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(Stanley) Thank you for
doing this interview.

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(James) Well, thank you for inviting me.

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(Stanley) You're welcome. I would like to
ask you some questions about Gladio B.

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(James) Sure.

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(Stanley) On the way over here,
I read the transcripts

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(Stanley) on the Gladio B series with
Sibel Edmonds,

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(Stanley) and I saw the series in 2013,

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(Stanley) which was kind of mind-blowing.

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(Stanley) But reading the transcripts now,

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(Stanley) we're a year ahead,

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(Stanley) and it really strikes me how
well this ties in with current events.

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(Stanley) Could you say something
about that?

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(James) I think you're exactly right.

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That was, in fact, one of the things Sibel
stressed in that video interview series:

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was that this is an area of the globe
that most people don't know about,

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but they're going to be increasingly
aware of in the future.

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And I think that's already started
to come true.

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I mean, for example, we had the
Boston Bombing, obviously,

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talking about Dagestan,
suddenly becoming

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at least something that was <i>mentioned</i>
in the news in America.

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And we're seeing... not necessarily
an <i>increase,</i>

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but certainly <i>ongoing</i> tensions,

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in the Caucasus region
and in Central Asia

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that I think are going to become more
and more important

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as we go out from here.

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So I think it is already starting
to come true,

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but I think it still has much more to go.

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I think that the way that people tend
to concentrate on the Middle East now

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is the way that they're going
to be concentrating

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on this region of the globe very soon.

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And I think that for people who aware
of that video interview series,

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they're probably ahead of the curve
when it comes to that.

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And I shared your experience, when
I was interviewing Sibel, with that:

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I had a vague idea what
we were talking about,

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but I was learning it at the
same time,

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and it was absolutely mind-blowing
for me as well.

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It put into perspective so many pieces
of the puzzle

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that I had encountered along the way

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but that I didn't know exactly how they
fit together.

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And even now, as I'm coming back to it

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and preparing this lecture here
in Groningen

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and coming back to some of
that information

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and seeing how it synthesizes in,

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as I continue to expand my
understanding of it,

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it continues to...

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it continues to blow my mind in some
ways, the way that it all fits together.

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So, yeah: it was a mind-blowing series,
and I think it is exceptionally important.

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And it is going to be <i>more</i> important as
things continue to play out.

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(Stanley) Yeah. The first time that
I saw it,

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(Stanley) I was a little overwhelmed by
the amount of information,

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(Stanley) the names that are being
named from the beginning,

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(Stanley) like the... Mister Çatlı,

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(James) Yes.

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(Stanley) which is the main figure
in the first of the series.

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(James) Yes.

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(Stanley) Reading it again, it becomes
a little more clear.

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(James) Mm-hm.

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(Stanley) You probably did a lot of
research to do this lecture.

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(Stanley) Could you say something

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(Stanley) about how important it is
to document things like this?

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(Stanley) Yeah, could you just...

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(James) Yes. Well, I think this is
absolutely, essentially important,

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because what Sibel has done with
the interviews that she has given

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is thrown, as you say, so much
information out on the table,

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some of which comes from
her own personal experience.

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But I think almost everything
which she talked about

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is verifiable through various news
stories, documents, court filings...

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There's a huge cookie crumb trail
all over the place

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that would <i>never</i> have made sense.

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I never would have found any
of that information

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without Sibel painting the picture.

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And now I can go and fill in
those details.

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But it's impossible...

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-- for me, at any rate --

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by myself, to do this.

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Which is why, I think, for people
who have had

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that similar mind-blowing experience
with that interview series,

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it's incumbent on them to become
part of this research,

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which is what I'm going to emphasize
in this lecture, in fact, at the end.

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Because there are still many things
that we need more things filled in

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with corroborating evidence: news
stories and all of this, that... again,

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I've only started to put those pieces
together, but there's much more to go.

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So I think it's an open-source effort that
will have to continue from here.

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We're really just launching it
at this point.

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(Stanley) Yeah, that's absolutely true.

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(Stanley) Could you say something...

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(Stanley) I personally find it very
significant

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(Stanley) that you've been invited to
speak at this university

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(Stanley) specifically on this subject,

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(Stanley) because it's kind of explosive,
in a way.

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(Stanley) How did you get in touch with
the people from the university?

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How did that contact go?

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(James) Yes. Well, I was contacted
by Tjeerd Andringa,

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who is at the University of Groningen.

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I had interviewed him on my podcast
maybe two years ago,

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and so he had suggested this,

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and Studium Generale was running
a lecture series

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-- on geopolitics and resources,
-- Stanley: Yeah.

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(James) and so Tjeerd suggested me
for that series,

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and suggested that Gladio B,

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and how that relates to geopolitics

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and the resource battle in Central Asia
might be a good topic,

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which I obviously agreed;
And so did Studium Generale,

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so it came together quite nicely.

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(Stanley) Yeah. This video I'm making
for <i>ZapLog</i>.

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(Stanley) I'm not officially a part of
<i>Zaplog;</i>

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(Stanley) It's just something that I'm
involved with on a...

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(Stanley) on a free basis?
How do you say it?

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(Stanley) You've just recently opened
your website up to people

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-- Stanley: that contribute some money.
-- James: Yes, yes.

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(Stanley) As little as one dollar
or 70 Euro cents a month,

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(Stanley) you can be a part of the open
source investigation.

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(James) Yes.

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(Stanley) Could you say something
about what's important

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(Stanley) in developing an open
source community

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(Stanley) when it comes to intelligence?

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(James) Yes. Well, I think the key to this
is that it doesn't...

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the shape that this takes obviously
doesn't depend on me

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or any other individual.

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It depends on the community itself,

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which is self-selecting.

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So it really is what people make of it.

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And I have been very, very happy
and impressed

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with some of the things that we've
managed to do already,

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which is, for example, the MH-17 report,
or others like that,

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that literally hundreds of people
contributed to,

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speaking all sorts of different languages,
in different parts of the globe.

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It's incredible.

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So that's the idea of what we're
trying to develop.

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And we're going from here.
We're moving forward.

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And it's a slow process.

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I don't think that what I'm doing
at <i>The Corbett Report</i>

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is the be-all and end-all of this.

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It's just one tiny little piece
of the puzzle,

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but hopefully it's important,

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and hopefully other people can
take this idea and run with it,

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which is, I think...
when it starts to self-replicate,

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and everyone is involved and
is doing this

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in whatever way comes to them:
that's the point.

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We're looking for that kind
of tipping point.

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Because we, right now, have the
technology to do this,

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which truly never existed before
in the history of humanity.

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We are creating something
very new here.

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(Stanley) Yeah.

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(James) And I don't know what that's
gonna look like. <i>No one</i> knows that.

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But if we don't take advantage of it,

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if we don't shape it in the way that we
want, towards what we want

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-- it'll never happen.
-- Stanley: Yeah.

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So I'm taking the bull by the horns,
and let the chips fall where they may

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That was a weird mixed analogy,
but really...

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(Stanley) (laughs) Yeah. Like... with
working on <i>ZapLog</i>,

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(Stanley) I often run into the same
people,

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(Stanley) and looking at the
Web statistics,

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(Stanley) there are a lot of readers
out there,

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(Stanley) and in the case
of <i>Corbett Report</i>,

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(Stanley) there are many
more readers, probably

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(Stanley) than there are people
that contribute to the comments

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(Stanley) or say something
in the pipeline.

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(James) Right.

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(Stanley) Could you say
something about,

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(Stanley) maybe to... how do you say it?

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(Stanley) stimulate people to put on
their...

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(Stanley) (laughs) this is a Dutch
saying:

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(Stanley) "put on their naughty shoes."
(laughs)

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(Stanley) Which basically means,
just get over...

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(Stanley) just go and do it:
take the risk.

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(James) Right, right.

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(Stanley) Meaning, just take the chance

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(Stanley) of just speaking
your mind, or...

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(James) How to motivate people to that?

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(Stanley) Yeah, maybe a little bit of
a motivational...

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(James) Yeah, well, it's difficult for me,

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because the motivation, for me,
comes from within.

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(Stanley) Yeah.

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(James) I don't know why. I'm maybe the
<i>type</i> of person that's motivated by this;

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but for me, it was overwhelming when I
started encountering this information,

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and not ever having seen it before:
Why? Why not?

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And there was no good answer to that.
And the only thing I could think to do

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was to become part of the process
of spreading this to others.

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I had no idea what form that would take.

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Originally I was just going to hand CDs
of podcasts out to people.

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That was a silly idea. (laughter) I was in
Japan. Most people wouldn't even

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understand it, anyway. So I just decided,
"I'll start a website,"

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and it just developed organically.

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There is no master plan.

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I have no idea what form it's
going to take.

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All I know is I have to do it.

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And if someone doesn't have
that motivation,

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-- I can't fault them for that.
-- Stanley: No.

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(James) I just don't know
how to incite that.

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I think it's really just a question of
knowledge and understanding,

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and I think once you reach
a certain point

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of discrepancy between what
you're seeing and hearing

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and what you're finding out through
your own research,

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if that doesn't motivate you,
I don't know what will.

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(Stanley) So basically, the readers that
are reading:

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(Stanley) keep reading, keep researching,

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(Stanley) and whatever may come?

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(James) That's it.

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I try not to make too much of a set plan

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of how things are going to work, because
they never work out that way anyway.

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And everything I've done has been organic.

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It's just, "This seems like the thing
I should be doing, so I'll do it."

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And it's worked out so far,

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and who knows if it will work
in the future?

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But that's my agenda. That's my plan.

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(Stanley) OK. Well, for me personally,
this is

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-- my first video interview with anyone.
-- James: Thank you. Ah.

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(Stanley) I've wanted to do it with some
other people from Holland. There's...

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(Stanley) I don't know his name, but
there's a man that used to work for <i>NRC</i>.

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(Stanley) He's been in a few <i>RT</i>
interviews talking about the propaganda

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(Stanley) against Russia. But I thought
I'd take a chance now and interview you.

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-- So thank you very much!
-- James: I'm glad you did. Thank you.

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(Stanley) So maybe this is number one
of a long series. We'll see.

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(James): I hope so.

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-- Stanley: OK. Thank you very much.
-- James: Thank you.

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