
  1544. OK I need a concencus so I can get back to this woman, I think its obvious that we have to proceed no matter what, however I feel we do so with caution. I'm thinking of asking if some of the global leaders can take on an admin role within the page to assist them, this way we can see the whole back room of what is going on. I'll send Mohini an email and try to get a skype call set up over the weekend as well, Sheryll and I can talk with her together, smooth some ruffled feathers and see what we can come with.....any other thoughts and ideas would be appreciated , cheers.
  1545.  
  1546. 12:34am
  1547.  
  1548. Olga Raffa
  1549.  
  1550. Would asking one person to be on admin on the website be more to the point, although on the fb page would be a good start... I agree. Perhaps add questions here that you may be asking and people can add extra if they feel necessary. Thanks Paul for doing this.
  1551.  
  1552. July 4
  1553.  
  1554. 5:24am
  1555.  
  1556. Paul Mac
  1557.  
  1558. Paul Mac Hi Mohini, I'd like to have a chat with you on skype with one of our other female admins this weekend if possible. Our admin group has a few questions we would like to ask of you before we throw our full weight behind the Aug 25th event, please let me know when you will next be on skype and we will work to join with you...talk soon Paul
  1559.  
  1560. 21:37 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Hi Paul - ok - I will be quite bussy this weekend on a festivall starting early mornings and coming back late and there is also great time difference - suitable time would be 24:00 pm on Saturday - that will mean 7:30 am Sunday your time - is this right ??? Do you have other sugesstion - during week i will be more easy availlabe - but maybe you will be bussy then... please let me know.
  1561.  
  1562. 22:24 Paul Mac Thats fine Mohini, I have any early radio show that morning, will be up anyway, please confirm your time zone and I'll lock it in, thanks.
  1563.  
  1564. 5:32am
  1565.  
  1566. Paul Mac
  1567.  
  1568. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering ok - Middleeuropean time zone - right now its 14:26 pm
  1569.  
  1570. 22:28 Paul Mac 10:26pm here right now, so 8 hours between us, thanks
  1571.  
  1572. 22:28 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Thanks - would be good if you give me reminder on the time the day before - i am sooo bussy this weekend - so reminder will be good - Ok - chat with you soooon
  1573.  
  1574. 22:28 Paul Mac 22.26
  1575.  
  1576. 22:29 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering ok - got it
  1577.  
  1578. 22:29 Paul Mac Yep will do
  1579.  
  1580. 22:30 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering 8 hours - ok !!! - means 8:00 am your time - 24:00pm my time - OK - we will do that !!! Cheers !!!
  1581.  
  1582. 22:31 Paul Mac will email you a few hours before to make sure .
  1583.  
  1584. July 4
  1585.  
  1586. 9:21am
  1587.  
  1588. Alexandra May Hunter
  1589.  
  1590. Paul- FYI-I am 57 years old. I am a very seasoned and savvy business/legal professional so when I weigh in I'm coming from my perspective, of course and in all situations I try to take into account other people's perspective. So, with that said why are you having to remind her about the time of the skype call? Do we have anybody in Germany? Somebody that can meet her in person? A couple of questions I would pose are: 1. who did their videos? 2. ask them about the "Hawaii" events posted on their page. The links go nowhere and mu contacts in Hawaii go nowhere. My contacts in Hawaii tell m e nothing is planned there. 3. her FB page does not have the typical posts one would have when concerned about the chemtrails situation. ask her how she got into this and why she's concerned about it. if she begins to talk about folks there in Germany that got her on to this, ask her about them...
  1591.  
  1592. 11:58am
  1593.  
  1594. Olga Raffa
  1595.  
  1596. Can you record the call? Pippa sent us a link to download softwear if you don't have it in one of the emails from our weekly skypes with Alix...
  1597.  
  1598. 12:00pm
  1599.  
  1600. Alexandra May Hunter
  1601.  
  1602. do not record ANYTHING unless you 1st ask permission
  1603.  
  1604. 12:01pm
  1605.  
  1606. Olga Raffa
  1607.  
  1608. good point!
  1609.  
  1610. July 4
  1611.  
  1612. 3:20pm
  1613.  
  1614. Olga Raffa
  1615.  
  1616. http://youtu.be/wINGFGwdPQo
  1617.  
  1618. The U.S Military Will Use Weather as a Weapon on AMERICAN Citizens
  1619.  
  1620. www.youtube.com
  1621.  
  1622. The U.S Military Will Use Weather as a Weapon on AMERICAN Citizens Subscribe to SandyHookIs911 More info & links in description box at http://www.youtube.com...
  1623.  
  1624.  
  1625.  
  1626. 6:19pm
  1627.  
  1628. Olga Raffa
  1629.  
  1630. sorry meant to send this link to Alexandra, but it is a good one!
  1631.  
  1632. July 6
  1633.  
  1634. 3:36pm
  1635.  
  1636. Paul Mac
  1637.  
  1638. Ok, Sheryll and I have had a chat with Mohini this morning and she seems like a legit person. Mohini will be talking with her one other admin about our conversation and has agreed in principal to add Sheryll and I as admins to both the fb page and the online page http://globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com/events.html We will be catching up again once she has had that conversation. We saw her on webcam and she checks out as a german lady who has lived in India, she is also a Hare Krishna, hence her reluctance at being a public face to all of this, essentially she is very much like us and is someone who looked around and saw the need but is reluctant at being a target.
  1639.  
  1640. Global March Against Chemtrails And Geoengineering.com
  1641.  
  1642. globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com
  1643.  
  1644. Global March Against Chemtrail And Geoengineering August 25 2013 Event Listings. Register your global march against Chemtrails and Geoengineering protest event with us to day and we will add it to our events listings both here and on our Facebook page. Please note that in some city's and communities...
  1645.  
  1646.  
  1647.  
  1648. 3:52pm
  1649.  
  1650. Alexandra May Hunter
  1651.  
  1652. who did their videos?
  1653.  
  1654. 3:52pm
  1655.  
  1656. Paul Mac
  1657.  
  1658. I didnt ask that question Lexie, I will check it out tho
  1659.  
  1660. 3:53pm
  1661.  
  1662. Alexandra May Hunter
  1663.  
  1664. July 6
  1665.  
  1666. 9:33pm
  1667.  
  1668. Olga Raffa
  1669.  
  1670. Great thanks Paul, & Sheryll for doing that.
  1671.  
  1672. 11:05pm
  1673.  
  1674. Sheryll Thomas
  1675.  
  1676. We broke the "ice" with her and placed some trust so we can talk further
  1677.  
  1678. 1:02am
  1679.  
  1680. Mona Norman
  1681.  
  1682. Thank you XXX
  1683.  
  1684. July 7
  1685.  
  1686. 4:58pm
  1687.  
  1688. Matt Mc
  1689.  
  1690. Well done Paul and Sheryl. Some good points Olga, added to my notes. I have been following along with this conversation and will continue to. From the communication I have had, Mohini seems genuine, but I will take a backseat and let Paul and you guys further tease this out. I am also skeptical about who created the website etc. but I think it is best we fully support the event while running our actions as locally as possible. That's great you guys have a seat at the table, so to speak
  1691.  
  1692. July 7
  1693.  
  1694. 10:03pm
  1695.  
  1696. Olga Raffa
  1697.  
  1698. Thanks for your comments Matt. I think awareness is key and getting the info out there is crucial, however this is accomplished is a magnificent effort, much love to you all for all you do.. I am honoured to be amongst you fine people...
  1699.  
  1700. Love and blessing.XOX
  1701.  
  1702. s
  1703.  
  1704. July 11
  1705.  
  1706. 1:42pm
  1707.  
  1708. Paul Mac
  1709.  
  1710. Paul Mac Hi Mohini, just touching base to see if you have talked with your other admin regarding taking some of the global leaders on board as admins to your page, there are many great ppl who have a wealth of help to offer, please advise, thanks Today
  1711.  
  1712. 03:26 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Hi Paul - HAPPY to hear from you. How is going ? As for admin requests - The way we have set up the pages right now works quite smoothly. Right now any one can submit content as well as promote the event on their own pages and help us in this way. Promotion is at the moment much more crucial and needed than adding more admins to our own page that runs with 2 admins already ok. We would be very much happy if the global leaders could help out with promoting the world wide event in the forums, radio shows aso that they have already set up and take part in. That would be much more help right now. Thats the actual hard work right now !!! Not the setting up a fb page but the promotion and connection of people is the REAL work. As we easily get blocked on fb all the time we need very much help in getting the news out there. As for promotion - We have a web site that is currently being build just for the purpose of better supporting the global march against chemtrails and geoengineering and we will have an entire page devoted to different event flyer people can down load and copy or order online. If you have some creative as well as practical ideas on this and can contribute to this this would be great. Allso a page for Media - like Radio / Tv broadcast is in the build that everyone can contribute to this. - Global Map is almost ready to come up as well. As you were talking of the global leaders i had already requested Matt for a list of the people and webpages that should be linked and credited. If you could help with that - that would be GREAT !!! Thanks for your suport.... Today
  1713.  
  1714. 06:41 Paul Mac Mohini, the leaders are ramping up their promotion but also feel that we need to have that admin role as well so we can see what is going on in the background, there are many other connections we still need to make and I am sure you are having people contact you that we have not yet met but we need too...please consider our request again as we believe it has merit for growing the movement.........Can you also please advise who your web developer is regarding the website and video clips, is this the other admin?
  1715.  
  1716. 1:44pm
  1717.  
  1718. David Lim
  1719.  
  1720. I have the video and I'm on it!
  1721.  
  1722. 1:46pm
  1723.  
  1724. Paul Mac
  1725.  
  1726. thanks David, much appreciated , we need to get it out as part of the Global promotion for the up coming protest Aug 25th, show the ppl that the world is combining together to raise their voices
  1727.  
  1728. 1:46pm
  1729.  
  1730. Mona Norman
  1731.  
  1732. I would be very interested in seeing the Video. David.
  1733.  
  1734. 1:47pm
  1735.  
  1736. David Lim
  1737.  
  1738. As soon as I have finished editing - its out there, dont worry.
  1739.  
  1740. 1:47pm
  1741.  
  1742. Mona Norman
  1743.  
  1744. Sending Love from London. Thanks >>
  1745.  
  1746. 1:47pm
  1747.  
  1748. Sheryll Thomas
  1749.  
  1750. Hi david, sorry I missed you on skype last night
  1751.  
  1752. 1:47pm
  1753.  
  1754. David Lim
  1755.  
  1756. Its an honour.
  1757.  
  1758. No worries Paul. Maybe we can speak later. I've spent all day in Glastonbury promoting and flyering for my next talk - I'm whacked!
  1759.  
  1760. Thinking of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzs now
  1761.  
  1762. 1:49pm
  1763.  
  1764. Paul Mac
  1765.  
  1766. exactly what I will be asking the whole of Australia to start getting out and doing
  1767.  
  1768. hit the hay mate, sleep well
  1769.  
  1770. 1:50pm
  1771.  
  1772. David Lim
  1773.  
  1774. Things are moving so fast at the moment with everything. You can literally feel change. Know what I mean?
  1775.  
  1776. 1:51pm
  1777.  
  1778. Paul Mac
  1779.  
  1780. Yep I do , the tipping point is closing in, we need to keep the momentum up, keep pushing until it breaks open
  1781.  
  1782. 1:52pm
  1783.  
  1784. David Lim
  1785.  
  1786. I agree. Right I must hit the hay. Good night all. Love from Dorset, UK xx
  1787.  
  1788. 1:52pm
  1789.  
  1790. Paul Mac
  1791.  
  1792. Peace to you brother
  1793.  
  1794. 2:24pm
  1795.  
  1796. Paul Mac
  1797.  
  1798. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Hi Paul - GOOD MORNING !!! Who wants to be admin ? There are many prominent leaders - who shall we choose amongst them ? - And if all want to be admin that will be tooo many - thats not good - And whom shall we allow and whom not ? Actually it is working very much fine the way we have set up it right now. We are a very good team right now. If we will allow one of the leaders to admin then others also want to become admin - that will be tooooo much. We can give you all our contacts - thats no prblem. We are just seting up a base to walk for all. Actually we are not organizing anything - we are just the platform - like a meeting point - Like you are the meeting point for Australia - thus we make meeting point for all - but we would never want to become admin in your pages because thats not necessary. So why you want to become admin in our page. we just walk straight. Here people just get to know where to meet - thats it. We are always open for sugestions but for now we will not add admins because its not necessary also as pages are runing already. We would need help and support in many other areas for sure as i already was talking about but as for the pages they run quite fine right now. If more and more Media will come in then we will need help for sure but as for now we are quite fine. But i suggest that we have skype meetings with all the leaders on a regular basis - also with our 2. admin - thats what we suggest for now. The Webside is created by us. The banners are created by me and many more varieties to come from this. Already quite a compilation is there and will be uploaded next days. But feel free to design your own flyers and banners as well. We will also designing other style of motive because taste is different of different people. All in all - please feel free to be creative yourself as you like and promote Australia the way you like. The video clips are created by other people - you can always see in you tube who did this. The people just do it and send to us - we dont know them. If people have creativ skills thats very much welcome. If you want to make nice video - thats very much welcome. People from Germany , Egypt , Usa mad already nice videos. If you have good video person you could make very much good video for promotion of global event - some people are really good in this - that would be SUPERB !!! Happy to hear from you soon -
  1799.  
  1800. 2:24pm
  1801.  
  1802. Paul Mac
  1803.  
  1804. I need to add a few of you in on this conversation, my patience has worn thin here with this attitude
  1805.  
  1806. Please put your hand up if you would like to join in and steer this along
  1807.  
  1808. 3:49pm
  1809.  
  1810. Alexandra May Hunter
  1811.  
  1812. I think you're being played. She did not create that video. That's my 2 cents--Lexie
  1813.  
  1814. 3:49pm
  1815.  
  1816. Sheryll Thomas
  1817.  
  1818. I am of the opinion that whomever just wrote that wasnt the "Mohini" that both Paul and I spoke with....
  1819.  
  1820. 3:53pm
  1821.  
  1822. Alexandra May Hunter
  1823.  
  1824. they'd like to skype with all of us? I think not folks...anyway not myself no way
  1825.  
  1826. 5:25pm
  1827.  
  1828. Sheryll Thomas
  1829.  
  1830. 25.08. 2013 GLOBAL MARCH AGAINST CHEMTRAILS AND GEOENGINEERING
  1831.  
  1832.  
  1833.  
  1834. Veröffentlicht am 02.07.2013 credits to: soopertool Original video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJG9BZsyums JOIN THE GLOBAL PROTEST: http://globalmarchagainstchemtrailsandgeoengineering.com/ EDUCATE YOURSELF! JOIN! TAKE ACTION! DEMAND ANSWERS! BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! http://www.whatintheworldaretheyspray... http://www.whyintheworldaretheysprayi... http://www.whointheworldisspraying.com/ http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ http://www.skyderalert.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsins... http://chemtrailcentral.com/ https://www.google.com/search?q=alex+... and many many more... (feel free to put your additional links in the comments section below!) start your own research! watch the sky above you! document what you see! write your local environment organizations and document their reaction! tell your family, friends and neighbors about it. make them see what is so obvious! encourange people to speak out what they have been thinking about the changes in weather already! get test results, if you can! blow the whistle, loud and clear, if you are involved! and join any form of protest against geoengineering! we have to bring this insanity to an end!! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Leaving... Kategorie Soziales Engagement Lizenz Standard-YouTube-Lizenz
  1835.  
  1836. Length: 2:00
  1837.  
  1838. 5:29pm
  1839.  
  1840. Sheryll Thomas
  1841.  
  1842. made by soopertool....http://www.youtube.com/user/soopertool?feature=watch
  1843.  
  1844. leaving the herd
  1845.  
  1846. www.youtube.com
  1847.  
  1848.  
  1849.  
  1850. July 14
  1851.  
  1852. 2:53am
  1853.  
  1854. Olga Raffa
  1855.  
  1856. By not wanting anyone else in the forefront of a global movement to be in admin I think this is making themselves suspect and is looking very controlled. We could mention that we may let all groups be aware of their stance and let people make their own conclusions. Providing links to being aware of getting usurped by newcomers etc, you know how they operate, people just need to be aware sooner than later don't you think?
  1857.  
  1858. We have 12 people on admin on at Chemtrails Project UK and only a few people post, what is their problem.
  1859.  
  1860. 2:55am
  1861.  
  1862. Olga Raffa
  1863.  
  1864. You are now one of them Paul.
  1865.  
  1866. 2:55am
  1867.  
  1868. Paul Mac
  1869.  
  1870. Yeah I think thats fair enough Olga I'll put it to them and see what happens
  1871.  
  1872. why thank you, more than happy to post for you
  1873.  
  1874. 2:57am
  1875.  
  1876. Olga Raffa
  1877.  
  1878. You will be more than welcome
  1879.  
  1880. 2:57am
  1881.  
  1882. Paul Mac
  1883.  
  1884. Dont know a few of them Olga, will add them to my friends list but its a problem we have with our admins as well they love the badge but are not active at all, we will be sweeping a few out soon just to get some fresh active team players in
  1885.  
  1886. found page 6 btw it just reappeared, will re work the doc now for Australia & NZ
  1887.  
  1888. 3:02am
  1889.  
  1890. Olga Raffa
  1891.  
  1892. I have no problem with them being there, literally 4 of us post if that, mostly me, but that keeps it streamlined in the fashion Alix and myself began it with, it just proves that we are open and transparent. It is very time consuming to do a good job I must say! Help is appreciated.
  1893.  
  1894. 3:03am
  1895.  
  1896. Paul Mac
  1897.  
  1898. no worries...have you heard from Alix?
  1899.  
  1900. 3:05am
  1901.  
  1902. Olga Raffa
  1903.  
  1904. Paul, Pippa is coming down to visit me this week and we are going to rework it! Then David Lim has agreed to work with us on it in the beginning of Aug, just so you know No word from Alix
  1905.  
  1906. 3:07am
  1907.  
  1908. Paul Mac
  1909.  
  1910. Oh ok cool, have been waiting a while, I'll make a start on aussifying it now and then edit in the adjustments you guys make, was talking with Wayne Hall earlier, he has just put this out and authorised its use
  1911.  
  1912. 3:08am
  1913.  
  1914. Paul Mac
  1915.  
  1916. A STATEMENT ON GEOENGINEERING Over much of the planet, for years, in fact decades now, aircraft have been seen flying at high altitudes, engaged in what appears to be chemical spraying. Countless concerned citizens, including parliamentarians and a few scientists and military people, have tried to raise the question of “what is going on”. They are given in response, officially and unofficially, descriptions of aircraft condensation trails and their properties. It soon becomes evident from dealings with authorities – everywhere – that citizens today are required to believe that what they are seeing in the sky is the traditional unintentional – and presumably not desired – pollution that has always been associated with jet air travel. It is not some kind of deliberate spraying. If they wish to believe that they are “being sprayed”, the burden of proof rests on themselves, (because they are the ones who are “making the allegation”). All this changes when a new factor is introduced: a public relations campaign aimed at securing public acceptance for geoengineering” (and in particular what is called “solar radiation management”). For example: 1. http://harvardmagazine.com/2013/07/buffering-the-sun#article-images 2. http://www.geoengineering.ox.ac.uk/oxford-principles/principles/ (examples could be multiplied at will) Under the precautionary principle, in such public relations campaigns, all burdens of proof rest on the people who are canvassing for support for such practices. The burden of proof therefore rests on the David Keiths, the Ken Caldeiras, the Oxford Geoengineeering Programmes,etc. etc. etc. to prove that they are not lying or misinformed when they say that “research on geoengineering is at a very early stage”, asserting or implying that geoengineering, and specifically programmes of solar radiation management - possibly also serving other undeclared purposes - are not - as they assert - a research programme at a very early stage but are in fact already a programme of historically unprecedented enormity, in full-scale global application. Because it is the advocates of geoengineering, not uninvolved citizens, who are initiating the discussion, citizens are entitled to assert the following: 1) Any person or organization seeking to involve the public in a debate on the advantages and disadvantages of geoengineering techniques such as solar radiation management, or the global dispersal of light-reflecting particles in the atmosphere to reduce the level of sunlight reaching the earth, should be obliged to admit that such activity is already in global implementation, or prove that it is not. Wilfully false statements in this connection should be a penal offence, punishable by imprisonment. 2) No person or organization in any way associated with assertions or insinuations that global warming/climate change is not anthropogenic in character should be legally entitled to advocate geoengineering methods as a means of countering anthropogenic climate change/global warming.
  1917.  
  1918. 3) Enforcement of the ENMOD Convention is a prerequisite for any attempt to secure “social acceptance” for any form of geoengineering.
  1919.  
  1920. 4) Enforcement of the AARHUS Convention is a prerequisite for any attempt to secure “social acceptance” for any form of geoengineering.
  1921.  
  1922. 5) No person or organization involved in any way with production of the problems for which geoengineering is being canvassed as a “solution” shall be entitled to be employed in implementation of any geoengineering programme.
  1923.  
  1924. 6) Penal sanctions should be attached to violations of the provisions of the ENMOD and AARHUS conventions. 7) An international court for environmental crimes must be established,.with the power to impose sanctions on offences against points 1) and 2) above, in addition to other already acknowledged environmental crimes. The citizens’ organization Skyguards staged a conference in the European Parliament on 8th and 9th April 2013 on the issue of geoengineering and clandestine aerial spraying, and have presented a formal demand for an independent investigation of facts reported in the conference.
  1925.  
  1926. Photograph by Eliza GrinnellDavid KeithGraphic by Funnel, INC. - Harvard scientist David Keith foste
  1927.  
  1928. harvardmagazine.com
  1929.  
  1930. David Keith and the question of climate engineering
  1931.  
  1932.  
  1933.  
  1934. 3:11am
  1935.  
  1936. Olga Raffa
  1937.  
  1938. Yes, this should be incorporated, I like it very much, will share when it's looking good, so we can get consensus, suggestions welcome.
  1939.  
  1940. 3:12am
  1941.  
  1942. Paul Mac
  1943.  
  1944. lol ok. :0
  1945.  
  1946. 4:05am
  1947.  
  1948. Olga Raffa
  1949.  
  1950. Ditch the iphones when on chug a boom convoy http://youtu.be/oUjh9gSCBFc Can't be digitally tracked
  1951.  
  1952. 4:12am
  1953.  
  1954. Olga Raffa
  1955.  
  1956. They probably are tracking all bandwiths right now but CB must be low on the priority list and not being digital quite difficult to capture and store? Sorry off subject
  1957.  
  1958. July 15
  1959.  
  1960. 12:29am
  1961.  
  1962. Olga Raffa
  1963.  
  1964. I'll do a skype with you with the 2 ladies if you are still going to do that.
  1965.  
  1966. 12:31am
  1967.  
  1968. Paul Mac
  1969.  
  1970. Yeah will still push for that, we are both sick as with flu just b=now though, may take a day or two before we sound human again lol
  1971.  
  1972. 12:36am
  1973.  
  1974. Olga Raffa
  1975.  
  1976. OK Paul, sending rest up, bust through that flu & keep laughing
  1977.  
  1978. 12:38am
  1979.  
  1980. Mona Norman
  1981.  
  1982. Take it easy Paul and Sheryll .Sending Love from London.
  1983.  
  1984. 12:38am
  1985.  
  1986. Kelly Daugherty
  1987.  
  1988. feel better, Paul
  1989.  
  1990. 12:47am
  1991.  
  1992. Paul Mac
  1993.  
  1994. thank you ladies much appreciated
  1995.  
  1996. 12:49am
  1997.  
  1998. Sheryll Thomas
  1999.  
  2000. Thanks Mona, xx
  2001.  
  2002. Homemade vegie soup cooking now, will make us feel bette
  2003.  
  2004. better*
  2005.  
  2006. July 22
  2007.  
  2008. 11:57pm
  2009.  
  2010. Olga Raffa
  2011.  
  2012. http://youtu.be/vosKV4O8Aq8 @ 46 minutes, interesting how they just "love to get us on the streets protesting. " We are all aware of this and will not stop us gathering with our concerns, but the Global March ladies are so very suspect, let us use their work to be connected to the groups who do care and make sure their ACTIONS are productive after coming off the street.
  2013.  
  2014. And again, their banners say March and the website says Protest... funny that.
  2015.  
  2016. Financial Terrorism Exposed!! - Thomas Sheridan (Psychopaths in Public Life )
  2017.  
  2018. www.youtube.com
  2019.  
  2020. With the permission of Ian R Crane & Thomas Sheridan . I upload this knowledge. :) If you are listening to this, you are the resistance. Above all stay alive...
  2021.  
  2022.  
  2023.  
  2024. 11:59pm
  2025.  
  2026. Sheryll Thomas
  2027.  
  2028. Olga, we have a friend that is an admin in Global Skywatch that swear they walk on water, so helpful people etc etc
  2029.  
  2030. I am still am suss
  2031.  
  2032. 12:04am
  2033.  
  2034. Olga Raffa
  2035.  
  2036. Well exactly, we can use it to be connected to all the global groups and ensure effective actions are put in place before they get us on the streets for them to call us terrorists and riot kettle us. Let's see if they will post this video on their wall
  2037.  
  2038. 12:17am
  2039.  
  2040. Olga Raffa
  2041.  
  2042. Pippa and I had a productive time and visited David lim in Glastonbury for his talk.. we are reworking the Directive and picking it apart to update. This is the type of actions that needs to be done and spread througout the groups... beside their very misleading posts ineffective behaviour!!...I'm glad Melbourne has a section devoted especially for this art work, but Bansky has awakened many and it is effective but it is illegal if it is not on your own property. we need to connects with these groups quickly before thye believe GMACG, makes them believe they are doing something effective without the political/ legal work that needs to bve relentleesly persued if we are to pit a stop to this...
  2043.  
  2044. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=140466956161764&set=a.121884364686690.1073741831.120482964826830&type=1&theaterIt's perfectly legal as long as you are spray painting your own house. If you are spray painting someone else's property (including "public" property like bridges and tunnels) you are committing a crime called vandalism. !!
  2045.  
  2046. BANNERS FLYERS AND AVATARS FOR YOUR WALL
  2047.  
  2048. 25.08.2013 - GLOBAL MARCH AGAINST CHEMTRAILS AND GEOENGINEERING If you want to ...See More
  2049.  
  2050. Down Load Your Personal Event Banners Here.
  2051.  
  2052. By: Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering
  2053.  
  2054. 12:22am
  2055.  
  2056. Olga Raffa
  2057.  
  2058. Pippa and I had a productive time and visited David lim in Glastonbury for his talk.. we are reworking the Directive and picking it apart to update. Legal action needs to be promoted and it is good to hear you have someone on admin! to make sure misleading posts are kept in check! ...
  2059.  
  2060. I'm glad Melbourne has a section devoted especially for this art work, but Bansky has awakened many and it is effective but it is illegal if it is not on your own property. We need to connect with these groups to make sure they are doing something effective political/ legal work that needs to be relentlessly perused if we are to pit a stop to this...
  2061.  
  2062. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=140466956161764&set=a.121884364686690.1073741831.120482964826830&type=1&theaterIt's perfectly legal as long as you are spray painting your own house. If you are spray painting someone else's property (including "public" property like bridges and tunnels) you are committing a crime called vandalism. !!
  2063.  
  2064. BANNERS FLYERS AND AVATARS FOR YOUR WALL
  2065.  
  2066. 25.08.2013 - GLOBAL MARCH AGAINST CHEMTRAILS AND GEOENGINEERING If you want to ...See More
  2067.  
  2068. Down Load Your Personal Event Banners Here.
  2069.  
  2070. By: Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering
  2071.  
  2072. 12:25am
  2073.  
  2074. Olga Raffa
  2075.  
  2076. Is there still no admin on the website?
  2077.  
  2078. 12:46am
  2079.  
  2080. Olga Raffa
  2081.  
  2082. Can the admin make sure this comment is not hidden, it is a misleading poster which can make protesters doing this into criminals!
  2083.  
  2084. "It's perfectly legal as long as you are spray painting your own house. If you are spray painting someone else's property (including "public" property like bridges and tunnels) you are committing a crime called vandalism. !!"
  2085.  
  2086. 12:49am
  2087.  
  2088. Olga Raffa
  2089.  
  2090. Do the admins helping these ladies get what we are saying?
  2091.  
  2092. 12:54am
  2093.  
  2094. Paul Mac
  2095.  
  2096. What is the convo here Olga are you talking with them>?
  2097.  
  2098. 1:01am
  2099.  
  2100. Olga Raffa
  2101.  
  2102. I just posted the talk by Ian Crane, it reminded me what the global march people are doing ....rallying people to march but saying it is a protest oinn the web page. ....and making misleading posts saying graffiti is LEGAL! Read it is back to front very clever wording... people caught doing this can be prosecuted.
  2103.  
  2104. not had a conversation with them yet, waiting to skype with you, but they will appear innocent enough... Paul, would'nt you say we need to keep in contact with leaders / members of these groups and make sure they are not steered into ineffective actions and updated when effective actions are put into place for collective actions globally?
  2105.  
  2106. 1:07am
  2107.  
  2108. Paul Mac
  2109.  
  2110. Am keeping in touch...such as it is with them, have given up on asking for anything...regardless this is all going ahead, people will do what they want to do re graffiti and bill posting Olga, its on the individuals head...at the end of the day we need to raise awareness and the more that's out there the better it is, we have run out of time for some PC niceties ....this thing will blow through and I doubt there will be any follow up action by the Global peeps, it will be up to us again to continue leading the way forward....that is when I plan to have another chat with them....this will be our third protest and my experience to date tells me that there is an ebb in the backwash of action and we will really see what they are made of at that stage
  2111.  
  2112. 1:11am
  2113.  
  2114. Olga Raffa
  2115.  
  2116. indeed Paul, I agree 100% Thanks for keeping in touch with them, this is key and we can help back them by our politica/legal actions. Thank you do much Sherryll & Paul! XOX
  2117.  
  2118. 1:12am
  2119.  
  2120. Paul Mac
  2121.  
  2122. No worries hun, you doing ok?
  2123.  
  2124. 1:12am
  2125.  
  2126. Olga Raffa
  2127.  
  2128. Them meaning the members of all the global march/protest groups.
  2129.  
  2130. 1:13am
  2131.  
  2132. Paul Mac
  2133.  
  2134. Of course, weird bunch, lets see how they fly post protest
  2135.  
  2136. 1:14am
  2137.  
  2138. Olga Raffa
  2139.  
  2140. Yes doing great thanks, keeping in close communication with main peeps here in the UK to get effective action moving... hope you are over the flu bug and keeping well yourselves.
  2141.  
  2142. 1:16am
  2143.  
  2144. Paul Mac
  2145.  
  2146. Just about over it, bloody thing is trying to linger but feeling muccccch better hunni, ty...yep important we build our own networks and keep pushing internationally, their lack of communications to global leaders will be a wake up call me thinks...we shall see
  2147.  
  2148. 1:18am
  2149.  
  2150. Olga Raffa
  2151.  
  2152. August 1
  2153.  
  2154. 4:26am
  2155.  
  2156. Olga Raffa
  2157.  
  2158. Those who lead, inspire. http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html?source=facebook#.URdqy-ucFnJ.facebook
  2159.  
  2160. Simon Sinek: How great leaders inspire action | Video on TED.com
  2161.  
  2162. www.ted.com
  2163.  
  2164. Simon Sinek has a simple but powerful model for inspirational leadership all starting with a golden circle and the question "Why?" His examples include Apple, Martin Luther King, and the Wright brothers ... <em>(Filmed at <a href=http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/72>TEDxPugetSound</a>.)</em>
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  2168. August 1
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  2170. 11:45am
  2171.  
  2172. Alexandra May Hunter
  2173.  
  2174. Thanks for sharing this Olga.
  2175.  
  2176. August 1
  2177.  
  2178. 4:35pm
  2179.  
  2180. Olga Raffa
  2181.  
  2182. Saturday
  2183.  
  2184. 8:08pm
  2185.  
  2186. Sheryll Thomas
  2187.  
  2188. http://dissembling.org/2013/08/16/global-march-for-chemtrails-has-some-fishy-management/?fb_action_ids=10152145911098989&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210152145911098989%22%3A319525894858048%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210152145911098989%22%3A%22og.likes%22%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
  2189.  
  2190. Global March For Chemtrails Has Some Fishy Management
  2191.  
  2192. dissembling.org
  2193.  
  2194. It would appear that We Are Change Victoria has uncovered some fishy management. It was mentioned to me that whoever is running the hub of this event deletes posts questioning who they are. There...
  2195.  
  2196.  
  2197.  
  2198. 8:33pm
  2199.  
  2200. Paul Mac
  2201.  
  2202. Have emailed Ryan Elson and explained where we are at with it all, waiting on a reply now.
  2203.  
  2204. 8:49pm
  2205.  
  2206. Alexandra May Hunter
  2207.  
  2208. thanks for the share Paul. I'll email this to Dane in case he doesn't know about this since he's got the 8/25 march posted on his web site, but Russ may have already filled Dane in. Cheers
  2209.  
  2210. Today
  2211.  
  2212. 12:02am
  2213.  
  2214. Alexandra May Hunter
  2215.  
  2216. Dane just sent me an email saying he thinks the organizer is some guy from Canada and that he's had a dialog with him...He said he gave Russ the info... ???
  2217.  
  2218. Today
  2219.  
  2220. 6:29am
  2221.  
  2222. Olga Raffa
  2223.  
  2224. That wouldn't be our 2 Krishna ladies somewhere in Belgium then. Maybe he is the one doing the website?
  2225.  
  2226. Just thought I would mention that I was wondering if Dane knew our concerns as GMACG was asking for names and addresses for Dane to send out packages to the organisers of the March.
  2227.  
  2228. 9:08am
  2229.  
  2230. Alexandra May Hunter
  2231.  
  2232. Olga----I thought the women are from Germany... If you talk to them again perhaps you can ask about their Canadian counter part. I have asked Dane for this person's name. He said he gave it to Russ. Perhaps Russ will fill us in. I would never give out Dane's information without his expressed permission. As far as who these people may really be, I have posted on my own FB page about this with a caveat that people should move forward with getting out there on 8/25. Everyone who knows me, knows that I operate from a place of complete transparency and integrity as have all the other leaders of this issue. We have been wise to flesh this out with whomever these people really are. As we all know, the people behind this chemtrails agenda are ruthless, vicious and are psychopathic murderers. It is always good to be cognizant of shadow groups who may insert themselves into an issue such as this and will attempt to subvert or co-opt the movement.
  2233.  
  2234. 9:22am
  2235.  
  2236. Alexandra May Hunter
  2237.  
  2238. Olga--let me know if we can skype--I just got a response from Dane
  2239.  
  2240. 9:23am
  2241.  
  2242. Olga Raffa
  2243.  
  2244. Can we skype in and hr? Just out the door.
  2245.  
  2246. 9:23am
  2247.  
  2248. Alexandra May Hunter
  2249.  
  2250. Perfect--when you get in just ring me up love! thanks
  2251.  
  2252. 9:23am
  2253.  
  2254. Olga Raffa
  2255.  
  2256. will do.x
  2257.  
  2258. Today
  2259.  
  2260. 1:35pm
  2261.  
  2262. Mona Norman
  2263.  
  2264. I have a Journalist working for the Independent wanting to interview me and any other hosts for the London march. I am just checking out to see if he is cool. Let me know if you will be willing to help, and be there on day to talk to him x x x
  2265.  
  2266. Today
  2267.  
  2268. 5:11pm
  2269.  
  2270. Paul Mac
  2271.  
  2272. Hi Guys, I made contact with Ryan from Canada, his reply is below, it seems he had the same reservations as we did, in terms of communication and transparency, , also have a communication from Mohini as well.
  2273.  
  2274. Ryan Elson I added an update to my article. My thoughts are that in order to be safe, always demand full transparency, always scrutinize leadership, question people's motives, and observe to see who operates with or without honour.
  2275.  
  2276. 09:08 Ryan Elson When asking for a little transparency, people running the show need to be who they are, be open and upfront and honest, be willing to deal with critical and relevant questioning, have a strong sense for free speech and open dialogue, and must operate with integrity. Fibbing, perception management (pr management), covering one's tracks, hiding and obfuscating facts, those are the mark of the infiltrator/saboteur.
  2277.  
  2278. 5:12pm
  2279.  
  2280. Paul Mac
  2281.  
  2282. Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Hi Paul -> Yesterday we thought they would have removed the bad article on us but they did not -> they even updated it -> but that are only few people over there - we are very sorry for the Rest of the people because we dont think that all are involved in that ->
  2283.  
  2284. 19:26 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering her is the update article -> http://dissembling.org/2013/08/16/global-march-for-chemtrails-has-some-fishy-management/
  2285.  
  2286. Global March For Chemtrails Has Some Fishy Management dissembling.org It would appear that We Are Change Victoria has uncovered some fishy management. It was mentioned to me that whoever is running the hub of this event deletes posts questioning who they are. There...
  2287.  
  2288. 19:28 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering I think you can understand easily why we are not inclined to reveal our identity to those people involved with that. We are in messages with someone else from that group and we even offered to talk by phone ... but somehow everything got realy messed up over there -> thus we got them out of our GmACAG list. Simple -> Its too much anti - what to do ... Sorry for the rest of the people ....really ...
  2289.  
  2290. 19:38 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering Our position and how all happened is very clearly described in our post on our wall - and we clarified that also on their eventpage but our clarification was removed and instead the bad posts about us were kept there. We dont need this - that is Trolling mentality only to create disunity ... no matter what we do. So what to do - we gave up on that one ... They are not walkin with us and never intended to -> Quotes by Coral Reef: 1. we here in Victoria have decided to do our own thing for our city. 2. we are not making a joined event so please do not join or link our event page...we will remain separate from you and your name. 3. Qoutes Pat Klugh ( autor of that defaming article ) We like to step out of the herd and try something different. -> i would prefer to see a variety of different things going on everywhere than just people marching and chanting like sheeple, (no offense to those that choose to do that)
  2291.  
  2292. 20:06 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering THey are disrespectful in any way and creating bad feeling - we just ask them to remove all articles that creat bad impression and disunity but they wont do that - thus we removed them. Simple. They can march as they like - but they showed by their behaviour that they actually not with all of us -> even they would claim that many times. Just determine a person by their action. The victoria chapter is closed for us. We just shaking our head about such small minded people and feel sorry for the real good hearted activists who wanted to join GMACAG -> because that was how it all started - with an eventpage for the Global March. But then all of a sudden they had removed any connection to the Global March what so ever and thus we had simply asked them to simply give some connection to the Global March ( already weeks ago when it happened we had asked them by email but they never came back on us - simply ignored us ) Then few days back we tried again same topic in messages and in this conversation it came out that they were not even sure that they would do the event and that they would be happy if we could find someone else to do that. -> That message we got from Coral ( host of the event - and we have all messages here with us) Thus we simply had set up a backup event for Victoria and even linked back to their event and then all got messed up much more - You can understand for the following message what was going on that time: Here is one of the beginning conversation from us to Josh ( an other admin of that event ) -> Hi Josh -> Coral told us you were not at all convinced whether you would even do the march or not. She said she would be happy if we would find someone else who will do this. So thats what we are doing. This is a Grassroot movement. Everyone can host this March. We would be happy if you would do it -> no problem with that -> other cities We Are Change came also forward -> but we had one problem also -> as its not obvious that you are joining the Gobal March Against Chemtrails And Geoengineering. You can do Chalk - A - Ton - no prob with that. Its actually a nice idea. But we have many people that are concerned with this GMACAG beeing run by organisations -> thats the main problem -> we dont want to give people the wrong impression. Thats all. And on your page and banner and all show no connection to GMACAG but thats a We Are Change Event ... no connection at all. You know -> this is not a thing of Name and fame - we not saying you can not use your name -> please get us right. But we are concerned not to give the wrong impression to people. And there are also other people who are normal people and not like wanting to join a Flash mob .... do you get the point ? We are not a Mob of people -< its actually very not good use of word. Hope you can understand that somehow. We should all work together -> We agree - and all others nicely join in. We can not understand what is the problem with that. And spaming our pages and make us look bad is not a spirit of team - actually its very much low - and actually it will make you look bad in the end. PLease stop this. We can understand that this is out of Ego only. So no problem with that. These things happen. We will be happy to welcome you to join the Global March and actually we had linked here your page also but Coral wanted it deleted - so we did that. So we will be happy if you could somehow understand that all and take action in right direction- you can run your event the way you want - but please considder our points also. So far we can not really see that we are working together yet-> would be nice if this could change. We Are Change ...lol We already tried to get in contact with Greg about this matter. So please consider our thoughts also. We should not be devided on bas of missunderstandings -> we have comon Goal... ok ? --- Then what followed was a long conversation with Jeff and he just agreed to make a simple connection to the Global March by giving a staement on top of their eventpage : this is the event in support of the Global March against Chemtrails and Geoengineering event on August 25th....So after that we were all happy and they were back in the team -> we thought ... lol -> but then they put defaming posts on their eventpage and kept them there and spamed us with that also in comments and events to create suspicion about us and this very bad article came on us and more spaming and defamation and profocation..... so we hope you will understand that we are not inclined to give our identity to those people ever who try to create disunity ... Hope you got a good understanding what is going on with this one event. What to do - such things happen. Happy to hear from you - Cheers
  2293.  
  2294. 20:08 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering THIS WAS OUR OFFICIAL STATEMENT TO THEIR DEFAMING ARTICLE ON US PLEASE READ THIS AND YOU WILL KNOW WHATS GOING ON _> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=143218115886648&set=a.121866538021806.1073741830.120482964826830&type=1&relevant_count=1 Photo Timeline Photos PLEASE ALL OF YOU HIT THE SHARE BUTOM - THAT IS TROLL ALARM - ALL OF YOU PLEASE ... Continue Reading by: Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering
  2295.  
  2296. 20:08 Global MARCH Against Chemtrails and Geoengeneering All the Best Mohini
  2297.  
  2298. Global March For Chemtrails Has Some Fishy Management
  2299.  
  2300. dissembling.org
  2301.  
  2302. It would appear that We Are Change Victoria has uncovered some fishy management. It was mentioned to me that whoever is running the hub of this event deletes posts questioning who they are. There...
  2303.  
  2304.  
  2305.  
  2306. 5:47pm
  2307.  
  2308. Alexandra May Hunter
  2309.  
  2310. Hi Guys--Olga & I skyped earlier. Olga received an email from the global march folks stating they needed the names & addresses of all of us, so they could give it to Dane, who was going to assemble and send info to all of us. (????) I have sent another email to Dane explaining this to him to find out if he knows anything about what they said in the email Olga received. Like I said Dane told me earlier that he's been dealing with some person named Troy from Canada who claims he's the guy running this group. I'm going to copy and paste this entire conversation and send it to Dane.
  2311.  
  2312. 5:52pm
  2313.  
  2314. Sheryll Thomas
  2315.  
  2316. Well we wont be giving them any such info re addresses etc
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