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  1. [2017-03-17 17:01:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anyways welcome to another fanciful AC meeting
  2. [2017-03-17 17:01:46] <Nyrie> hi
  3. [2017-03-17 17:01:52] <Lord_Bowser> holla
  4. [2017-03-17 17:01:53] <Freakworld> im german representative #2
  5. [2017-03-17 17:01:55] <DragonFreak> 6very fanciful
  6. [2017-03-17 17:01:57] <turb> :clap:
  7. [2017-03-17 17:02:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4today on the docket is:
  8. [2017-03-17 17:02:02] <Freakworld> Stets zu Diensten
  9. [2017-03-17 17:02:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*merger details
  10. [2017-03-17 17:02:10] <Freakworld> just pretend im edo
  11. [2017-03-17 17:02:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*token stuff maybe if edo shows up
  12. [2017-03-17 17:02:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*continue with mario awards
  13. [2017-03-17 17:02:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so first up then is merger stuff
  14. [2017-03-17 17:02:33] * Superchao puts on his fancy suit
  15. [2017-03-17 17:02:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4on the forum we decided:
  16. [2017-03-17 17:02:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 Merge the Shroom Awards and User Awards ceremonies into one single ceremony?
  17. [2017-03-17 17:02:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4overwhelmingly yes
  18. [2017-03-17 17:02:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so that's what we're doing
  19. [2017-03-17 17:02:49] <Freakworld> btw you wanted to know voted no right
  20. [2017-03-17 17:02:53] <Superchao> here's to the era of Community Awards
  21. [2017-03-17 17:02:53] <Freakworld> that was me
  22. [2017-03-17 17:02:58] |<-- Mariofan169 has left irc.darkmyst.org (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  23. [2017-03-17 17:03:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I figured
  24. [2017-03-17 17:03:04] <DragonFreak> 6CA california
  25. [2017-03-17 17:03:08] <turb> i knew it
  26. [2017-03-17 17:03:09] <Freakworld> i retract that vote because i still didnt think of any valid reason behind my thoughts
  27. [2017-03-17 17:03:10] <Lord_Bowser> ayy
  28. [2017-03-17 17:03:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4you were the only one to dissent during the meeting and also provided almost no reasoning
  29. [2017-03-17 17:03:30] <Freakworld> change to abstain or whatever if thats possible
  30. [2017-03-17 17:03:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4before we shove this on over to the shroom to begin their own discussions, we gotta make some quick votes on basic things
  31. [2017-03-17 17:03:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4first up would be a new name
  32. [2017-03-17 17:04:01] <Meta_Knight> 10i vote for Community Awards
  33. [2017-03-17 17:04:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"Community Awards" has been the only idea presented so far
  34. [2017-03-17 17:04:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other suggestions?
  35. [2017-03-17 17:04:18] <Lord_Bowser> that's most fitting imo
  36. [2017-03-17 17:04:22] <Superchao> i've got nothing, i don't think anything else covers this
  37. [2017-03-17 17:04:34] <Lord_Bowser> the number though
  38. [2017-03-17 17:04:39] <Freakworld> can i abstain on this entire topic actually
  39. [2017-03-17 17:04:44] <Lakituthequick> Pretty descriptive, its nice
  40. [2017-03-17 17:05:11] <Freakworld> its not like i dont care its just idk what i want
  41. [2017-03-17 17:05:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4you can
  42. [2017-03-17 17:05:17] <Freakworld> so i dont feel qualified to vote
  43. [2017-03-17 17:05:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if there's no other suggestions for a name we can just accept "Community Awards"
  44. [2017-03-17 17:05:39] <turb> i have no suggestions
  45. [2017-03-17 17:05:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so I'll mark that down now
  46. [2017-03-17 17:06:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the next decision is about numbering it
  47. [2017-03-17 17:06:19] <Meta_Knight> 10i think we should have the 5 user awards then the 10 shrooms award
  48. [2017-03-17 17:06:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if we should start fresh at Community Awards I, or continue with Community Awards X through where User Awards was at
  49. [2017-03-17 17:06:35] <Lord_Bowser> i say x
  50. [2017-03-17 17:06:38] <Meta_Knight> 10oh you mean numbering liike that
  51. [2017-03-17 17:06:40] <Superchao> X sounds okay
  52. [2017-03-17 17:06:46] <Nyrie> x
  53. [2017-03-17 17:06:51] <Meta_Knight> 10X
  54. [2017-03-17 17:06:52] <Superchao> it's the same thing but renamed
  55. [2017-03-17 17:06:55] <Superchao> as opposed to if it was like
  56. [2017-03-17 17:06:57] <Superchao> totally new
  57. [2017-03-17 17:07:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4on the forum I was the only one to say I but that was at the beginning of the topic
  58. [2017-03-17 17:07:09] <Lakituthequick> <s>27</s> 10
  59. [2017-03-17 17:07:17] <turb> im fine with x
  60. [2017-03-17 17:07:40] <Lord_Bowser> although mk brought up a point though
  61. [2017-03-17 17:07:46] <Lord_Bowser> how will they be ordered
  62. [2017-03-17 17:07:52] <Lord_Bowser> user first or shroom first
  63. [2017-03-17 17:07:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4shroom will decide that
  64. [2017-03-17 17:08:03] <Superchao> i'd like user second actually
  65. [2017-03-17 17:08:07] <Lord_Bowser> me too
  66. [2017-03-17 17:08:08] <Freakworld> america first
  67. [2017-03-17 17:08:13] <Superchao> that way lifetime community achivement award comes last
  68. [2017-03-17 17:08:18] <Lord_Bowser> ^
  69. [2017-03-17 17:08:24] <turb> ^
  70. [2017-03-17 17:08:26] <turb> but yeah
  71. [2017-03-17 17:08:30] <Freakworld> that sounds good though
  72. [2017-03-17 17:08:30] <Meta_Knight> 10i'll set up a shroom meeting for further discussion later
  73. [2017-03-17 17:08:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4they could also be completely mixed around too
  74. [2017-03-17 17:08:35] <turb> this is something that the shroom staff has an opinion on too
  75. [2017-03-17 17:08:36] <shoutmon> 7they could be interleve--
  76. [2017-03-17 17:08:39] <turb> yeah that
  77. [2017-03-17 17:08:39] <Meta_Knight> 10thats a good point
  78. [2017-03-17 17:08:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but that's not what we're discussing now so _
  79. [2017-03-17 17:09:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but if no one has any complaints about Community Awards X we can just bypass a vote and accept that
  80. [2017-03-17 17:09:17] <Lord_Bowser> sounds good to me
  81. [2017-03-17 17:09:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with this comes the assumption that the denotation will change from S#/U# to C#
  82. [2017-03-17 17:09:49] <Superchao> name it Q
  83. [2017-03-17 17:09:54] <Superchao> just to fuck with everyone
  84. [2017-03-17 17:09:57] <Superchao> (i have no objections)
  85. [2017-03-17 17:09:57] <Freakworld> per
  86. [2017-03-17 17:10:04] <Lakituthequick> Quality Awards
  87. [2017-03-17 17:10:06] <Lord_Bowser> c is good yeah
  88. [2017-03-17 17:10:06] <turb> im good with this
  89. [2017-03-17 17:10:08] <Lakituthequick> (per C)
  90. [2017-03-17 17:10:12] <Superchao> but ltq
  91. [2017-03-17 17:10:16] <Superchao> that implies we have quality
  92. [2017-03-17 17:10:22] <Lakituthequick> yes
  93. [2017-03-17 17:10:30] <Nyrie> c is a-ok
  94. [2017-03-17 17:10:33] <Lakituthequick> you said 'to fuck with everyone'
  95. [2017-03-17 17:10:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the dossier and historical results are bureaucratic things that we've settled on on the forum
  96. [2017-03-17 17:10:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and those were to continue the dossier system we've been going with for a few years now
  97. [2017-03-17 17:10:53] <Superchao> brb
  98. [2017-03-17 17:11:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and in the historical results to create a new sheet for Community Awards
  99. [2017-03-17 17:11:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4re: scheduling I'd like to put this one to a vote just because, even though we won't need to determine this until months from now but it's good to decide it all at once
  100. [2017-03-17 17:12:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and before everyone starts yelling their vote let me introduce it and then call the vote
  101. [2017-03-17 17:12:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38354.msg1918568#msg1918568
  102. [2017-03-17 17:12:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4referring to the Scheduling section
  103. [2017-03-17 17:12:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with this cutting ~5 awards, tbd, we will end up with more time
  104. [2017-03-17 17:12:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4free time, rather
  105. [2017-03-17 17:13:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so a decision would need to be made about what to do with it
  106. [2017-03-17 17:13:07] <Freakworld> time for more bloopers
  107. [2017-03-17 17:13:08] <Superchao> hmm
  108. [2017-03-17 17:13:10] <Freakworld> extended cuzt
  109. [2017-03-17 17:13:12] <Freakworld> *cut
  110. [2017-03-17 17:13:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4whether to allow for longer breaks, or to end the ceremony sooner
  111. [2017-03-17 17:13:17] <Lord_Bowser> i feel like allotting that extra time to intermissions would be best
  112. [2017-03-17 17:13:18] <Superchao> if we have 25 minutes
  113. [2017-03-17 17:13:21] <Superchao> i'd support doing both
  114. [2017-03-17 17:13:26] <Lord_Bowser> yeah
  115. [2017-03-17 17:13:29] <Superchao> use 10 of the minutes for each of the two intermissions
  116. [2017-03-17 17:13:35] <Superchao> and the last 5 minutes just end earlier
  117. [2017-03-17 17:13:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it might be 25 minutes but we don't know yet
  118. [2017-03-17 17:13:53] <Meta_Knight> 10allowing longer intermissions will allow people to catch up who may be behind reading presentaitons
  119. [2017-03-17 17:14:03] <Lord_Bowser> yeah it would lead to less rushing and more catch up time
  120. [2017-03-17 17:14:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so what we can decide is to prioritize intermissions and leave the remainder for the end
  121. [2017-03-17 17:14:09] <Superchao> yeah
  122. [2017-03-17 17:14:11] <Lord_Bowser> yeah
  123. [2017-03-17 17:14:16] <Freakworld> per
  124. [2017-03-17 17:14:24] <turb> thats fair yeah
  125. [2017-03-17 17:14:28] <Meta_Knight> 10i agree
  126. [2017-03-17 17:14:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Should we do that? (Y/N/A)
  127. [2017-03-17 17:14:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4That being
  128. [2017-03-17 17:14:38] <shoutmon> 7y
  129. [2017-03-17 17:14:42] <DragonFreak> 6y
  130. [2017-03-17 17:14:43] <Lord_Bowser> y
  131. [2017-03-17 17:14:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 20:13 Anton{Politoed} so what we can decide is to prioritize intermissions and leave the remainder for the end
  132. [2017-03-17 17:14:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Y
  133. [2017-03-17 17:14:45] <turb> y
  134. [2017-03-17 17:14:47] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  135. [2017-03-17 17:15:02] <Nyrie> y
  136. [2017-03-17 17:15:06] <Superchao> y
  137. [2017-03-17 17:15:08] <Meta_Knight> 10but yeah i remember last year and the year before i heard people complaining about them not being able to read fast enough
  138. [2017-03-17 17:15:09] <Freakworld> y
  139. [2017-03-17 17:15:20] <turb> i definitely prefer longer intermissions/breaks myself lolo
  140. [2017-03-17 17:15:20] <Meta_Knight> 10so the extra intermission time could let them catch up
  141. [2017-03-17 17:15:22] <Freakworld> 7-0-0
  142. [2017-03-17 17:15:23] <Lakituthequick> y
  143. [2017-03-17 17:15:33] <turb> i went into that in my post, but yeah i wont clog up the voting time too much talking about it
  144. [2017-03-17 17:15:34] <Freakworld> 10-0-0
  145. [2017-03-17 17:16:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the final thing I had in my post at least would be deciding on who to appoint as the Community Awards host, with User and Shroom both effectively dissolved
  146. [2017-03-17 17:16:23] <shoutmon> 7i cant believe freakworld is the new meowth
  147. [2017-03-17 17:16:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4respectively that was me and MK
  148. [2017-03-17 17:16:31] <Freakworld> somebody has to do it
  149. [2017-03-17 17:16:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this appointment is something turb and I make without really asking for a vote but
  150. [2017-03-17 17:16:38] <Superchao> i'd support MK doing it
  151. [2017-03-17 17:16:47] <Superchao> he's integral to two-thirds of the awards in question
  152. [2017-03-17 17:16:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I just want to make sure everyone's happy with it
  153. [2017-03-17 17:16:53] <Superchao> might as well give him the last third while we're at it, right
  154. [2017-03-17 17:17:06] <Meta_Knight> 10i should be able to do it
  155. [2017-03-17 17:17:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah, my idea was Meta Knight this year
  156. [2017-03-17 17:17:11] <Lord_Bowser> the thing is though
  157. [2017-03-17 17:17:12] <Freakworld> i say let anton and turb decide it
  158. [2017-03-17 17:17:13] <turb> i was one of the people making the appointment so clearly i oppose it
  159. [2017-03-17 17:17:15] <turb> jk jk
  160. [2017-03-17 17:17:15] <Lord_Bowser> will this be a standard
  161. [2017-03-17 17:17:17] <Lakituthequick> am okay with it if mk is
  162. [2017-03-17 17:17:18] <Freakworld> id be fine with k though
  163. [2017-03-17 17:17:21] <turb> supporting
  164. [2017-03-17 17:17:26] <Lord_Bowser> shroom director being community awards host
  165. [2017-03-17 17:17:28] <Freakworld> mk
  166. [2017-03-17 17:17:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and in future years to prioritize Shroom Directors and Staff
  167. [2017-03-17 17:17:37] <Lord_Bowser> oh okay
  168. [2017-03-17 17:17:40] <meowth> 12hi did i miss things
  169. [2017-03-17 17:17:41] <turb> if mk feels he needs any help with the position i'll help him out with it
  170. [2017-03-17 17:17:43] <Superchao> hi
  171. [2017-03-17 17:17:46] <Superchao> a few
  172. [2017-03-17 17:17:53] <Superchao> we decided to finalize some merger details
  173. [2017-03-17 17:17:56] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah i already asked turb for advice before and he was helpful
  174. [2017-03-17 17:18:07] <Meta_Knight> 10so despite me never having hosted a ceremony before i should be fine
  175. [2017-03-17 17:18:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4duties of the ceremony hosts typically entail making the bigger decisions regarding their ceremony
  176. [2017-03-17 17:18:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4to present later to the whole AC
  177. [2017-03-17 17:18:30] <Freakworld> for us to say no
  178. [2017-03-17 17:18:34] <Superchao> i believe tallying's still part of that, too
  179. [2017-03-17 17:18:42] <Superchao> unless you guys changed it since then
  180. [2017-03-17 17:18:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so this would mean the decisions regarding the awards cut/retained, and other changes to the actual polls would be done by Meta Knight
  181. [2017-03-17 17:18:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and confirmed by a vote in here
  182. [2017-03-17 17:18:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah tallying
  183. [2017-03-17 17:19:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4in the past there's sub-committees for this
  184. [2017-03-17 17:19:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so basically
  185. [2017-03-17 17:19:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4shroom staff historically would handle this in special meetings
  186. [2017-03-17 17:19:36] <Superchao> question: does that include the initial decision of what user awards to cut and which to retain?
  187. [2017-03-17 17:19:40] <Superchao> or will we be confirming that today?
  188. [2017-03-17 17:19:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it would include that, yeah
  189. [2017-03-17 17:19:51] <Superchao> ok
  190. [2017-03-17 17:19:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I believe on the forum there's a good template to work with
  191. [2017-03-17 17:20:10] <Freakworld> #saveu7
  192. [2017-03-17 17:20:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4for the most part in https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38354.0 there's not much variation
  193. [2017-03-17 17:20:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with just some minor debate on U4
  194. [2017-03-17 17:20:44] <shoutmon> 7which one even is u7
  195. [2017-03-17 17:20:44] <Lord_Bowser> to be completely honest i'm not sure if shroom staff should be able to vote on cutting user awards mostly cause it's not exactly their jurisdiction
  196. [2017-03-17 17:20:56] <Freakworld> favorite community lets player
  197. [2017-03-17 17:21:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it is their jurisdiction now
  198. [2017-03-17 17:21:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the ceremonies have merged
  199. [2017-03-17 17:21:13] <Freakworld> the one i supported and presented
  200. [2017-03-17 17:21:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's no longer a question
  201. [2017-03-17 17:21:16] <turb> i mean to be fair
  202. [2017-03-17 17:21:23] <turb> shroom staff are also in charge of a community aspect
  203. [2017-03-17 17:21:33] <Freakworld> (i dont actually want it to stay)
  204. [2017-03-17 17:21:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and keep in mind that decisions they make aren't final
  205. [2017-03-17 17:21:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we still have to vote on them in the AC
  206. [2017-03-17 17:21:52] <Meta_Knight> 10also im able to oversee everything
  207. [2017-03-17 17:21:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4(((as well as there being a ton of overlap between the actual people staffing each so lol))))
  208. [2017-03-17 17:21:59] <turb> and most of them have at least a basic knowledge of what the awards are about
  209. [2017-03-17 17:22:01] <turb> and yeah that
  210. [2017-03-17 17:22:09] <turb> overlap/system of checks and balances
  211. [2017-03-17 17:22:11] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah anton is a staff member too lol
  212. [2017-03-17 17:22:27] <Lord_Bowser> well alright then
  213. [2017-03-17 17:22:28] <Superchao> you cannot escape his hypnotic gaze
  214. [2017-03-17 17:22:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4@u@
  215. [2017-03-17 17:22:50] <Nyrie> owo
  216. [2017-03-17 17:22:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other general concerns regarding merger details?
  217. [2017-03-17 17:23:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4a general preference towards which awards to keep and get rid of is already written in the merger thread
  218. [2017-03-17 17:23:28] <Superchao> i got nothing
  219. [2017-03-17 17:23:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and I see no reason why the shroom staff would diverge from that dramatically
  220. [2017-03-17 17:23:56] <Freakworld> 1% divergence
  221. [2017-03-17 17:24:01] <turb> nothing i can think of that's also relevant to this meeting and not shroom staff ones lol
  222. [2017-03-17 17:24:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok !
  223. [2017-03-17 17:24:16] <turb> also yeah i'd like to reassure everyone the ac always gets final say on everything related to awards
  224. [2017-03-17 17:24:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next up would be token talk
  225. [2017-03-17 17:24:33] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah if i have any questions about what im supposed to do or whatever i'll just ask anton and/or turb after the meeting
  226. [2017-03-17 17:24:40] <Freakworld> still per the the /10 cut
  227. [2017-03-17 17:24:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4edo and I have talked about this quite a bit outside of meetings and the forum and we're a bit at ends on what to do
  228. [2017-03-17 17:24:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the disagreement mostly is based on me not fully understanding what will be done and when
  229. [2017-03-17 17:25:17] -->| ARFU (Mibbit@vb96799ia8.direct-adsl.nl) has joined #mwikiawards
  230. [2017-03-17 17:25:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so most of my criticisms might not actually be valid simply because I'm not working with a full deck
  231. [2017-03-17 17:25:18] <Freakworld> as soon as possible imo
  232. [2017-03-17 17:25:19] <Meta_Knight> 10i understand that major concern is what this will do to prize rates right
  233. [2017-03-17 17:25:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yes
  234. [2017-03-17 17:25:26] <ARFU> im here
  235. [2017-03-17 17:25:31] <Freakworld> hes here
  236. [2017-03-17 17:25:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what I want to figure out is what will be handled when
  237. [2017-03-17 17:25:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I asked edo to bring this up during the meeting if it became a topic but he's afk or something right now so we won't be making any decisions about it
  238. [2017-03-17 17:26:08] <Meta_Knight> 10unfortunately i dont know a thing about how to calculate prize rates
  239. [2017-03-17 17:26:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but what I'll do just for the next few minutes is open up for any concerns and questions regarding what we're doing
  240. [2017-03-17 17:26:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4refer to: https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38355.0
  241. [2017-03-17 17:26:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4my top thing I want to know is a timeline of what decision will be made when
  242. [2017-03-17 17:26:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i.e.
  243. [2017-03-17 17:26:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4by when should we decide /10 or something
  244. [2017-03-17 17:26:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4by when should we determine prize rates
  245. [2017-03-17 17:26:55] <Freakworld> [01:25] Freakworld as soon as possible imo
  246. [2017-03-17 17:26:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4by when should we determine how much tournaments are allowed to give out
  247. [2017-03-17 17:27:01] <Freakworld> to the first one
  248. [2017-03-17 17:27:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4asap isn't a date
  249. [2017-03-17 17:27:10] <turb> i mean we also need to know when we're rolling this out sequentially is the thing
  250. [2017-03-17 17:27:17] <Freakworld> within the next meeting
  251. [2017-03-17 17:27:21] <turb> like decide /10 one week, then prize rates, then etc
  252. [2017-03-17 17:27:24] <ARFU> i think we should give the /10 thing a week or so to make sure everyone gets their thoughts in
  253. [2017-03-17 17:27:25] <Freakworld> is my definition of adap
  254. [2017-03-17 17:27:26] <turb> order and structure
  255. [2017-03-17 17:27:32] <Freakworld> *asap
  256. [2017-03-17 17:27:33] <turb> "asap" is a given
  257. [2017-03-17 17:27:59] <Meta_Knight> 10at least one step of the process should be done at most the start of april
  258. [2017-03-17 17:28:00] <Freakworld> so yeah a week for that
  259. [2017-03-17 17:28:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4my concern was that it's impossible to fully see how /10 will affect things without the context of its effect on prize rates and token distribution
  260. [2017-03-17 17:28:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but edo assured me that it wasn't necessary
  261. [2017-03-17 17:28:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I did not understand how
  262. [2017-03-17 17:28:26] <Freakworld> and then get ready to communicate the change also as fast as possible before we get into calamities
  263. [2017-03-17 17:28:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which is why I've decided to defer this topic to him
  264. [2017-03-17 17:28:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and just OK big things
  265. [2017-03-17 17:28:35] <Freakworld> with tournaments starting up or w/e
  266. [2017-03-17 17:28:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4afaik turb agrees with that
  267. [2017-03-17 17:28:40] <turb> yeah
  268. [2017-03-17 17:28:53] <Lord_Bowser> it would be best to wait for edo then
  269. [2017-03-17 17:28:59] <Freakworld> y
  270. [2017-03-17 17:29:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so yeah if there's any huge concerns just like
  271. [2017-03-17 17:29:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4lob them here right now or into that thread
  272. [2017-03-17 17:29:14] <turb> anton do you want to do mario awards in the meantime
  273. [2017-03-17 17:29:21] <turb> like, after people get in some more thoughts about this
  274. [2017-03-17 17:29:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and I'll communicate with edo later on what we'll do and continue to have that topic active
  275. [2017-03-17 17:29:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah
  276. [2017-03-17 17:29:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I had one kinda small question for Lakituthequick though since he's a person who knows things
  277. [2017-03-17 17:29:51] <Lakituthequick> yeah?
  278. [2017-03-17 17:30:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ltq do you know a way to copy the values of a column in google sheets from one document to another
  279. [2017-03-17 17:30:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4like
  280. [2017-03-17 17:30:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DB4IWiei2zdpO3sc--E0IgRFZscv6WvwYUKKe6Xus6M/edit#gid=0
  281. [2017-03-17 17:30:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4how you got that red column over from the tokens document
  282. [2017-03-17 17:30:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I can't find an adequate paste option that gets the values from after the equation has been solved
  283. [2017-03-17 17:30:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it insists on only posting the value from before, which seems useless
  284. [2017-03-17 17:30:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and I don't want to manually type them out
  285. [2017-03-17 17:30:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but if I have to I guess I will
  286. [2017-03-17 17:30:51] <Freakworld> if it works like in excel you should just be able to copy the format
  287. [2017-03-17 17:30:53] <Lakituthequick> Well I literally duplicated the tokens 2016 sheet and deleted everything else but you shoul be able to ctrl c ctrl v it
  288. [2017-03-17 17:30:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it doesn't work like excel
  289. [2017-03-17 17:31:08] <Freakworld> rip then
  290. [2017-03-17 17:31:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and I've tried c/v
  291. [2017-03-17 17:31:14] <Freakworld> i never use google spreadsheets
  292. [2017-03-17 17:31:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it pastes the formulas
  293. [2017-03-17 17:31:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which end up at 0 or blank because there's nothing for it to solve in the new document
  294. [2017-03-17 17:31:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and right-click paste options don't provide anything that would be what I need
  295. [2017-03-17 17:31:47] <Freakworld> does it not transfer the values as well
  296. [2017-03-17 17:31:49] <Freakworld> jesus
  297. [2017-03-17 17:32:02] <Freakworld> why dont we use excel online
  298. [2017-03-17 17:32:03] <Lakituthequick> i did need to paste onyl values and succeded at that so
  299. [2017-03-17 17:32:19] <Lakituthequick> (google spreadsheets is supirior to excel btw)
  300. [2017-03-17 17:32:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4idk why it won't let me but ____
  301. [2017-03-17 17:32:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll figure it out later
  302. [2017-03-17 17:32:30] <Freakworld> [01:32] Lakituthequick (google spreadsheets is supirior to excel btw)
  303. [2017-03-17 17:32:37] <Freakworld> can we not have this discussion
  304. [2017-03-17 17:32:42] <Lakituthequick> (ok)
  305. [2017-03-17 17:32:45] <Freakworld> i talked about this on work the other day
  306. [2017-03-17 17:32:48] <Freakworld> thanks
  307. [2017-03-17 17:32:52] <Freakworld> *at
  308. [2017-03-17 17:32:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4in the meantime, we'll continue mario awards
  309. [2017-03-17 17:33:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit
  310. [2017-03-17 17:33:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4here's some relevant pages
  311. [2017-03-17 17:33:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ZwYpnz5khaQGPM7UFzDVblQ1qgzqSUoeatzKoo_5jY/edit#gid=1720258749
  312. [2017-03-17 17:33:36] <Lakituthequick> you should be able to copy a row and in the right click menu, "Paste special" and "Only values"
  313. [2017-03-17 17:33:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yL47QoJ30K51pFmRyvdEpZ0g1ulv5t6gLBQqHE_LBws/edit#heading=h.k5s46cp7zk9n
  314. [2017-03-17 17:33:48] <Lakituthequick> (or column in this case)
  315. [2017-03-17 17:34:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I tried literally everything in that menu
  316. [2017-03-17 17:34:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Category:2016_games
  317. [2017-03-17 17:34:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Category:2017_games
  318. [2017-03-17 17:34:21] <Freakworld> its hard to not mention how arbitrary that is
  319. [2017-03-17 17:34:21] <Lakituthequick> I think it doesn't work across documents
  320. [2017-03-17 17:34:28] <Lakituthequick> but it does in the same
  321. [2017-03-17 17:34:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll figure something out
  322. [2017-03-17 17:35:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll probably just make the 2016 one a separate sheet and just use it for the data
  323. [2017-03-17 17:35:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so, where we left off was:
  324. [2017-03-17 17:35:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M8 Favorite Art Style (Retro Style sprites, Yoshi’s Island style, Donkey Kong Country style, Main series 3D style, Paper Mario style, Mario & Luigi style, Yoshi’s Story style, Yoshi’s Woolly World style, Wario Land: Shake It! style, Super Mario RPG style, Super Mario Strikers style)
  325. [2017-03-17 17:35:40] <DragonFreak> 6i dont think there's any new ones
  326. [2017-03-17 17:35:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 10) Super Mario RPG style — 71 — 2.73% 11) Yoshi’s Story style — 33 — 1.27% 12) O. Game & Wario/ Rhythm Heaven style — 1 — 0.04% 12) O. SNES-era Artwork style — 1 — 0.04%
  327. [2017-03-17 17:35:42] <Freakworld> why is series not capitalized again
  328. [2017-03-17 17:35:46] <Freakworld> convention?
  329. [2017-03-17 17:35:54] <Freakworld> or did we have a good reason for it
  330. [2017-03-17 17:35:56] <Freakworld> idr
  331. [2017-03-17 17:36:02] <Freakworld> in main series
  332. [2017-03-17 17:36:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because it's not part of a game name
  333. [2017-03-17 17:36:22] <Freakworld> okay so convention
  334. [2017-03-17 17:36:23] <turb> oh
  335. [2017-03-17 17:36:24] <Freakworld> ok
  336. [2017-03-17 17:36:31] <Nyrie> what about Retro Style
  337. [2017-03-17 17:36:32] <turb> we have Retro Style capitalized
  338. [2017-03-17 17:36:33] <turb> yeah
  339. [2017-03-17 17:36:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i'll fix that
  340. [2017-03-17 17:36:47] <Nyrie> sounds good
  341. [2017-03-17 17:36:48] <Freakworld> good
  342. [2017-03-17 17:37:12] <Lord_Bowser> besides retro style i don't think anything needs changing
  343. [2017-03-17 17:37:18] <Nyrie> ^
  344. [2017-03-17 17:37:19] <meowth> 12besides Capital Letters i don't think anything really needs to be changed here
  345. [2017-03-17 17:37:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4did any of the new games introduce any new style
  346. [2017-03-17 17:37:23] <Freakworld> so none of the writeins are useful
  347. [2017-03-17 17:37:27] <Nyrie> no
  348. [2017-03-17 17:37:28] <Lord_Bowser> nope
  349. [2017-03-17 17:37:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I think the only thing I've seen is that they've created more detailed models but __
  350. [2017-03-17 17:37:36] <ARFU> i think this one's fine
  351. [2017-03-17 17:37:40] <Freakworld> i wouldnt reove anything in an 11 options awards
  352. [2017-03-17 17:37:43] <Freakworld> *award
  353. [2017-03-17 17:37:46] <Freakworld> lets move on
  354. [2017-03-17 17:38:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M8 is good then
  355. [2017-03-17 17:38:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4up next
  356. [2017-03-17 17:38:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M9 Favorite DLC (The Legend of Zelda × Mario Kart 8, Animal Crossing × Mario Kart 8, Mercedes-Benz × Mario Kart 8, New Super Luigi U, New Super Mario Bros. 2 Coin Rush packs, Mario Golf: World Tour Season Pass, Peach's Castle stage (SSB4), Super Mario Maker stage (SSB4))
  357. [2017-03-17 17:38:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4as of last year that's all-inclusive
  358. [2017-03-17 17:38:26] <Freakworld> add the uh
  359. [2017-03-17 17:38:39] <Freakworld> in app purchases in mario run
  360. [2017-03-17 17:38:43] <Freakworld> or well
  361. [2017-03-17 17:38:45] <Freakworld> the one there is
  362. [2017-03-17 17:38:52] <Lakituthequick> what do those add?
  363. [2017-03-17 17:38:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are those dlc
  364. [2017-03-17 17:38:56] <Freakworld> 5 worlds
  365. [2017-03-17 17:38:58] <Lord_Bowser> wasn't there a mario pack for minecraft wii u
  366. [2017-03-17 17:39:04] <Lord_Bowser> or something like thay
  367. [2017-03-17 17:39:06] <Lord_Bowser> that*
  368. [2017-03-17 17:39:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4good idea lb
  369. [2017-03-17 17:39:11] <Meta_Knight> 10that comes with it
  370. [2017-03-17 17:39:13] <Lakituthequick> 5 already in the code worlds or
  371. [2017-03-17 17:39:18] <Freakworld> yes
  372. [2017-03-17 17:39:20] <Freakworld> still dlc
  373. [2017-03-17 17:39:30] <Lakituthequick> hm
  374. [2017-03-17 17:39:31] <ARFU> i forgot mario run existed lmao
  375. [2017-03-17 17:39:33] <Meta_Knight> 10when i got minecraft for wii u the mario stuff was already on itt
  376. [2017-03-17 17:39:42] <Freakworld> capcom dlc is always on dsic already as well
  377. [2017-03-17 17:39:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this is a definition unique to it being a mobile game
  378. [2017-03-17 17:39:45] <Freakworld> see resident evil 6
  379. [2017-03-17 17:39:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I believe
  380. [2017-03-17 17:39:56] <Lord_Bowser> was the game itself released before the pack though mk
  381. [2017-03-17 17:39:58] <Freakworld> its still dlc
  382. [2017-03-17 17:39:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4mobile games almost always have in-app purchases
  383. [2017-03-17 17:40:03] <turb> oh the minecraf tthing might be applicable
  384. [2017-03-17 17:40:04] <ARFU> do we consider in app purchases dlc?
  385. [2017-03-17 17:40:06] <Meta_Knight> 10i didnt thinnk about that
  386. [2017-03-17 17:40:06] <Lord_Bowser> just the base game i mean
  387. [2017-03-17 17:40:12] <turb> idk abou t the mario run thing
  388. [2017-03-17 17:40:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4otherwise they don't generate income other than selling your location
  389. [2017-03-17 17:40:16] <Lord_Bowser> let me double check
  390. [2017-03-17 17:40:17] <Freakworld> Anton{Politoed}: games nowadays almost always have dlc
  391. [2017-03-17 17:40:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we have no precedent for mobile games
  392. [2017-03-17 17:40:24] <turb> im pretty sure that minecraft wii u came out before the mario pack
  393. [2017-03-17 17:40:28] <Freakworld> its the same concept in my book
  394. [2017-03-17 17:40:33] <Freakworld> unless any official source objects
  395. [2017-03-17 17:40:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so we can't just accept it without a decision
  396. [2017-03-17 17:40:55] <Meta_Knight> 10how many nominees does this have
  397. [2017-03-17 17:41:06] <ARFU> i dont really think it fits into the list of DLC's we already have
  398. [2017-03-17 17:41:09] <Lakituthequick> 8
  399. [2017-03-17 17:41:21] <Meta_Knight> 10okay
  400. [2017-03-17 17:41:25] <Lord_Bowser> 5:40 PM <turb> im pretty sure that minecraft wii u came out before the mario pack
  401. [2017-03-17 17:41:29] <Lord_Bowser> can confirm it did
  402. [2017-03-17 17:41:37] <Meta_Knight> 10we could add mario run and minecraft without having to cut anything
  403. [2017-03-17 17:41:38] <Lakituthequick> but did it come as an update
  404. [2017-03-17 17:41:41] <Lord_Bowser> mario pack was released a few months after
  405. [2017-03-17 17:41:42] <Meta_Knight> 10it wouldnt hurt to add them
  406. [2017-03-17 17:41:47] <Lakituthequick> or did you need to seperately download it
  407. [2017-03-17 17:41:53] <ARFU> what do you guys think
  408. [2017-03-17 17:41:58] <ARFU> should we add them?
  409. [2017-03-17 17:42:00] <Lord_Bowser> source: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Wii_U_Edition
  410. [2017-03-17 17:42:04] <Freakworld> mario pack was just an update wasnt it
  411. [2017-03-17 17:42:12] <Lord_Bowser> no this says it was dlc
  412. [2017-03-17 17:42:15] <Freakworld> ok
  413. [2017-03-17 17:42:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4google shows most sources reporting "nintendo has no intentions for super mario run dlc"
  414. [2017-03-17 17:42:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but one that says "free toad dlc"
  415. [2017-03-17 17:42:39] <Freakworld> *******no intentions for additional dlc
  416. [2017-03-17 17:42:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4time to find out if this is just shitty writing or actually something
  417. [2017-03-17 17:42:46] <Freakworld> no toad is uh
  418. [2017-03-17 17:42:48] <Freakworld> unlockable
  419. [2017-03-17 17:42:50] <Freakworld> for free
  420. [2017-03-17 17:42:53] <Freakworld> in a sense
  421. [2017-03-17 17:42:57] <Freakworld> its hard to explain
  422. [2017-03-17 17:43:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it gives no details so shitty writing yeah
  423. [2017-03-17 17:43:04] <Freakworld> has to do with my nintendo rewards
  424. [2017-03-17 17:43:10] <Freakworld> i have the game and the in app purchase so
  425. [2017-03-17 17:43:12] <meowth> 12i don't really know much about minecraft or smr so i'll let more knowledgeable handle this one
  426. [2017-03-17 17:43:26] <Lord_Bowser> minecraft should be added imo
  427. [2017-03-17 17:43:29] <shoutmon> 7i dont think mario run is dlc
  428. [2017-03-17 17:43:32] <ARFU> 'Speaking with the Wall Street Journal, a Nintendo spokesperson said the company has no plans to launch additional content for Super Mario Run. That includes free and paid DLC, both of which seemed like possibilities given that Nintendo has, like the rest of the industry, begun supporting its console and portable games with such content.'
  429. [2017-03-17 17:43:41] <Lord_Bowser> as for smr i don't think it really qualifies
  430. [2017-03-17 17:43:42] <ARFU> that seems like a no in terms of dlc
  431. [2017-03-17 17:43:44] <shoutmon> 7the part you pay for is the main content of the game
  432. [2017-03-17 17:43:50] <Lord_Bowser> ^
  433. [2017-03-17 17:43:54] <shoutmon> 7the rest is a relatively short free demo
  434. [2017-03-17 17:43:59] <Nyrie> yeah
  435. [2017-03-17 17:44:02] <meowth> 12though if were thinking about minecraft then does that one yoshi level i'm fairly sure exists for sonic lost world apply or is that an update
  436. [2017-03-17 17:44:02] <Freakworld> the question is how is the additional content net by paying not addition content
  437. [2017-03-17 17:44:04] <Freakworld> i dont see it
  438. [2017-03-17 17:44:18] <Freakworld> the difference shouldnt be about how much content there is
  439. [2017-03-17 17:44:32] <Freakworld> but if the content is actually accessaible from the start
  440. [2017-03-17 17:44:36] <Freakworld> idk thats my stance
  441. [2017-03-17 17:44:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other nominees on the award that are similar to what Super Mario Run does
  442. [2017-03-17 17:44:42] <Freakworld> *accessible
  443. [2017-03-17 17:44:48] <Freakworld> no
  444. [2017-03-17 17:44:51] <Lord_Bowser> not really
  445. [2017-03-17 17:45:25] <turb> no
  446. [2017-03-17 17:45:29] <turb> not even nslu i dont think
  447. [2017-03-17 17:45:35] <ARFU> i dont believe so, anton
  448. [2017-03-17 17:45:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this is an awkward decision; I personally side with 22's definition for it
  449. [2017-03-17 17:45:47] <Freakworld> nslu doesnt really add ore content than what was already there
  450. [2017-03-17 17:45:49] <DragonFreak> 6my opinion, per 22 on smr but as for wii u it's kind of a toss up with minecraft for me
  451. [2017-03-17 17:45:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but out of fairness let's put it to a vote
  452. [2017-03-17 17:45:58] <Freakworld> *more
  453. [2017-03-17 17:46:14] <Freakworld> its just smr is clearly dlc for me
  454. [2017-03-17 17:46:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Does Super Mario Run's in-app purchases count as DLC to subsequently be added to M8? (Y/N/A)
  455. [2017-03-17 17:46:41] <Nyrie> \n
  456. [2017-03-17 17:46:43] <DragonFreak> 6n
  457. [2017-03-17 17:46:44] <turb> n
  458. [2017-03-17 17:46:45] <ARFU> N
  459. [2017-03-17 17:46:46] <Freakworld> y
  460. [2017-03-17 17:46:49] <Meta_Knight> 10n
  461. [2017-03-17 17:46:50] <Lakituthequick> n
  462. [2017-03-17 17:46:54] <Superchao> a
  463. [2017-03-17 17:47:00] <Lord_Bowser> n
  464. [2017-03-17 17:47:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4n
  465. [2017-03-17 17:47:05] <Meta_Knight> 10seems more like microtransactions
  466. [2017-03-17 17:47:15] <shoutmon> 7n
  467. [2017-03-17 17:47:19] <meowth> 12a
  468. [2017-03-17 17:47:23] <Freakworld> i mean fyi it does download something after you do the purchase
  469. [2017-03-17 17:47:27] <Lord_Bowser> 1-9-2
  470. [2017-03-17 17:47:30] <Freakworld> but i assume its just unlocking stuff
  471. [2017-03-17 17:47:33] <Lakituthequick> what does it download then
  472. [2017-03-17 17:47:35] <meowth> 121-8-2
  473. [2017-03-17 17:47:37] <Freakworld> like
  474. [2017-03-17 17:47:39] <Lord_Bowser> oh oop
  475. [2017-03-17 17:47:39] <Freakworld> 1 mb
  476. [2017-03-17 17:47:47] -->| Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@2605:e000:2e4c:okjj:zvq:yotm:giqh:rgzq) has joined #mwikiawards
  477. [2017-03-17 17:48:06] <Lakituthequick> so it downloads a key to the content and not the content itself
  478. [2017-03-17 17:48:10] <Freakworld> i mean fwiw the dlc in nsmb2 wasnt really bigger than that
  479. [2017-03-17 17:48:12] <Freakworld> yes
  480. [2017-03-17 17:48:16] <Freakworld> like i said
  481. [2017-03-17 17:48:24] <Freakworld> thats what capcom for example does as well
  482. [2017-03-17 17:48:31] <Freakworld> and theres no dbate whether thats dlc or not
  483. [2017-03-17 17:48:43] <Freakworld> so thats why im pretty set on the issue
  484. [2017-03-17 17:48:50] <Gamefreak75> im here now
  485. [2017-03-17 17:48:50] <Lakituthequick> its clear what nintendos intend is with run though
  486. [2017-03-17 17:49:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Super Mario Run's stuff will not be added to M9
  487. [2017-03-17 17:49:29] <ARFU> it just doesnt seem like dlc with run
  488. [2017-03-17 17:49:31] <Freakworld> i mean nobody here agrees with me so it doesnt matter
  489. [2017-03-17 17:49:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4further discussion can be made on the forum if the intention is to redo the vote later on, which has been done before
  490. [2017-03-17 17:49:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but as for now let's move on
  491. [2017-03-17 17:49:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what's this about the minecraft stuff
  492. [2017-03-17 17:49:57] <Lord_Bowser> http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Wii_U_Edition
  493. [2017-03-17 17:50:06] <Lord_Bowser> this says the mario pack was indeed dlc
  494. [2017-03-17 17:50:08] <Freakworld> i say its dlc if it isnt part of a mandatory update of the game
  495. [2017-03-17 17:50:17] <Lord_Bowser> the base game was on the eshop a few months prior
  496. [2017-03-17 17:50:32] <Lord_Bowser> but was rereleased when the pack came out
  497. [2017-03-17 17:50:41] <Lord_Bowser> i still say it qualifies as dlc though
  498. [2017-03-17 17:50:55] <Lakituthequick> so is it possible to /not/ install the mario pack
  499. [2017-03-17 17:50:58] <Lord_Bowser> also the rerelease was more expensive
  500. [2017-03-17 17:51:01] <Freakworld> This edition is bundled with seven add-on packs, and sixteen additional packs are also available as downloadable content
  501. [2017-03-17 17:51:05] <Freakworld> per ltq
  502. [2017-03-17 17:51:19] <Freakworld> it depends on whether its an optional thing or not
  503. [2017-03-17 17:51:27] <Lord_Bowser> if you had bought it before the rerelase then it should be
  504. [2017-03-17 17:51:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Minecraft:_Wii_U_Edition
  505. [2017-03-17 17:51:33] <Lakituthequick> if its forced like 200cc in mk8
  506. [2017-03-17 17:51:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"The Super Mario Mash-Up Pack was released as downloadable content on May 17, 2016, though it comes bundled with the physical edition. It was developed in conjunction with Nintendo.[3] "
  507. [2017-03-17 17:51:35] <Lakituthequick> its not dlc
  508. [2017-03-17 17:51:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the wiki defines it as DLC so I'm deferring to that
  509. [2017-03-17 17:51:55] <Freakworld> ok
  510. [2017-03-17 17:52:04] <Lord_Bowser> yeah it's dlc then
  511. [2017-03-17 17:52:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4[3] is http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/super-mario-mash-up-pack-for-minecraft-wii-U-edition
  512. [2017-03-17 17:52:09] <Freakworld> its definietely dlc
  513. [2017-03-17 17:52:22] <Freakworld> doesnt matter if it was bundled with the phsycial games
  514. [2017-03-17 17:52:24] <Freakworld> *game
  515. [2017-03-17 17:52:44] <Lakituthequick> "After downloading the update, players who own the Minecraft: Wii U Edition digital game, which launched last December, will have immediate access to new skins, a Super Mario-themed pre-made world and a set of Super Mario-themed music and item textures."
  516. [2017-03-17 17:53:06] <ARFU> lets add this to the list
  517. [2017-03-17 17:53:14] <Freakworld> i mean im inclined to say its dlc if the wiki says it is
  518. [2017-03-17 17:53:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Super Mario Mash-Up Pack for Minecraft: Wii U Edition" to M9? (Y/N/A)
  519. [2017-03-17 17:53:19] <Lakituthequick> this impled its an update
  520. [2017-03-17 17:53:19] <Freakworld> y
  521. [2017-03-17 17:53:20] <Lord_Bowser> y
  522. [2017-03-17 17:53:21] <ARFU> Y
  523. [2017-03-17 17:53:23] <DragonFreak> 6y
  524. [2017-03-17 17:53:23] <Lakituthequick> n
  525. [2017-03-17 17:53:25] <turb> y
  526. [2017-03-17 17:53:32] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  527. [2017-03-17 17:53:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ltq where is that quote
  528. [2017-03-17 17:53:40] <Lakituthequick> in the article ypu linked
  529. [2017-03-17 17:53:45] <Superchao> y
  530. [2017-03-17 17:53:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4nvm found it yeah
  531. [2017-03-17 17:53:51] <Lakituthequick> second paragraph
  532. [2017-03-17 17:53:53] <Nyrie> y
  533. [2017-03-17 17:53:55] <Lord_Bowser> but ltq was it required
  534. [2017-03-17 17:54:00] <turb> idk im unsure about it
  535. [2017-03-17 17:54:04] <Lord_Bowser> or could you bypass it
  536. [2017-03-17 17:54:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's a bundle
  537. [2017-03-17 17:54:17] <Lakituthequick> On May 17, the Super Mario Mash-Up Pack comes to Minecraft: Wii U Edition as a >>>free game update<<.
  538. [2017-03-17 17:54:18] <Freakworld> you could not download the update
  539. [2017-03-17 17:54:23] <Freakworld> but thats not the point
  540. [2017-03-17 17:54:24] <turb> so i should probably change to A but
  541. [2017-03-17 17:54:25] <shoutmon> 7n
  542. [2017-03-17 17:54:31] <turb> i guess ill change from y to a
  543. [2017-03-17 17:54:40] <Freakworld> ill leave it on y with the wiki article as a basis
  544. [2017-03-17 17:54:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so there's conflicting definitions from nintendo itself
  545. [2017-03-17 17:54:45] <shoutmon> 7i dont consider any mandatory update to be dlc
  546. [2017-03-17 17:54:50] <turb> like it would "fit" on the award but as is i'm not sure its actually "dlc" if its mandatory
  547. [2017-03-17 17:54:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4for an already tough-to-define award
  548. [2017-03-17 17:54:53] <Lord_Bowser> the thing is
  549. [2017-03-17 17:54:54] <turb> was mercedes benz mandatory
  550. [2017-03-17 17:54:56] <Lord_Bowser> was it mandatory
  551. [2017-03-17 17:55:02] <Lakituthequick> it wasnt
  552. [2017-03-17 17:55:03] <Freakworld> no turb
  553. [2017-03-17 17:55:06] <turb> ok
  554. [2017-03-17 17:55:07] <DragonFreak> 6yeah idk what even is considered to be dlc so
  555. [2017-03-17 17:55:11] <Lord_Bowser> so it's dlc then
  556. [2017-03-17 17:55:12] <turb> i wasnt sure if it came with 200c or not
  557. [2017-03-17 17:55:13] <DragonFreak> 6change y to a
  558. [2017-03-17 17:55:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's only mandatory if you buy the one with the bundle
  559. [2017-03-17 17:55:26] <Freakworld> dlc are optional things in games you can download but you dont have to
  560. [2017-03-17 17:55:26] <Lord_Bowser> if it's not mandatory it's dlc imo
  561. [2017-03-17 17:55:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll vote y
  562. [2017-03-17 17:55:39] <Freakworld> like the 5 extra worlds in super mario run for example
  563. [2017-03-17 17:55:41] <Freakworld> 4Head
  564. [2017-03-17 17:56:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but whatever decision is made I'll put a note on M9 that when we go back over the awards later on to give this one another thorough check
  565. [2017-03-17 17:56:11] <Freakworld> fair enough
  566. [2017-03-17 17:56:22] <Freakworld> also check if the wiki article still says its dlc
  567. [2017-03-17 17:56:28] <Freakworld> thats what i based my vote on anyways
  568. [2017-03-17 17:56:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah
  569. [2017-03-17 17:56:43] <Lord_Bowser> so for the time being will it be added or not
  570. [2017-03-17 17:56:53] <ARFU> so what's the vote count?
  571. [2017-03-17 17:57:04] <Freakworld> meowth:
  572. [2017-03-17 17:57:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4leaning y
  573. [2017-03-17 17:57:14] <DragonFreak> 6brb
  574. [2017-03-17 17:57:15] <shoutmon> 7i always thought of dlc as being the latter day version of an expansion pack
  575. [2017-03-17 17:57:28] <shoutmon> 7something you pay extra for to add additional content to a base game
  576. [2017-03-17 17:57:36] <Freakworld> expansion pack you mean as in
  577. [2017-03-17 17:57:40] <ARFU> i think if its just leaning Y we should really give it more thought
  578. [2017-03-17 17:57:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll do this
  579. [2017-03-17 17:57:46] <meowth> 12i'm sorry i was in a weird time warp
  580. [2017-03-17 17:57:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll put Super Mario Mash-Up Pack for Minecraft: Wii U Edition on the award right now
  581. [2017-03-17 17:57:47] <meowth> 12a
  582. [2017-03-17 17:57:48] <Freakworld> age of empires 2 the conquestadors or w/e
  583. [2017-03-17 17:57:53] <shoutmon> 7expansion pack as in the thing smg2 should have been
  584. [2017-03-17 17:58:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but after this meeting I will create a topic to create a set definition on DLC for this award
  585. [2017-03-17 17:58:11] <Lord_Bowser> sounds fair
  586. [2017-03-17 17:58:14] <Freakworld> smg2 was a good expansion pack though
  587. [2017-03-17 17:58:21] <Freakworld> very good
  588. [2017-03-17 17:58:21] <shoutmon> 7ill kill you
  589. [2017-03-17 17:58:30] <shoutmon> 7anyway
  590. [2017-03-17 17:58:35] <Lakituthequick> anton
  591. [2017-03-17 17:58:40] <shoutmon> 7dont forget the sonic yoshi thing
  592. [2017-03-17 17:58:57] <Lakituthequick> should Minecraft: Wii U Edition be within brackets
  593. [2017-03-17 17:59:02] <shoutmon> 7if minecraft counts, it should too
  594. [2017-03-17 17:59:11] <Lakituthequick> instead of the 'for' infix
  595. [2017-03-17 17:59:20] <Freakworld> oh
  596. [2017-03-17 17:59:23] <Freakworld> oh that
  597. [2017-03-17 17:59:29] <Freakworld> i forgot about that
  598. [2017-03-17 17:59:39] <Freakworld> yeah that was definitely optional in sonic lost world
  599. [2017-03-17 17:59:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I set the vote for Super Mario Mash-Up Pack for Minecraft: Wii U Edition and that's what people voted y on
  600. [2017-03-17 17:59:44] <ARFU> yeah, i think the sonic one counts
  601. [2017-03-17 17:59:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so that's what I did
  602. [2017-03-17 17:59:47] <Freakworld> if thats not dlc idk what is
  603. [2017-03-17 17:59:59] <DragonFreak> 6back
  604. [2017-03-17 18:00:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that was how I saw it referred to in other publications
  605. [2017-03-17 18:00:14] <Lakituthequick> well i mean
  606. [2017-03-17 18:00:28] <Lakituthequick> SSB4 is also within brackets
  607. [2017-03-17 18:00:33] <shoutmon> 7i wouldnt actually consider the sonic thing dlc but if minecraft is, sonic is
  608. [2017-03-17 18:00:38] <turb> ^
  609. [2017-03-17 18:00:44] <shoutmon> 7theyre almost in the exact same situation as far as i can tell
  610. [2017-03-17 18:00:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4how about
  611. [2017-03-17 18:01:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we not decide anything
  612. [2017-03-17 18:01:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and I just make a topic for this
  613. [2017-03-17 18:01:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm doing that
  614. [2017-03-17 18:01:17] <Lord_Bowser> i think that would be better
  615. [2017-03-17 18:01:22] <Freakworld> no the sonic one definitely wasnt part of a regular update
  616. [2017-03-17 18:01:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so we don't spend the entire meeting doing what can be done on the forum
  617. [2017-03-17 18:01:25] -->| Mariofan169 (Mibbit@58.sub-27-590-088.myvzw.com) has joined #mwikiawards
  618. [2017-03-17 18:01:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4moving on
  619. [2017-03-17 18:01:32] <Freakworld> salut le Mariofan169
  620. [2017-03-17 18:01:36] <Mariofan169> did somebody say churros
  621. [2017-03-17 18:01:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M10 Favorite Partner Developer (AlphaDream, Intelligent Systems, HAL Laboratory, Hudson Soft, Camelot Software Planning, Next Level Games, Bandai Namco Entertainment, Good-Feel, Square Enix, Sega, Retro Studios, Rare Ltd.)
  622. [2017-03-17 18:01:57] <Meta_Knight> 10unless someone new developed sports superstars leave this one alone
  623. [2017-03-17 18:02:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 11) Good-Feel — 62 — 2.50% 12) Camelot Software Planning — 49 — 1.98% 13) O. GAME FREAK — 2 — 0.08% 14) O. Capcom — 1 — 0.04% 14) O. Paon — 1 — 0.04%
  624. [2017-03-17 18:02:04] <Nyrie> no change
  625. [2017-03-17 18:02:05] <Mariofan169> i's say keep all of it
  626. [2017-03-17 18:02:18] <Freakworld> why does Square Enix not have a - (i feel like we looked this up last year and they actually have no - didnt we)
  627. [2017-03-17 18:02:22] <Freakworld> brb checking again
  628. [2017-03-17 18:02:28] <Superchao> ahhh, paon
  629. [2017-03-17 18:02:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Developer(s) Bandai Namco Studios[1] Camelot Software Planning
  630. [2017-03-17 18:02:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's the sports whatever
  631. [2017-03-17 18:02:35] <Superchao> i only remember them for being a nominee that got no votes
  632. [2017-03-17 18:03:00] <turb> i like how some guy votes them after we remove them
  633. [2017-03-17 18:03:00] <Freakworld> they dont
  634. [2017-03-17 18:03:01] <Freakworld> ok
  635. [2017-03-17 18:03:01] <shoutmon> 7did gamefreak make mario games?
  636. [2017-03-17 18:03:02] <turb> surely to spite us
  637. [2017-03-17 18:03:11] <ARFU> wait
  638. [2017-03-17 18:03:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Square_Enix
  639. [2017-03-17 18:03:18] <Mariofan169> 22 no
  640. [2017-03-17 18:03:21] <Lakituthequick> Square Enix doesnt have a sash
  641. [2017-03-17 18:03:24] <Lakituthequick> *dash
  642. [2017-03-17 18:03:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Category:Video_game_developers
  643. [2017-03-17 18:03:31] <ARFU> isnt atlus partnered with nintendo now
  644. [2017-03-17 18:03:46] <DragonFreak> 6i didn't know square made hoops 3 on 3
  645. [2017-03-17 18:03:55] <meowth> 12i did
  646. [2017-03-17 18:04:01] <DragonFreak> 6seems really random
  647. [2017-03-17 18:04:05] <Mariofan169> don't forget sports mix
  648. [2017-03-17 18:04:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4even if we decide game freak counts within this
  649. [2017-03-17 18:04:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4they still only got 2 votes
  650. [2017-03-17 18:04:12] <shoutmon> 7you can tell by the way its full of final fantasy characters
  651. [2017-03-17 18:04:17] <Mariofan169> and that weird fortune street game
  652. [2017-03-17 18:04:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which I'm inclined to deny a formal nomination
  653. [2017-03-17 18:04:27] <shoutmon> 7also i wasnt saying to add gamefreak
  654. [2017-03-17 18:04:30] <Lakituthequick> "Square Enix recently made Mario Hoops 3-on-3 and Itadaki Street DS for the Nintendo DS with the latter exclusive to Japan."
  655. [2017-03-17 18:04:33] <shoutmon> 7i was just surprised they mademario games at all
  656. [2017-03-17 18:04:33] <Lakituthequick> > recently
  657. [2017-03-17 18:04:38] <Meta_Knight> 10ui would say game freak doesnt count
  658. [2017-03-17 18:04:39] <Lord_Bowser> should we add 1-UP Studio
  659. [2017-03-17 18:04:43] <shoutmon> 7apparently it was just like
  660. [2017-03-17 18:04:44] <turb> "They also made some Mario games, including Yoshi and Mario & Wario, the latter of which was only released in Japan. "
  661. [2017-03-17 18:04:45] <ARFU> i dont think game freak fits in marioawards
  662. [2017-03-17 18:04:45] <turb> oh ok
  663. [2017-03-17 18:04:49] <Lord_Bowser> or does that not count
  664. [2017-03-17 18:04:50] <shoutmon> 7two games in the early 90s though
  665. [2017-03-17 18:04:52] <turb> yeah
  666. [2017-03-17 18:05:01] <turb> i just wasnt sure they made any at all but i figured we kept them for a reason
  667. [2017-03-17 18:05:03] <meowth> 12i don't really think we need to change anything personally
  668. [2017-03-17 18:05:10] <Superchao> i don't think it's necessary
  669. [2017-03-17 18:05:24] <Superchao> if they got so few votes, i don't fele they need to be added
  670. [2017-03-17 18:05:29] <Superchao> see: never re-adding paon
  671. [2017-03-17 18:05:31] <turb> does 1-up studio count
  672. [2017-03-17 18:05:32] <Superchao> *feel
  673. [2017-03-17 18:05:34] <DragonFreak> 6oh yeah 1-up studios was originally brownie brown which helped make mother 3
  674. [2017-03-17 18:05:37] <turb> they seem to be owned by nintendo
  675. [2017-03-17 18:05:44] <turb> or like
  676. [2017-03-17 18:05:54] <turb> idk in a different way from anything else on this list
  677. [2017-03-17 18:05:56] <Lord_Bowser> 1 up studio helped with sm3dl/w and captain toad
  678. [2017-03-17 18:06:00] <turb> i forget what our distinction for partner developer is
  679. [2017-03-17 18:06:01] <Superchao> i'm not sure
  680. [2017-03-17 18:06:06] <shoutmon> 7well it says partner developer, not 3rd party
  681. [2017-03-17 18:06:10] <Superchao> i'd be inclined to say yes
  682. [2017-03-17 18:06:11] <Freakworld> uh yeah 1-up should count
  683. [2017-03-17 18:06:13] <shoutmon> 7so i guess any company other than intendo counts
  684. [2017-03-17 18:06:19] <Freakworld> i thought they were on the list already
  685. [2017-03-17 18:06:20] <Freakworld> wtf
  686. [2017-03-17 18:06:27] <Mariofan169> you know this is probably eating up my data like nothing else
  687. [2017-03-17 18:06:29] <shoutmon> 7even if nintendo owns 100% of the company
  688. [2017-03-17 18:06:33] <Freakworld> is this the berenstein universe
  689. [2017-03-17 18:06:37] <Mariofan169> got to go
  690. [2017-03-17 18:06:37] <Lord_Bowser> 1 up studio should be added then
  691. [2017-03-17 18:06:39] <shoutmon> 7no dude
  692. [2017-03-17 18:06:44] |<-- Mariofan169 has left irc.darkmyst.org (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  693. [2017-03-17 18:06:44] <shoutmon> 7irc uses like no data
  694. [2017-03-17 18:06:44] <Freakworld> bye
  695. [2017-03-17 18:06:50] <DragonFreak> 6lb would you vote for 1 up studios
  696. [2017-03-17 18:06:50] <shoutmon> 7come on
  697. [2017-03-17 18:06:53] <shoutmon> 7its text
  698. [2017-03-17 18:06:59] <Lord_Bowser> but doof
  699. [2017-03-17 18:07:00] <Lord_Bowser> hal
  700. [2017-03-17 18:07:01] <Freakworld> *formatted text
  701. [2017-03-17 18:07:13] <DragonFreak> 6but lb...ok yeah hal also made mother 3 lol
  702. [2017-03-17 18:07:19] <shoutmon> 7formatted with character codes that use 1-4 bytes
  703. [2017-03-17 18:07:28] <shoutmon> 7if thats killing his data, he doesnt HAVE a data plan
  704. [2017-03-17 18:07:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4here let's do this
  705. [2017-03-17 18:07:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "1-UP Studio" to M10? (Y/N/A)
  706. [2017-03-17 18:07:39] <Lord_Bowser> y
  707. [2017-03-17 18:07:39] <shoutmon> 7y
  708. [2017-03-17 18:07:41] <meowth> 12a
  709. [2017-03-17 18:07:45] <DragonFreak> 6y
  710. [2017-03-17 18:07:45] <Superchao> y
  711. [2017-03-17 18:07:53] <meowth> 12never really heard of them
  712. [2017-03-17 18:07:57] <Meta_Knight> 10a
  713. [2017-03-17 18:07:58] <meowth> 124-0-1
  714. [2017-03-17 18:07:59] <Nyrie> y
  715. [2017-03-17 18:08:03] <Lakituthequick> y
  716. [2017-03-17 18:08:03] <turb> a
  717. [2017-03-17 18:08:06] <DragonFreak> 6it's ok smasher i only heard of their previous name
  718. [2017-03-17 18:08:07] <meowth> 126-0-3
  719. [2017-03-17 18:08:09] <Lord_Bowser> they helped with sm3dl/w and captain toad smasher
  720. [2017-03-17 18:08:12] <shoutmon> 7neither have i, but someone said they made mario games
  721. [2017-03-17 18:08:18] <Lakituthequick> i never heard about them before
  722. [2017-03-17 18:08:18] <Meta_Knight> 10wait
  723. [2017-03-17 18:08:20] <Lakituthequick> but il ike hem
  724. [2017-03-17 18:08:21] <Lord_Bowser> and they were formerly known as brownie brown
  725. [2017-03-17 18:08:21] <Meta_Knight> 10i think last year
  726. [2017-03-17 18:08:28] <DragonFreak> 6yes lb
  727. [2017-03-17 18:08:32] <turb> mostly because idk what our criteria is and i didnt think we had wholly owned subsidiaries on here
  728. [2017-03-17 18:08:32] <Meta_Knight> 10there was a suggestion to put like
  729. [2017-03-17 18:08:38] <Meta_Knight> 10the most popular game they developed
  730. [2017-03-17 18:08:46] <Meta_Knight> 10to help people easilly identify who is who
  731. [2017-03-17 18:08:55] <Lord_Bowser> that could help yeah
  732. [2017-03-17 18:09:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok i'm adding it
  733. [2017-03-17 18:09:16] <Freakworld> still confused why they werent already on the lsit
  734. [2017-03-17 18:09:18] <ARFU> im sorry guys, i think im gonna head to bed
  735. [2017-03-17 18:09:23] <Freakworld> they helped make sm3dl and w after all
  736. [2017-03-17 18:09:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4have fun
  737. [2017-03-17 18:09:25] <Freakworld> night
  738. [2017-03-17 18:09:28] <ARFU> im way too tired
  739. [2017-03-17 18:09:31] <turb> https://www.mariowiki.com/Jupiter are these guys valid
  740. [2017-03-17 18:09:31] <ARFU> bye
  741. [2017-03-17 18:09:42] |<-- ARFU has left irc.darkmyst.org (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  742. [2017-03-17 18:09:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4oversights happen, that's why we convene every year and not just once in 2008
  743. [2017-03-17 18:09:49] <shoutmon> 7probably turb
  744. [2017-03-17 18:09:53] <shoutmon> 7but
  745. [2017-03-17 18:10:00] <shoutmon> 7i dont think theyve ever gotten a vote
  746. [2017-03-17 18:10:05] <turb> good point
  747. [2017-03-17 18:10:08] <Superchao> but do we /really/ have room for a planet!?
  748. [2017-03-17 18:10:08] <shoutmon> 7so if we nominated them it would just be who
  749. [2017-03-17 18:10:11] <Lakituthequick> they made picross
  750. [2017-03-17 18:10:15] <Superchao> in all seirousness
  751. [2017-03-17 18:10:16] <Lord_Bowser> i mean perch
  752. [2017-03-17 18:10:20] <Superchao> i think they're probably too obscure
  753. [2017-03-17 18:10:20] <Lord_Bowser> we have neptune
  754. [2017-03-17 18:10:23] <Lakituthequick> how many people do that a lot
  755. [2017-03-17 18:10:26] <turb> i like the idea of adding their most popular game in brackets though
  756. [2017-03-17 18:10:28] <Lord_Bowser> but for real yeah
  757. [2017-03-17 18:10:32] <turb> also i mean i had no idea what 1-up studio was lol
  758. [2017-03-17 18:10:36] <Superchao> to a level that people would barely even recognize the games and definitely not the company
  759. [2017-03-17 18:10:37] <turb> i knew brownie brown i guess
  760. [2017-03-17 18:10:40] <Lakituthequick> (disclaimer: picros is nice)
  761. [2017-03-17 18:10:41] <Superchao> that's just me tho
  762. [2017-03-17 18:10:46] <turb> i guess thats just because im a picross fangay
  763. [2017-03-17 18:10:55] <meowth> 12i wouldn't oppose adding most notable title(s) in brackets
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  765. [2017-03-17 18:11:10] <Lord_Bowser> i would support
  766. [2017-03-17 18:11:20] <Freakworld_> well to be complete we should add jupiter if theres isnt already => 15 nominees
  767. [2017-03-17 18:11:24] <DragonFreak> 6me too cause like i wouldn't know what alphadream is without an example
  768. [2017-03-17 18:11:33] <shoutmon> 7no
  769. [2017-03-17 18:11:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4why jupiter over any of the others
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  771. [2017-03-17 18:11:46] <shoutmon> 7we shouldnt spam the award with nominees that are going to get zero votes
  772. [2017-03-17 18:11:47] <DragonFreak> 6even though one of my favorite games is by alphadream lol
  773. [2017-03-17 18:11:48] =-= Freakworld_ is now known as Freakworld
  774. [2017-03-17 18:11:50] <Superchao> ^
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  776. [2017-03-17 18:12:00] <Superchao> we've seen nominees get zero votes on this award
  777. [2017-03-17 18:12:01] <Superchao> we didn't keep them
  778. [2017-03-17 18:12:03] <shoutmon> 7i already think 12 nominees is way too many honestly
  779. [2017-03-17 18:12:04] <Lakituthequick> per shoutmon
  780. [2017-03-17 18:12:08] <turb> mostly just because i spotted them in the category lol
  781. [2017-03-17 18:12:10] <meowth> 12paon o7
  782. [2017-03-17 18:12:13] <turb> i don't really have a particular preference for them
  783. [2017-03-17 18:12:18] <turb> and i'm not going to fight to get them on there
  784. [2017-03-17 18:12:19] <Freakworld> i dont really care
  785. [2017-03-17 18:12:25] <turb> i was just wondering if they were relevant enough
  786. [2017-03-17 18:12:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what's this thing about adding names
  787. [2017-03-17 18:12:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4would it just be one name
  788. [2017-03-17 18:12:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and how would we determine this
  789. [2017-03-17 18:12:37] <turb> but yeah most people probably wouldnt recognize/vote for them even if (mario picross) was there next to their name
  790. [2017-03-17 18:12:40] <Meta_Knight> 10just something like
  791. [2017-03-17 18:12:59] <turb> we lob out their most popular games they helped develop in a forum topic i guess
  792. [2017-03-17 18:13:07] <turb> and put them next to the nominee name
  793. [2017-03-17 18:13:07] <Meta_Knight> 10HAL Laboratories Inc. (Kirby series and Super Smash Bros.)
  794. [2017-03-17 18:13:12] <turb> or something like that yeah
  795. [2017-03-17 18:13:17] <turb> though
  796. [2017-03-17 18:13:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'd prefer the most relevant mario title
  797. [2017-03-17 18:13:23] <turb> i dont really feel confident putting kirby series on there
  798. [2017-03-17 18:13:26] <turb> that's not relevant to mario
  799. [2017-03-17 18:13:27] <turb> and yeah
  800. [2017-03-17 18:13:33] <DragonFreak> 6yeah i was just going to say that anton
  801. [2017-03-17 18:13:39] <Meta_Knight> 10if thats the case has hal done anything related to mario
  802. [2017-03-17 18:13:39] <Lord_Bowser> i think Nd Cube should have precedence over jupiter
  803. [2017-03-17 18:13:40] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o turb by ChanServ
  804. [2017-03-17 18:13:45] <Meta_Knight> 10anton wanted to cut everything smash related
  805. [2017-03-17 18:13:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if they haven't then they need to be removed
  806. [2017-03-17 18:13:52] <Lord_Bowser> because they're responsible for mp9 onwarfs
  807. [2017-03-17 18:13:56] <Lord_Bowser> onwards*
  808. [2017-03-17 18:14:01] <turb> oh, if 1-up studio is on
  809. [2017-03-17 18:14:03] <turb> we should have nd cube
  810. [2017-03-17 18:14:08] <Meta_Knight> 10although
  811. [2017-03-17 18:14:09] <Lord_Bowser> yeah
  812. [2017-03-17 18:14:13] <turb> they're also a fully owned subsidiary so
  813. [2017-03-17 18:14:16] <turb> and they've made mari oshit
  814. [2017-03-17 18:14:20] <Freakworld> nobody is going to vote for nd cube
  815. [2017-03-17 18:14:21] <Meta_Knight> 10i dont know how people would react to cutting the winner of the past 2 years
  816. [2017-03-17 18:14:24] <Freakworld> lets be honest.
  817. [2017-03-17 18:14:37] <turb> freakworld they fall under the same category......
  818. [2017-03-17 18:14:42] <meowth> 12some people probably would lol
  819. [2017-03-17 18:14:58] <Freakworld> whatever
  820. [2017-03-17 18:15:00] <DragonFreak> 6freakworld people unironically LOVE lp9
  821. [2017-03-17 18:15:01] <meowth> 12i support nd cube if we have 1-up studio
  822. [2017-03-17 18:15:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Nd Cube is an easier decision right now than HAL so let's decide that
  823. [2017-03-17 18:15:07] <DragonFreak> 6*mp9
  824. [2017-03-17 18:15:12] <Lakituthequick> well 1-up studio has a likeable name
  825. [2017-03-17 18:15:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Nd Cube" to M10? (Y/N/A)
  826. [2017-03-17 18:15:23] <DragonFreak> 6y
  827. [2017-03-17 18:15:24] <turb> y
  828. [2017-03-17 18:15:24] <Lakituthequick> we know how that goes in tems of votes
  829. [2017-03-17 18:15:25] <Superchao> y
  830. [2017-03-17 18:15:26] <Lord_Bowser> y
  831. [2017-03-17 18:15:27] <shoutmon> 7y
  832. [2017-03-17 18:15:27] <Lakituthequick> a
  833. [2017-03-17 18:15:29] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  834. [2017-03-17 18:15:36] <Freakworld> a
  835. [2017-03-17 18:15:40] <Superchao> not so much with mario awards though
  836. [2017-03-17 18:15:47] <Superchao> especially if we show what they've made
  837. [2017-03-17 18:15:55] <Nyrie> y
  838. [2017-03-17 18:16:12] <meowth> 12y
  839. [2017-03-17 18:16:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Nd Cube will be added
  840. [2017-03-17 18:16:33] <meowth> 128-0-2
  841. [2017-03-17 18:16:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any others to add before I move on to the next decision
  842. [2017-03-17 18:17:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next decision would be regarding naming
  843. [2017-03-17 18:17:16] <DragonFreak> 6i cant think of any
  844. [2017-03-17 18:17:18] <turb> i have nothing fwiw
  845. [2017-03-17 18:17:26] <Lord_Bowser> arika
  846. [2017-03-17 18:17:37] <Lord_Bowser> https://www.mariowiki.com/Arika
  847. [2017-03-17 18:17:44] <Lord_Bowser> responsible for recent dr mario
  848. [2017-03-17 18:17:47] <turb> and uh i checked hal's page and the closest they have to a mario game is that golf nes one with mari oin it
  849. [2017-03-17 18:17:51] <turb> if we aren't counting smash
  850. [2017-03-17 18:18:02] <turb> but
  851. [2017-03-17 18:18:06] <Freakworld> >inb4 people vote hal to #1 because of that
  852. [2017-03-17 18:18:07] <turb> that's something that can be discussed elsewhere
  853. [2017-03-17 18:18:08] <DragonFreak> 6i have never heard of any games arika developed lol
  854. [2017-03-17 18:18:10] <turb> so no one panic about that
  855. [2017-03-17 18:18:34] <DragonFreak> 6yea maybe we should make a forum topic about dropping hal if we're going to drop all smash
  856. [2017-03-17 18:18:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is arika something people are considering
  857. [2017-03-17 18:18:44] <Lord_Bowser> yeah i agree
  858. [2017-03-17 18:18:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we'll get to hal in a moment
  859. [2017-03-17 18:18:55] <turb> i would be fine with arika because they seem to be relevant enough
  860. [2017-03-17 18:18:56] <Freakworld> okay question
  861. [2017-03-17 18:18:57] <Lord_Bowser> arika i think could be a valid option
  862. [2017-03-17 18:19:02] <Lord_Bowser> dr mario is fun
  863. [2017-03-17 18:19:03] <turb> dr mario is more well known than picross and they have made recent games
  864. [2017-03-17 18:19:12] <Freakworld> are we doing smash discussion after mario awards or after were done with all awards
  865. [2017-03-17 18:19:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4soon
  866. [2017-03-17 18:19:41] <Freakworld> ok
  867. [2017-03-17 18:19:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Arika" to M10? (Y/N/A)
  868. [2017-03-17 18:19:56] <Lord_Bowser> y
  869. [2017-03-17 18:19:57] <Lakituthequick> smash is part of the mario awards so doing it after would be a bit counter-productive
  870. [2017-03-17 18:19:59] <Lakituthequick> a
  871. [2017-03-17 18:20:01] <DragonFreak> 6y
  872. [2017-03-17 18:20:02] <Freakworld> what is arika
  873. [2017-03-17 18:20:03] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  874. [2017-03-17 18:20:03] <Freakworld> a
  875. [2017-03-17 18:20:03] <meowth> 12a
  876. [2017-03-17 18:20:14] <Lord_Bowser> new dr mario freakworld
  877. [2017-03-17 18:20:16] <DragonFreak> 6freakworld https://www.mariowiki.com/Arika
  878. [2017-03-17 18:20:22] <Freakworld> oh
  879. [2017-03-17 18:20:25] <meowth> 123-0-3
  880. [2017-03-17 18:20:27] <turb> y
  881. [2017-03-17 18:20:28] <Freakworld> still a
  882. [2017-03-17 18:20:33] <meowth> 124-0-3
  883. [2017-03-17 18:20:49] <shoutmon> 7y
  884. [2017-03-17 18:20:53] <Freakworld> doesnt seem to me like a much different case from jupiter
  885. [2017-03-17 18:20:57] <meowth> 125-0-3
  886. [2017-03-17 18:21:05] <Lord_Bowser> they're more relevant and better known
  887. [2017-03-17 18:21:08] <Freakworld> and i a'd on that as well
  888. [2017-03-17 18:21:17] <Freakworld> i dont know them so
  889. [2017-03-17 18:21:18] <Freakworld> a
  890. [2017-03-17 18:21:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4arika is added
  891. [2017-03-17 18:21:41] <Freakworld> cool
  892. [2017-03-17 18:21:44] <meowth> 125-0-5 because freakworld has abstained three times
  893. [2017-03-17 18:21:49] <Lord_Bowser> lol
  894. [2017-03-17 18:21:49] <meowth> 12(no change)
  895. [2017-03-17 18:21:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next a more general thing
  896. [2017-03-17 18:21:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add relevant titles to each M10 nominee for context? (Y/N/A)
  897. [2017-03-17 18:21:55] <turb> y
  898. [2017-03-17 18:21:58] <DragonFreak> 6y
  899. [2017-03-17 18:21:59] <Lord_Bowser> y
  900. [2017-03-17 18:22:00] <Lakituthequick> y
  901. [2017-03-17 18:22:00] <Freakworld> y
  902. [2017-03-17 18:22:03] <Superchao> y
  903. [2017-03-17 18:22:11] <meowth> 12y
  904. [2017-03-17 18:22:23] <Freakworld> while were at it
  905. [2017-03-17 18:22:24] <Nyrie> y
  906. [2017-03-17 18:22:25] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  907. [2017-03-17 18:22:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4seems like we're doing that
  908. [2017-03-17 18:22:31] <shoutmon> 7y
  909. [2017-03-17 18:22:31] <meowth> 129-0-0
  910. [2017-03-17 18:22:34] <meowth> 1210-0-0
  911. [2017-03-17 18:22:39] <Freakworld> can we add super mario rpg for square and not mario sports mix
  912. [2017-03-17 18:22:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll create a topic to decide these after the meeting is over
  913. [2017-03-17 18:22:50] <Freakworld> oh ok
  914. [2017-03-17 18:23:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next would be re: HAL
  915. [2017-03-17 18:23:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we can't make a decision on HAL until we come to a more sweeping conclusion
  916. [2017-03-17 18:23:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that being the wholesale removal of Smash awards and nominees
  917. [2017-03-17 18:23:32] <Superchao> hmmm
  918. [2017-03-17 18:23:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this would exclude things like Peach's Castle in the DLC award
  919. [2017-03-17 18:23:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but include things like the Favorite Smash Character award
  920. [2017-03-17 18:23:58] <Superchao> my opinion, which is a bit based on nostalgia and on it just being a regularly big award
  921. [2017-03-17 18:24:01] <DragonFreak> 6im fine with removing smash things because i dont really think smash is "mario" to begin with
  922. [2017-03-17 18:24:10] <Superchao> is that i'd like to keep smash character but i'd be okay with scrapping smash in everything else
  923. [2017-03-17 18:24:19] <Freakworld> okay so my stance on this:
  924. [2017-03-17 18:24:20] <Superchao> like, one award for smash and that's it
  925. [2017-03-17 18:24:31] <Freakworld> im generally in favor of sceapping smash
  926. [2017-03-17 18:24:34] <Superchao> i don't entirely want to cut smash out 100%
  927. [2017-03-17 18:24:35] <DragonFreak> 6i wouldn't mind that either perch
  928. [2017-03-17 18:24:41] <Freakworld> however i feel like those awards are really popular as well
  929. [2017-03-17 18:24:42] <Meta_Knight> 10i think that's a good idea perch
  930. [2017-03-17 18:24:45] <meowth> 12i dont really want to cut out smash either
  931. [2017-03-17 18:24:46] <Lord_Bowser> per perch
  932. [2017-03-17 18:24:53] <Freakworld> so we should be careful about what to remove
  933. [2017-03-17 18:24:55] <Freakworld> so basically
  934. [2017-03-17 18:24:56] <meowth> 12entirely anyway
  935. [2017-03-17 18:24:57] <Freakworld> per perch
  936. [2017-03-17 18:25:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't believe that the award being popular means anything to its inclusion in a Mario Awards on a Mario Wiki
  937. [2017-03-17 18:25:14] <shoutmon> 7id like to cut smash wholesale
  938. [2017-03-17 18:25:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with that logic we could placate turb and include Pikmin
  939. [2017-03-17 18:25:26] <turb> i dont know honestly im leaning more towards anton
  940. [2017-03-17 18:25:28] <turb> 's stuff
  941. [2017-03-17 18:25:31] <turb> like
  942. [2017-03-17 18:25:38] <turb> remove everything except the relevant mario dlc
  943. [2017-03-17 18:25:41] <Meta_Knight> 10i can i can see that but mmario has a huge influence in smash
  944. [2017-03-17 18:25:43] <Freakworld> i mean fwiw the awards are about the community in a way
  945. [2017-03-17 18:25:47] <Lakituthequick> (Mario never crossed over with pikmin though in that sense)
  946. [2017-03-17 18:25:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so does pokemon
  947. [2017-03-17 18:25:58] <turb> i will change my opinion if we put pikmin 3 on favorite modern game
  948. [2017-03-17 18:25:59] <Lord_Bowser> favorite smash character is too big to remove imo
  949. [2017-03-17 18:26:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and fire emblem
  950. [2017-03-17 18:26:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but /why/ is it too big
  951. [2017-03-17 18:26:15] <Freakworld> idk i just dont feel comfortable with completely seperating all of it
  952. [2017-03-17 18:26:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what determined this aside from personal opinion
  953. [2017-03-17 18:26:26] <Lakituthequick> <s>ridley</s>
  954. [2017-03-17 18:26:27] <meowth> 12my personal opinion is thats there enough mario content in the series to maybe justify its inclusion on some awards especially if it did well
  955. [2017-03-17 18:26:41] <Superchao> i think it's just, i don't see why we need to completely and entirely cut this out when mario has long-associated with smash
  956. [2017-03-17 18:26:41] <Lord_Bowser> because it always receives a lot of votes, and like mk said mario has a large influence on smash
  957. [2017-03-17 18:26:42] <meowth> 12but i can live without the smash award itself, even though i kind of like it
  958. [2017-03-17 18:26:47] <shoutmon> 7re: favorite smash character
  959. [2017-03-17 18:26:48] <Freakworld> anton do you not feel the high energy every time that award is up
  960. [2017-03-17 18:26:49] <Lord_Bowser> also per perch
  961. [2017-03-17 18:26:50] <Superchao> maybe i'm just missing something
  962. [2017-03-17 18:26:57] <shoutmon> 7lets think about what could replace it
  963. [2017-03-17 18:27:07] <shoutmon> 7if we come up with something sufficiently good
  964. [2017-03-17 18:27:08] <Superchao> well i guess the decision's been made lol
  965. [2017-03-17 18:27:12] <shoutmon> 7we can cut it
  966. [2017-03-17 18:27:15] <Lord_Bowser> cutting out smash entirely wouldn't be a good idea
  967. [2017-03-17 18:27:17] <shoutmon> 7if not, not
  968. [2017-03-17 18:27:19] <turb> i mean
  969. [2017-03-17 18:27:21] <Lord_Bowser> downsizing sure
  970. [2017-03-17 18:27:22] <turb> we can just shelve it
  971. [2017-03-17 18:27:25] <turb> and put it back on if we have nothing good
  972. [2017-03-17 18:27:28] <Lakituthequick> per lb
  973. [2017-03-17 18:27:29] <Superchao> i could go for 22's idea
  974. [2017-03-17 18:27:30] <Lord_Bowser> but total removal
  975. [2017-03-17 18:27:32] <Lord_Bowser> no
  976. [2017-03-17 18:27:32] <turb> like 22 said
  977. [2017-03-17 18:27:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 22's right in that there's currently no backup for this
  978. [2017-03-17 18:27:37] <Freakworld> cutting out smash entirely is probably the only right way to go about this
  979. [2017-03-17 18:27:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I still would prefer to get rid of it entirely
  980. [2017-03-17 18:27:44] <Superchao> but why
  981. [2017-03-17 18:27:47] <Freakworld> but im not saying that its going to be great
  982. [2017-03-17 18:28:00] <shoutmon> 7so would i, but not if its going to make the awards worse overall
  983. [2017-03-17 18:28:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because I believe that even a weak award is better than a completely irrelevant award that's only kept around because people are nostalgic for it
  984. [2017-03-17 18:28:01] <Freakworld> because i just know that somewhere people are not going to like this
  985. [2017-03-17 18:28:03] <Superchao> thats a serious question, why is it so important to remove all smash stuff
  986. [2017-03-17 18:28:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because it's not Mario
  987. [2017-03-17 18:28:22] <shoutmon> 7thats why i think we should have a good replacement in place before we decide
  988. [2017-03-17 18:28:23] <Lakituthequick> Mario plays a big part in it
  989. [2017-03-17 18:28:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mario is in it, but it's not Mario
  990. [2017-03-17 18:28:30] <Freakworld> i dont think this is something we shoguld decide now
  991. [2017-03-17 18:28:40] <Lord_Bowser> mario has a pretty significant influence in the series as a whole though
  992. [2017-03-17 18:28:44] <Freakworld> might just be the most critical change this year
  993. [2017-03-17 18:28:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if we're to include things that have Mario in it we would have to expand the awards more
  994. [2017-03-17 18:28:46] <Meta_Knight> 10but by that logic dkc isnt mario either
  995. [2017-03-17 18:28:53] <Superchao> i think it might be better to make this a forum debate
  996. [2017-03-17 18:28:55] <Lord_Bowser> and it's covered fairly extensively on the wiki as well
  997. [2017-03-17 18:28:58] <Meta_Knight> 10dk is in mario but its not mario
  998. [2017-03-17 18:29:00] <Freakworld> per perch again
  999. [2017-03-17 18:29:08] <turb> theres nothing to lose by making it a forum debate yeah
  1000. [2017-03-17 18:29:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll create a forum thread about this, but I'll note
  1001. [2017-03-17 18:29:15] <Lord_Bowser> yeah this should be a forum thread
  1002. [2017-03-17 18:29:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I absolutely do not want votes being made purely from nostalgia
  1003. [2017-03-17 18:29:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that is not something I will consider
  1004. [2017-03-17 18:29:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if the award is to be kept I want a reason for it
  1005. [2017-03-17 18:29:38] <Freakworld> also i guess we could go into dkvine logic and declare starfox part of the mario universe as well @meta_knight
  1006. [2017-03-17 18:29:40] <shoutmon> 7also i dont think dk is in a similar situation
  1007. [2017-03-17 18:30:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if the logic is that mario is a big part of it, I want to know how big
  1008. [2017-03-17 18:30:03] <shoutmon> 7mario is essentially a dk spinoff that got way bigger than the original property
  1009. [2017-03-17 18:30:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4along with it relative to other properties
  1010. [2017-03-17 18:30:17] <turb> i mean if you say dk is in a similar situation you may as well say wario is also in a similar situation and go down the rabbit hole from there
  1011. [2017-03-17 18:30:27] <shoutmon> 7smash was originally a crossover that mixed parts from many different series equally
  1012. [2017-03-17 18:30:30] <turb> i think smash has a clear boundary since it's a crossover of nintendo properties
  1013. [2017-03-17 18:30:31] <turb> and yeah that
  1014. [2017-03-17 18:30:34] <turb> exactly what 22 said
  1015. [2017-03-17 18:30:37] <shoutmon> 7there's a closer connection between mario and dk than between mario and smas
  1016. [2017-03-17 18:30:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we'll table this to the forum
  1017. [2017-03-17 18:30:58] <Freakworld> good
  1018. [2017-03-17 18:31:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4in the meantime that means a decision cannot be made re: hal
  1019. [2017-03-17 18:31:10] <Freakworld> ok
  1020. [2017-03-17 18:31:11] <Superchao> blue it?
  1021. [2017-03-17 18:31:22] <Lord_Bowser> imo if we can find an adequate substitute regarding favorite smash character then by all means can it
  1022. [2017-03-17 18:31:25] <Superchao> all smash stuff is basically unsure by default until we decide it
  1023. [2017-03-17 18:31:29] <Lord_Bowser> if not keep it
  1024. [2017-03-17 18:31:34] <Superchao> including smash character award as a whle
  1025. [2017-03-17 18:31:35] <Superchao> *whole
  1026. [2017-03-17 18:31:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so M10 will remain incomplete until then
  1027. [2017-03-17 18:31:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4let me just write that I need to make this thread
  1028. [2017-03-17 18:32:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next up then:
  1029. [2017-03-17 18:32:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M11 Favorite Major Character (Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Rosalina, Bowser Jr., Toad)
  1030. [2017-03-17 18:32:41] <Superchao> [s]add waluigi[/s]
  1031. [2017-03-17 18:32:43] <shoutmon> 7add poochy
  1032. [2017-03-17 18:32:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4a note, last year we expanded the definition of this award
  1033. [2017-03-17 18:32:48] <Lord_Bowser> everyone better vote for bowser
  1034. [2017-03-17 18:33:06] <Freakworld> show the results
  1035. [2017-03-17 18:33:11] <Superchao> i think that even with the expanded definition there aren't any characters who feel "major" besides these 10
  1036. [2017-03-17 18:33:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yL47QoJ30K51pFmRyvdEpZ0g1ulv5t6gLBQqHE_LBws/edit#heading=h.u79006v73j4v
  1037. [2017-03-17 18:33:18] <Superchao> so i'd be down to leave it as is
  1038. [2017-03-17 18:33:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm content with it
  1039. [2017-03-17 18:33:36] <Superchao> also rip dk
  1040. [2017-03-17 18:33:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and also agree with donkey kong placing last
  1041. [2017-03-17 18:33:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4:)
  1042. [2017-03-17 18:33:59] <Lakituthequick> the rainbow tasted him
  1043. [2017-03-17 18:34:00] <Nyrie> i say it's fine
  1044. [2017-03-17 18:34:03] <Freakworld> i disagree
  1045. [2017-03-17 18:34:11] <Lord_Bowser> it's fine as is imo
  1046. [2017-03-17 18:34:11] <turb> im fine with it as is
  1047. [2017-03-17 18:34:12] <Freakworld> lets rewrite this award
  1048. [2017-03-17 18:34:14] <shoutmon> 7add boo
  1049. [2017-03-17 18:34:14] <Freakworld> tbh
  1050. [2017-03-17 18:34:17] <meowth> 12i don't want to make any changes
  1051. [2017-03-17 18:34:18] <turb> add doopliss
  1052. [2017-03-17 18:34:21] <DragonFreak> 6add koopa troopa
  1053. [2017-03-17 18:34:23] <Freakworld> :^)
  1054. [2017-03-17 18:34:33] <Lord_Bowser> add tanooki bullet bills
  1055. [2017-03-17 18:34:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Poochy genuinely might be up as main character if the Yoshi series keeps focusing on him
  1056. [2017-03-17 18:34:37] <Freakworld> per moving on
  1057. [2017-03-17 18:34:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we'll keep that in mind later
  1058. [2017-03-17 18:34:43] <meowth> 12add me
  1059. [2017-03-17 18:34:59] <shoutmon> 7i dunno
  1060. [2017-03-17 18:35:01] <turb> i'm excited for that anton
  1061. [2017-03-17 18:35:04] <shoutmon> 7as much as i love poochy
  1062. [2017-03-17 18:35:12] <shoutmon> 7diddy kong isnt here
  1063. [2017-03-17 18:35:14] <turb> he definitely deserves to be on supporting character no matter what though tbh
  1064. [2017-03-17 18:35:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4moving on:
  1065. [2017-03-17 18:35:20] <turb> i think i would probably add diddy first and then poochy
  1066. [2017-03-17 18:35:21] <turb> but yeah
  1067. [2017-03-17 18:35:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M11 Favorite Supporting Character (Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Toadsworth, Diddy Kong, Professor E. Gadd, Toadette, Captain Toad, Birdo, Kamek, Poochy)
  1068. [2017-03-17 18:35:23] <shoutmon> 7and he has a more major role in his series than poocy does
  1069. [2017-03-17 18:35:31] <turb> add doopliss
  1070. [2017-03-17 18:35:37] <turb> no but actually idk anything off the top of my head
  1071. [2017-03-17 18:35:39] <shoutmon> 7seriously though, boo
  1072. [2017-03-17 18:35:42] <Lord_Bowser> kammy?
  1073. [2017-03-17 18:35:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 9) Toadsworth — 106 — 4.02% 10) Birdo — 75 — 2.84% 11) O. Starlow — 7 — 0.27% 12) O. Boo — 3 — 0.11%
  1074. [2017-03-17 18:35:51] <Superchao> add reimu
  1075. [2017-03-17 18:35:51] <Freakworld> leave as is
  1076. [2017-03-17 18:35:53] <shoutmon> 7boo has an amiibo and is therefore important
  1077. [2017-03-17 18:35:55] <DragonFreak> 6maybe we could add poochy to this like what turb just said
  1078. [2017-03-17 18:35:59] <turb> poochy is on this
  1079. [2017-03-17 18:36:02] <Superchao> poochy is on this
  1080. [2017-03-17 18:36:04] <Freakworld> ok per reimu
  1081. [2017-03-17 18:36:08] <shoutmon> 7poochy is on this
  1082. [2017-03-17 18:36:14] <turb> i was saying add diddy/poochy to major if that happens down the line
  1083. [2017-03-17 18:36:16] <DragonFreak> 6oh lol
  1084. [2017-03-17 18:36:17] <turb> anyway
  1085. [2017-03-17 18:36:26] <turb> uh, i dont really want to add starlow but my opinion doesnt really matter
  1086. [2017-03-17 18:36:37] <turb> but i guess we can't necessarily add boo but not her if we go solely off of votes
  1087. [2017-03-17 18:36:38] <Superchao> i don't think 7 votes is worth adding
  1088. [2017-03-17 18:36:39] * DragonFreak 6cowers in fear of starlow
  1089. [2017-03-17 18:36:41] <turb> boo does have an amiibo
  1090. [2017-03-17 18:36:42] <Superchao> oh
  1091. [2017-03-17 18:36:53] <Superchao> i don't really know that an amiibo's existence is a strong argument
  1092. [2017-03-17 18:37:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4why does boo have an amiibo
  1093. [2017-03-17 18:37:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4let's look that up
  1094. [2017-03-17 18:37:34] <shoutmon> 7ive been wondering that since the first day of time
  1095. [2017-03-17 18:37:36] <Lord_Bowser> i think it's playable in mp10
  1096. [2017-03-17 18:37:43] <Nyrie> boo is in a lot of spinoffs
  1097. [2017-03-17 18:37:45] <shoutmon> 7but it does, so clearly its an important character
  1098. [2017-03-17 18:37:45] <Superchao> by that token, couldn't we justify adding Dr. Mario
  1099. [2017-03-17 18:37:48] <Nyrie> especially sports games
  1100. [2017-03-17 18:37:58] <Nyrie> its not in mp10 it was in star rush
  1101. [2017-03-17 18:38:06] <Lord_Bowser> oh
  1102. [2017-03-17 18:38:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4mario party looks like it
  1103. [2017-03-17 18:38:13] <turb> is there one dedicated boo character
  1104. [2017-03-17 18:38:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4star rush and mp10
  1105. [2017-03-17 18:38:18] <shoutmon> 7is dr mario a character or is he just mario wearing a costume
  1106. [2017-03-17 18:38:18] <turb> like birdo and kamek
  1107. [2017-03-17 18:38:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/detail/boo-amiibo-super-mario-series
  1108. [2017-03-17 18:38:30] <Nyrie> boo is like toad i think
  1109. [2017-03-17 18:38:42] <shoutmon> 7captain boo: treasure tracker
  1110. [2017-03-17 18:38:46] <meowth> 12i'm iffy on both boo and dr. mario
  1111. [2017-03-17 18:38:48] <meowth> 12i'd buy that
  1112. [2017-03-17 18:38:50] <shoutmon> 7i would play it
  1113. [2017-03-17 18:39:05] <shoutmon> 7would boo knock itself out with its own headlamp tho
  1114. [2017-03-17 18:39:09] <Nyrie> Is There Even A Specific Toad Character? ? ?
  1115. [2017-03-17 18:39:11] <Lord_Bowser> idk about dr mario but i wouldn't mind seeing boo
  1116. [2017-03-17 18:39:37] -->| Freakworld_ (Freakworld@a7qnkbo41.dyn.telefonica.de) has joined #mwikiawards
  1117. [2017-03-17 18:39:49] <Freakworld_> [02:38] Freakworld dont add boo
  1118. [2017-03-17 18:39:51] <Freakworld_> [02:38] Freakworld if thats the case we could also add say
  1119. [2017-03-17 18:39:52] <shoutmon> 7im not convinced there actually is someone just named "toad"
  1120. [2017-03-17 18:39:53] <Freakworld_> [02:38] Freakworld hammer bro
  1121. [2017-03-17 18:39:54] <Freakworld_> [02:38] Freakworld blooper
  1122. [2017-03-17 18:39:56] <Freakworld_> [02:38] Freakworld chargin chuck
  1123. [2017-03-17 18:40:08] <shoutmon> 7smrpg is the only game that really seems to imply that
  1124. [2017-03-17 18:40:09] <turb> is favorite major character collapsing at the seams
  1125. [2017-03-17 18:40:13] <turb> also now that i think about it yeah
  1126. [2017-03-17 18:40:15] <turb> favorite enemy
  1127. [2017-03-17 18:40:19] |<-- Freakworld has left irc.darkmyst.org (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Freakworld_)))
  1128. [2017-03-17 18:40:20] <shoutmon> 7with one specific toad having toad on all his dialog boxes
  1129. [2017-03-17 18:40:20] <turb> but birdo and kamek are also enemies i guess
  1130. [2017-03-17 18:40:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah I believe Boo still solidly fits into enemy yeah
  1131. [2017-03-17 18:40:25] <turb> idk
  1132. [2017-03-17 18:40:25] <shoutmon> 7and all the others being unnamed
  1133. [2017-03-17 18:40:30] =-= Freakworld_ is now known as Freakworld
  1134. [2017-03-17 18:40:36] <turb> if i had to choose one or the other for boo i would put it in enemy
  1135. [2017-03-17 18:40:36] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Freakworld by ChanServ
  1136. [2017-03-17 18:40:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4kamek at least in the english games is like
  1137. [2017-03-17 18:40:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4a separate entity from magikoopas in stages
  1138. [2017-03-17 18:40:55] <turb> yeah
  1139. [2017-03-17 18:41:02] <Superchao> birdo and kamek are pretty heavily shown to be specific entities i feel
  1140. [2017-03-17 18:41:11] <Freakworld> y
  1141. [2017-03-17 18:41:11] <shoutmon> 7replace favorite smash character with favorite boo
  1142. [2017-03-17 18:41:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4whether or not he actually has a name that's not his species
  1143. [2017-03-17 18:41:18] <DragonFreak> 6good idea 22
  1144. [2017-03-17 18:41:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4he's still an individual
  1145. [2017-03-17 18:41:25] <Freakworld> i vote gameboo advance
  1146. [2017-03-17 18:41:32] <DragonFreak> 6i vote for the blindfolded hordes of boos in super princess peach
  1147. [2017-03-17 18:41:33] <Lord_Bowser> why not turboo
  1148. [2017-03-17 18:41:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4as for now though, to pick up the pace
  1149. [2017-03-17 18:41:37] <Superchao> i vote turboo
  1150. [2017-03-17 18:41:39] <Superchao> dammit
  1151. [2017-03-17 18:41:41] <Freakworld> turboo is fake and gay
  1152. [2017-03-17 18:41:47] <Superchao> wow rude
  1153. [2017-03-17 18:41:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Boo" to M12? (Y/N/A)
  1154. [2017-03-17 18:41:52] <turb> if you put favorite boo as an award to replace smash character people probably would meme me into first
  1155. [2017-03-17 18:41:54] <turb> a
  1156. [2017-03-17 18:41:54] <Freakworld> n
  1157. [2017-03-17 18:41:56] <Superchao> n
  1158. [2017-03-17 18:42:02] <shoutmon> 7y
  1159. [2017-03-17 18:42:02] <Lord_Bowser> a
  1160. [2017-03-17 18:42:05] <DragonFreak> 6y
  1161. [2017-03-17 18:42:07] <Lakituthequick> y
  1162. [2017-03-17 18:42:14] <Superchao> well i mean
  1163. [2017-03-17 18:42:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4n
  1164. [2017-03-17 18:42:18] <Superchao> it's basically you or king boo
  1165. [2017-03-17 18:42:21] <Meta_Knight> 10n
  1166. [2017-03-17 18:42:29] <Nyrie> y
  1167. [2017-03-17 18:42:30] <Freakworld> why no booigi
  1168. [2017-03-17 18:42:32] <Freakworld> *not
  1169. [2017-03-17 18:42:37] <turb> true
  1170. [2017-03-17 18:42:39] <Lakituthequick> >booigi
  1171. [2017-03-17 18:42:41] <Superchao> because nobody loves booigi
  1172. [2017-03-17 18:42:45] <shoutmon> 7boo + boo mushroom = boo boo
  1173. [2017-03-17 18:42:51] <meowth> 12a
  1174. [2017-03-17 18:42:54] <Lakituthequick> Booigi's Mansion: Blue Moon
  1175. [2017-03-17 18:42:59] <meowth> 124-4-3
  1176. [2017-03-17 18:43:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other votes
  1177. [2017-03-17 18:43:01] <meowth> 12well
  1178. [2017-03-17 18:43:16] <shoutmon> 7ill vote again if you want
  1179. [2017-03-17 18:43:19] <Lakituthequick> BM:BM
  1180. [2017-03-17 18:43:29] <shoutmon> 7bmb?
  1181. [2017-03-17 18:43:37] <DragonFreak> 6yes
  1182. [2017-03-17 18:43:39] <Lakituthequick> sure why not
  1183. [2017-03-17 18:43:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this is an indecision and I'll make YET ANOTHER forum topic about this
  1184. [2017-03-17 18:43:42] <Freakworld> bmb: the new horror game
  1185. [2017-03-17 18:43:59] <turb> yeah i genuinely dont really feel strongly enough either way to change my vote
  1186. [2017-03-17 18:44:05] <turb> i could switch to N but even then it would be 4-5
  1187. [2017-03-17 18:44:07] <turb> kinda too close
  1188. [2017-03-17 18:44:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is there anything else about M12 before we move onto the next award to also decide almost nothing on
  1189. [2017-03-17 18:44:11] <shoutmon> 7i just think
  1190. [2017-03-17 18:44:12] <Lakituthequick> inb4 46 new topics by 3am
  1191. [2017-03-17 18:44:12] <Freakworld> i feel a clear n
  1192. [2017-03-17 18:44:16] <shoutmon> 7worst case scenario
  1193. [2017-03-17 18:44:17] <Superchao> spooked my guts right out of my pockets
  1194. [2017-03-17 18:44:25] <shoutmon> 7boo does badly and we remove it next year
  1195. [2017-03-17 18:44:32] <meowth> 12i don't feel strongly either way either
  1196. [2017-03-17 18:44:36] <shoutmon> 7its not.... a big deal...
  1197. [2017-03-17 18:44:39] <Lord_Bowser> neither do i
  1198. [2017-03-17 18:44:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's true but I don't want that to be a precedent for anything else
  1199. [2017-03-17 18:45:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is there anything else about M12
  1200. [2017-03-17 18:45:24] <Lord_Bowser> not that i can think of
  1201. [2017-03-17 18:45:26] <meowth> 12i see the points on both sides
  1202. [2017-03-17 18:45:31] <turb> no one actually wants to add starlow right
  1203. [2017-03-17 18:45:32] <meowth> 12was dr mario in consideration
  1204. [2017-03-17 18:45:32] <turb> i dont
  1205. [2017-03-17 18:45:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i don't
  1206. [2017-03-17 18:45:41] <shoutmon> 7no, boo is a way better sphere
  1207. [2017-03-17 18:45:43] <meowth> 12nope
  1208. [2017-03-17 18:45:49] <shoutmon> 7if we add starlow and not boo im gonna be mad
  1209. [2017-03-17 18:45:50] <Freakworld> starlow best mario waifu 2k17
  1210. [2017-03-17 18:45:51] <Lord_Bowser> destroy starlow
  1211. [2017-03-17 18:45:51] <DragonFreak> 6starlow makes me hide under my bed
  1212. [2017-03-17 18:45:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok moving on
  1213. [2017-03-17 18:46:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M13 Favorite Level Theme (Grasslands, Desert, Snow/Ice, Mountain, Underground, Beach, Sky, Jungle, Space, Fire, Ghost Houses, Underwater, Castle, Airship, Factory/Industrial, Carnival, City/Town)
  1214. [2017-03-17 18:46:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 16) Underwater — 53 — 2.06% 17) Desert — 48 — 1.87% 18) O. Athletic — 2 — 0.08% 18) O. Autumn — 2 — 0.08%
  1215. [2017-03-17 18:46:28] <Lakituthequick> did smr introduce new areas
  1216. [2017-03-17 18:46:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this was a new award as of last year
  1217. [2017-03-17 18:46:36] <Nyrie> no
  1218. [2017-03-17 18:46:37] <Freakworld> no
  1219. [2017-03-17 18:46:39] <Freakworld> let this be
  1220. [2017-03-17 18:46:44] <turb> id say move on
  1221. [2017-03-17 18:46:45] <Nyrie> leave it
  1222. [2017-03-17 18:46:49] <Superchao> move on
  1223. [2017-03-17 18:46:50] <DragonFreak> 6what is athletic area
  1224. [2017-03-17 18:46:52] <Freakworld> let it be
  1225. [2017-03-17 18:46:54] <Freakworld> let it be
  1226. [2017-03-17 18:46:59] <shoutmon> 7i like this award
  1227. [2017-03-17 18:47:04] <Freakworld> whisper words of wisdom etc
  1228. [2017-03-17 18:47:06] <DragonFreak> 6me too
  1229. [2017-03-17 18:47:07] <Superchao> yeah well i like your /face/
  1230. [2017-03-17 18:47:11] <Nyrie> athletic is a music theme
  1231. [2017-03-17 18:47:12] <Nyrie> lmao
  1232. [2017-03-17 18:47:12] <Lord_Bowser> how come ghost houses is plural
  1233. [2017-03-17 18:47:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4moving on
  1234. [2017-03-17 18:47:20] <Lakituthequick> athletic is really a way of moving in a level
  1235. [2017-03-17 18:47:27] <shoutmon> 7do you think the poison jungles from nsmb are separate enough from reegular jungles like in dk
  1236. [2017-03-17 18:47:27] <DragonFreak> 6because lb there is more than one ghost house
  1237. [2017-03-17 18:47:28] <Lakituthequick> not its visual style
  1238. [2017-03-17 18:47:33] <Superchao> ehhh
  1239. [2017-03-17 18:47:37] <Freakworld> no
  1240. [2017-03-17 18:47:39] <Superchao> didn't they only show up in the one game?
  1241. [2017-03-17 18:47:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M14 Favorite Species (Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, Shy Guys, Chain Chomps, Bob-ombs, Bullet Bills, Dry Bones, Hammer Bros., Wigglers, Chargin’ Chucks, Lakitus, Yoshis, Toads, Lumas, Magikoopas)
  1242. [2017-03-17 18:47:44] <shoutmon> 7no lol
  1243. [2017-03-17 18:47:47] <Superchao> o
  1244. [2017-03-17 18:47:48] <shoutmon> 7thy were in like
  1245. [2017-03-17 18:47:52] <shoutmon> 76 games
  1246. [2017-03-17 18:47:55] <Superchao> i never played any NSMBs besides the first
  1247. [2017-03-17 18:47:56] <Lakituthequick> o lol that award triggers my stalk list
  1248. [2017-03-17 18:48:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 14) Lakitus — 36 — 1.36% 16) Bullet Bills — 28 — 1.06% 17) O. Bowser's species — 13 — 0.49% 18) O. Humans — 10 — 0.38% 19) O. Birdos — 6 — 0.23%
  1249. [2017-03-17 18:48:06] <Freakworld> they were in nsmb, nsmbw, nsmbu, nslu
  1250. [2017-03-17 18:48:07] <Superchao> ##Vote: LTQ
  1251. [2017-03-17 18:48:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4tfw humans
  1252. [2017-03-17 18:48:09] <Freakworld> thats 4
  1253. [2017-03-17 18:48:12] <turb> tfw humans
  1254. [2017-03-17 18:48:16] <turb> tfw odyssey
  1255. [2017-03-17 18:48:16] <shoutmon> 7you forgot nsmbds
  1256. [2017-03-17 18:48:18] <Superchao> add humans
  1257. [2017-03-17 18:48:21] <Lord_Bowser> ayy my species
  1258. [2017-03-17 18:48:23] <shoutmon> 7and sm3dw
  1259. [2017-03-17 18:48:27] <Superchao> nsmbds was the original nsmb
  1260. [2017-03-17 18:48:28] <Gamefreak75> add fork people
  1261. [2017-03-17 18:48:30] <Freakworld> >>>>>>>>bowsers species
  1262. [2017-03-17 18:48:32] <Freakworld> >>>>>>13
  1263. [2017-03-17 18:48:33] <Freakworld> what
  1264. [2017-03-17 18:48:34] <shoutmon> 7sorry i cant type
  1265. [2017-03-17 18:48:36] <shoutmon> 7sm64ds
  1266. [2017-03-17 18:48:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this award is already at 15
  1267. [2017-03-17 18:48:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't want to add anything unless we really have to, or remove something
  1268. [2017-03-17 18:48:50] <Superchao> wait
  1269. [2017-03-17 18:48:52] <Lord_Bowser> are you implying that's bad freakworld
  1270. [2017-03-17 18:48:53] <Superchao> lakitus are 14
  1271. [2017-03-17 18:48:56] <Superchao> bullet bills are 16
  1272. [2017-03-17 18:48:58] <Superchao> where's 15
  1273. [2017-03-17 18:48:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's a tie
  1274. [2017-03-17 18:48:59] <Freakworld> no its just
  1275. [2017-03-17 18:49:03] <DragonFreak> 6yeah we should add dragon-koopas
  1276. [2017-03-17 18:49:07] <Superchao> oh ok
  1277. [2017-03-17 18:49:08] <Freakworld> bowsers species = koopa????
  1278. [2017-03-17 18:49:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 14) Chargin' Chucks — 36 — 1.36% 14) Lakitus — 36 — 1.36%
  1279. [2017-03-17 18:49:25] <Superchao> anyhow i don't think anything's worth adding
  1280. [2017-03-17 18:49:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't either
  1281. [2017-03-17 18:49:34] <Gamefreak75> is there anything worth adding
  1282. [2017-03-17 18:49:36] <Gamefreak75> yeah
  1283. [2017-03-17 18:49:38] <shoutmon> 7also they were in nsmb2 as well so thats actually 7 games
  1284. [2017-03-17 18:49:40] <Lakituthequick> what term did walkazo use for bowsers species
  1285. [2017-03-17 18:49:46] <Lakituthequick> dragonkoopas i think
  1286. [2017-03-17 18:49:46] <DragonFreak> 6dragon-koopa
  1287. [2017-03-17 18:49:50] <Lord_Bowser> for real though nothing is really worth adding
  1288. [2017-03-17 18:49:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 24) O. Pixls — 2 — 0.08%
  1289. [2017-03-17 18:49:53] <Superchao> that's not an official term though
  1290. [2017-03-17 18:49:59] <Lakituthequick> true
  1291. [2017-03-17 18:50:01] <Lakituthequick> but its nice
  1292. [2017-03-17 18:50:06] <turb> id say move on and not add anything
  1293. [2017-03-17 18:50:07] <Freakworld> kek pixls
  1294. [2017-03-17 18:50:21] <Superchao> anyhow yeah, leave as is
  1295. [2017-03-17 18:50:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4moving on
  1296. [2017-03-17 18:50:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M15 Hardest Boss (Shadow Queen, Bonetail, Cackletta’s Soul, Culex, Elder Princess Shroob, Bowser (Paper Mario), Bowser X (Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story), Smithy, The Master (Final Form), Dreamy Bowser, Master Core/Fortress, Phantamanta, Boolossus, Kamek & Paper Kamek)
  1297. [2017-03-17 18:50:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 12) The Master (final form) — 74 — 3.14% 13) Kamek & Paper Kamek — 52 — 2.21% 14) Smithy — 45 — 1.91% 15) O. Bouldergeist — 13 — 0.55% 16) O. Dark Bowser — 9 — 0.38%
  1298. [2017-03-17 18:50:51] <DragonFreak> 6is there anything from color splash?
  1299. [2017-03-17 18:51:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4gay bowser
  1300. [2017-03-17 18:51:10] <Freakworld> not that i know
  1301. [2017-03-17 18:51:18] <shoutmon> 7color splash had the same kind of puzzle bosses as sticker star
  1302. [2017-03-17 18:51:18] <Lord_Bowser> i don't recall anyone citing particularly hard fights from cs
  1303. [2017-03-17 18:51:24] <Nyrie> nothing in cs
  1304. [2017-03-17 18:51:28] <Superchao> so, bullshit hard
  1305. [2017-03-17 18:51:30] <Lakituthequick> i could see gay bowser as a blooper writein
  1306. [2017-03-17 18:51:37] <Lord_Bowser> brb writing in
  1307. [2017-03-17 18:51:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4wait no gay bowser was the other game wasn't it
  1308. [2017-03-17 18:51:39] <Nyrie> no
  1309. [2017-03-17 18:51:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4dream team
  1310. [2017-03-17 18:51:50] <shoutmon> 7gay bowser was from mario 64
  1311. [2017-03-17 18:51:51] <Lord_Bowser> dreamy bowser anton yeah
  1312. [2017-03-17 18:51:51] <Nyrie> color splash bosses are stupid easy
  1313. [2017-03-17 18:52:08] <Lord_Bowser> also doesn't bowser get a rainbow shell in cs
  1314. [2017-03-17 18:52:16] <shoutmon> 7no, he thinks about it
  1315. [2017-03-17 18:52:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Black_Bowser
  1316. [2017-03-17 18:52:19] <Lord_Bowser> oh
  1317. [2017-03-17 18:52:23] <shoutmon> 7but he ends up dying himself emo instead
  1318. [2017-03-17 18:52:28] <Nyrie> that final boss wasnt hard at all
  1319. [2017-03-17 18:52:29] <Lord_Bowser> sad
  1320. [2017-03-17 18:52:32] <Nyrie> @ Black Bowser
  1321. [2017-03-17 18:52:47] <Nyrie> trust me its even easier than like half of the koopalings
  1322. [2017-03-17 18:52:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i'll defer to nyrie, as someone who's actually played the game unlike me
  1323. [2017-03-17 18:52:49] <DragonFreak> 6my is bowser so emo
  1324. [2017-03-17 18:52:57] <DragonFreak> 6*why is
  1325. [2017-03-17 18:53:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is anything worth being removed
  1326. [2017-03-17 18:53:12] <Nyrie> the hardest boss is larry but even then hes not that difficult
  1327. [2017-03-17 18:53:13] <shoutmon> 7because he mixed all the paint colors together to try and make his shell gay
  1328. [2017-03-17 18:53:20] <Nyrie> you just have to spam Thing cards
  1329. [2017-03-17 18:53:21] <shoutmon> 7but when you mix all the colors you get black
  1330. [2017-03-17 18:53:34] <Freakworld> but if he mixed them all
  1331. [2017-03-17 18:53:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4smithy is the lowest placed nominee
  1332. [2017-03-17 18:53:39] <Freakworld> shouldnt it be white
  1333. [2017-03-17 18:53:47] <meowth> 12master core is blue i guess until we come to a smash decision
  1334. [2017-03-17 18:53:47] <shoutmon> 7no?
  1335. [2017-03-17 18:53:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's light, fw
  1336. [2017-03-17 18:53:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4pigment would mix to black
  1337. [2017-03-17 18:53:53] <turb> thats not how paint works
  1338. [2017-03-17 18:53:54] <DragonFreak> 6cant bowser just be gay without colors
  1339. [2017-03-17 18:54:04] <Freakworld> fuck paint
  1340. [2017-03-17 18:54:06] <turb> anyways uh looking at the results
  1341. [2017-03-17 18:54:06] <DragonFreak> 6white is the absent of colors
  1342. [2017-03-17 18:54:08] <meowth> 12i don't think anything should be removed though
  1343. [2017-03-17 18:54:09] <Superchao> but he's not gay enough
  1344. [2017-03-17 18:54:09] <Lord_Bowser> "There's no such thing as straight people, Mario!"
  1345. [2017-03-17 18:54:11] <turb> nothing looks like its worth removing
  1346. [2017-03-17 18:54:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4moving on
  1347. [2017-03-17 18:54:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M16 Favorite Item (Tanooki Suit/Super Leaf, Super Star/Starman, Fire Flower, Mega Mushroom, Metal Cap, Wing Cap, Bullet Bill, Propeller Mushroom, Penguin Suit, Cloud Flower, Cape Feather, Gold Flower, Cat Suit/Super Bell, Double Cherry, Super Horn, Mystery Mushroom)
  1348. [2017-03-17 18:54:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 15) Bullet Bill — 80 — 3.08% 15) Super Horn — 80 — 3.08% 17) O. Blue Shell — 28 — 1.08% 18) O. Hammer Suit — 17 — 0.66%
  1349. [2017-03-17 18:54:48] <Lakituthequick> `did smr etc?
  1350. [2017-03-17 18:54:55] <Freakworld> no
  1351. [2017-03-17 18:55:12] <shoutmon> 7i dont hthink anyone's gonna love pink coins
  1352. [2017-03-17 18:55:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4looking at the list and I don't see anything
  1353. [2017-03-17 18:55:19] <turb> theres already a lot of nominees here
  1354. [2017-03-17 18:55:24] <turb> plus nothing got high enough i dont htink
  1355. [2017-03-17 18:55:29] <Lakituthequick> pink coints are in m22 already so
  1356. [2017-03-17 18:55:32] <Lakituthequick> *coins
  1357. [2017-03-17 18:55:36] <turb> i cannot fucking vbelieve 28 people voted blue shell as best item
  1358. [2017-03-17 18:55:39] <meowth> 12i think this one is fine
  1359. [2017-03-17 18:55:43] <Lord_Bowser> nothing really screams add/remove to me
  1360. [2017-03-17 18:55:44] <Freakworld> no new items in smr
  1361. [2017-03-17 18:55:47] <Freakworld> afaik
  1362. [2017-03-17 18:55:54] <meowth> 12people liked the blue shell l o l
  1363. [2017-03-17 18:55:57] <shoutmon> 7tfw the hammer suit is this low
  1364. [2017-03-17 18:56:00] <Superchao> maybe they just like to see people suffer
  1365. [2017-03-17 18:56:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what about cards
  1366. [2017-03-17 18:56:08] <Freakworld> i played it so
  1367. [2017-03-17 18:56:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4from color splash
  1368. [2017-03-17 18:56:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is that a thing
  1369. [2017-03-17 18:56:11] <Lord_Bowser> what about the nsmb blue shell
  1370. [2017-03-17 18:56:14] <shoutmon> 7also no, not those pink coins
  1371. [2017-03-17 18:56:17] <Gamefreak75> i think its the nsmb blue shell
  1372. [2017-03-17 18:56:19] <turb> oh
  1373. [2017-03-17 18:56:20] <Gamefreak75> which is amazing
  1374. [2017-03-17 18:56:21] <shoutmon> 7the pink coins from super mario run
  1375. [2017-03-17 18:56:21] <turb> if it is that makes sense
  1376. [2017-03-17 18:56:23] <meowth> 12o
  1377. [2017-03-17 18:56:24] <Lakituthequick> are cards really items in that sence though
  1378. [2017-03-17 18:56:25] <Freakworld> idk is stickers an items
  1379. [2017-03-17 18:56:26] <turb> the blue shell from nsmb was great
  1380. [2017-03-17 18:56:33] <shoutmon> 7they work like dragon coins from smw afaik
  1381. [2017-03-17 18:56:38] <Freakworld> id say stickers arent items
  1382. [2017-03-17 18:56:39] <Superchao> stickers were classed as a concept not an item iirc
  1383. [2017-03-17 18:56:41] <Freakworld> so cards arent either
  1384. [2017-03-17 18:56:44] <Freakworld> they contain items
  1385. [2017-03-17 18:56:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok
  1386. [2017-03-17 18:56:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so no changes
  1387. [2017-03-17 18:57:09] <meowth> 12i havent played color splash but from what i hear about it itd go in the same area as stickers ie concept
  1388. [2017-03-17 18:57:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M17 Favorite Mario RPG (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Paper Mario: Sticker Star, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition,
  1389. [2017-03-17 18:57:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam)
  1390. [2017-03-17 18:57:33] <Freakworld> add color splash
  1391. [2017-03-17 18:57:33] <meowth> 12color splash probably
  1392. [2017-03-17 18:57:36] <DragonFreak> 6yeah
  1393. [2017-03-17 18:57:42] <Freakworld> else leave
  1394. [2017-03-17 18:57:43] <Superchao> added spolor clash
  1395. [2017-03-17 18:57:44] <turb> color splash and move on i think
  1396. [2017-03-17 18:57:49] <meowth> 12i dont think that one needs a vote in all honesty
  1397. [2017-03-17 18:57:54] <meowth> 12just throw it on there
  1398. [2017-03-17 18:57:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah i'll add that, this is mostly a given yeah
  1399. [2017-03-17 18:58:02] <Lord_Bowser> yeah just add color splash
  1400. [2017-03-17 18:58:05] <Freakworld> WAIT
  1401. [2017-03-17 18:58:08] <Superchao> !?
  1402. [2017-03-17 18:58:13] <meowth> 12Oh No
  1403. [2017-03-17 18:58:14] <Lakituthequick> [Sat 02:57:38] Superchao added spolor clash
  1404. [2017-03-17 18:58:15] <Freakworld> according to bill trinen its an action adventure
  1405. [2017-03-17 18:58:20] <Freakworld> what do we do now
  1406. [2017-03-17 18:58:21] <turb> no fuck bill aaskhdjsdh
  1407. [2017-03-17 18:58:22] <Lakituthequick> Paper Mario: Spoiler Clash
  1408. [2017-03-17 18:58:26] <Superchao> remove it and sticker star
  1409. [2017-03-17 18:58:29] <Superchao> clearly
  1410. [2017-03-17 18:58:34] <shoutmon> 7add golf
  1411. [2017-03-17 18:58:38] <turb> Genre: Action-adventure game
  1412. [2017-03-17 18:58:38] <meowth> 12no bill
  1413. [2017-03-17 18:58:38] <turb> NO
  1414. [2017-03-17 18:58:40] <Freakworld> (really just move on)
  1415. [2017-03-17 18:58:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4lightning round
  1416. [2017-03-17 18:58:42] <Superchao> no, add tennis
  1417. [2017-03-17 18:58:45] <turb> Paper Mario: Color Splash is an action-adventure video game developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo for the Wii U. The game was released worldwide in October 2016.
  1418. [2017-03-17 18:58:47] <turb> NOOOOOOO
  1419. [2017-03-17 18:58:51] <Superchao> that was the one that one guy kept clamoring for
  1420. [2017-03-17 18:58:51] <DragonFreak> 6ooo lightninng
  1421. [2017-03-17 18:58:51] <Freakworld> add mario power tennis on the gba
  1422. [2017-03-17 18:58:51] <turb> ok just add it and move on lol
  1423. [2017-03-17 18:58:58] <DragonFreak> 6oh
  1424. [2017-03-17 18:59:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M18 Favorite Mario Party Game (Mario Party, Mario Party 2, Mario Party 3, Mario Party 4, Mario Party 5, Mario Party 6, Mario Party Advance, Mario Party 7, Mario Party DS, Mario Party 8, Mario Party 9, Mario Party: Island Tour, Mario Party 10)
  1425. [2017-03-17 18:59:07] <Superchao> zzzzzz
  1426. [2017-03-17 18:59:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4add whatever and that's it
  1427. [2017-03-17 18:59:09] <DragonFreak> 6skip
  1428. [2017-03-17 18:59:16] <DragonFreak> 6wait is there a new one?
  1429. [2017-03-17 18:59:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4wait is it already on
  1430. [2017-03-17 18:59:19] <shoutmon> 7star rush
  1431. [2017-03-17 18:59:22] <DragonFreak> 6oh right
  1432. [2017-03-17 18:59:23] <Freakworld> add star flush
  1433. [2017-03-17 18:59:25] <turb> add star rush and move on
  1434. [2017-03-17 18:59:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there it is
  1435. [2017-03-17 18:59:32] <Freakworld> aka fire emblem
  1436. [2017-03-17 18:59:32] <meowth> 12stair rash
  1437. [2017-03-17 18:59:34] <Freakworld> but mario party
  1438. [2017-03-17 18:59:40] <Superchao> add tsar crush
  1439. [2017-03-17 18:59:40] <DragonFreak> 6starfish
  1440. [2017-03-17 18:59:45] <Freakworld> catfish
  1441. [2017-03-17 18:59:56] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next is M19
  1442. [2017-03-17 19:00:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which we can't even decide on yet
  1443. [2017-03-17 19:00:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
  1444. [2017-03-17 19:00:03] <Superchao> whole thing's unsure
  1445. [2017-03-17 19:00:05] <Freakworld> isnt the meeting over
  1446. [2017-03-17 19:00:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we're ending like 10 seconds early tonight
  1447. [2017-03-17 19:00:15] <DragonFreak> 6we did it!
  1448. [2017-03-17 19:00:17] <Lakituthequick> woo
  1449. [2017-03-17 19:00:19] <DragonFreak> 6again!
  1450. [2017-03-17 19:00:22] <Lakituthequick> :toot:
  1451. [2017-03-17 19:00:22] <turb> i wanted to do sports game just for the sake of slapping superstars on and leaving
  1452. [2017-03-17 19:00:23] <Freakworld> well my battery is also empty
  1453. [2017-03-17 19:00:23] <turb> but its ok
  1454. [2017-03-17 19:00:24] * DragonFreak 6opens the wine
  1455. [2017-03-17 19:00:25] <Freakworld> just on time
  1456. [2017-03-17 19:00:27] <Superchao> i'll use those ten seconds to buy an ice cream when i'm 79
  1457. [2017-03-17 19:00:27] <turb> we got through it
  1458. [2017-03-17 19:00:27] <shoutmon> 7by my clock we ended 6 seconds late
  1459. [2017-03-17 19:00:31] * DragonFreak 6pours it on lb
  1460. [2017-03-17 19:00:31] <Lord_Bowser> woohoo
  1461. [2017-03-17 19:00:32] <Superchao> and then i'll think of yu
  1462. [2017-03-17 19:00:34] <Freakworld> good night everyone
  1463. [2017-03-17 19:00:35] <Lord_Bowser> hey
  1464. [2017-03-17 19:00:36] <Superchao> and thank you, anton
  1465. [2017-03-17 19:00:37] <Lord_Bowser> why me
  1466. [2017-03-17 19:00:39] <turb> yeah it was 7 by the time people asked if it was over
  1467. [2017-03-17 19:00:41] <DragonFreak> 6idk
  1468. [2017-03-17 19:00:43] <turb> thank you
  1469. [2017-03-17 19:00:44] |<-- Freakworld has left irc.darkmyst.org (Quit: zzzzzzzzz)
  1470. [2017-03-17 19:00:44] <turb> good night
  1471. [2017-03-17 19:00:47] * DragonFreak 6also gives a glass of wine to 22
  1472. [2017-03-17 19:00:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll get around to making the 400 threads
  1473. [2017-03-17 19:00:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next meeting is on saturday instead of friday
  1474. [2017-03-17 19:01:04] <DragonFreak> 6nice im off
  1475. [2017-03-17 19:01:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4or """""""sunday"" instead of """"saturday" if timezones
  1476. [2017-03-17 19:01:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there will be a reminder sent out
  1477. [2017-03-17 19:01:20] <Superchao> i can do it
  1478. [2017-03-17 19:01:29] <Lord_Bowser> i should be able to make that
  1479. [2017-03-17 19:01:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4turb i almost always work saturday nights but I don't think next meeting necessitates my presence
  1480. [2017-03-17 19:01:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so lube up
  1481. [2017-03-17 19:01:43] <turb> o boy
  1482. [2017-03-17 19:01:58] <turb> let's just lay out topics of discussion early
  1483. [2017-03-17 19:02:08] <turb> and ill try to not shit myself in the directors seat after like 3 years out of work
  1484. [2017-03-17 19:02:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4thankfully tonight we had a bunch of easy awards
  1485. [2017-03-17 19:02:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4near the end
  1486. [2017-03-17 19:02:31] <turb> actually i was surprised
  1487. [2017-03-17 19:02:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because i was getting increasingly frustrated with how many things we couldn't decide on
  1488. [2017-03-17 19:02:42] <turb> i thought we'd be debating hardest boss way harder than we did
  1489. [2017-03-17 19:02:51] <turb> i knew dlc would be a thing
  1490. [2017-03-17 19:02:54] <turb> but not the other few awards lol
  1491. [2017-03-17 19:03:01] <shoutmon> 7why hardest boss
  1492. [2017-03-17 19:03:08] <shoutmon> 7have any new games even come out recently
  1493. [2017-03-17 19:03:15] <DragonFreak> 6not really
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