[16:31] <&@Mizuhime> lmao
[16:31] <&@Mizuhime> i was just linked a post in ubers that made me actually laugh out loud
[16:31] <&@Mizuhime> amazing
[16:32] <@Joim> link
[16:32] <&@Mizuhime> http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ubers-community.3528070/#post-6008159
[16:32] <&@Mizuhime> tl;dr im a bad tier leader and promote shit talking
[16:32] <&@Mizuhime> at least that's what i gathered form it
[16:34] <pookar> bird up
[16:39] <@Joim> lol
[16:40] <&@Mizuhime> is that
[16:40] <&@Mizuhime> the correct assumption there?
[16:40] <@Joim> what I see, and he's right
[16:40] <@Joim> is people love to throw shit and criticize
[16:41] <@Joim> and it's funny because he's done it so (and admits it)
[16:41] <faint> sry mizuhime i influenced this thread
[16:41] <faint> i talked about how shit ubers was
[16:41] <@Joim> tbh doubles _is_ the most abrasive tier on smogon
[16:41] <faint> and then all my tier leaders pm'd me and agreed
[16:41] <&@Arcticblast> Mizuhime if you have a problem with it take it up with him in private
[16:41] <&@Mizuhime> i dont
[16:41] <&@Mizuhime> i think its funny lol
[16:42] <&@Mizuhime> people talk shit, it's a friggen online community
[16:42] <&@Mizuhime> it's p common
[16:43] <@Joim> doubles has a problem though
[16:43] <@Joim> it's not just shit talking
[16:43] <pookar> be nice
[16:43] <pookar> bird up
[16:43] <@Joim> people are outright offensive towards others
[16:43] <&@Mizuhime> the people i see "shit talk" the most
[16:43] <@Joim> for the sake of being offensive
[16:43] <&@Mizuhime> are the ps room people
[16:43] <@Joim> in an "lol look how cool I am insulting you" attitude
[16:44] <&@Mizuhime> i seldom go to the ps room
[16:44] <&@Mizuhime> so ~n_n~
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[16:44] <faint> joim, the reason why i joined this room
[16:44] <faint> was to see if what happens in ubers happens elsewhere
[16:45] <@Joim> heh
[16:45] <faint> you have never experienced the a circlejerk until you've joined ubers for at least 10 minutes
[16:45] <@Joim> is it that bad lol
[16:45] <&@Arcticblast> I've seen that room
[16:45] <&@Arcticblast> it is indeed that bad
[16:45] <faint> i have it off ajoin
[16:45] <faint> i'm still a hop
[16:45] <@Joim> I've been around old gens lately only
[16:45] <faint> its always been bad
[16:45] <@Joim> just because attitude there is chill
[16:45] <faint> its 100x worse during spl
[16:46] <faint> but the irony
[16:46] <faint> is that as i read this thread
[16:46] <faint> the people agreeing with what i've been saying for years
[16:46] <faint> are apart of the problem
[16:46] <faint> if they were actually serious
[16:46] <faint> we wouldn't have any issues
[16:46] <faint> but nobody wants to look bad in front of their peers
[16:46] <faint> i've openly called them out on their bs on irc
[16:47] <faint> i won't do so on the forums though
[16:48] <&@Mizuhime> i think if you take it serious when someone attempts to shit talk you on the internet
[16:48] <&@Mizuhime> you have a problem lol
[16:48] <@Joim> maybe you should
[16:48] <&@Mizuhime> you know how many people attempt to shit talk me
[16:48] <@Joim> I think the people who shit talk a lot have a problem
[16:48] <@Joim> probably self confidence and self esteem
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[16:49] <@Joim> it's the common denominator on abrasive people who are always onto others
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[16:50] <faint> shit talking will always exist, mizuhime
[16:50] <faint> but when it's 10 v 1
[16:50] <&@Mizuhime> so why get upset about it when they talk lol
[16:50] <faint> there's a problem
[16:50] <faint> it becomes bullying
[16:50] <faint> and encourages others to join in even if they want to defend the person
[16:50] <&@Mizuhime> which i wouldn't allow if i saw it
[16:51] <&@Mizuhime> i stop my team from shit talking, and i stop it when i see it
[16:51] <&@Mizuhime> i called him a shit stain for using a skill-less matchup reliant team
[16:51] <&@Mizuhime> that promotes poor team building
[16:51] <faint> i think we're talking about two diff things here
[16:51] <faint> i'm not talking about you
[16:51] <@Joim> yeah then I should've banned half of smogon after the edited log incident
[16:51] <@Joim> I just said: fuck you all
[16:51] <faint> or what you do as a tier leader
[16:51] <@Joim> and stopped being here altogether
[16:51] <faint> i'm speaking in general
[16:51] <faint> or more specifically on behalf of ubers
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[16:52] <&@Mizuhime> he's using me as an example of
[16:52] <&@Mizuhime> "loose cannons in charge of things"
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[16:52] <&@Mizuhime> which is a slap in the face considering his past
[16:52] <faint> who is he?
[16:52] <&@Mizuhime> zach
[16:52] <faint> the post you linked?
[16:52] <faint> if you want it down i can pm an ubers mod to edit it
[16:52] <@~Pwnemon> .log
11:52 faint: if you want it down i can pm an ubers mod to edit it
11:52 Mizuhime: ill edit myself i need to
11:53 Mizuhime: if i need to
11:54 faint: well personally i don't see why he's using you as a tier leader as an example
11:54 faint: i'm not going to read the post
11:54 faint: but if he's saying uber tier leaders are shit
11:54 faint: he is wrong
11:54 faint: the only problem with them is that they're too nice
11:54 faint: and like to turn a blind eye to this shit
11:54 Mizuhime: no he's saying there is loose cannons in charge of things like tournaments and doubles
11:54 Mizuhime: which is funny
11:54 faint: because they see who is causing an issue, realize it's someone well known, and feel they're immune