8el's RFD for http://www.debate.org/debates/Resolved-Abortion-should-be-Illegal-Except-in-life-threatening-cases/3/

kingkd's overall strategy in this debate was to use the status of people to value their opinion/quote. On the other hand, Midnight1131's overall strategy was to rely on "human rights" and seeing them as sacred for no apparent reason.

What this comes down to, then, is who pointed out the flaw in the other's strategy better.

Kingkd's opposition to the rape argument was that money does not justify killing an that rape is only about 1% of all pregnancies (which he didn't cite the source of and if he had would have realize this is a lie). In Round 3, Midnight spots this error and cites the source. He also explains how a fetus and child are different in more ways than one. Kingkd seems to state that dependency does not determine personhood but doesn't retort the rape statistic he brought up being a total lie and drops the rape argument altogether.

Score: P 0-1 C

Kingkd in round one gives a quote stating that the fetus is independent but then rebuts Con's rebuttal about dependency saying that dependency is not proportional to how human something is or how alive it is. Kingkd set himself up to fail by bringing this quote up in the opening arguments. Unfortunately for Midnight, he didn't poke at this contradiction in Pro's opening argument versus rebuttal but successfully destroys Pro on the matter of the fetus being totally dependent on another lifeform in any conceivable way. If Midnight had mentioned that King opened with an argument regarding a fetus being independent, he'd have completely destroyed him but he wins this point nonetheless.

Score: P 0-2 C

Con states that immorality does not dictate law but this is totally and utterly untrue. Law is purely based on morality but since Pro never attacked this major flaw in Midnight's case, Midnight doesn't lose the point but doesn't gain one either. The morality issue of abortion (dubbed FLO by King) becomes Moot.

Score: P 0-2 C

On the matter of legality of abortions meaning more people choose to have them, both came from totally different angles. King looked at the fact that legal abortions occur far more when abortion is legalized than when it is not but also showed that the longer abortion stays legalized the more commonly they begin to occur, up to a point. This point was not refuted, so Pro keeps this point. If Midnight had pointe out that more and more states were beginning to legalize it and that the population was also growing over those years rapidly and that was the reason for the increase in the number of abortions,they could have snatched the point. What Con did with this was to deny the statistics having any validity due to back alley abortions. This is not entirely valid as Pro's statistics were all over a period when abortion was legalized (but the key factor was that they didn't include as many states having it legalized from the beginning to the end). Pro could have easily snatched this point back for a double whammy but went in a peculiar way to rebut the illegal abortions argument with the fact that 'saving more lives is important'. This was nothing to do with the rebuttal that Con raised and King lost this point. Therefore, both gain a point from this dispute.

Score: P 1-3 C

As for the right to privacy argument, Cob was foolish to bring it up at all. Midnight's strategy with the right to privacy, however, seems to be to bait Pro to make the right to life argument. This worked brilliantly and even if Con didn't intend it to go that way, the right to privacy magically vanished form debate in later rounds and the right to life debate became the fundamental issue. This all began because to combat the right to privacy issue, King stated that the right to life triumphs all as an axiom. He tried to compare this to a cell phone versus texting choice but didn't remotely correlate that analogy to the right to life so I'm not giving that point to anyone. Con immediately began to tear at the right to life assertion and snags this point.

Score: P 1-4 C

All other points were intertwined in the disputes over the ones already mentioned.

This is my Reason For my Decision (RFD), thanks for reading.