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:04:54:34:. <Nighthawk2> I was thinking all lie detectors n1 then all oxygen from there on out
.:05:02:40:. <Jon> well the only real options are oxygen and lie detectors
.:05:03:07:. <Jon> i'm not a fan of lie detectors this early so oxygen seems like a better option
.:05:03:24:. <Nighthawk> I was actually thinking the opposite
.:05:03:37:. <Nighthawk> Oxygen has to wait all the way til day 3 to be useful
.:05:03:47:. <Nighthawk> if it's picked tonight there's three chances the wolves steal it
.:05:03:52:. <Nighthawk> if not there's only 2
.:05:03:52:. <Jon> 1 gun per phase would be useful
.:05:04:09:. <Nighthawk> and Lie detectors can't be used until Night 2
.:05:04:25:. <Nighthawk> I'd normally agree but I think that allowing any room for the wolves to make up what their items are is dangerous
.:05:04:30:. <Jon> if we lose a lot of people with a flood it might be better to try and kill a couple of people before night 3 to save on oxygen stockpiles
.:05:05:28:. <Jon> we're gonna have to trade items a lot to try and keep them from being stolen
.:05:06:12:. <Jon> i think we need a "use it or trade it" philosophy for night phases
.:05:07:05:. <Nighthawk> I think the wolves can probably steal an item on one end or the other if it's being traded
.:05:09:28:. <Jon> the mermaid is the key to the flood i think
.:05:09:31:. <Jon> not oxygen masks
.:05:11:29:. <Nighthawk> well if you go all-out on mermaids you increase the chances of a wolf rush
.:05:12:33:. <Jon> i just tried to work it out quick
.:05:12:52:. <Jon> if we dont hit any wolves and the wolves dont harpoon any mermaids
.:05:13:06:. <Jon> we go into the flood with 4 mermaids and 4 humans
.:05:13:36:. <Nighthawk> just off lynches and wolfings?  That seems like a lot
.:05:13:41:. <Nighthawk> are you factoring in guns?
.:05:14:10:. <Jon> no
.:05:14:19:. <Jon> 3 lynches 3 conversions 3 wolfings
.:05:14:37:. <Nighthawk> that only takes us from 22 to 13 though
.:05:14:52:. <Nighthawk> and also the wolves get an extra wolfing on Night 3 with the bomb
.:05:15:16:. <Jon> idk man i really think guns are our friends
.:05:15:40:. <Jon> what's stopping the wolves guarding the weapons sending guns to the other wolves?
.:05:16:42:. <Nighthawk> making people account for the items they distributed
.:05:16:47:. <Jon> 2 lie detectors 3 oxygen tanks and 1 gun this phase seems best to me
.:05:16:52:. <Nighthawk> like on day 3 having everyone say who they gave items to
.:05:17:36:. <Nighthawk> but how do we know to do that?
.:05:17:50:. <Nighthawk> like how do the item guardians figure it out
.:05:17:53:. <Nighthawk> they don't know each other
.:05:18:13:. <Jon> everyone who is selected this phase claims, like joey said
.:05:18:28:. <Jon> but they don't tell anyone who they are sending their stuff to
.:05:18:38:. <Nighthawk> but if everyone does that then the wolves get a free swipe of an item
.:05:18:52:. <Nighthawk> and why wouldn't they tell their item recipient what they're getting?
.:05:18:54:. <Jon> they have to swipe it off the recipent?
.:05:19:06:. <Nighthawk> no they don't
.:05:19:14:. <Jon> claim public, tell the person you send the item to in private
.:05:19:29:. <Nighthawk> socks happen before the items get given out
.:05:19:38:. <Jon> oh
.:05:19:40:. <Jon> nvm then
.:05:19:48:. <Jon> i guess we'll have to go all out
.:05:19:53:. <Jon> each phase
.:05:19:59:. <Jon> on one specific item
.:05:20:14:. <Jon> so joey's item is basically a free item for the wolves
.:05:20:25:. <Nighthawk> Only if Joey's telling the truth
.:05:20:29:. <Nighthawk> which he might not be
.:05:20:38:. <Jon> if heis he should get a boobytrapped gun
.:05:21:35:. <Nighthawk> that's probably what he'll do
.:05:23:42:. <Nighthawk> OK, I'll head out for now