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Recommendation threads on /a/

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  1. Rec threads
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  3. Apr 20 18:23:02 <AZ4>   howdy y'all
  4. Apr 20 18:23:15 <Kusanagi>      texas pls go
  5. Apr 20 18:23:18 <Kusanagi>      j/k
  6. Apr 20 18:23:21 <AZ4>   did someone emssage me earlier today,m hexchat is saying so but I've been afk damn near th whole day
  7. Apr 20 18:23:27 <AZ4>   also rude
  8. Apr 20 18:23:46 <Kusanagi>      not that I'm aware, if it was someone it wasn't me
  9. Apr 20 18:23:52 <AZ4>   alrighty
  10. Apr 20 18:25:34 <AZ4>   can I treat subtle rec threads as plain rec threads?
  11. Apr 20 18:26:26 <Kusanagi>      like what threads do you mean AZ4
  12. Apr 20 18:26:35 <Kusanagi>      Can you give an example?
  13. Apr 20 18:26:36 <AZ4>   https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/105973702
  14. Apr 20 18:26:57 <Kusanagi>      We have 3x3 threads for a reason
  15. Apr 20 18:27:03 <Kusanagi>      yes you can remove that
  16. Apr 20 18:27:11 <Troid> oh come on
  17. Apr 20 18:27:19 <AZ4>   awesome
  18. Apr 20 18:27:29 <Troid> you people are crazy
  19. Apr 20 18:27:38 <AZ4>   and yeah I love 3x3 threads
  20. Apr 20 18:27:42 <Kusanagi>      What do you mean Troid
  21. Apr 20 18:27:50 <Troid> how was that a rec thread
  22. Apr 20 18:28:02 <Kusanagi>      It's not really a rec thread persay
  23. Apr 20 18:28:06 <Troid> "subtle" rec thread nothing, if someone asks for recommendations that's a rec thread, if not it's not
  24. Apr 20 18:28:13 <Kusanagi>      But it isn't the style of the thread the board noramally does
  25. Apr 20 18:28:20 <theomeo>       the assumption is people make 'favorite anime' threads so they can find anime to watch, similar to a rec thread
  26. Apr 20 18:28:20 <Troid> uh huh
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  28. Apr 20 18:28:41 <theomeo>       but yeah they are shit threads usually anyway
  29. Apr 20 18:28:43 <Troid> starting a thread because you want to find anime to watch is not against the rules
  30. Apr 20 18:28:51 <theomeo>       'this is my favorite thing' -> 'your favorite thing is stupid' -> 'nuh uh'
  31. Apr 20 18:29:03 <Kusanagi>      If I wasn't a janitor/mod for all this time I'd be inclinded to agree with you Troid but people really will try to make any type of thread to get recs
  32. Apr 20 18:29:40 <Kusanagi>      It is against the rules when requesting outside of /r/ is a rule
  33. Apr 20 18:29:55 <AZ4>   actually troid, I believe global rule 16 does prohibit requests thatv are made outside of /r/. And it doesn't matter if the request isn't explicitely states, as long as the request is still being conveyed
  34. Apr 20 18:30:04 <AZ4>   and kus has got this
  35. Apr 20 18:30:14 <Troid> [19:28:50] <Troid> starting a thread because you want to find anime to watch is not against the rules
  36. Apr 20 18:30:17 <Troid> I didn't say "requesting"
  37. Apr 20 18:30:22 <Kamui> Hmm, does the thread watcher not work anymore?
  38. Apr 20 18:30:23 *       Antarcticanon (~Antarctic@stay.frost.friend) has joined
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  40. Apr 20 18:30:37 <Troid> it shouldn't be our job to determine, "did this guy make a thread because he wants recs?"
  41. Apr 20 18:30:38 <Cryswar>       thread watcher seems to be working fine for me, what's the problem?
  42. Apr 20 18:30:41 <Kusanagi>      Here's the way I view  it
  43. Apr 20 18:30:44 <Troid> if the OP has something discussion-worthy in it, it shouldn't be deleted
  44. Apr 20 18:30:49 <Kusanagi>      I can't stop you from spoonfeeding someone asking for recs
  45. Apr 20 18:31:01 <Kusanagi>      But I can prevent them from keeping their thread live on the board
  46. Apr 20 18:31:25 <AZ4>   I woukdn't call a top 10 thread sicussion worthy, especially when threads of those kinds are formatted as 3x3 threads for those savvy with the board
  47. Apr 20 18:31:37 <Kusanagi>      Yep
  48. Apr 20 18:31:38 <Troid> two things
  49. Apr 20 18:31:45 <AZ4>   the lack of that awareness combined with their list (which is entirely entry level) suggests trawling for reccomendations
  50. Apr 20 18:31:49 <Troid> being un-savvy with the boards is not a rule violation
  51. Apr 20 18:31:59 <Troid> and if people post, discuss, agree and disagree with each other's list, then...?
  52. Apr 20 18:32:00 <Kusanagi>      Indeed
  53. Apr 20 18:32:10 <Kusanagi>      Then it's a pissing contest
  54. Apr 20 18:32:15 <Kusanagi>      I even saw MAL stats being linked
  55. Apr 20 18:32:16 <AZ4>   trawling for recomendations can either be considered a reccomendation thread, even if the request is not expkciite, we can divine the intention based on context
  56. Apr 20 18:32:24 <Kusanagi>      Which means the thread was turning into a pissing contest
  57. Apr 20 18:32:36 <AZ4>   or as a low quality of post, because the post contributes nothing escept encourages other users to post series that the OP has not listed
  58. Apr 20 18:33:01 <AZ4>   and yeah, fuck MAL
  59. Apr 20 18:33:09 <Troid> posting MAL stats is also not against the rules
  60. Apr 20 18:33:19 <Kusanagi>      3x3 threads are ideal on /a/ for discussion of taste
  61. Apr 20 18:33:20 <AZ4>   personal info?
  62. Apr 20 18:33:24 <Troid> uh no?
  63. Apr 20 18:33:34 <Troid> personal info means personally identifiable information aka dox
  64. Apr 20 18:33:37 <Kusanagi>      You can rate without having to give a full opinion and people will accept it
  65. Apr 20 18:34:25 <Kusanagi>      And it prevents new people from getting recs which is what the board is about
  66. Apr 20 18:34:42 <Kusanagi>      The people on /a/ don't want you no /a/ if you're new they'd rather you go to MAL or ANN
  67. Apr 20 18:34:50 <Troid> I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to treat all things that are "low-quality" from an /a/ veteran's standpoint, like MAL stats, as if they're rule violations
  68. Apr 20 18:35:08 <Kusanagi>      you don't understand with MAL though
  69. Apr 20 18:35:13 <Troid> I personally don't understand the distinction you're making between 3x3 threads and top 10 threads, or something like a WEG thread
  70. Apr 20 18:35:29 <Kusanagi>      It isn't doing anyone any good to link their profile for views and that's exactly what they really want
  71. Apr 20 18:35:36 <theomeo>       Troid: Take any of the non-rule-breaking threads that turn into absolute shit being nuked on a regular basis on other boards, and apply them to /a/
  72. Apr 20 18:35:41 <theomeo>       because MAL and fav anime threads do that
  73. Apr 20 18:35:59 <Troid> but a 3x3 thread doesn't because why?
  74. Apr 20 18:36:09 <theomeo>       ask the aspies
  75. Apr 20 18:36:13 <Kusanagi>      top 10 is almost spoonfeeding tier while 3x3 threads allow for discussion of true fans of the medium.
  76. Apr 20 18:37:16 <Troid> well, what you do seems to work for /a/ so there's no reason to change that
  77. Apr 20 18:37:19 <Kusanagi>      It isn't really about what you think about list threads
  78. Apr 20 18:37:22 <Troid> I still disagree though
  79. Apr 20 18:37:28 <AZ4>   3x3 threads have a culuural capital buy in, shows are not named outright and you have to be familair with all of the content being dicussed to actually tyake part in the conversation or learn anything from it.
  80. Apr 20 18:37:31 <Kusanagi>      It's about how the board percives them
  81. Apr 20 18:38:18 <AZ4>   that's aideal because reccomendation threads tend to generate a lot of toxicity and are generally harmful to the posting quality of the board, the 3x3 format allows the dicussion and aggregation of several shows of similar interest, taste or quality without that baggage
  82. Apr 20 18:38:26 <Troid> let me put it another way
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  85. Apr 20 18:39:12 <Kusanagi>      AZ4 I wouldn't BR them for it though
  86. Apr 20 18:39:14 <Kusanagi>      Just remove them
  87. Apr 20 18:39:19 <Kusanagi>      Since they are low in content
  88. Apr 20 18:39:35 <Troid> janitors operate on rules and "cultural buy-in" is not a rule. if a mod wants to remove or ban someone for a "low-quality" but on-topic thread they can do it, but a janitor shouldn't
  89. Apr 20 18:39:40 <theomeo>       he's saying you're loose canon cops and the mayors gonna have his ass because threads arent against the rules, just terrible
  90. Apr 20 18:39:48 <Troid> like, would you report a top 10 thread?
  91. Apr 20 18:39:57 <AZ4>   no, just delete it
  92. Apr 20 18:39:57 <Kusanagi>      yea
  93. Apr 20 18:40:00 <Kusanagi>      I would report that
  94. Apr 20 18:40:08 <Troid> the report category is "rule violation"
  95. Apr 20 18:40:13 <Antarcticanon> Wait, I just got here.
  96. Apr 20 18:40:15 <Kusanagi>      As a /a/non I think it takes away from the quality of the board
  97. Apr 20 18:40:17 <AZ4>   and yes kus, I generally only br blatant "Reccomend me X, because I liked Y and Z" threads
  98. Apr 20 18:40:22 <Antarcticanon> What is this mess?
  99. Apr 20 18:40:28 <Troid> just opinions
  100. Apr 20 18:40:36 <theomeo>       serious anime business
  101. Apr 20 18:40:42 <Kusanagi>      Here's the thing Troid
  102. Apr 20 18:40:50 <Kusanagi>      We can't stop every thread
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  104. Apr 20 18:41:40 <Kusanagi>      So it is highly likely that a top 10 anime thread will make it past us and that isn't a bad thing but when you spot those threads early on it's good to end them as the majority of the time they turn into flamewars on /a/ while a 3x3 thread will stay civil.
  105. Apr 20 18:42:15 <theomeo>       isn't "quality of posts" sort of a catch-all for this type of crap anyway? not saying it SHOULD apply to everything, but it's pretty subjective anyway
  106. Apr 20 18:42:20 <theomeo>       if you were to apply any rule to it, anyway
  107. Apr 20 18:42:36 <Kusanagi>      For rec threads request outside of /r/ is the rule
  108. Apr 20 18:42:48 <Kusanagi>      This discussion is covering those boarderline threads
  109. Apr 20 18:42:58 <Kusanagi>      Troid and I have different view points is all
  110. Apr 20 18:43:05 <Troid> my mouse is dyin
  111. Apr 20 18:43:52 <Troid> theomeo: http://archive.foolz.us/q/thread/770091/#770249
  112. Apr 20 18:44:04 <Troid> sometimes it's also used like a lighter version of the trolling ban
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  115. Apr 20 18:44:50 <AZ4>   Part of what makes me salty about it is the fact tat often, these types of threads bear the intent that the OP wants something from the board. He wants new titles to watch, but he doesn't want to spend any time participating or contributing to the board to find it, and doesn't want to give anything back to the board. So, rather than lurking or taking part ind ucsission and healthy board activities until he's found what he wants, he'kll
  116. Apr 20 18:44:51 <AZ4>    make a thread that provokes users to post the titles of anime, through any number of various ruses that cotnribute nothing to the discourse of the board
  117. Apr 20 18:45:15 <Troid> actually global 3 and global 6 kind of conflict a lot, especially considering global 3 cites "indecipherable text" but global 6 is most often used for that kind of XDDD gibberish
  118. Apr 20 18:45:48 <AZ4>   I think that case constitutes a pretty clear use case for rule 6
  119. Apr 20 18:45:49 <Kusanagi>      It depends on how bad you shit post for me Troid
  120. Apr 20 18:45:58 <Kusanagi>      quality is 1day
  121. Apr 20 18:46:04 <Kusanagi>      While garbage is 3
  122. Apr 20 18:46:08 <WhatWinterLeft>        Thats how I use it
  123. Apr 20 18:46:14 <Kusanagi>      If you shit post hard enough I'll global 3 you
  124. Apr 20 18:47:01 <Kusanagi>      global 6 is really used like that mod is saying though
  125. Apr 20 18:47:14 <Kusanagi>      I only global 3 you for XDD shit if it's really bad
  126. Apr 20 18:47:40 <AZ4>   makes sense, I actually didn't know the ban length difference
  127. Apr 20 18:48:02 <Kusanagi>      quality is a local ban instead of a global right now
  128. Apr 20 18:48:13 <Kusanagi>      So local bans mean that you're banned from a specific board
  129. Apr 20 18:48:44 <WhatWinterLeft>        I wonder if I should suggest /jp/'s off topic rule to be a 1 day local instead of 3 day
  130. Apr 20 18:48:46 <Kusanagi>      so global 6 is a good BR to use on /a/ cause it tells them this type of posting isn't allowed on /a/
  131. Apr 20 18:48:53 <Kusanagi>      global 3 is really more for like troll fuckers
  132. Apr 20 18:48:59 <WhatWinterLeft>        Since the majority of shit is literally global 3 material
  133. Apr 20 18:49:00 <Kusanagi>      People posting flame bait posts and such
  134. Apr 20 18:49:43 <AZ4>   makes sense
  135. Apr 20 18:49:52 <Kusanagi>      The only emoticon I use global 3 for is the :^)
  136. Apr 20 18:49:57 <AZ4>   speaking of which I just global 3'd a post. Is that about on target?
  137. Apr 20 18:50:01 <Kusanagi>      Cause it comes from /s4s/
  138. Apr 20 18:50:39 <Kusanagi>      Kinda
  139. Apr 20 18:50:44 <Troid> see that's why I think team /a/ is crazy
  140. Apr 20 18:50:57 <Troid> there isn't any other board where ":^)" is a post is worth a global 4
  141. Apr 20 18:50:59 <Troid> *3
  142. Apr 20 18:51:13 <Troid> and I hate /s4s/, too
  143. Apr 20 18:51:13 <Kusanagi>      But not really cause it isn't quite at the level I'm looking for, like the macro part of global 3 isn't as important as the troll and flame parts of the rule to me
  144. Apr 20 18:51:30 <Kusanagi>      Since macro images are everywhere these days
  145. Apr 20 18:52:01 <AZ4>   Alright, I just figured because it was a silly /pol/ troll htread
  146. Apr 20 18:52:21 <Kusanagi>      Was that an OP AZ4?
  147. Apr 20 18:52:25 <AZ4>   yes
  148. Apr 20 18:52:38 <Kusanagi>      It's borderline
  149. Apr 20 18:52:42 <Kusanagi>      Indeed
  150. Apr 20 18:52:50 <Kusanagi>      But still sorta of anime related
  151. Apr 20 18:53:53 <AZ4>   I was on the fence, but figured that racism used for trolling, + someone kept bumping the thread every minute or so qith /pol/ macros
  152. Apr 20 18:54:12 <WhatWinterLeft>        One of my old spammers got absolutely blasted that I deleted his tumblr link with :^) in the post too
  153. Apr 20 18:54:20 <Kusanagi>      Yea if you're seeing that type of shit BR indeed I filled it since you said it was /pol/ shit
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  155. Apr 20 18:54:44 <AZ4>   cool beans
  156. Apr 20 18:54:52 <AZ4>   I just want to make sure I'm not being too strict with some of this shit
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