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Klefsas??: Greetings
Klefsas??: France don`t want to play 2nd map with us
Klefsas??: What we should to do?
Klefsas??: Hello
kKaltUu: check steam chat
Klefsas??: With you?
kKaltUu: I invited you to a chat
Klefsas??: M...
Klefsas??: I see nothing
Klefsas??: Resend invite
Klefsas??: Plz
kKaltUu: can you invite me and mista to chat?
Your chat with kKaltUu is now a multi-user chat.
Mista entered chat.
kKaltUu: Hi, the other games are getting DDoSed too
kKaltUu: I'd like to reschedule games to an unknown date (for the public) so you can play in peace
kKaltUu: the map being played now is steel, right?
Mista: yep
Klefsas??: Yes
kKaltUu: I want to agree on another date to play, and post an admin comment on the match page
kKaltUu: so the general public doesn't know that it'll be played
kKaltUu: so what days are you available to play?
Mista: sunday
kKaltUu: I want at least 2 days before sunday
kKaltUu: so wednesday - thursday - friday - saturday
Mista: i would like to ask ppl but they offline
Klefsas??: Wait please, let my team speak to you
kKaltUu: sunday is the very last day so I'd like to schedule it a bit earlier
Klefsas??: why do you want to reshedule this? there was no server ddos
Klefsas??: and they had every merc they needed and 50 min pauses
Klefsas??: they had 9 ppl in and we played as usual
Klefsas??: after 1 hour and 40 min. of playing one map they suddenly cant play
Klefsas??: we allowed a NON rostered merc and gave them pauses over 30 min.
Klefsas??: i dont think there is a need of resheduling since only ONE guy got ddosed and the other one timed out, got every merc they needed.
Klefsas??: where is the problem now?
Mista: the server was ddosed
kKaltUu: all the matches have been plagued with technical issues, anyone watching any of the matches can see this isn't what we want. ETF2L does not have any servers to provide, so rescheduling and making sure matches are drawn-out pausefests looks like the only sensible solution.
Mista: nico and izzy were both ddosed
Mista: we played 8v9 for a long time and then we went offclassing so the game could go on
Mista: but after a point, it's just too much
Mista: when a 30 min map lasts for 1 hour 40 minutes
Mista: everyone is exhausted and frustrated
Mista: there's no point in playing anymore in those conditions
Mista: we are ok to play on saturday
lippy entered chat.
Klefsas??: yo mista, as i speak for my team, they dont see a point of resheduling that match
Klefsas??: since we played fair , you had one guy getting ddosed and one timed out
Klefsas??: we allowed every merc , gave you pauses over 30 min.
Klefsas??: you had 9 ppl on the server, we had one ddos which was fixed instantly and we continued without problems
Klefsas??: Mista: the server was ddosed ; we had a 10 sec SERVER ddos and fixed it with a new server and finished the map
Klefsas??: with 9v9
Mista: you allowed one merc, not "every merc" btw
Klefsas??: You asked for 1
Mista: i dont see where you guys are going ?
Mista: you want default win ?
Mista: you won that map if it's that you're afraid of
Klefsas??: we have server, this server is works fine, we have full rouster, you refuse to play
Mista: we don't dispute that you won the map even under those poor circumstances I stated
lippy: i don't wanted def win, but we played proc and waited 50 mins in pause
Klefsas??: And you used 3 or 4 pauses
lippy: and i personaly don't want same shit in some other day
Mista: and you were very comprehensive
Mista: that's why admins planned to play that game on a "secret" date
Mista: no one will know the time except us
Klefsas??: No reason to play this game on "secret" date
Klefsas??: Cos we have WORKED server
Klefsas??: You just should come and play second map
Klefsas??: And don`t blame server DDOS
Klefsas??: Cos only your players was DDOSed
Klefsas??: And after server started to lag, we changet it
Mista: the server was ddosed
Klefsas??: And continued to play
Klefsas??: And you hade no complanes
Mista: yes, and finished the map
Mista: but that's the last map we would play under those conditions for one night
Klefsas??: But now you loose and you want to change the date, but i saying to you
Klefsas??: WE HAVE
Klefsas??: SERVEr
Klefsas??: Come and play
Mista: people had to leave, a map isn't supposed to last 2 hours
Klefsas??: Yes, you hade no rights to take 40 min pause
kKaltUu: Klefsas is right, you are entitled to 5 minutes of pausing
lippy: i don't wanted def win
lippy: but
kKaltUu: But on the other hand all matches tonight are plagued with ddossing.
Mista: ddos are exceptional circumstances
lippy: we waited 50 mins in pause
lippy: changed server
lippy: did everything for you
kKaltUu: The only reasonable thing for me to do is to ask for a replay on a different date.
Klefsas??: The thing is that we played fine
lippy: and we just don't wanted to play another 2 houes game in some other day
Klefsas??: Our server was DDOSED, right. But we take another and finished process there
Klefsas??: And you, Mista, say nothing
lippy: i'm just madd coz of the fact what you just leave
Klefsas??: But after procces you just leave, right
lippy: after we did all of this
Mista: i said brb, i went to talk with kkaltuu
lippy: ok
Klefsas??: And left my team on server without DDOS
Mista: i left the game to open steam friends
Mista: otherwise they would have gotten the ip of the new server
lippy: so, what we gonna do kkaltuu?
Klefsas??: We played whole process without DDOS, cos after it starts we changet server and all was fine.
Klefsas??: And we should play steel on that server
Mista: not true klefsas
kKaltUu: give me two dates your team is able to play on this week.
kKaltUu: overlapping day will be the day steel gets to be played on.
Mista: so no sunday?
Mista: sunday saturday would be good
Mista: otherwise friday saturday
kKaltUu: I'd rather have it earlier, if not then ut's sunday
kKaltUu: Klefsas please tell me which days you are submitting
Klefsas??: Not easy task, you know
Klefsas??: We can only on sunday\
kKaltUu: Ok, I'll make a note for sunday
Mista: wait we can't sunday after all
Mista: razer cup..
kKaltUu: RIP
Klefsas??: But it`s not actualy fair. We don`t play now not cos of DDOS
Mista: ddos is never fair bro
Klefsas??: But cos you just don`t whant to
Klefsas??: And you broke rulles a few times
Mista: sorry klefsas but yes we DONT WANT to play under these circumstances
Klefsas??: I just imagine if we was swaped
Klefsas??: Don`t think this chat would ever exist
kKaltUu: can't you skip the razer cup?
Klefsas??: You don`t want to play not cos of DDOS, cos we have good server.
Mista: that's unfair to say that klefsas, how would you even know
Klefsas??: You hade 40 min pause
Klefsas??: You pause the game 4 times
Klefsas??: You hade your merks
Klefsas??: And now, we talking about another date?
Klefsas??: I JUST IMAGINE
kKaltUu: I expect some leniency from you Mista
Klefsas??: If Team Ukraine did all this
Klefsas??: Maby we should stick with rulles
Klefsas??: ?
Klefsas??: I see your position
Klefsas??: You don`t want to play cos of DDOS
Klefsas??: BUT< AGAIN
Klefsas??: You just leave from good server
Klefsas??: And don`t want to play without serious reason
kKaltUu: the problem is that you can't expect someone to say for 1.5 hours if a match is supposed to take 1 hour max.
Mista: half of our players had to leave
Klefsas??: Yes but that match was so long cos of 40 min pause
Klefsas??: Not cos of server DDOS
Mista: which happened because players got ddosed
Klefsas??: You right, players
Klefsas??: Players =\= games
Klefsas??: Am I right, Kkaltuu?
kKaltUu: both of you have some points, but france isn't handling this as they should atm.
Mista: how are we supposed to handle that
Klefsas??: The point is that we finished 1st map. Server wasn`t DDOSed. We changed map. Team France leave.
Klefsas??: If Team refuse to play
Klefsas??: Team looses
Klefsas??: Cos server had no DDOS
lippy is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
Klefsas??: And I don`t even need to show all you rulle brakings
Klefsas??: To take this match
kKaltUu: this is a special situation, hence I want to have you guys play it on another date. nobody could have foreseen the first map would take an hour extra and forcing players to play under such cirumstances is just plain stupid
Klefsas??: Why this is special situation?
Klefsas??: We played so long because Team France had 40 min pause
Klefsas??: Why we should play this game again?
Klefsas??: Cos Team France don`t want to play it today?
Mista: and why we had a pause ?
Klefsas??: Cos your player hade bad connection
Mista: he got ddosed
Klefsas??: But wen that was a "special situation"?
Klefsas??: Just take a merk
lippy left chat.
Klefsas??: And keep playing
Mista: it's an unfinishable "discussion"
Klefsas??: And you did it
Klefsas??: No, it is
Mista: we did it just to get over with that map
Mista: and we shouldnt have tbh
Mista: playing 8v9, offclassing
Klefsas??: Just agree with fact that you used pause 4 times and that takes 40 minutes
kKaltUu: your roster should be your responsibility mista
Klefsas??: Just agree with that fact that we allowed you all merks
kKaltUu: you're entitled to 5 minutes of pausing, anything agove that is courteous of UA
Klefsas??: Agree with fact, that we had good server and finished process without DDOS
Mista: we never denied their comprehensiveness
Mista: but now it looks like more default hunting
Klefsas??: Is looks like you make alot of mistakes
Klefsas??: And now trying to avoid punishment
Mista: what mistakes lol?
Mista: hahaha "punishment"
Klefsas??: hahaha
Klefsas??: Funny guy
Mista: i'm sorry but i don't want to "discus" with you anymore bro
kKaltUu: stop bitching and think of solutions
Mista: solutions are friday and saturday
Mista: those are our days
Klefsas??: I don`t see a reason to change the match date and play it again
Klefsas??: Cos Team France can`t play only cos they don`t want to
Klefsas??: There is nothing special wi players got DDOSed
Klefsas??: I just can`t acept fact that ETF2L administration want to change match date only cos FR team don`t want to finish it on scheduled date
Klefsas??: Even
Klefsas??: Cos we played process too long
Klefsas??: BUT
Klefsas??: Why?
Klefsas??: Cos of 40 min pause for team FR
Klefsas??: Do I need to copy paste rulles here?
kKaltUu: at the start of this conversation it wasn't a matter of don't want to, but straight out can't. it's 1 hr later so any chance of it still being played is gone
Klefsas??: My team can play it
Klefsas??: Even now
Klefsas??: Ant its not technocal or our problems that team FR refuse to play it
Klefsas??: And its not technical*
Klefsas??: If you refusing to play the match without a serious reason, so what?
Klefsas??: How many games was reschedulet cos of reasons like this
Klefsas??: ?
kKaltUu: all of them
Klefsas??: Reason: Team don`t want to play
Klefsas??: ??|}
Klefsas??: We had no DDos problems
Klefsas??: We changet server and finished the process
Mista: zzzzzz
kKaltUu: so I take it you don't want to reschedule, do you want to claim a default win?
Klefsas??: Yes
kKaltUu: Ok, will make a match complaint.
Klefsas??: What complain?
kKaltUu: will let you know what we decide on, good night bot of you