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  1. [2017-03-10 18:02:16] <Anton{Politoed}> so, welcome to the first Awards Committee meeting of 2017!
  2. [2017-03-10 18:02:17] <Nyrie> fw it's 8pm here
  3. [2017-03-10 18:02:27] <turb> :clap:
  4. [2017-03-10 18:02:31] <Anton{Politoed}> keep in mind that daylight savings is like
  5. [2017-03-10 18:02:31] <dia> yay
  6. [2017-03-10 18:02:32] <Anton{Politoed}> in 2 days
  7. [2017-03-10 18:02:32] <Nyrie> yayayay
  8. [2017-03-10 18:02:36] <dia> ono
  9. [2017-03-10 18:02:44] <Lord_Bowser> yY
  10. [2017-03-10 18:02:44] <Anton{Politoed}> so the time will shift for anyone who doesn't follow that
  11. [2017-03-10 18:02:46] <Lord_Bowser> yay*
  12. [2017-03-10 18:02:47] <Mariofan169> do we all get participation trophies at the end
  13. [2017-03-10 18:02:48] <Freakworld> no nyrie youre thinking in timezones again
  14. [2017-03-10 18:02:51] <Toadbert> i dont observe daylight savings you guys all lose
  15. [2017-03-10 18:02:52] <turb> yeah and its going to kill me irl
  16. [2017-03-10 18:03:01] <Freakworld> yeah ill update my forum time accordingly
  17. [2017-03-10 18:03:11] <Freakworld> so it should still work out i hope
  18. [2017-03-10 18:03:18] <Anton{Politoed}> if anyone's not aware of what we do here in ac meetings
  19. [2017-03-10 18:03:20] <Anton{Politoed}> each week
  20. [2017-03-10 18:03:27] <Anton{Politoed}> actually i'm gonna make myself red hold on
  21. [2017-03-10 18:03:27] <Gamefreak75> wait is it really this weekend?
  22. [2017-03-10 18:03:30] <Gamefreak75> dls i mean
  23. [2017-03-10 18:03:32] <Freakworld> yes
  24. [2017-03-10 18:03:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yes
  25. [2017-03-10 18:03:35] <Lord_Bowser> yeah
  26. [2017-03-10 18:03:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anyways
  27. [2017-03-10 18:03:37] <Freakworld> 2 weeks ahead of us
  28. [2017-03-10 18:03:38] <Gamefreak75> damn
  29. [2017-03-10 18:03:40] <DragonFreak> 6yay red anton
  30. [2017-03-10 18:03:51] <meowth> 12colors are fun
  31. [2017-03-10 18:03:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what we do here each week is mull through https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit and make appropriate changes
  32. [2017-03-10 18:04:14] <Freakworld> havent seen that document in a year
  33. [2017-03-10 18:04:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we vote on things discussed in the forum thread and make quick decisions, which can always be readdressed
  34. [2017-03-10 18:04:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the purpose of meetings is to kinda make swifter decisions than the forum and have more open and fluid discussions
  35. [2017-03-10 18:04:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4all relevant links are located here: https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38178.msg1908407#msg1908407
  36. [2017-03-10 18:05:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and our schedule for this meeting is:
  37. [2017-03-10 18:05:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*Introduction
  38. [2017-03-10 18:05:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*Shroom/User merger
  39. [2017-03-10 18:05:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*Open immediate suggestions
  40. [2017-03-10 18:05:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*Begin Mario Awards
  41. [2017-03-10 18:05:30] <turb> the relevant links list is always in the topic as well if anyone needs it
  42. [2017-03-10 18:05:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah
  43. [2017-03-10 18:05:46] <Gabumon> 3Shrooser
  44. [2017-03-10 18:05:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and that was the brief intro so moving on is introducing the Shroom/User merger
  45. [2017-03-10 18:05:57] <Lord_Bowser> shrowser
  46. [2017-03-10 18:06:01] <Mariofan169> useroom
  47. [2017-03-10 18:06:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we will not be making a decision on this today
  48. [2017-03-10 18:06:14] <Freakworld> okay
  49. [2017-03-10 18:06:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4my intention is to just formally introduce this idea that we campaigned on
  50. [2017-03-10 18:06:15] <Freakworld> so
  51. [2017-03-10 18:06:16] <Gabumon> 3Yoom
  52. [2017-03-10 18:06:19] <Freakworld> ok
  53. [2017-03-10 18:06:21] <Freakworld> great
  54. [2017-03-10 18:06:23] <Freakworld> i was gonna ask
  55. [2017-03-10 18:06:30] <Freakworld> because im still unsure about the specifics
  56. [2017-03-10 18:06:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the idea behind it is that User Awards is falling out of relevancy
  57. [2017-03-10 18:06:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4refer to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit to see
  58. [2017-03-10 18:07:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4easily half of those awards are very difficult to justify having anymore
  59. [2017-03-10 18:07:17] <meowth> 12no one cares about the users anymore
  60. [2017-03-10 18:07:17] <turb> favorite mafia game, never forget
  61. [2017-03-10 18:07:18] <Freakworld> yes
  62. [2017-03-10 18:07:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't feel comfortable having a Favorite Retired User, plus basically everyone on it is someone from 2007 that no one knows
  63. [2017-03-10 18:07:29] <Lord_Bowser> delete users
  64. [2017-03-10 18:07:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Userpedia doesn't pump out creative works as much anymore
  65. [2017-03-10 18:07:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mafia board is dead
  66. [2017-03-10 18:07:47] <Gabumon> 3This will also have the added benefit of reducing the number of total awards and thus presentation sign-ups required
  67. [2017-03-10 18:07:48] <Toadbert> revive:
  68. [2017-03-10 18:07:49] <meowth> 12award of the year: favorite mafia game
  69. [2017-03-10 18:08:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yes, what edo said
  70. [2017-03-10 18:08:05] <Superchao> you weren't kidding, it really is half
  71. [2017-03-10 18:08:07] <Meta_Knight> 10im all for merging the two if it will make things more convinient
  72. [2017-03-10 18:08:13] <Superchao> honestly i was ambivalent at first
  73. [2017-03-10 18:08:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what I have marked down for awards we can keep
  74. [2017-03-10 18:08:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4-Keep U4??, U5, U6, U9, U10, merging of U2+3
  75. [2017-03-10 18:08:22] <Superchao> but now that i look at it and see how many are dead
  76. [2017-03-10 18:08:23] <Lord_Bowser> anyway in all seriousness i'm for merging
  77. [2017-03-10 18:08:26] <Superchao> i'd be fine with merging
  78. [2017-03-10 18:08:27] <Mariofan169> favorite community lper, good lord
  79. [2017-03-10 18:08:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's 4 solid ones, 1 iffy, and then one merger
  80. [2017-03-10 18:08:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if all accepted, that will be 6
  81. [2017-03-10 18:08:40] <meowth> 12i'm ok with merging
  82. [2017-03-10 18:08:41] <Lord_Bowser> user awards aren't very relevant anymore
  83. [2017-03-10 18:08:42] <Freakworld> i liked favorite community lper
  84. [2017-03-10 18:08:44] <Freakworld> :(
  85. [2017-03-10 18:08:46] <Superchao> i'd be fine with scrapping U4, btw
  86. [2017-03-10 18:08:47] <Freakworld> yeah uh
  87. [2017-03-10 18:08:48] <Superchao> like
  88. [2017-03-10 18:08:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4to be added to the already-10 Shroom Awards, to a 16
  89. [2017-03-10 18:08:52] <Freakworld> basically my main point is
  90. [2017-03-10 18:08:52] <turb> we are probably keeping all shroom awards for reference
  91. [2017-03-10 18:08:53] <turb> yeah
  92. [2017-03-10 18:08:57] <meowth> 12let me look at what those ones are again
  93. [2017-03-10 18:08:58] <DragonFreak> 6me too fw
  94. [2017-03-10 18:09:00] <turb> so we could scrap the iffy one and have an even 15
  95. [2017-03-10 18:09:02] <Superchao> i dunno, it feels like U4 isn't very relevant any more?
  96. [2017-03-10 18:09:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm kinda anal about it being 16 and would prefer it to be 15 but ___
  97. [2017-03-10 18:09:08] <turb> yeah im anal about it too
  98. [2017-03-10 18:09:09] <Freakworld> i really like the fact that shroom awards is its own thing
  99. [2017-03-10 18:09:10] <Superchao> user design doesn't come up much
  100. [2017-03-10 18:09:23] <Nyrie> oh god yeah 15 is a lot nicer of a number
  101. [2017-03-10 18:09:24] <turb> but if you guys are desperate enough for user design idk if we're in a position to argue
  102. [2017-03-10 18:09:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but yeah none of the Shroom Awards will be touched, at least by this merger
  103. [2017-03-10 18:09:37] <Toadbert> user design comes up anytime any user fiction happens though
  104. [2017-03-10 18:09:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if anything is done to Shroom Awards it will be decided by the Shroom staff and OKd by us
  105. [2017-03-10 18:09:39] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah i'm definitely for merging then
  106. [2017-03-10 18:09:43] <Toadbert> i would argue its still relevant
  107. [2017-03-10 18:09:46] <Gabumon> 3[02:09] Anton{Politoed} I'm kinda anal about it being 16 and would prefer it to be 15 but ___
  108. [2017-03-10 18:09:47] <Meta_Knight> 10that was one of my questions regarding that
  109. [2017-03-10 18:09:51] <Toadbert> not even fiction any picture of anyone
  110. [2017-03-10 18:09:52] <Gabumon> 3To be frank
  111. [2017-03-10 18:09:52] <Gamefreak75> 17 awards tbh
  112. [2017-03-10 18:09:53] <Mariofan169> honestly not much of the new users give a damn about their oc designs
  113. [2017-03-10 18:09:55] <Freakworld> i agree that the user awards are less important as of now but im still not 100% convinced that we should just meddle these together with
  114. [2017-03-10 18:10:00] <Freakworld> shroom awards
  115. [2017-03-10 18:10:01] <Nyrie> 17.2 awards
  116. [2017-03-10 18:10:03] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Gamefreak75 by turb
  117. [2017-03-10 18:10:04] <Gabumon> 3id say just get rid of U2 and U3
  118. [2017-03-10 18:10:10] <Mariofan169> it is steadily declining
  119. [2017-03-10 18:10:14] <Freakworld> i dont currently have another solution but thats what i think
  120. [2017-03-10 18:10:20] <Gabumon> 3nobody's really making those things anymore
  121. [2017-03-10 18:10:22] <DragonFreak> 6and u8
  122. [2017-03-10 18:10:27] <meowth> 12the four solid ones are good and 2 and 3 can safely be merged into favorite fiction or something
  123. [2017-03-10 18:10:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what me and turb kinda talked about re: U2 and U3 is to maintain a space for community works that aren't covered by the shroom
  124. [2017-03-10 18:10:38] <turb> idk u2 and u3 still feels more relevant to me than u4 overall
  125. [2017-03-10 18:10:40] <Superchao> how un-viable would it be to halve userpedia without merging it
  126. [2017-03-10 18:10:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4some still do exist and them being merged might make it viable, but we're not entirely sure
  127. [2017-03-10 18:10:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's just something we were hoping for
  128. [2017-03-10 18:10:50] <Freakworld> very unviable
  129. [2017-03-10 18:10:51] <Superchao> i.e. just have a 5-award ceremony
  130. [2017-03-10 18:10:51] <turb> yeah
  131. [2017-03-10 18:10:53] <Superchao> ok
  132. [2017-03-10 18:10:55] <turb> like idk
  133. [2017-03-10 18:10:57] <Freakworld> i mean like
  134. [2017-03-10 18:11:03] <meowth> 12id rather keep u2 and u3 than u4
  135. [2017-03-10 18:11:09] <turb> just having a space for community works seems appropriate to me since nothing else really covers it
  136. [2017-03-10 18:11:14] <Freakworld> it just seems wrong to have a ceremony with less than 10 awards
  137. [2017-03-10 18:11:15] <turb> out of what we're keeping
  138. [2017-03-10 18:11:16] <Mariofan169> but mafia could still make a comeback like vinyl-oh whatever
  139. [2017-03-10 18:11:22] <Toadbert> community works is kinda becoming retired user though
  140. [2017-03-10 18:11:23] <Superchao> we've done it before
  141. [2017-03-10 18:11:25] <Freakworld> no mafia is dead forever
  142. [2017-03-10 18:11:29] <Gabumon> 3If theres just a 5 awards category
  143. [2017-03-10 18:11:31] <Superchao> userpedia was 5 awards for a couple years
  144. [2017-03-10 18:11:32] <Toadbert> its stuff from so many years ago new people dont know about it anymore
  145. [2017-03-10 18:11:32] <Nyrie> mafia's gone
  146. [2017-03-10 18:11:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll be making a thread that will cover every aspect of this decision since it's like really bulky
  147. [2017-03-10 18:11:37] <Freakworld> was it
  148. [2017-03-10 18:11:39] <Superchao> yes
  149. [2017-03-10 18:11:41] <Gabumon> 3youre gonna have to hire a director for 5 awards
  150. [2017-03-10 18:11:43] <Freakworld> that mustve been before my time
  151. [2017-03-10 18:11:44] <dia> same
  152. [2017-03-10 18:11:46] <Gabumon> 3seems like a waste of resources
  153. [2017-03-10 18:11:51] <turb> yeah
  154. [2017-03-10 18:11:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah that leads into the next thing
  155. [2017-03-10 18:12:03] <Lord_Bowser> yeah i'm not sure hosting that small of a ceremony is worth the effort
  156. [2017-03-10 18:12:10] <turb> itd really be nothing but getting us to get another director + divvy up timeslot shit when we already run a 15 award ceremony with no breaks or issues
  157. [2017-03-10 18:12:10] <Freakworld> per
  158. [2017-03-10 18:12:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with this merger the remaining 5 User awards would fall under the jurisdiction of the Shroom Host
  159. [2017-03-10 18:12:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4who this year is Meta_Knight
  160. [2017-03-10 18:12:28] <shoutmon> 7if theres a debate about adding or keeping u2 and u3
  161. [2017-03-10 18:12:35] <Freakworld> idk a part of me is still iffy about the merging
  162. [2017-03-10 18:12:40] <Nyrie> i gotta go to dinner for a bit i'll be back in like 10 minutes
  163. [2017-03-10 18:12:45] <shoutmon> 7they could also be combined into favorite user fiction
  164. [2017-03-10 18:12:49] <turb> that's what we discussed
  165. [2017-03-10 18:12:50] <shoutmon> 7or something like that
  166. [2017-03-10 18:12:55] <Freakworld> ill try to think about this until the next meeting or whenever we wanted to finalize this
  167. [2017-03-10 18:12:56] <turb> anton can probably say more about it
  168. [2017-03-10 18:12:57] <Superchao> maybe we can leave that as a possible solution if someone's willing to volunteer
  169. [2017-03-10 18:12:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and another aspect of merging would be a new name for the ceremony
  170. [2017-03-10 18:12:59] <meowth> 12thats what i said yeah
  171. [2017-03-10 18:13:05] <Superchao> but don't go in hard on it
  172. [2017-03-10 18:13:06] <Gabumon> 3anton wants it to be 15, not 16
  173. [2017-03-10 18:13:08] <Superchao> Wiki Awards?
  174. [2017-03-10 18:13:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"Shroom Awards" would no longer be fully appropriate
  175. [2017-03-10 18:13:13] <Mariofan169> I'm all for it if it brings in more convenience
  176. [2017-03-10 18:13:16] <Gabumon> 3so I suggested dropping U2/3
  177. [2017-03-10 18:13:17] <Superchao> -wait
  178. [2017-03-10 18:13:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we kinda preferred Community Awards
  179. [2017-03-10 18:13:20] <Superchao> Community Awards
  180. [2017-03-10 18:13:25] <Superchao> yeah, why did i forget that
  181. [2017-03-10 18:13:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I do know that there's a cultural history of like
  182. [2017-03-10 18:13:29] <dia> sounds good
  183. [2017-03-10 18:13:30] <Meta_Knight> 10Community Awards sounds good
  184. [2017-03-10 18:13:32] <Mariofan169> community awards is the best option yeah
  185. [2017-03-10 18:13:36] <Freakworld> per
  186. [2017-03-10 18:13:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4absolutely not wanting to touch the "Shroom" name at all
  187. [2017-03-10 18:13:37] <turb> well, i have an idea for how i wanted to do the merger/keeping of awards
  188. [2017-03-10 18:13:38] <Lord_Bowser> community awards is good imo
  189. [2017-03-10 18:13:44] <turb> but i dont want to talk over what's currently happening
  190. [2017-03-10 18:13:47] <Meta_Knight> 10i know smb was really hard about that
  191. [2017-03-10 18:13:50] <turb> and yeah
  192. [2017-03-10 18:13:53] <Superchao> that'd be stupid, imo
  193. [2017-03-10 18:13:56] <Meta_Knight> 10but i'm director now and honestly it sounds good to me
  194. [2017-03-10 18:13:56] <turb> people have been touchy about the shroom but
  195. [2017-03-10 18:13:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the people who pushed that are no longer active in the community but I still don't want to exactly dive into it without being cautious of that decision
  196. [2017-03-10 18:13:58] <Superchao> and i'm speakign as shroom subdirector
  197. [2017-03-10 18:14:01] <dia> we coudl do something clunky
  198. [2017-03-10 18:14:03] <dia> like
  199. [2017-03-10 18:14:03] <shoutmon> 7well
  200. [2017-03-10 18:14:04] <turb> it should be up to MK and the current awards staff
  201. [2017-03-10 18:14:07] <Superchao> you can't just say this is all shroom when it's 1/3 not shroom
  202. [2017-03-10 18:14:08] <dia> Community And Shroom Awards
  203. [2017-03-10 18:14:14] <Superchao> ehhhh
  204. [2017-03-10 18:14:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah i thought about that brock but yeah clunky
  205. [2017-03-10 18:14:19] <Meta_Knight> 10thats too wordy imo
  206. [2017-03-10 18:14:21] <Superchao> that makes it sound like the shroom isn't part of the community
  207. [2017-03-10 18:14:26] <Freakworld> i say drop the shroom part of the name if you merge it
  208. [2017-03-10 18:14:28] <Superchao> when i'd say it should fall under that umbrella
  209. [2017-03-10 18:14:31] <Toadbert> community is a fine blanket term for it
  210. [2017-03-10 18:14:35] <Lord_Bowser> yeah be more inclusive
  211. [2017-03-10 18:14:36] <DragonFreak> 6community is a good name imo cause it covers userpedia, the wiki, and the shroom, which is almost all aspects of the community
  212. [2017-03-10 18:14:40] <dia> yeah im ok with community
  213. [2017-03-10 18:14:41] <Superchao> >not the forum
  214. [2017-03-10 18:14:42] <Superchao> WOW
  215. [2017-03-10 18:14:45] <Lord_Bowser> community would be best
  216. [2017-03-10 18:14:47] <meowth> 12community is the best possible name i think
  217. [2017-03-10 18:14:49] <Freakworld> its unnecessary to keep the tag if it doesnt include 100% concentrated shroom juice
  218. [2017-03-10 18:14:50] <dia> i just dont see a way to kee Shroom in if we're merging it
  219. [2017-03-10 18:14:51] <Toadbert> the forums are a mistake
  220. [2017-03-10 18:14:53] <DragonFreak> 6i mean i guess the forum too but not really also
  221. [2017-03-10 18:15:00] <Superchao> i'm super offended now :<
  222. [2017-03-10 18:15:02] <dia> in the name
  223. [2017-03-10 18:15:05] <Lord_Bowser> itc doof hates the forums
  224. [2017-03-10 18:15:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4in fairness of why I'm cautious of the name decision, the reasoning for keeping "Shroom" was that it was believed that the shroom awards helped advertise the magazine and gain writers/readers
  225. [2017-03-10 18:15:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's no numbers on that
  226. [2017-03-10 18:15:18] <DragonFreak> 6pls lb it's the part im actually on the most
  227. [2017-03-10 18:15:21] <Toadbert> i can see why youd say taht but
  228. [2017-03-10 18:15:22] <DragonFreak> 6well besides irc
  229. [2017-03-10 18:15:22] <Superchao> ehhh, i've never really noticed that much
  230. [2017-03-10 18:15:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so I can't confirm or deny the validity of that statement
  231. [2017-03-10 18:15:25] <shoutmon> 7we could also delete the artifical distiction we made a few years ago to separate favorite writer into two awards
  232. [2017-03-10 18:15:26] <Toadbert> i feel like its wishful thinking in practicality
  233. [2017-03-10 18:15:42] <Superchao> maybe it's just me but it doesn't feel like we've ever once had a sudden burst of applications
  234. [2017-03-10 18:15:43] <Freakworld> well fwiw nobody sees the shroom awards anyways since theyre kept somewhere on a subpage and not on the front page
  235. [2017-03-10 18:15:46] <Superchao> and i've had four years to see it
  236. [2017-03-10 18:15:57] <Meta_Knight> 10well i mean
  237. [2017-03-10 18:15:58] <Mariofan169> is there still a possibility of adding awards to this section
  238. [2017-03-10 18:16:01] <turb> we thought about that 22 but it feels like
  239. [2017-03-10 18:16:04] <Meta_Knight> 10if 10 of the awards are shroom awards
  240. [2017-03-10 18:16:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4((also just as a note it's difficult for me to read what everyone's saying and also keep talking too so I'll just reread logs when I go to make the thread))
  241. [2017-03-10 18:16:08] <turb> there's like a reason why it's split up like that
  242. [2017-03-10 18:16:10] <Superchao> let's wait until we know what section we'll even have
  243. [2017-03-10 18:16:11] <Gabumon> 3I don't see the artificialness of it, 2257
  244. [2017-03-10 18:16:16] <Superchao> @mariofan
  245. [2017-03-10 18:16:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4((also everyone's free to repeat themselves in the thread too))
  246. [2017-03-10 18:16:23] <Meta_Knight> 10wouldnt that still be a majority
  247. [2017-03-10 18:16:24] <turb> like there's no real proper way to merge those two categories because they are for pretty distinct things in shroom terms
  248. [2017-03-10 18:16:29] <Meta_Knight> 10and people could still go read the shroom
  249. [2017-03-10 18:16:30] <turb> and itd be kind of unfair
  250. [2017-03-10 18:16:34] <Gabumon> 3oh
  251. [2017-03-10 18:16:35] <Toadbert> besides
  252. [2017-03-10 18:16:39] <Gabumon> 3nevermind
  253. [2017-03-10 18:16:40] <Meta_Knight> 10so they have incentive to make a well informed vote
  254. [2017-03-10 18:16:41] <shoutmon> 7once they were one award
  255. [2017-03-10 18:16:44] <Gabumon> 3my mind was somewhere else
  256. [2017-03-10 18:16:48] <Freakworld> yeah i feel like i need to voice my concern
  257. [2017-03-10 18:16:49] <Toadbert> under "community" awards, then each shroom award would need to be labelled with "shroom" so you know what its about
  258. [2017-03-10 18:16:58] <Freakworld> not sure what exactly is bothering me rn
  259. [2017-03-10 18:16:58] <Toadbert> so the name doesnt vanish
  260. [2017-03-10 18:16:59] <Freakworld> though
  261. [2017-03-10 18:17:00] <Superchao> that doesn't seem very hard
  262. [2017-03-10 18:17:01] <dia> i think that sounds good
  263. [2017-03-10 18:17:03] <Superchao> also
  264. [2017-03-10 18:17:07] <Superchao> if we do merge it
  265. [2017-03-10 18:17:07] <turb> are we talking about veteran/new
  266. [2017-03-10 18:17:07] <dia> that sounds like a good compromise tb
  267. [2017-03-10 18:17:07] <Mariofan169> is a valid point
  268. [2017-03-10 18:17:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah tb that's a good point
  269. [2017-03-10 18:17:14] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah i like that idea
  270. [2017-03-10 18:17:18] <Lord_Bowser> yeah per tb
  271. [2017-03-10 18:17:26] <turb> idk i get your point but it's something that i dont know how to approach
  272. [2017-03-10 18:17:34] <Superchao> i'll brign it up later, actually
  273. [2017-03-10 18:17:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if it's about the veteran/new i was always kinda iffy about that too but yeah what turb said
  274. [2017-03-10 18:17:36] <turb> i dont want to encroach on shroom awards that much rn
  275. [2017-03-10 18:17:45] <turb> and yeah i agree with tb's idea
  276. [2017-03-10 18:17:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's a thing to discuss in shroom meetings for this
  277. [2017-03-10 18:17:47] <turb> yeah
  278. [2017-03-10 18:18:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but it's good to make note of /what/ we need to go over
  279. [2017-03-10 18:18:03] <Superchao> i wonder
  280. [2017-03-10 18:18:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this merger is honestly the biggest change we have planned for the entire awards at all
  281. [2017-03-10 18:18:14] <Superchao> i'll bring it up now after all - would we make the old S10 the new C1
  282. [2017-03-10 18:18:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4everything else seems fairly routine
  283. [2017-03-10 18:18:22] <Superchao> or lock it at 14 and make it a one-two finale
  284. [2017-03-10 18:18:57] <turb> hm
  285. [2017-03-10 18:18:58] <turb> i dunno
  286. [2017-03-10 18:19:01] <Freakworld> keep s10 at or near the end
  287. [2017-03-10 18:19:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other general sweeping concerns or thoughts about the User/Shroom merger idea
  288. [2017-03-10 18:19:06] <turb> maybe a one-two punch
  289. [2017-03-10 18:19:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we can discuss details more later
  290. [2017-03-10 18:19:14] <turb> or put s10 near the middle?
  291. [2017-03-10 18:19:26] <Superchao> well, we can probably talk about that if we decide to merge
  292. [2017-03-10 18:19:34] <Freakworld> sure
  293. [2017-03-10 18:19:38] <turb> i don't think i have anything beyond bringing up my ideas for what we were doing with userpedia awards
  294. [2017-03-10 18:19:42] <turb> like what we were keeping/merging
  295. [2017-03-10 18:19:43] <Superchao> anyhow beyond that i've got nothing
  296. [2017-03-10 18:19:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok
  297. [2017-03-10 18:19:48] <turb> which might be too specific
  298. [2017-03-10 18:20:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4some time after this meeting I'll set up a thread that will compile as much as I can re: talking points and decisions to be made about this
  299. [2017-03-10 18:20:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and depending on how bulky it is we can either dedicate solidifying every decision in one dedicated meeting, or spread it out as we discuss
  300. [2017-03-10 18:20:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but either way we will get back to it later on
  301. [2017-03-10 18:20:58] <Superchao> oh yeah! i remember what i was going to say for freakwrld
  302. [2017-03-10 18:21:03] <meowth> 12i dont have anything else to say about this for now
  303. [2017-03-10 18:21:05] <Superchao> it was 2010 and 2011 that had five userpedia awards
  304. [2017-03-10 18:21:12] <Freakworld> ah okay
  305. [2017-03-10 18:21:19] <Freakworld> yeah that was before i cared for the awards
  306. [2017-03-10 18:21:31] <DragonFreak> 6that weas before i existed
  307. [2017-03-10 18:21:40] <Lord_Bowser> me too
  308. [2017-03-10 18:21:55] <turb> oh yeah i like 0.2% remember that
  309. [2017-03-10 18:22:01] <dia> i dont have any ideas, but im for the idea of cutting unneccessary user awards
  310. [2017-03-10 18:22:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with that it for introducing the merger idea, next up is:
  311. [2017-03-10 18:22:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*Open immediate suggestions
  312. [2017-03-10 18:22:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what this means is right now we're just publicly calling for any immediate large suggestions anyone may have had but have not made yet
  313. [2017-03-10 18:22:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this could be changes to time, structure, tournaments, etc.
  314. [2017-03-10 18:22:40] <meowth> 12delete everything
  315. [2017-03-10 18:22:44] <Freakworld> okay for this i need to know one thing
  316. [2017-03-10 18:22:45] <meowth> 12nothing serious comes to mine
  317. [2017-03-10 18:22:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we'll consider
  318. [2017-03-10 18:22:48] <meowth> 12mind*
  319. [2017-03-10 18:22:48] <Superchao> it was probably obvious but
  320. [2017-03-10 18:22:52] <Freakworld> is there a current plan about tokens
  321. [2017-03-10 18:22:55] <Superchao> don't bother doing an awards mafia
  322. [2017-03-10 18:22:58] <Nyrie> back
  323. [2017-03-10 18:23:02] <Freakworld> wb
  324. [2017-03-10 18:23:08] <Mariofan169> I assume we're giving the pink slip to awards mafia
  325. [2017-03-10 18:23:09] <Meta_Knight> 10my only wish is for ac members to do at least one presentation which has already been covered
  326. [2017-03-10 18:23:14] <DragonFreak> 6yeah i dont see awards mafia is happening again
  327. [2017-03-10 18:23:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we have nothing in mind about tokens at the moment actually
  328. [2017-03-10 18:23:19] <DragonFreak> 6also per mk
  329. [2017-03-10 18:23:20] <Freakworld> per
  330. [2017-03-10 18:23:21] <Lord_Bowser> o7
  331. [2017-03-10 18:23:24] <Superchao> per
  332. [2017-03-10 18:23:29] <Lord_Bowser> per as well
  333. [2017-03-10 18:23:30] <turb> basically just things need to be restructured to fit the merger
  334. [2017-03-10 18:23:33] <Meta_Knight> 10so edo and me dont have to do 15 presentations in the last week of the ceremony
  335. [2017-03-10 18:23:35] <turb> which can be handled when we discuss that again
  336. [2017-03-10 18:23:38] <turb> and yeha thats fair
  337. [2017-03-10 18:23:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4honestly, with the walkazo donation being as successful as it was, it might have repaired the snowballing inflation
  338. [2017-03-10 18:23:41] <DragonFreak> 6i only did like 4 im sorry mk
  339. [2017-03-10 18:23:46] <Freakworld> no
  340. [2017-03-10 18:23:47] <Superchao> counterpoint: cirde
  341. [2017-03-10 18:23:47] <Meta_Knight> 10its okay
  342. [2017-03-10 18:23:49] <Superchao> *cirdec
  343. [2017-03-10 18:23:51] <Freakworld> theres still at least cirdec
  344. [2017-03-10 18:23:51] <turb> i think inflation is getting better aside from cirdec
  345. [2017-03-10 18:23:54] <turb> but i mean
  346. [2017-03-10 18:23:56] <Freakworld> with 1000 tokens
  347. [2017-03-10 18:23:58] <Gabumon> 3I mean, I have something in mind regarding tokens at the moment actually
  348. [2017-03-10 18:23:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and the only thing I can think of changing would be reverting back to cheaper prize rates
  349. [2017-03-10 18:24:00] <turb> idk if we can literally delete all of cirdec's tokens lol
  350. [2017-03-10 18:24:08] <Superchao> let's vote on it! :V
  351. [2017-03-10 18:24:14] <Gabumon> 3but ill bring that up once its relevant
  352. [2017-03-10 18:24:15] <Superchao> he can't complain if it was democratic!
  353. [2017-03-10 18:24:19] <Mariofan169> just turn all of them into bitcoins
  354. [2017-03-10 18:24:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4re: mafia, yeah if it's still a dead thing we won't hype it up
  355. [2017-03-10 18:24:43] <turb> ideally the merger will make it so there's less of a need for people to do 15 presentations in the last week honestly
  356. [2017-03-10 18:24:45] <Mariofan169> I mean
  357. [2017-03-10 18:24:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i mean feel free to go and make a game anyways, or a smaller one
  358. [2017-03-10 18:24:52] <Superchao> yeah there's no way a mafia would work this year
  359. [2017-03-10 18:24:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but we won't make it a highlight
  360. [2017-03-10 18:24:55] <turb> along with the rule about at least 1 presentation per committee member
  361. [2017-03-10 18:24:57] <Superchao> on the scale of AM1-5
  362. [2017-03-10 18:24:58] <Mariofan169> we could have a poll to gauge interest...?
  363. [2017-03-10 18:25:02] <Superchao> or what 6 was gonna be
  364. [2017-03-10 18:25:02] <turb> also i mean if you still want to make a mafia thats perfectly fine
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  366. [2017-03-10 18:25:08] <Superchao> i feel like smaller mafias might be good, though
  367. [2017-03-10 18:25:14] <turb> waiting for uniju mafia
  368. [2017-03-10 18:25:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4when's uniju mafia
  369. [2017-03-10 18:25:16] <Freakworld_> [02:24] Freakworld to be honest my idea was more like going in the direction of not having people carry over tokens from previous years at all anymore
  370. [2017-03-10 18:25:19] <turb> good idea anton
  371. [2017-03-10 18:25:21] <Superchao> if people want to revive mafia they should start small and build it back up to what it once was
  372. [2017-03-10 18:25:24] <Superchao> hmm
  373. [2017-03-10 18:25:30] <Superchao> i don't really like that idea
  374. [2017-03-10 18:25:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that was something edo, 22, and I discussed at the end of our term actually, fw
  375. [2017-03-10 18:25:42] <Superchao> like, i can understand imposing a time limit
  376. [2017-03-10 18:25:43] <Lord_Bowser> what about this
  377. [2017-03-10 18:25:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4not being right after that immediate year but
  378. [2017-03-10 18:25:48] <Mariofan169> remind me, was it the shroom or awards mafia that ran for a really long time
  379. [2017-03-10 18:25:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4after a couple, instead of a decay rate
  380. [2017-03-10 18:25:55] <Superchao> of "you need to use them within a certain couple ofyears"
  381. [2017-03-10 18:26:00] <Lord_Bowser> tokens carried over from last year lose half their value
  382. [2017-03-10 18:26:03] <Freakworld_> no
  383. [2017-03-10 18:26:06] <Superchao> but "you MUST use all tokens this year" is kinda shitty
  384. [2017-03-10 18:26:08] <Freakworld_> that wouldnt solve the problem
  385. [2017-03-10 18:26:10] <turb> i think having a limit of a few years would be appropriate
  386. [2017-03-10 18:26:11] <Lord_Bowser> instead of just outright all of it
  387. [2017-03-10 18:26:15] <turb> i mean is there even really a problem anymore
  388. [2017-03-10 18:26:15] <Gabumon> 3are we actually discussing tokens right now
  389. [2017-03-10 18:26:18] <turb> inflation seems to be doing better
  390. [2017-03-10 18:26:19] <Freakworld_> well
  391. [2017-03-10 18:26:21] <Superchao> because what if you don't want anything really expensive?
  392. [2017-03-10 18:26:21] <turb> we are
  393. [2017-03-10 18:26:22] <Freakworld_> tbh
  394. [2017-03-10 18:26:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there currently is a decay rate in effect, but it's admittedly very weak and never actually had to be implemented
  395. [2017-03-10 18:26:27] <Gabumon> 3well
  396. [2017-03-10 18:26:28] <Toadbert> add a limit of how many tokens something costs, and also how many totals total you can have to buy something
  397. [2017-03-10 18:26:29] <Superchao> also mariofan: it was shroom
  398. [2017-03-10 18:26:29] <Freakworld_> we already have a 2 year limit dont we
  399. [2017-03-10 18:26:35] <Superchao> that ran for six months and burned everyone out
  400. [2017-03-10 18:26:38] <Freakworld_> its not solving the problem
  401. [2017-03-10 18:26:38] <Gabumon> 3maybe I should talk about what I wanted to do then
  402. [2017-03-10 18:26:41] <Freakworld_> as you can see
  403. [2017-03-10 18:26:42] <Mariofan169> ah
  404. [2017-03-10 18:26:42] <Gabumon> 3my idea is
  405. [2017-03-10 18:26:43] <Superchao> it basically killed mafia as a whole
  406. [2017-03-10 18:26:45] <Freakworld_> yes please Gabumon
  407. [2017-03-10 18:26:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and ok edo
  408. [2017-03-10 18:26:54] <Lord_Bowser> we could also set a max limit of tokens that one person can have
  409. [2017-03-10 18:27:00] <Gabumon> 3at the end of every awards cycle
  410. [2017-03-10 18:27:04] <Freakworld_> yes blame pi for killing mafia i agree
  411. [2017-03-10 18:27:05] <Mariofan169> it's been at least a year and a half since then, tbf
  412. [2017-03-10 18:27:14] <Lord_Bowser> like say double the most expensive prize?
  413. [2017-03-10 18:27:15] <Gabumon> 3the amount of remaining tokens for each user
  414. [2017-03-10 18:27:16] <Superchao> >blaming pi
  415. [2017-03-10 18:27:19] <Superchao> pls
  416. [2017-03-10 18:27:20] <Mariofan169> it does have potential to come back
  417. [2017-03-10 18:27:21] <Gabumon> 3is divided by 10
  418. [2017-03-10 18:27:32] <Superchao> that is what we used to do
  419. [2017-03-10 18:27:34] <Superchao> iirc
  420. [2017-03-10 18:27:40] <Mariofan169> bloody pi, killing off the skype chat and now mafia
  421. [2017-03-10 18:27:43] <Freakworld_> why not just remove them entirely
  422. [2017-03-10 18:27:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ib-CpZxPII7OjKr4UcBfw0bgm7iDR_gfHyYKI6Hjn84/edit#gid=0
  423. [2017-03-10 18:27:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's the token sheet, for reference
  424. [2017-03-10 18:27:54] <Mariofan169> vote: pi
  425. [2017-03-10 18:27:55] <Freakworld_> i literally dont see the downside rn
  426. [2017-03-10 18:27:58] <Lord_Bowser> removing them entirely is a bit too harsh imo
  427. [2017-03-10 18:28:11] <Freakworld_> if you dont want to get anything that year, tough luck
  428. [2017-03-10 18:28:18] <Freakworld_> next year, same odds for all people
  429. [2017-03-10 18:28:22] <Lord_Bowser> besides cirdec no one seems to have big problems regarding that
  430. [2017-03-10 18:28:25] <Superchao> yeah
  431. [2017-03-10 18:28:26] <Freakworld_> you can try again
  432. [2017-03-10 18:28:27] <turb> yeah like that's the thing
  433. [2017-03-10 18:28:30] <turb> who are we aiming this at
  434. [2017-03-10 18:28:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the concern previously for people holding onto tokens was because of an undiversified prize pool
  435. [2017-03-10 18:28:38] <Superchao> it'd basically be punishing everyone for cirdec's actions
  436. [2017-03-10 18:28:43] <Lord_Bowser> ^
  437. [2017-03-10 18:28:44] <Superchao> and that's kind of a dick move
  438. [2017-03-10 18:28:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i.e. not everyone has steam, and steam games are 95% of the prizes
  439. [2017-03-10 18:28:46] <Toadbert> we could figure otu some kind of taxation thing
  440. [2017-03-10 18:28:46] <turb> no one has this issue except cirdec hoarding to buy every single european nintendo points card
  441. [2017-03-10 18:28:49] <dia> i dont have any tokens so
  442. [2017-03-10 18:28:50] <Toadbert> where the more you have the more you lose?
  443. [2017-03-10 18:28:53] <dia> i have no stake in this
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  445. [2017-03-10 18:28:57] <Freakworld_> well tbh there have been more people than cirdec hoarding tokens
  446. [2017-03-10 18:28:59] =-= Freakworld_ is now known as Freakworld
  447. [2017-03-10 18:29:01] <Superchao> who?
  448. [2017-03-10 18:29:01] <dia> are we making a cirdic rule
  449. [2017-03-10 18:29:03] <Freakworld> and i dont see why it wont happen again
  450. [2017-03-10 18:29:04] <dia> or ignoring that
  451. [2017-03-10 18:29:06] <Freakworld> me for example
  452. [2017-03-10 18:29:07] <Freakworld> lol
  453. [2017-03-10 18:29:08] <Lord_Bowser> cirdec is the most notorious
  454. [2017-03-10 18:29:09] <Superchao> then stop
  455. [2017-03-10 18:29:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4last year I tried to diversify the prizes and that kinda helped
  456. [2017-03-10 18:29:12] <Gabumon> 3[02:28] Toadbert we could figure otu some kind of taxation thing
  457. [2017-03-10 18:29:13] <Gabumon> 3[02:28] Toadbert where the more you have the more you lose?
  458. [2017-03-10 18:29:16] =-= Mode #mwikiawards +o Freakworld by ChanServ
  459. [2017-03-10 18:29:18] <Gabumon> 3dividing by 10 does exactly that
  460. [2017-03-10 18:29:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I also don't have an endless pit of money to dump into this
  461. [2017-03-10 18:29:26] <Freakworld> i dont do it anymore but the system is
  462. [2017-03-10 18:29:34] <Freakworld> ridiculously tempting to trick
  463. [2017-03-10 18:29:34] <Superchao> but
  464. [2017-03-10 18:29:38] <Superchao> how so?
  465. [2017-03-10 18:29:44] <Superchao> like what part of the system are you talking about
  466. [2017-03-10 18:29:45] <Freakworld> which is my main reason why i want to change it
  467. [2017-03-10 18:29:46] <Toadbert> good point
  468. [2017-03-10 18:29:48] <Toadbert> @edo
  469. [2017-03-10 18:29:57] <Freakworld> the point of having more tokens than you can earn in a year
  470. [2017-03-10 18:30:04] <dia> maybe we could play robin hood
  471. [2017-03-10 18:30:07] <Superchao> is to get two prizes?
  472. [2017-03-10 18:30:14] <dia> steal from the rich give to the poor
  473. [2017-03-10 18:30:19] <turb> well fwiw i like edo's idea as a concept but i'm undecided on whether we should actually implement anything
  474. [2017-03-10 18:30:27] <Gabumon> 3why
  475. [2017-03-10 18:30:31] <Freakworld> that could be solved by lowering prices
  476. [2017-03-10 18:30:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah fw idk what trick you're referring to
  477. [2017-03-10 18:30:39] <turb> mostly just want to hear more discussion about it
  478. [2017-03-10 18:30:44] <Gabumon> 3just because the economy is semi-stable now doesnt mean it wont happen again
  479. [2017-03-10 18:30:45] <Freakworld> which is feasible if everyone only has access to tokens from one year only
  480. [2017-03-10 18:30:50] <Lord_Bowser> i guess another alternative could be communism; i.e. taking everyone's remaining tokens and distributing them equally
  481. [2017-03-10 18:31:00] <Gabumon> 3its time to fix the problem before it flares up again
  482. [2017-03-10 18:31:01] <Freakworld> im referring to accumulating tons of tokens still
  483. [2017-03-10 18:31:02] <turb> i don't feel really strongly about this thing with the tokens either way but i do understand wanting to put in blanket rules so the economy doesn't collapse this year and the next
  484. [2017-03-10 18:31:02] <turb> yeah
  485. [2017-03-10 18:31:04] <Toadbert> wasnt there a planl ast year or something for tokens
  486. [2017-03-10 18:31:08] <Freakworld> and per Gabumon
  487. [2017-03-10 18:31:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but what's the trick you mean
  488. [2017-03-10 18:31:11] <Freakworld> honestly
  489. [2017-03-10 18:31:11] <Toadbert> where last years amount would halve in value
  490. [2017-03-10 18:31:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what's a trick about it
  491. [2017-03-10 18:31:19] <Freakworld> the trick is to not spend your tokens
  492. [2017-03-10 18:31:24] <Freakworld> it fucks up the economy
  493. [2017-03-10 18:31:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4to achieve what goal
  494. [2017-03-10 18:31:30] <Freakworld> to have more tokens
  495. [2017-03-10 18:31:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but why
  496. [2017-03-10 18:31:37] <dia> what if you lose half your unspent tokens every year
  497. [2017-03-10 18:31:50] <Gabumon> 3thats not enough to make a dent
  498. [2017-03-10 18:31:53] <Freakworld> because you can get more prizes than you could normally get
  499. [2017-03-10 18:31:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no you can't
  500. [2017-03-10 18:32:02] <turb> i mean
  501. [2017-03-10 18:32:03] <Freakworld> yes you can
  502. [2017-03-10 18:32:06] <Superchao> but you can't get more than one game at a time
  503. [2017-03-10 18:32:07] <Freakworld> or well
  504. [2017-03-10 18:32:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and even so that's literally not a problem or a trick
  505. [2017-03-10 18:32:10] <Freakworld> more expensive prizes
  506. [2017-03-10 18:32:11] <turb> there still is a hard limit on the amount of prizes you can get
  507. [2017-03-10 18:32:17] <Freakworld> its a flaw of the system
  508. [2017-03-10 18:32:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm not sure "saving tokens so you can get a more expensive game next year" is a flaw
  509. [2017-03-10 18:32:32] <turb> id rather just have dividing by 10/taxation system
  510. [2017-03-10 18:32:33] <DragonFreak> 6but it takes like a really long time tho
  511. [2017-03-10 18:32:33] <shoutmon> 7did someone propose progressive taxation for tokens
  512. [2017-03-10 18:32:36] <Freakworld> i meant more expensive prizes not more prizes
  513. [2017-03-10 18:32:40] <Superchao> yeah, per anton
  514. [2017-03-10 18:32:41] <turb> than axing all tokens every year
  515. [2017-03-10 18:32:42] <turb> so
  516. [2017-03-10 18:32:42] <Superchao> like
  517. [2017-03-10 18:32:45] <Freakworld> it is in my opinion
  518. [2017-03-10 18:32:55] <Nyrie> dividing by 10 seems like it's fine
  519. [2017-03-10 18:32:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4why is it a flaw
  520. [2017-03-10 18:33:00] <Gabumon> 3anyway, I gave everyone a very ominous warning about trying to hang on to tokens last year
  521. [2017-03-10 18:33:04] <Toadbert> id be fine with /10 method
  522. [2017-03-10 18:33:08] <turb> taxation should be enough to both stop the economy from shitting the bed and still make it feel "fair"
  523. [2017-03-10 18:33:10] <Gabumon> 3so we are entirely justified in taking drastic action
  524. [2017-03-10 18:33:11] <Superchao> i can go with /10
  525. [2017-03-10 18:33:15] <turb> because i dont really think saving tokens is a flaw on its own
  526. [2017-03-10 18:33:17] <meowth> 12back
  527. [2017-03-10 18:33:22] <turb> when you get to cirdec levels of hoarding it's a problem
  528. [2017-03-10 18:33:24] <meowth> 12divided by 10 is ok
  529. [2017-03-10 18:33:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah edo
  530. [2017-03-10 18:33:27] <Superchao> and yeah, i've always felt that saving tokens is fine
  531. [2017-03-10 18:33:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I've marked down the /10 idea in my notes
  532. [2017-03-10 18:33:35] <Superchao> especially if you're not able to get enough per year
  533. [2017-03-10 18:33:42] <Superchao> not having the right games or the like
  534. [2017-03-10 18:33:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I do also think that a diversified prize pool will also be effective
  535. [2017-03-10 18:33:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4in addition to the /10
  536. [2017-03-10 18:33:53] <Nyrie> i dont feel like it matters much because cirdec will still win every tournament and get the top prize anyway
  537. [2017-03-10 18:34:02] <meowth> 12pretty much lol
  538. [2017-03-10 18:34:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4which means ramping up how many people donate games or stuff
  539. [2017-03-10 18:34:05] <Lord_Bowser> should there be a threshold for the /10 idea
  540. [2017-03-10 18:34:11] <Gabumon> 3no
  541. [2017-03-10 18:34:15] <Lord_Bowser> like below a certain amount it doesn't apply
  542. [2017-03-10 18:34:19] <Gabumon> 3equal treatment for everyone
  543. [2017-03-10 18:34:22] <dia> i mean the pool is great, but if its all just
  544. [2017-03-10 18:34:24] <Freakworld> i dont really see what else i need to explain since we all agree on the core problem
  545. [2017-03-10 18:34:24] <dia> anton donating
  546. [2017-03-10 18:34:26] <dia> and no one else
  547. [2017-03-10 18:34:29] <dia> i dont really think thats fair
  548. [2017-03-10 18:34:30] <Nyrie> 0/10 is still 0 B)
  549. [2017-03-10 18:34:34] <dia> i know i dont have money to donate
  550. [2017-03-10 18:34:45] <Freakworld> i mean i guess the /10 cut would solve the problem
  551. [2017-03-10 18:34:53] <Meta_Knight> 10when is the next major steam sale
  552. [2017-03-10 18:34:58] <Meta_Knight> 10is it summer or is there one before then
  553. [2017-03-10 18:34:59] <turb> probably the summer sale
  554. [2017-03-10 18:34:59] <Superchao> when gaben wills it
  555. [2017-03-10 18:34:59] <Gamefreak75> spring
  556. [2017-03-10 18:35:00] <Freakworld> but i dont see why we dont just remove them entirely while were at it
  557. [2017-03-10 18:35:03] <turb> unless there is a spring sale
  558. [2017-03-10 18:35:11] <turb> i dont see the merit to removing them entirely
  559. [2017-03-10 18:35:13] <Superchao> because there's no real reason to completely axe them
  560. [2017-03-10 18:35:31] <turb> having just equal treatment for everyone by using the /10 cut feels more appropriate to me
  561. [2017-03-10 18:35:36] <Lord_Bowser> yeah doing that is too far imo
  562. [2017-03-10 18:35:36] <turb> both that and the diversified prize pool
  563. [2017-03-10 18:35:37] <Superchao> the problem is hoarding and inflation, which can be solved by shrinking the tokens carried over
  564. [2017-03-10 18:35:38] <turb> like anton said
  565. [2017-03-10 18:35:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4like
  566. [2017-03-10 18:35:44] <Superchao> simply saving tokens is not inherently an issue
  567. [2017-03-10 18:35:45] <Freakworld> is there a real reason to let people stay with an arbitrary number of tokens they probably cant evn put to good use
  568. [2017-03-10 18:35:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4look at what 10% of what cirdec's is
  569. [2017-03-10 18:35:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4he has 947
  570. [2017-03-10 18:35:52] <Freakworld> unless they have a fuck ton of excess tokens
  571. [2017-03-10 18:35:53] <Superchao> because you CAN put them to good use
  572. [2017-03-10 18:35:56] <Superchao> i have!
  573. [2017-03-10 18:35:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so rough math basically -100
  574. [2017-03-10 18:35:58] <Freakworld> cirdec is one person
  575. [2017-03-10 18:36:01] <Lord_Bowser> oh wait
  576. [2017-03-10 18:36:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4he'd still have 850
  577. [2017-03-10 18:36:04] <meowth> 12because you earned the tokens and there are legitimate reasons to save them
  578. [2017-03-10 18:36:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4give or take numbers if I actually did the math
  579. [2017-03-10 18:36:10] <Freakworld> most people dont have more th-
  580. [2017-03-10 18:36:13] <Superchao> you got it backwards
  581. [2017-03-10 18:36:14] <Freakworld> OH
  582. [2017-03-10 18:36:20] <Freakworld> i thought you meant 10% remain
  583. [2017-03-10 18:36:21] <Superchao> what edo's proposing is cutting it by 10
  584. [2017-03-10 18:36:24] <Superchao> to 95
  585. [2017-03-10 18:36:27] <Gabumon> 3what
  586. [2017-03-10 18:36:30] <Superchao> unless i'm the one who got it backwards
  587. [2017-03-10 18:36:33] <Gabumon> 3what im proposing is
  588. [2017-03-10 18:36:40] <Gabumon> 3he had 1000 last year
  589. [2017-03-10 18:36:45] <Gabumon> 3hes gonna have 100 this year
  590. [2017-03-10 18:36:47] <turb> oh
  591. [2017-03-10 18:36:47] <Freakworld> yes
  592. [2017-03-10 18:36:48] <Superchao> yeah
  593. [2017-03-10 18:36:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4oh ok
  594. [2017-03-10 18:36:49] <Meta_Knight> 10oh when he said divide by 10 i ithought he meant get rid of the last digit
  595. [2017-03-10 18:36:51] <Freakworld> i can agree with that
  596. [2017-03-10 18:36:52] <turb> yeah thats how i was reading it the whole time
  597. [2017-03-10 18:36:53] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah
  598. [2017-03-10 18:36:55] <turb> i can definitely agree with that
  599. [2017-03-10 18:36:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so lob off a 0
  600. [2017-03-10 18:37:00] <Meta_Knight> 10that gets rid of a large amount of tokens for everyone
  601. [2017-03-10 18:37:00] <Lord_Bowser> yeah that's how i saw it too
  602. [2017-03-10 18:37:01] <Superchao> pretty much
  603. [2017-03-10 18:37:03] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah anton
  604. [2017-03-10 18:37:17] <Lord_Bowser> also will rounding apply normally or always up/down
  605. [2017-03-10 18:37:23] <Superchao> always down
  606. [2017-03-10 18:37:24] <Lakituthequick> that is what dividing by 10 is
  607. [2017-03-10 18:37:25] <Superchao> kill those last tokens
  608. [2017-03-10 18:37:26] <Freakworld> down down down
  609. [2017-03-10 18:37:29] <DragonFreak> 6yeah everyone would pretty much be 100 tokes within each other
  610. [2017-03-10 18:37:31] <Lord_Bowser> alright
  611. [2017-03-10 18:37:48] <Gabumon> 3this creates a nice middle ground between your winnings from last year giving you a nice boost, while not forcing us to rebalance the entire economy based on your stack
  612. [2017-03-10 18:38:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4idk my gut says /10 is too much
  613. [2017-03-10 18:38:01] <Freakworld> (which is why i dont see the point of keeping tokens at all but i agree with this so im not gonna argue anymore)
  614. [2017-03-10 18:38:02] <dia> yes
  615. [2017-03-10 18:38:08] <Freakworld> no /10 is enough
  616. [2017-03-10 18:38:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'd like to run other numbers to see what works
  617. [2017-03-10 18:38:18] <Freakworld> it has to leave a big dent so accumulating tokens is impossible
  618. [2017-03-10 18:38:19] <Superchao> /100
  619. [2017-03-10 18:38:21] <Meta_Knight> 10thats fair
  620. [2017-03-10 18:38:24] <turb> well running numbers wouldn't hurt
  621. [2017-03-10 18:38:27] <Superchao> give cirdec nine tokens
  622. [2017-03-10 18:38:28] <dia> idk, is it something we should implement this year
  623. [2017-03-10 18:38:29] <dia> or like
  624. [2017-03-10 18:38:30] <turb> i just think we should have a cut in general
  625. [2017-03-10 18:38:31] <DragonFreak> 6 /5 is fair too
  626. [2017-03-10 18:38:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't want it to be a punishment
  627. [2017-03-10 18:38:33] <Superchao> yes
  628. [2017-03-10 18:38:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I want it to be a deterrent
  629. [2017-03-10 18:38:36] <dia> announce we're going to implement it next year
  630. [2017-03-10 18:38:38] <Superchao> this year
  631. [2017-03-10 18:38:42] <dia> so spend now
  632. [2017-03-10 18:38:44] <turb> i'm definitely open to other numbers myself but idk how everyone else feels
  633. [2017-03-10 18:38:46] <dia> oh
  634. [2017-03-10 18:38:47] <Superchao> because otherwise cirdec's absurd hoard would be even worse
  635. [2017-03-10 18:38:48] <Freakworld> not a punishment more like a permanent fix
  636. [2017-03-10 18:38:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4additionally
  637. [2017-03-10 18:38:55] <Gabumon> 3I am going to stick with /10
  638. [2017-03-10 18:38:57] <dia> yeah but
  639. [2017-03-10 18:39:00] <turb> well i think we should probably implement it sooner than later
  640. [2017-03-10 18:39:01] <dia> if we tell him spend now
  641. [2017-03-10 18:39:03] <Gabumon> 3the amount is adequate
  642. [2017-03-10 18:39:05] <Lord_Bowser> /10 is best imo
  643. [2017-03-10 18:39:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if we're going at this with the idea of literally only targeting cirdec
  644. [2017-03-10 18:39:05] <dia> or it will be chopped next year
  645. [2017-03-10 18:39:06] <turb> fix the problem before it starts up again
  646. [2017-03-10 18:39:07] <Superchao> he never spends
  647. [2017-03-10 18:39:08] <dia> would that work?
  648. [2017-03-10 18:39:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'd rather not do it at all
  649. [2017-03-10 18:39:14] <Freakworld> he wont spend
  650. [2017-03-10 18:39:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we need to look at this as a whole picture
  651. [2017-03-10 18:39:17] <dia> its kind of like
  652. [2017-03-10 18:39:18] <dia> springing
  653. [2017-03-10 18:39:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4how is this going to affect everybody
  654. [2017-03-10 18:39:22] <dia> it on people
  655. [2017-03-10 18:39:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4how will this affect the prize pool
  656. [2017-03-10 18:39:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4not just cirdec
  657. [2017-03-10 18:39:37] <Freakworld> the prizes will continue to go up
  658. [2017-03-10 18:39:37] <Lord_Bowser> well tbf there's nothing stopping other people from hoarding too
  659. [2017-03-10 18:39:37] <Gabumon> 3it is going to affect everybody equally.
  660. [2017-03-10 18:39:38] <dia> yeah
  661. [2017-03-10 18:39:46] <Freakworld> if we dont do anything
  662. [2017-03-10 18:39:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I know edo but it doesn't seem like anyone else cares about everyone since the discussion is about cirdec
  663. [2017-03-10 18:39:58] <turb> i mean
  664. [2017-03-10 18:40:02] <dia> no i just mean
  665. [2017-03-10 18:40:03] <Nyrie> dividing everyone by 10 objectively affects everyone the same way
  666. [2017-03-10 18:40:04] <Gabumon> 3well anton
  667. [2017-03-10 18:40:04] <Freakworld> and there could be potentially another 2015 or whenver it was where everyone had 5465324 tokens
  668. [2017-03-10 18:40:04] <dia> should we like
  669. [2017-03-10 18:40:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I know that's not what your idea is intending but I'd rather everyone be on the same page before we do anything
  670. [2017-03-10 18:40:07] <dia> put out a warning
  671. [2017-03-10 18:40:10] <turb> im thinking about cirdec a lot ill admit but it seems perfectly fair as a general idea
  672. [2017-03-10 18:40:11] <dia> that this is happening next year
  673. [2017-03-10 18:40:13] <dia> with a specific plan
  674. [2017-03-10 18:40:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I do support your idea
  675. [2017-03-10 18:40:15] <turb> i'd need to run more numbers
  676. [2017-03-10 18:40:17] <turb> but
  677. [2017-03-10 18:40:18] <dia> i know we hinted at this last year
  678. [2017-03-10 18:40:20] <dia> but it was more hints
  679. [2017-03-10 18:40:21] <Gabumon> 3I proposed the idea to you before everyone spent their tokens
  680. [2017-03-10 18:40:22] <dia> and what ifs
  681. [2017-03-10 18:40:24] <turb> it seems good on paper and fair for everyone
  682. [2017-03-10 18:40:25] <dia> not an actual plan
  683. [2017-03-10 18:40:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I want people to know what it is instead of "let's take away cirdec's tokens"
  684. [2017-03-10 18:40:28] <Gabumon> 3before I wrote the warning last year
  685. [2017-03-10 18:40:32] <Gabumon> 3so
  686. [2017-03-10 18:40:32] <dia> people didnt really have time to plan for a specific cut
  687. [2017-03-10 18:40:41] <Freakworld> cirdec is not the problem, the problem is that its even possible to have that many tokens
  688. [2017-03-10 18:40:44] <Gabumon> 3I did not have this idea in mind solely because of cirdec
  689. [2017-03-10 18:40:51] <Freakworld> because it ruins the economy in the long run
  690. [2017-03-10 18:40:53] <turb> i'm thinking of it as
  691. [2017-03-10 18:40:56] <Lord_Bowser> per fw
  692. [2017-03-10 18:41:01] <turb> "hoarding tokens is bad, regardless of who it is"
  693. [2017-03-10 18:41:05] <Lord_Bowser> ^
  694. [2017-03-10 18:41:06] <Freakworld> yes
  695. [2017-03-10 18:41:07] <Gabumon> 3the fact that everyone spent their savings now does not change my reasoning
  696. [2017-03-10 18:41:08] <dia> i think its a good idea
  697. [2017-03-10 18:41:09] <turb> so the problem needs to be stopped before it flares up again
  698. [2017-03-10 18:41:23] <turb> just because the economy got back on track last year doesnt mean it's going to stay that way
  699. [2017-03-10 18:41:26] <Superchao> pretty much
  700. [2017-03-10 18:41:30] <turb> and now that edos brought that up i definitely agree with him on it
  701. [2017-03-10 18:41:38] <Lord_Bowser> yeah this is like a safeguard
  702. [2017-03-10 18:41:40] <Nyrie> ^
  703. [2017-03-10 18:41:42] <Lord_Bowser> or insurance
  704. [2017-03-10 18:41:43] <shoutmon> 7yeah i think we should do this immediately, not wait for next year
  705. [2017-03-10 18:41:43] <Freakworld> good that we agree on that
  706. [2017-03-10 18:41:49] <Lord_Bowser> agreed
  707. [2017-03-10 18:41:49] <Nyrie> yeah don't wait
  708. [2017-03-10 18:41:50] <Gabumon> 3oh
  709. [2017-03-10 18:41:51] <shoutmon> 7weve been talking about doing things like this for
  710. [2017-03-10 18:41:52] <Freakworld> because that was my most pressing issue i guess
  711. [2017-03-10 18:41:53] <Gabumon> 3yes, immediately
  712. [2017-03-10 18:41:55] <shoutmon> 7a long time
  713. [2017-03-10 18:41:57] <turb> yeah so
  714. [2017-03-10 18:42:02] <Gabumon> 3thats what I wrote the warning for
  715. [2017-03-10 18:42:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I agree with that
  716. [2017-03-10 18:42:05] <turb> we should just do it asap imo
  717. [2017-03-10 18:42:12] <Freakworld> do it
  718. [2017-03-10 18:42:13] <turb> get rid of the problem before it starts up again
  719. [2017-03-10 18:42:17] <Freakworld> do it nao
  720. [2017-03-10 18:42:19] <turb> like not literally "as soon as this meeting is over"
  721. [2017-03-10 18:42:20] <turb> but
  722. [2017-03-10 18:42:22] <turb> run numbers
  723. [2017-03-10 18:42:25] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah i think we should do it this year but part of me agrees with anton in that we should run some more numbers
  724. [2017-03-10 18:42:26] <turb> and get it going before prizes are up
  725. [2017-03-10 18:42:28] <turb> probably?
  726. [2017-03-10 18:42:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok well I don't want to make the chop right now, yeah, I want it discussed but
  727. [2017-03-10 18:42:37] <turb> yeah
  728. [2017-03-10 18:42:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what we can do is bring this in
  729. [2017-03-10 18:42:42] <Gabumon> 3before prizes are up seems too late
  730. [2017-03-10 18:42:46] <turb> idk i don't mean to talk over you lol
  731. [2017-03-10 18:42:53] <Gabumon> 3it should be done as soon as possible
  732. [2017-03-10 18:42:55] <turb> oh i don't mean LITERALLY right before prizes are up
  733. [2017-03-10 18:43:11] <turb> just debate it during the next few weeks
  734. [2017-03-10 18:43:14] <Lord_Bowser> a thread/poll on this issue would definitely help
  735. [2017-03-10 18:43:21] <turb> and once we've come to a decision we can implement it
  736. [2017-03-10 18:43:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Should we make a decision on curtailing runaway token hoarding, regardless of what the decision is as long as there is something? (Y/N)
  737. [2017-03-10 18:43:32] <Superchao> y
  738. [2017-03-10 18:43:33] <Freakworld> y
  739. [2017-03-10 18:43:33] <turb> Y
  740. [2017-03-10 18:43:34] <Lord_Bowser> y
  741. [2017-03-10 18:43:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this is to make sure the proposal as a basis is supported
  742. [2017-03-10 18:43:35] <Lakituthequick> y
  743. [2017-03-10 18:43:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Y
  744. [2017-03-10 18:43:37] <shoutmon> 7y
  745. [2017-03-10 18:43:38] <Gabumon> 3I dont understand the question
  746. [2017-03-10 18:43:40] <DragonFreak> 6y
  747. [2017-03-10 18:43:45] <dia> y
  748. [2017-03-10 18:43:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's basically "do you want to do something"
  749. [2017-03-10 18:43:49] <Mariofan169> y
  750. [2017-03-10 18:43:50] <Freakworld> should there be a decision about tokens
  751. [2017-03-10 18:43:51] <Gabumon> 3y
  752. [2017-03-10 18:43:53] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  753. [2017-03-10 18:44:08] <meowth> 12y
  754. [2017-03-10 18:44:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok gr8 so I'll make sure this is a big topic we slam sooner than later
  755. [2017-03-10 18:44:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4give me a moment to scrawl this down
  756. [2017-03-10 18:44:19] <Freakworld> cool
  757. [2017-03-10 18:44:20] <Superchao> 62-0
  758. [2017-03-10 18:44:24] <Superchao> (13-0-0)
  759. [2017-03-10 18:44:27] <Gamefreak75> y
  760. [2017-03-10 18:44:27] <DragonFreak> 6also if you put it in perspective of how close everyone is, /10 would make it so everybody is within 100 of each other while /5 makes it so everyone is 150-200 whithin each other
  761. [2017-03-10 18:44:29] <meowth> 1213-0-0
  762. [2017-03-10 18:44:30] <Freakworld> thats all i had for pressing issues
  763. [2017-03-10 18:44:32] <meowth> 1214-0-0
  764. [2017-03-10 18:44:43] <meowth> 12fuck off perch i'm the official tallier
  765. [2017-03-10 18:44:48] <Gabumon> 3 /5 is too lenient
  766. [2017-03-10 18:44:49] <Lord_Bowser> also yeah df has a point
  767. [2017-03-10 18:44:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4tallymon
  768. [2017-03-10 18:44:54] <Freakworld> unless somebody needs to get tournaments or whatever off of their heart id be fine with moving on
  769. [2017-03-10 18:45:01] <Lord_Bowser> it would be better if we were all closer together
  770. [2017-03-10 18:45:08] <Freakworld> /10 sounds about right
  771. [2017-03-10 18:45:10] <Lord_Bowser> so no one has a massive advantage over others
  772. [2017-03-10 18:45:15] <Nyrie> y
  773. [2017-03-10 18:45:25] <meowth> 1215-0-0
  774. [2017-03-10 18:45:31] <meowth> 12i think this failed
  775. [2017-03-10 18:45:32] <Gabumon> 3remember: carry-over tokens should just be a bonus
  776. [2017-03-10 18:45:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4also, I do want to note one thing
  777. [2017-03-10 18:45:43] <Freakworld> a wasnt even an option on this poll
  778. [2017-03-10 18:45:48] <Freakworld> exactly Gabumon
  779. [2017-03-10 18:45:51] <Gabumon> 3the meat of whether you can afford prizes or not should come from your accomplishments that year
  780. [2017-03-10 18:45:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this isn't meant to sway a decision it's just a thing we should remember in consideration
  781. [2017-03-10 18:45:56] <Freakworld> a bonus not a strategy
  782. [2017-03-10 18:46:08] <Lord_Bowser> yeah per edo
  783. [2017-03-10 18:46:16] <Freakworld> thank you for seeing it that way as well
  784. [2017-03-10 18:46:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4a reason the walkazo donation was successful was because so many people had stockpiles of dispensable tokens that they weren't going to use
  785. [2017-03-10 18:46:23] <turb> per edo
  786. [2017-03-10 18:46:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if we are to go with something like the /10 at the end of each year
  787. [2017-03-10 18:46:28] <Toadbert> yeah if you participate in enough things you should be able to earn enough to buy top level prize right
  788. [2017-03-10 18:46:29] <Lord_Bowser> it gives people new to the awards a fair shot as well
  789. [2017-03-10 18:46:37] <Toadbert> and maybe win one or two
  790. [2017-03-10 18:46:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we will no longer be able to run that kind of donation run in that exact manner, we would have to do something else
  791. [2017-03-10 18:46:49] <Gabumon> 3no anton
  792. [2017-03-10 18:47:01] <Freakworld> i mean i hope we wont have to do something like that again
  793. [2017-03-10 18:47:05] <Gabumon> 3that would just mean an individual token can be worth more
  794. [2017-03-10 18:47:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4good point
  795. [2017-03-10 18:47:19] <DragonFreak> 6yeah that could be true
  796. [2017-03-10 18:47:34] <dia> i think we should make this a time delay plan, like announc a concrete plan with set details and stuff, to go into action next year, but
  797. [2017-03-10 18:47:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so we'll have to discuss that as well
  798. [2017-03-10 18:47:40] <Gabumon> 3like, if the numbers are small, we dont have to make up ridiculous exchange rates
  799. [2017-03-10 18:47:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4as of this moment 1 token is worth $0.12
  800. [2017-03-10 18:47:55] <dia> i dont know enough about the tokens and stuff to help with the details
  801. [2017-03-10 18:47:58] <Toadbert> that seems like a lot
  802. [2017-03-10 18:48:09] <Toadbert> but i have no expertise in this
  803. [2017-03-10 18:48:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's what we went with when we figured out the donation amount
  804. [2017-03-10 18:48:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it was based on an average of what the prizes were worth in USD to what they were listed as in tokens
  805. [2017-03-10 18:48:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it was fairly consistent along the list
  806. [2017-03-10 18:48:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4except for super expensive game packages that I purposely listed lower
  807. [2017-03-10 18:49:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4a decision on this would also affect how many tokens each tournament distributes, so we would have to rein that in as well
  808. [2017-03-10 18:49:41] <turb> oh, yeah
  809. [2017-03-10 18:49:43] <Freakworld> yes
  810. [2017-03-10 18:49:44] <turb> i was just about to mention that lol
  811. [2017-03-10 18:49:49] <Lord_Bowser> it should be slightly higher in that regard
  812. [2017-03-10 18:49:50] <dia> yeah i think the distributions have been kinda crazy
  813. [2017-03-10 18:49:53] <turb> tournament exchange rates need to be looked at
  814. [2017-03-10 18:49:57] <dia> but i dont pay attention enough to know what to target
  815. [2017-03-10 18:50:01] <Freakworld> also important
  816. [2017-03-10 18:50:09] <turb> distributions rather
  817. [2017-03-10 18:50:10] <Freakworld> make sure the hosts dont pay themselves the most tokens
  818. [2017-03-10 18:50:19] <Freakworld> i know for a fact icemario did this
  819. [2017-03-10 18:50:20] <Superchao> welcome to mario golf
  820. [2017-03-10 18:50:24] <turb> thanks icemari
  821. [2017-03-10 18:50:26] <turb> o
  822. [2017-03-10 18:50:26] <Superchao> hey, he paid me a buncha tokens
  823. [2017-03-10 18:50:28] <DragonFreak> 6you know i just thought of something, would it be possible/fair to have a uniform tournament token payout
  824. [2017-03-10 18:50:28] <Superchao> i ain't complaining
  825. [2017-03-10 18:50:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah after icemario did that we actively tried to do something about that last year
  826. [2017-03-10 18:50:37] <meowth> 12icemario golf
  827. [2017-03-10 18:50:41] <DragonFreak> 6like based on the number of players
  828. [2017-03-10 18:50:55] <turb> uniju offering 100 tokens to anyone who finds a game breaking bug in koth never forget
  829. [2017-03-10 18:50:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4uniform payout is difficult because certain games are more intensive than others
  830. [2017-03-10 18:50:57] <Freakworld> tournaments are like bitcoin mining so i guess a reward is good
  831. [2017-03-10 18:50:59] <Freakworld> but
  832. [2017-03-10 18:51:06] <Freakworld> you need limited quanitiy
  833. [2017-03-10 18:51:12] <Freakworld> to keep the economy stable
  834. [2017-03-10 18:51:16] <Toadbert> how do we do tournament tokens now
  835. [2017-03-10 18:51:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what we did last year was have the hosts request a total amount of tokens they wanted to be available to distribute
  836. [2017-03-10 18:51:18] <Freakworld> its the same principle
  837. [2017-03-10 18:51:22] <Toadbert> give them out after the tournament's done?
  838. [2017-03-10 18:51:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4talk among ourselves and OK it
  839. [2017-03-10 18:51:26] <Freakworld> if you bring in new tokens you need to regulate
  840. [2017-03-10 18:51:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and then give them to the host to distribute as they please
  841. [2017-03-10 18:51:37] <Toadbert> maybe we should wait for all tournaments to finish and THEN divvy them out
  842. [2017-03-10 18:51:40] <Freakworld> either prize prices or token influx
  843. [2017-03-10 18:51:59] <Meta_Knight> 10some tournaments get started way later than others
  844. [2017-03-10 18:52:00] <Freakworld> maybe tb
  845. [2017-03-10 18:52:08] <Meta_Knight> 10like didnt pokemon not start until like mid july
  846. [2017-03-10 18:52:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's a good idea to consider, tb
  847. [2017-03-10 18:52:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4they did, mk
  848. [2017-03-10 18:52:22] <Meta_Knight> 10because someone didnt have their team ready on time
  849. [2017-03-10 18:52:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that was another issue we tried to prevent and were mostly successful with last year
  850. [2017-03-10 18:52:29] <Freakworld> tokens being distributed not solely by the hosts might be an idea
  851. [2017-03-10 18:52:39] <Freakworld> dude minecraft games didnt start until like
  852. [2017-03-10 18:52:42] <Freakworld> september?
  853. [2017-03-10 18:52:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4mostly successful
  854. [2017-03-10 18:52:55] <turb> lol
  855. [2017-03-10 18:53:01] <turb> yeah i think it was sept or oct
  856. [2017-03-10 18:53:02] <Toadbert> : )
  857. [2017-03-10 18:53:02] <Meta_Knight> 10i know that fw
  858. [2017-03-10 18:53:07] <Freakworld> ok
  859. [2017-03-10 18:53:10] <Superchao> still a more reliable host than me
  860. [2017-03-10 18:53:12] <Uniju> it was late september
  861. [2017-03-10 18:53:14] <Lakituthequick> i don't think a host should get an exact amount to distribute per se
  862. [2017-03-10 18:53:16] <Uniju> like the 29th or something
  863. [2017-03-10 18:53:21] <Toadbert> i can tell you down to the second when we started
  864. [2017-03-10 18:53:24] <Toadbert> in my time
  865. [2017-03-10 18:53:34] <Freakworld> unix timestamp or gtfo
  866. [2017-03-10 18:53:47] <Toadbert> i prefer epoch time
  867. [2017-03-10 18:53:51] <Freakworld> lo
  868. [2017-03-10 18:54:11] <Toadbert> oh those are the same thing arent they
  869. [2017-03-10 18:54:23] <turb> yeah dummy
  870. [2017-03-10 18:54:25] <Freakworld> different format i believe
  871. [2017-03-10 18:54:35] <Toadbert> i dont use unix you better sit down turb
  872. [2017-03-10 18:54:39] <Lakituthequick> unix timestamp is seconds since the epoch right
  873. [2017-03-10 18:54:39] <Meta_Knight> 10oh
  874. [2017-03-10 18:54:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so I'll make a thread about this in the staff board as well
  875. [2017-03-10 18:54:41] <Meta_Knight> 10that reminded me
  876. [2017-03-10 18:54:44] <turb> oh yeah
  877. [2017-03-10 18:54:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4unless edo you would prefer it to be your thread
  878. [2017-03-10 18:54:47] <turb> i was gonna ask that too lol
  879. [2017-03-10 18:54:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4since it was primarily your idea that was supported
  880. [2017-03-10 18:54:54] <Meta_Knight> 10something i just thought about is that this year people might have switches
  881. [2017-03-10 18:54:54] <turb> if this was going to be discussed separately from the other token thing
  882. [2017-03-10 18:55:02] <shoutmon> 7only rich hipsters use unix
  883. [2017-03-10 18:55:06] <Lord_Bowser> yeah i mentioned that mk
  884. [2017-03-10 18:55:06] <Toadbert> me irl
  885. [2017-03-10 18:55:13] <Gabumon> 3I can make a thread
  886. [2017-03-10 18:55:15] <Meta_Knight> 10which there probably wont be anything multiplayer except mario kart 8
  887. [2017-03-10 18:55:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok
  888. [2017-03-10 18:55:21] <turb> splatoon 2 possibly
  889. [2017-03-10 18:55:26] <turb> that's something that needs to be talked about
  890. [2017-03-10 18:55:31] <Freakworld> now we can discuss whether linux counts as unix or not
  891. [2017-03-10 18:55:31] <Meta_Knight> 10depends on when that comes out but yeah
  892. [2017-03-10 18:55:33] <Lord_Bowser> would tourneys this year for say mk8 or splatoon be better on wii u or switch
  893. [2017-03-10 18:55:41] <turb> tournaments are basically just "do you want to host this and are you responsible" though
  894. [2017-03-10 18:55:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so re: tokens what the game plan is then is to determine a decay rate
  895. [2017-03-10 18:55:45] <Lord_Bowser> splatoon comes in summer
  896. [2017-03-10 18:55:46] <Toadbert> depebnds
  897. [2017-03-10 18:55:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and from there, after that is decided
  898. [2017-03-10 18:55:54] <Freakworld> it doesnt technically but then again none of the current unixes are unix
  899. [2017-03-10 18:55:56] <Freakworld> so
  900. [2017-03-10 18:56:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we can take care of the less consequential details of tokens
  901. [2017-03-10 18:56:02] <turb> it might be appropriate to have a mk8 tournament for wii u still as the switch is new and not that many people will have it
  902. [2017-03-10 18:56:05] <turb> and yeah that sounds good
  903. [2017-03-10 18:56:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4such as how hosts distribute them
  904. [2017-03-10 18:56:07] <turb> @anton
  905. [2017-03-10 18:56:13] <Superchao> i'm down for that
  906. [2017-03-10 18:56:18] <DragonFreak> 6i feel like anyone who hasnt bought a switch yet is probably going to wait for mk8/splatoon or holidays so i guess hard to tell lb
  907. [2017-03-10 18:56:20] <Freakworld> i mean Lakituthequick had an interesting idea about mk8 i think
  908. [2017-03-10 18:56:23] <Freakworld> was it you
  909. [2017-03-10 18:56:29] <Lakituthequick> it was me
  910. [2017-03-10 18:56:35] <Meta_Knight> 10has nintendo confirmed any intentions of shutting down nintendo network for wii u yet
  911. [2017-03-10 18:56:40] <Freakworld> the one with seperated race and battle tournaments?
  912. [2017-03-10 18:56:41] <Lakituthequick> normal races on wii u
  913. [2017-03-10 18:56:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other giant topics of discussion anyone feels we need to address this year?
  914. [2017-03-10 18:56:44] <Freakworld> ok
  915. [2017-03-10 18:56:46] <Lakituthequick> battles on switch
  916. [2017-03-10 18:56:50] <Freakworld> i fully support that
  917. [2017-03-10 18:56:54] <Meta_Knight> 10thats a good idea
  918. [2017-03-10 18:56:55] <Lord_Bowser> oh yeah that could work as well
  919. [2017-03-10 18:57:00] <Toadbert> are we still trying to cut back on awards in general
  920. [2017-03-10 18:57:02] <Toadbert> or just userpedia
  921. [2017-03-10 18:57:03] <Freakworld> mk not that i know
  922. [2017-03-10 18:57:11] <Superchao> i don't think we need to look into cutting mario/fail yet
  923. [2017-03-10 18:57:14] <Freakworld> but i suppose theyll phase it out
  924. [2017-03-10 18:57:16] <Superchao> since we're alreadyd ropping to 60
  925. [2017-03-10 18:57:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4an issue in the last few years was finding enough people to do presentations
  926. [2017-03-10 18:57:26] <Toadbert> yeah
  927. [2017-03-10 18:57:26] <Freakworld> since switch online isnt based on nintendo network anymore
  928. [2017-03-10 18:57:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the shroom/user merger is one way to counter that
  929. [2017-03-10 18:57:31] <turb> well, theres things that can be brought up individually if we feel awards are weak
  930. [2017-03-10 18:57:37] <Lakituthequick> i'm planning on doing some backup this year again at least
  931. [2017-03-10 18:57:39] <turb> but the merger was the big thing
  932. [2017-03-10 18:57:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4as well as adding a conditional within AC membership to at least have the intention on doing at least one
  933. [2017-03-10 18:57:43] <Lakituthequick> and more normal as well
  934. [2017-03-10 18:57:45] <turb> as far as i know
  935. [2017-03-10 18:57:46] <Superchao> well, enforcing an AC = presentation
  936. [2017-03-10 18:57:51] <Superchao> gives us 30% coverage immediately
  937. [2017-03-10 18:58:03] <Anton{Politoed}> 4not a forced requirement, but, at least having been intended on doing one
  938. [2017-03-10 18:58:09] <turb> i need to figure out how to make an actually funny presentation this year
  939. [2017-03-10 18:58:10] <turb> goals
  940. [2017-03-10 18:58:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i don't wanna ralph it
  941. [2017-03-10 18:58:14] <Gabumon> 3question
  942. [2017-03-10 18:58:23] <Superchao> and yeah, probably we can cut weak awards and then decide to shrink or stay at 60 as a result
  943. [2017-03-10 18:58:23] <Lakituthequick> answer
  944. [2017-03-10 18:58:28] <Gabumon> 3does signing up for backup count as that mandatory presentation?
  945. [2017-03-10 18:58:38] <Gabumon> 3I would say yes
  946. [2017-03-10 18:58:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah that would cover it
  947. [2017-03-10 18:59:03] <DragonFreak> 6backups are probably almost always going to be used
  948. [2017-03-10 18:59:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's always backups even if every slot is filled because there's always going to be at least one person who has an emergency and can't complete theirs
  949. [2017-03-10 18:59:26] <Lakituthequick> cut the 'almost', its more or less guaranteed
  950. [2017-03-10 18:59:35] <Anton{Politoed}> 4such as me about 5 years ago when I was suddenly trapped in florida with no internet for all of july
  951. [2017-03-10 18:59:46] <Meta_Knight> 10that sounds scary
  952. [2017-03-10 18:59:52] <Lakituthequick> oh no
  953. [2017-03-10 18:59:55] <Lakituthequick> no florida
  954. [2017-03-10 18:59:58] <Lakituthequick> *not
  955. [2017-03-10 19:00:11] <Lord_Bowser> bugs bunny sawing off florida.gif
  956. [2017-03-10 19:00:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but yeah as for cutting other awards
  957. [2017-03-10 19:00:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4at least with our preliminary glazing-over
  958. [2017-03-10 19:00:34] <DragonFreak> 6brb
  959. [2017-03-10 19:00:40] <Superchao> glazing-over sounds delicious
  960. [2017-03-10 19:00:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4turb and I didn't really see too many awards, barring the merger conditions, that really need to be chopped off
  961. [2017-03-10 19:01:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's a few, sure, but last year we covered a lot of those hefty changes
  962. [2017-03-10 19:01:15] <turb> yeah
  963. [2017-03-10 19:01:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4if that's it for giant ideas proposed right now, I can get ready to start Mario Awards
  964. [2017-03-10 19:01:49] <Freakworld> #saveu7
  965. [2017-03-10 19:01:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4keep in mind that giant ideas can be proposed at any time, so it's not like this is the last call
  966. [2017-03-10 19:02:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4just the most convenient time to do so
  967. [2017-03-10 19:02:03] <DragonFreak> 6back
  968. [2017-03-10 19:02:08] <Freakworld> wb
  969. [2017-03-10 19:02:21] <DragonFreak> 6thanks fw
  970. [2017-03-10 19:02:26] <Freakworld> np
  971. [2017-03-10 19:02:39] <Nyrie> i wonder if i can make a good presentation this year
  972. [2017-03-10 19:03:20] <Meta_Knight> 10just making a note im likely not going to be able to do nearly as many presentations as i did last year
  973. [2017-03-10 19:03:28] <Meta_Knight> 10but i'll definitely do one possibly 2
  974. [2017-03-10 19:03:31] <Toadbert> nyrie youre gonna get to the point where anyone would give up
  975. [2017-03-10 19:03:35] <DragonFreak> 6it's ok mk you did poochy's work
  976. [2017-03-10 19:03:38] <Toadbert> and youll keep doing it
  977. [2017-03-10 19:03:46] <Superchao> i don't know yet if i'll be able to do more than on
  978. [2017-03-10 19:03:50] <turb> is htis a metaphor for the comic
  979. [2017-03-10 19:03:52] <Superchao> but i can at least do the one
  980. [2017-03-10 19:03:56] <Toadbert> maybe
  981. [2017-03-10 19:03:58] <Superchao> just don't expect qualiy
  982. [2017-03-10 19:04:00] <Superchao> *quality
  983. [2017-03-10 19:04:03] <Toadbert> idk if i want to do one thats as long this year
  984. [2017-03-10 19:04:05] <turb> also fwiw i am ok with moving on to mario
  985. [2017-03-10 19:04:08] <Freakworld> i already have a very good plan on one presentation and i can probably do a bunch more like last year
  986. [2017-03-10 19:04:10] <meowth> 12i probably wont be able to do more than one
  987. [2017-03-10 19:04:12] <Lord_Bowser> i'll definitely be able to do one and most likely two
  988. [2017-03-10 19:04:17] <turb> but obviously theres more than just me here lol
  989. [2017-03-10 19:04:29] <meowth> 12i'm ready for mario
  990. [2017-03-10 19:04:32] <Nyrie> i actually know how to use photoshop now so i can use that
  991. [2017-03-10 19:04:40] <meowth> 12letsago
  992. [2017-03-10 19:04:41] <Lord_Bowser> give us mario
  993. [2017-03-10 19:04:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4alright so we're gonna move on to Mario Awards now
  994. [2017-03-10 19:04:57] <Freakworld> mario odyssey for best upcoming game
  995. [2017-03-10 19:04:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4please refer again to https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKs8Rz9QsrkL88EfSI-HAGwSoNQDZT8Tt6MHMDJAFVI/edit if you aren't already
  996. [2017-03-10 19:05:06] <Nyrie> happy mar10 day
  997. [2017-03-10 19:05:12] <Freakworld> its mar11
  998. [2017-03-10 19:05:13] <DragonFreak> 6best upcoming games doesnt exist anymore
  999. [2017-03-10 19:05:16] <Meta_Knight> 10but is there anything else for upcoming game
  1000. [2017-03-10 19:05:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4additionally these for added insight:
  1001. [2017-03-10 19:05:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ZwYpnz5khaQGPM7UFzDVblQ1qgzqSUoeatzKoo_5jY/edit#gid=0
  1002. [2017-03-10 19:05:21] <Gabumon> 3lets stay in order
  1003. [2017-03-10 19:05:28] <Freakworld> we removed it due to there not being enough games
  1004. [2017-03-10 19:05:28] <Meta_Knight> 10okay
  1005. [2017-03-10 19:05:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yL47QoJ30K51pFmRyvdEpZ0g1ulv5t6gLBQqHE_LBws/edit#heading=h.k5s46cp7zk9n
  1006. [2017-03-10 19:05:38] <Freakworld> might change this year
  1007. [2017-03-10 19:05:41] <Freakworld> well cover that later
  1008. [2017-03-10 19:05:42] <meowth> 12put in odyssey five times
  1009. [2017-03-10 19:05:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and also these:
  1010. [2017-03-10 19:05:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Category:2016_games
  1011. [2017-03-10 19:05:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Category:2017_games
  1012. [2017-03-10 19:06:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there are a few games within those that we will need to factor in to the awards
  1013. [2017-03-10 19:06:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Party:_Star_Rush
  1014. [2017-03-10 19:06:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario_Run
  1015. [2017-03-10 19:06:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Paper_Mario:_Color_Splash
  1016. [2017-03-10 19:06:27] <Nyrie> color splash right
  1017. [2017-03-10 19:06:29] <Nyrie> oh
  1018. [2017-03-10 19:06:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_8_Deluxe
  1019. [2017-03-10 19:06:41] <Gabumon> 3I have no recollection of how either of these sound
  1020. [2017-03-10 19:06:46] <Lord_Bowser> color splash could maybe make it into sound design
  1021. [2017-03-10 19:06:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Sports_Superstars
  1022. [2017-03-10 19:06:55] <Lord_Bowser> a lot of people liked its ost
  1023. [2017-03-10 19:06:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Poochy_%26_Yoshi%27s_Woolly_World
  1024. [2017-03-10 19:07:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4those are all of the games that either came out or will be coming out from the last polling to this year's polling
  1025. [2017-03-10 19:07:15] <DragonFreak> 6is there a cutest award and can poochy and yoshi's woolly world win it
  1026. [2017-03-10 19:07:16] <Nyrie> color splash seems like a damn good contender
  1027. [2017-03-10 19:07:22] <Freakworld> per
  1028. [2017-03-10 19:07:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Super Mario Odyssey will be in 2018's jurisdiction
  1029. [2017-03-10 19:07:29] <Superchao> suddenly, my lack of paying attention to recent mario games bites me in the ass
  1030. [2017-03-10 19:07:40] <Freakworld> dont put in super mario run that game has no original ost
  1031. [2017-03-10 19:07:42] <Nyrie> the others i dont think matter
  1032. [2017-03-10 19:07:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but yeah first up is Best Sound Design
  1033. [2017-03-10 19:07:52] <Lord_Bowser> it's okay perch i have none of those
  1034. [2017-03-10 19:07:52] <Toadbert> how can we put off odyssey until later when we have this fanfiction about it already
  1035. [2017-03-10 19:07:53] <meowth> 12what about smm 3ds as far as new games for new awards
  1036. [2017-03-10 19:07:53] <Nyrie> definitely not superstars, that has a shit ost
  1037. [2017-03-10 19:07:59] <meowth> 12i also have none of these
  1038. [2017-03-10 19:08:06] <Nyrie> poochy has the same ost as the wii u version
  1039. [2017-03-10 19:08:11] <Superchao> the comic just goes in best user fiction, duh
  1040. [2017-03-10 19:08:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario 64, Super Mario World, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Super Paper Mario, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy’s Kong Quest, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8,
  1041. [2017-03-10 19:08:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
  1042. [2017-03-10 19:08:19] <Superchao> anyhow, i have not listened to a single track from any of those games
  1043. [2017-03-10 19:08:23] <Superchao> so i cannot help for this one
  1044. [2017-03-10 19:08:23] <DragonFreak> 6yeah we should add color splash
  1045. [2017-03-10 19:08:25] <Superchao> sorry
  1046. [2017-03-10 19:08:28] <Nyrie> would mk8d replace color splash
  1047. [2017-03-10 19:08:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4there are currently 15 nominees
  1048. [2017-03-10 19:08:31] <Nyrie> shit
  1049. [2017-03-10 19:08:33] <Nyrie> i mean
  1050. [2017-03-10 19:08:34] <Lord_Bowser> +color splash
  1051. [2017-03-10 19:08:34] <Nyrie> mk8*****
  1052. [2017-03-10 19:08:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4our soft upper limit for awards is 15
  1053. [2017-03-10 19:08:39] <turb> question
  1054. [2017-03-10 19:08:41] <turb> oh ok
  1055. [2017-03-10 19:08:43] <turb> that was my question
  1056. [2017-03-10 19:08:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4with 18 being the hard limit
  1057. [2017-03-10 19:08:46] <Gamefreak75> mk8 is on there already
  1058. [2017-03-10 19:08:49] <meowth> 12Mario Kart 8/Deluxe
  1059. [2017-03-10 19:08:49] <DragonFreak> 6how much is in this award already
  1060. [2017-03-10 19:08:50] <turb> if we were still adhering to the limits LOL
  1061. [2017-03-10 19:08:53] <Gamefreak75> just name it mk8/deluxe
  1062. [2017-03-10 19:08:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4any more than 15 would need to be justified
  1063. [2017-03-10 19:08:54] <Freakworld> id say so nyrie, or maybe add 8/deluxe
  1064. [2017-03-10 19:08:54] <turb> i'm a good subdirector
  1065. [2017-03-10 19:08:54] <Superchao> 15
  1066. [2017-03-10 19:08:56] <Nyrie> oh yeah
  1067. [2017-03-10 19:09:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4+more so than anything up until 15
  1068. [2017-03-10 19:09:10] <Nyrie> i mean deluxe just has a few extra tracks for the battle stuff so
  1069. [2017-03-10 19:09:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 15) Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island — 51 — 1.92% 16) O. Super Mario Sunshine — 12 — 0.45%
  1070. [2017-03-10 19:09:20] <Lakituthequick> do we have a 'results from last year' sheet by any chanc?
  1071. [2017-03-10 19:09:22] <Nyrie> tracks as in music tracks
  1072. [2017-03-10 19:09:23] <meowth> 12whats the lowest scoring nominee from last ye----
  1073. [2017-03-10 19:09:25] <DragonFreak> 6ok so we could add cs without removing anything
  1074. [2017-03-10 19:09:30] <Gabumon> 3if there's good music in one of the new games it should definitely be added
  1075. [2017-03-10 19:09:31] <Gamefreak75> rip smw2 :(
  1076. [2017-03-10 19:09:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's the lowest polling solid nominee, and the highest write-in
  1077. [2017-03-10 19:09:35] <DragonFreak> 6how did yoshi's island get only 15
  1078. [2017-03-10 19:09:40] <Gabumon> 3even at the expense of an older entry if necessary
  1079. [2017-03-10 19:09:43] <DragonFreak> 6with that last boss battle
  1080. [2017-03-10 19:09:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it got 51
  1081. [2017-03-10 19:09:50] <DragonFreak> 6i blame you lb
  1082. [2017-03-10 19:09:50] <Gamefreak75> 51
  1083. [2017-03-10 19:09:57] <Superchao> what's the gap between 14 and 15
  1084. [2017-03-10 19:09:58] <Lakituthequick> also i listened to colour splash music its pretty good
  1085. [2017-03-10 19:10:03] <Lord_Bowser> i would remove yi
  1086. [2017-03-10 19:10:04] <Freakworld> oh the fuck did yi lose again
  1087. [2017-03-10 19:10:05] <meowth> 12i dont know any of the osts but ive heard good things about color splashes
  1088. [2017-03-10 19:10:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 14) Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam — 72 — 2.71%
  1089. [2017-03-10 19:10:08] <Freakworld> *how
  1090. [2017-03-10 19:10:10] <Superchao> eessh
  1091. [2017-03-10 19:10:11] <Lord_Bowser> also what did i do doof >:(
  1092. [2017-03-10 19:10:15] <meowth> 1221 votes
  1093. [2017-03-10 19:10:17] <Freakworld> id rather remove paper jam
  1094. [2017-03-10 19:10:19] <meowth> 12thats not small
  1095. [2017-03-10 19:10:20] <Nyrie> color splash's ost is fantastic
  1096. [2017-03-10 19:10:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't think anything needs to be removed
  1097. [2017-03-10 19:10:28] <DragonFreak> 6you didnt harness your bowser enough for yi to win or something
  1098. [2017-03-10 19:10:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's my opinion though
  1099. [2017-03-10 19:10:35] <DragonFreak> 6i dont think so either
  1100. [2017-03-10 19:10:38] <Gamefreak75> maybe we can make an exception
  1101. [2017-03-10 19:10:41] <Nyrie> and the overall sound design is pretty great as well
  1102. [2017-03-10 19:10:42] <Freakworld> i mean im pretty sure i voted for yoshis island on best sound design lol
  1103. [2017-03-10 19:10:42] <Gamefreak75> and make this poll 16
  1104. [2017-03-10 19:10:44] <Gamefreak75> nominees
  1105. [2017-03-10 19:10:44] <turb> yeah nothing stands out to me as a removal
  1106. [2017-03-10 19:10:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'd be fine with that
  1107. [2017-03-10 19:10:53] <turb> 18 is our hard limit so im fine with it
  1108. [2017-03-10 19:10:54] <meowth> 12i can live with sixteen on this
  1109. [2017-03-10 19:10:57] <Nyrie> yeah dont remove anything just add cs
  1110. [2017-03-10 19:11:00] <Superchao> i'd be ok with that
  1111. [2017-03-10 19:11:00] <Freakworld> per
  1112. [2017-03-10 19:11:01] <Gamefreak75> probably would be like one of the only polls for this
  1113. [2017-03-10 19:11:01] <Lord_Bowser> yeah nothing really desperately needs to be cut
  1114. [2017-03-10 19:11:02] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah yoshi's island has a really good ost and has a distinct style
  1115. [2017-03-10 19:11:04] <Gamefreak75> 16 nominees
  1116. [2017-03-10 19:11:06] <Lord_Bowser> just add cs
  1117. [2017-03-10 19:11:07] <Meta_Knight> 10i wouldnt want to remove it
  1118. [2017-03-10 19:11:15] <Superchao> i've always felt that A1 and A30 are okay to make large
  1119. [2017-03-10 19:11:17] <Superchao> A29 too
  1120. [2017-03-10 19:11:19] <turb> add cs and slap on deluxe to mk8?
  1121. [2017-03-10 19:11:21] <Superchao> since they're big dals
  1122. [2017-03-10 19:11:23] <Superchao> *deals
  1123. [2017-03-10 19:11:29] <Nyrie> oh yeah, per turb as well
  1124. [2017-03-10 19:11:29] <Meta_Knight> 10sounds good to me
  1125. [2017-03-10 19:11:31] <turb> deluxe will be out by the time polls happen so
  1126. [2017-03-10 19:11:32] <Nyrie> put deluxe on there
  1127. [2017-03-10 19:11:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Paper Mario: Color Splash" to M1? (Y/N/A)
  1128. [2017-03-10 19:11:33] <Superchao> y
  1129. [2017-03-10 19:11:34] <Gamefreak75> i think we dont need a vote on the latter
  1130. [2017-03-10 19:11:35] <turb> Y
  1131. [2017-03-10 19:11:36] <Nyrie> y
  1132. [2017-03-10 19:11:36] <Superchao> y
  1133. [2017-03-10 19:11:37] <Lord_Bowser> y
  1134. [2017-03-10 19:11:38] <Gamefreak75> y
  1135. [2017-03-10 19:11:38] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  1136. [2017-03-10 19:11:39] <Freakworld> y
  1137. [2017-03-10 19:11:40] <dia> y
  1138. [2017-03-10 19:11:40] <Gabumon> 3a
  1139. [2017-03-10 19:11:40] <DragonFreak> 6y
  1140. [2017-03-10 19:11:42] <Mariofan169> y
  1141. [2017-03-10 19:11:47] <Lakituthequick> y
  1142. [2017-03-10 19:11:48] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it is added
  1143. [2017-03-10 19:11:53] <Freakworld> ye
  1144. [2017-03-10 19:11:56] <Lord_Bowser> woo
  1145. [2017-03-10 19:11:59] <DragonFreak> 6wait no anton we have to let smasher make it offiical
  1146. [2017-03-10 19:12:01] <Superchao> meowth:
  1147. [2017-03-10 19:12:17] <Lord_Bowser> mEOWTH
  1148. [2017-03-10 19:12:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the world is waiting our decision
  1149. [2017-03-10 19:12:29] <meowth> 12y
  1150. [2017-03-10 19:12:35] <Freakworld> o shit waddup
  1151. [2017-03-10 19:12:36] <meowth> 12one second
  1152. [2017-03-10 19:12:45] <DragonFreak> 6you know that typing of lowercase and then all uppercase really bothers me for some reason
  1153. [2017-03-10 19:12:55] <meowth> 1213-0-1
  1154. [2017-03-10 19:13:02] <meowth> 12ive saved the day again
  1155. [2017-03-10 19:13:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4wii did it
  1156. [2017-03-10 19:13:08] <Freakworld> sTiLl bEtTeR tHaN tHiS
  1157. [2017-03-10 19:13:10] <Mariofan169> MeOWtH
  1158. [2017-03-10 19:13:10] <Lord_Bowser> hooray
  1159. [2017-03-10 19:13:19] * DragonFreak 6dies
  1160. [2017-03-10 19:13:26] <Lakituthequick> :partypopper:
  1161. [2017-03-10 19:13:28] <DragonFreak> 6smasher is the true hero of the awards
  1162. [2017-03-10 19:13:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what's this about deluxe though
  1163. [2017-03-10 19:13:44] <DragonFreak> 6oh change mk8 into mk8/deluxe
  1164. [2017-03-10 19:13:46] <Freakworld> basically make mario kart 8/deluxe
  1165. [2017-03-10 19:13:47] <meowth> 12just changing mk8 to mk8/deluxe
  1166. [2017-03-10 19:13:47] <Lakituthequick> well its got all of mk8's music
  1167. [2017-03-10 19:13:49] <Nyrie> change "Mario Kart 8" into "Mario Kart 8 (Deluxe)"
  1168. [2017-03-10 19:13:51] <Lakituthequick> + a few new ones
  1169. [2017-03-10 19:13:58] <Nyrie> or /Deluxe
  1170. [2017-03-10 19:13:59] <Lord_Bowser> yeah i'm for that
  1171. [2017-03-10 19:14:00] <Nyrie> either works
  1172. [2017-03-10 19:14:04] <meowth> 12because its the same game with a few additions
  1173. [2017-03-10 19:14:05] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok the "+ a few new ones" justifies it
  1174. [2017-03-10 19:14:05] <Freakworld> per nyries wording on this
  1175. [2017-03-10 19:14:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because if it was just the same then who cares
  1176. [2017-03-10 19:14:16] <Lord_Bowser> mk8dx alone is far too small
  1177. [2017-03-10 19:14:56] <Mariofan169> so I guess we're updating mk8 to deluxe in all awards then
  1178. [2017-03-10 19:14:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4let's look briefly at the list to see if there's a standard for including basically two games in one
  1179. [2017-03-10 19:15:00] <Mariofan169> I'm fine with that
  1180. [2017-03-10 19:15:08] <Freakworld> i guess so as well
  1181. [2017-03-10 19:15:24] <meowth> 12its like always ___/___ iirc
  1182. [2017-03-10 19:15:30] <meowth> 12but i could be wrong
  1183. [2017-03-10 19:15:40] <Nyrie> "Donkey Kong (Game Boy)/Mario vs. Donkey Kong (GBA)"
  1184. [2017-03-10 19:15:43] <Mariofan169> I don't think 64 ds had any new tracks
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  1186. [2017-03-10 19:15:47] <Freakworld> mario kart 8 + mario kart 8 deluxe
  1187. [2017-03-10 19:15:49] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U"
  1188. [2017-03-10 19:15:51] <Freakworld> shoey.
  1189. [2017-03-10 19:15:53] <meowth> 12i cant look at the list easily because google docs detests me
  1190. [2017-03-10 19:15:55] <Lakituthequick> M3: Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS
  1191. [2017-03-10 19:15:55] <Nyrie> "Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2 and onwards)"
  1192. [2017-03-10 19:15:58] <Mariofan169> besides some songs from sunshine
  1193. [2017-03-10 19:16:00] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> Freakworld
  1194. [2017-03-10 19:16:07] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> so what are talking about right now
  1195. [2017-03-10 19:16:08] <shoutmon> 764ds did had new tracks
  1196. [2017-03-10 19:16:16] <Freakworld> change mk8
  1197. [2017-03-10 19:16:17] <Freakworld> into
  1198. [2017-03-10 19:16:19] <Superchao> it had a couple, iirc
  1199. [2017-03-10 19:16:20] <Freakworld> mk8deluxe
  1200. [2017-03-10 19:16:23] <Lord_Bowser> yeah the minigames
  1201. [2017-03-10 19:16:25] <Freakworld> on a1
  1202. [2017-03-10 19:16:25] <shoutmon> 7the sunshine stage had the delphino plaza music, and there were minigames with original music
  1203. [2017-03-10 19:16:32] <Freakworld> or m1
  1204. [2017-03-10 19:16:38] <Mariofan169> we can update that then
  1205. [2017-03-10 19:16:40] <Freakworld> are we calling them m now
  1206. [2017-03-10 19:16:41] <Freakworld> i forgot
  1207. [2017-03-10 19:16:42] <turb> tfw still calling it a1
  1208. [2017-03-10 19:16:44] <Meta_Knight> 10the problem with having it be just deluxe fw is that not everyone will have mk8 deluxe
  1209. [2017-03-10 19:16:44] <meowth> 12y
  1210. [2017-03-10 19:16:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm seeing no dissent in including Deluxe in so it's just figuring out the naming
  1211. [2017-03-10 19:16:46] <turb> yeah its m now
  1212. [2017-03-10 19:16:48] <Freakworld> ok
  1213. [2017-03-10 19:16:59] <Nyrie> i think "Mario Kart 8 / Mario Kart 8 Deluxe"
  1214. [2017-03-10 19:17:01] <Nyrie> is good
  1215. [2017-03-10 19:17:05] <Lord_Bowser> per nyrie
  1216. [2017-03-10 19:17:07] <Superchao> i totally forgot it's m now
  1217. [2017-03-10 19:17:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah that follows the standard
  1218. [2017-03-10 19:17:09] <Lakituthequick> "Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe"
  1219. [2017-03-10 19:17:14] <Freakworld> me too lol
  1220. [2017-03-10 19:17:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4unless we want to change that standard
  1221. [2017-03-10 19:17:22] <Freakworld> i colloquially still use a
  1222. [2017-03-10 19:17:24] <Nyrie> it's fine by me
  1223. [2017-03-10 19:17:25] <Superchao> i like the standard
  1224. [2017-03-10 19:17:26] <Lord_Bowser> i think it's fine as is
  1225. [2017-03-10 19:17:27] <Gabumon> 3standard is fine
  1226. [2017-03-10 19:17:31] <turb> standard is ok
  1227. [2017-03-10 19:17:33] <meowth> 12this is fine
  1228. [2017-03-10 19:17:35] <Freakworld> voting time
  1229. [2017-03-10 19:17:37] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> what award are you talking about
  1230. [2017-03-10 19:17:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Change "Mario Kart 8" to "Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe"? (Y/N/A)
  1231. [2017-03-10 19:17:40] <Freakworld> y
  1232. [2017-03-10 19:17:40] <meowth> 12y
  1233. [2017-03-10 19:17:41] <Nyrie> y
  1234. [2017-03-10 19:17:41] <turb> y
  1235. [2017-03-10 19:17:42] <Lord_Bowser> y
  1236. [2017-03-10 19:17:42] <Lakituthequick> y
  1237. [2017-03-10 19:17:43] <Gabumon> 3y
  1238. [2017-03-10 19:17:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M1 Best Sound Design
  1239. [2017-03-10 19:17:47] <Mariofan169> y
  1240. [2017-03-10 19:17:48] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> y
  1241. [2017-03-10 19:17:56] <meowth> 129-0-0
  1242. [2017-03-10 19:17:56] <shoutmon> 7y
  1243. [2017-03-10 19:17:57] <DragonFreak> 6y
  1244. [2017-03-10 19:17:59] <Meta_Knight> 10y
  1245. [2017-03-10 19:18:02] <Superchao> y
  1246. [2017-03-10 19:18:03] <meowth> 1212-0-0
  1247. [2017-03-10 19:18:06] <meowth> 1213-0-0
  1248. [2017-03-10 19:18:07] <Gamefreak75> y
  1249. [2017-03-10 19:18:09] <Mariofan169> though "mario kart 8/deluxe sounds less clunky imo
  1250. [2017-03-10 19:18:11] <meowth> 1214-0-0
  1251. [2017-03-10 19:18:20] <Freakworld> yeah but its wrong
  1252. [2017-03-10 19:18:32] <Freakworld> its mario kart 8 or mario kart deluxe
  1253. [2017-03-10 19:18:33] <Nyrie> some kid would think that there's a mk game just called "deluxe"
  1254. [2017-03-10 19:18:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah it sounds cynical and bad but
  1255. [2017-03-10 19:18:49] <Lord_Bowser> better to be specific imo
  1256. [2017-03-10 19:18:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we have to run with the assumption that the voter has no clue what they're voting on
  1257. [2017-03-10 19:18:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we have to be specific
  1258. [2017-03-10 19:19:02] <Freakworld> the du
  1259. [2017-03-10 19:19:07] <Freakworld> dumbest user
  1260. [2017-03-10 19:19:09] <meowth> 12"what is mario?"
  1261. [2017-03-10 19:19:13] <Freakworld> or rather dpu
  1262. [2017-03-10 19:19:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4you won't believe the write-ins we dump
  1263. [2017-03-10 19:19:18] <Freakworld> dumbest possible user
  1264. [2017-03-10 19:19:22] <Nyrie> votes for 3d world for best game
  1265. [2017-03-10 19:19:23] <Lakituthequick> can you eat peach?
  1266. [2017-03-10 19:19:36] <turb> yeah you guys should see the tallying sometime
  1267. [2017-03-10 19:19:39] <Nyrie> can you eat perch
  1268. [2017-03-10 19:19:43] <Lord_Bowser> is bowser a boy or a girl
  1269. [2017-03-10 19:19:43] <Mariofan169> "can you smell daisy?"
  1270. [2017-03-10 19:19:45] <Superchao> wtf nyrie
  1271. [2017-03-10 19:19:51] <Freakworld> kek
  1272. [2017-03-10 19:19:54] <Superchao> i'm not for dinner :I
  1273. [2017-03-10 19:19:58] <turb> or just read the bloopers
  1274. [2017-03-10 19:20:00] <Lakituthequick> indeed
  1275. [2017-03-10 19:20:02] <Freakworld> i wonder whats for dinner
  1276. [2017-03-10 19:20:04] <Superchao> the bloopers give me life
  1277. [2017-03-10 19:20:06] <Lakituthequick> youre for breakfast instead
  1278. [2017-03-10 19:20:07] <meowth> 12the bloopers are a fun time
  1279. [2017-03-10 19:20:09] <DragonFreak> 6[20:19] Nyrie votes for 3d world for best game
  1280. [2017-03-10 19:20:11] <DragonFreak> 6could argue for best soundtrack imo
  1281. [2017-03-10 19:20:12] <Nyrie> bloopers are the best award
  1282. [2017-03-10 19:20:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other decisions to be made re: M1 Best Sound Design?
  1283. [2017-03-10 19:20:15] <Nyrie> no
  1284. [2017-03-10 19:20:16] <Superchao> Fuck-Ass Bitch Kong is still one of my all-time favorites
  1285. [2017-03-10 19:20:24] <meowth> 12Smasher's Dial-Up Kong
  1286. [2017-03-10 19:20:25] <Nyrie> oh god good ol' FABK
  1287. [2017-03-10 19:20:25] <Meta_Knight> 10m1 is good now
  1288. [2017-03-10 19:20:31] <turb> i'm good with m1 myself
  1289. [2017-03-10 19:20:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4keep in mind that as the upcoming games are released we will look back over them
  1290. [2017-03-10 19:20:34] <Lord_Bowser> m1 is fine yeah
  1291. [2017-03-10 19:20:36] <meowth> 12of course thats our own fault
  1292. [2017-03-10 19:20:37] <Superchao> it's *thumbsup* ALL GOOD
  1293. [2017-03-10 19:20:38] <meowth> 12move on
  1294. [2017-03-10 19:20:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and we also go over the entire list like 3 separate times
  1295. [2017-03-10 19:20:45] <Nyrie> can we add Super Mario Arms
  1296. [2017-03-10 19:20:47] <DragonFreak> 6ok i went back to make sure 3dw was in there and it is so im good
  1297. [2017-03-10 19:20:59] <Mariofan169> super mario 1 2 switch
  1298. [2017-03-10 19:21:04] <meowth> 12Favorite Upcoming Game: Arms
  1299. [2017-03-10 19:21:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next up:
  1300. [2017-03-10 19:21:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M2 Favorite Mario Kart Game (Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, Mario Kart 8)
  1301. [2017-03-10 19:21:15] <Gabumon> 3do the same shit we just did
  1302. [2017-03-10 19:21:17] <Freakworld> legend of zelda mario dlc
  1303. [2017-03-10 19:21:18] <meowth> 128 to deluxe
  1304. [2017-03-10 19:21:19] <DragonFreak> 68)
  1305. [2017-03-10 19:21:20] <meowth> 12done
  1306. [2017-03-10 19:21:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4including deluxe as per M1 is a given
  1307. [2017-03-10 19:21:21] <Nyrie> Mario Kart 8)
  1308. [2017-03-10 19:21:22] |<-- mcd has left irc.darkmyst.org (Quit: z)
  1309. [2017-03-10 19:21:28] <Lord_Bowser> besides dx nothing needs to be changed
  1310. [2017-03-10 19:21:32] <Meta_Knight> 10thats really all that has to be done
  1311. [2017-03-10 19:21:33] <Superchao> mcd was here?
  1312. [2017-03-10 19:21:33] <Nyrie> would deluxe be seperate though
  1313. [2017-03-10 19:21:40] <turb> is it worth making it separate
  1314. [2017-03-10 19:21:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's a good point
  1315. [2017-03-10 19:21:42] <Freakworld> per
  1316. [2017-03-10 19:21:43] <Nyrie> would anyone like regular mk8 more
  1317. [2017-03-10 19:21:47] <Freakworld> dont think about readding arcade
  1318. [2017-03-10 19:21:50] <Nyrie> deluxe is the same game with more content
  1319. [2017-03-10 19:21:52] <Freakworld> everything is fine here
  1320. [2017-03-10 19:21:53] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but then again
  1321. [2017-03-10 19:22:04] <Anton{Politoed}> 4SSB 3DS / Wii U are slammed together
  1322. [2017-03-10 19:22:06] <turb> i mean it's different enough from slapping it on to soundtrakc since there are gameplay differences but
  1323. [2017-03-10 19:22:07] <turb> yeah
  1324. [2017-03-10 19:22:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and they have A LOT of different shit
  1325. [2017-03-10 19:22:13] <turb> thats why id be ok with slamming them together
  1326. [2017-03-10 19:22:13] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> I agree wth keepting them togethe
  1327. [2017-03-10 19:22:14] <meowth> 12i dont really see a need to make it separate myself
  1328. [2017-03-10 19:22:14] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> r
  1329. [2017-03-10 19:22:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4despite being the same game
  1330. [2017-03-10 19:22:15] <Lord_Bowser> yeah
  1331. [2017-03-10 19:22:16] <Freakworld> nah dont make deluxe seperate imo
  1332. [2017-03-10 19:22:21] <turb> ssb 3ds/wii u are a lot more different than mk8/deluxe are it seems
  1333. [2017-03-10 19:22:21] <Freakworld> its still the same game
  1334. [2017-03-10 19:22:23] <Nyrie> yeah just do the same thing as m1
  1335. [2017-03-10 19:22:25] <Superchao> deluxe is the same but more
  1336. [2017-03-10 19:22:26] <Lord_Bowser> keep dx with mk8
  1337. [2017-03-10 19:22:29] <meowth> 12it only has a little new content
  1338. [2017-03-10 19:22:29] <Superchao> let's put them togther
  1339. [2017-03-10 19:22:51] <Anton{Politoed}> 4not putting this to a vote because it's clear
  1340. [2017-03-10 19:22:57] <Freakworld> y
  1341. [2017-03-10 19:23:11] <Meta_Knight> 10that seems fair
  1342. [2017-03-10 19:23:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4nothing else is new so no changes are to be made, M2 already holds all possible games except for the arcade games
  1343. [2017-03-10 19:23:32] <Freakworld> those suck sadly
  1344. [2017-03-10 19:23:34] <Gabumon> 3vote on whether a vote is necessary y-n-m
  1345. [2017-03-10 19:23:39] <Nyrie> n
  1346. [2017-03-10 19:23:40] <Superchao> y
  1347. [2017-03-10 19:23:40] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> y
  1348. [2017-03-10 19:23:41] <Lord_Bowser> y
  1349. [2017-03-10 19:23:42] <Toadbert> m
  1350. [2017-03-10 19:23:42] <meowth> 126
  1351. [2017-03-10 19:23:42] <Freakworld> a
  1352. [2017-03-10 19:23:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4w for wumbo
  1353. [2017-03-10 19:23:51] <Meta_Knight> 10a
  1354. [2017-03-10 19:23:58] <Gabumon> 3dont enlarge our workload
  1355. [2017-03-10 19:24:02] <Lakituthequick> mayonaise
  1356. [2017-03-10 19:24:05] <Nyrie> f
  1357. [2017-03-10 19:24:07] <Mariofan169> &
  1358. [2017-03-10 19:24:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next up:
  1359. [2017-03-10 19:24:23] <meowth> 123(y)-1(n)-1(m)-2(a)-1(w)-1(f)-1(6)-1(&)
  1360. [2017-03-10 19:24:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M3 Favorite Mario Platformer (Super Mario 64/Super Mario 64 DS, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario World, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U, Super Mario 3D World)
  1361. [2017-03-10 19:24:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4let's discuss removals first
  1362. [2017-03-10 19:24:29] <meowth> 12remind me to never do that again
  1363. [2017-03-10 19:24:38] <Toadbert> never do that again
  1364. [2017-03-10 19:24:38] <Superchao> well, what's down at the bottom
  1365. [2017-03-10 19:24:39] <Lakituthequick> nitpick from ltq (tm)
  1366. [2017-03-10 19:24:42] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 12) Super Mario Bros. — 49 — 1.78% 13) New Super Mario Bros. 2 — 29 — 1.06% 14) O. Super Mario Bros. 2 — 9 — 0.33%
  1367. [2017-03-10 19:24:51] <turb> lol nsmb2
  1368. [2017-03-10 19:24:52] <Superchao> i feel like we can kill NSMB2
  1369. [2017-03-10 19:24:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are removals even necessary
  1370. [2017-03-10 19:24:53] <Lord_Bowser> remove nsmb2
  1371. [2017-03-10 19:24:56] <meowth> 12nsmb2 goty
  1372. [2017-03-10 19:25:01] <turb> i honestly don't think removing nsmb2 is necessary
  1373. [2017-03-10 19:25:05] <Mariofan169> 4 new games are a bit much
  1374. [2017-03-10 19:25:06] <Freakworld> per killing nsmb2
  1375. [2017-03-10 19:25:08] <meowth> 12i dont necessarily think nsmb2 needs to be removed
  1376. [2017-03-10 19:25:09] <Lakituthequick> sm64 and ds have a slash without spaces surrounding
  1377. [2017-03-10 19:25:16] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> Kill nsmb2
  1378. [2017-03-10 19:25:17] <Mariofan169> plus there's the matter of super mario run
  1379. [2017-03-10 19:25:22] <turb> it performed shittily but it's not terrible
  1380. [2017-03-10 19:25:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we are still within the limit of 15 but that doesn't imply we have to keep it
  1381. [2017-03-10 19:25:24] <Lakituthequick> nsmbu as well
  1382. [2017-03-10 19:25:25] <Nyrie> oh right super mario run
  1383. [2017-03-10 19:25:30] <turb> im pretty neutral though
  1384. [2017-03-10 19:25:33] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> I thnk adding super mario run is a good idea for now
  1385. [2017-03-10 19:25:34] <Meta_Knight> 10how many nominees here are there
  1386. [2017-03-10 19:25:34] <Freakworld> add super mario run
  1387. [2017-03-10 19:25:39] <meowth> 1213
  1388. [2017-03-10 19:25:42] <Superchao> yeah, let's give run a chance
  1389. [2017-03-10 19:25:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4we're talking about removals now
  1390. [2017-03-10 19:25:51] <Freakworld> im the only person who genuinely likes super mario run but w/e
  1391. [2017-03-10 19:25:54] <turb> like shittier than usual but it didn't get less votes that a writein
  1392. [2017-03-10 19:25:55] <turb> than
  1393. [2017-03-10 19:25:56] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> remove nsmb2
  1394. [2017-03-10 19:25:56] <Freakworld> remove nsmb2
  1395. [2017-03-10 19:26:11] <Nyrie> i dont think we should remove nsmb2
  1396. [2017-03-10 19:26:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Remove NSMB2? (Y/N/A)
  1397. [2017-03-10 19:26:23] <Lord_Bowser> y
  1398. [2017-03-10 19:26:24] <meowth> 12i'm personally ok with leaving as is but if nsmb2 dies i dont think anyone would miss it
  1399. [2017-03-10 19:26:24] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> y
  1400. [2017-03-10 19:26:25] <Freakworld> y
  1401. [2017-03-10 19:26:29] <DragonFreak> 6y
  1402. [2017-03-10 19:26:30] <Gabumon> 3a
  1403. [2017-03-10 19:26:31] <Lakituthequick> y
  1404. [2017-03-10 19:26:36] <Mariofan169> a
  1405. [2017-03-10 19:26:37] <meowth> 12ehhh a
  1406. [2017-03-10 19:26:38] <Meta_Knight> 10a
  1407. [2017-03-10 19:26:39] <Nyrie> a
  1408. [2017-03-10 19:26:39] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> it's the worst of the bunch and it's not popular
  1409. [2017-03-10 19:26:40] <turb> a
  1410. [2017-03-10 19:26:46] <meowth> 125-0-6
  1411. [2017-03-10 19:26:49] <turb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMWmi9ovX7M
  1412. [2017-03-10 19:26:52] <meowth> 12the abstains have it
  1413. [2017-03-10 19:26:56] <Superchao> y
  1414. [2017-03-10 19:27:01] <meowth> 126-0-6
  1415. [2017-03-10 19:27:01] <turb> i prepared for this very moment
  1416. [2017-03-10 19:27:09] <Superchao> YES
  1417. [2017-03-10 19:27:16] <Superchao> i've been looking for that video for so long
  1418. [2017-03-10 19:27:19] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> good work turb
  1419. [2017-03-10 19:27:20] <Superchao> much thnak
  1420. [2017-03-10 19:27:25] <turb> yw
  1421. [2017-03-10 19:27:26] <Nyrie> sexy lady
  1422. [2017-03-10 19:27:27] <DragonFreak> 6turb i love you
  1423. [2017-03-10 19:27:28] <Lord_Bowser> lmao
  1424. [2017-03-10 19:27:30] <turb> thanks
  1425. [2017-03-10 19:27:34] <Lakituthequick> shouldnt there be a thing about ties with abstains
  1426. [2017-03-10 19:27:35] <Lord_Bowser> that's great turb
  1427. [2017-03-10 19:27:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4NSMB2 is removed
  1428. [2017-03-10 19:27:44] <Freakworld> woo
  1429. [2017-03-10 19:27:52] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> Hey anton
  1430. [2017-03-10 19:27:53] <meowth> 12adios
  1431. [2017-03-10 19:27:55] <Mariofan169> pffft
  1432. [2017-03-10 19:28:01] <Superchao> not really
  1433. [2017-03-10 19:28:08] <Superchao> because abstains are just "i don't vote"
  1434. [2017-03-10 19:28:09] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> if there were more a's then y's would nsmb2 have stayed?
  1435. [2017-03-10 19:28:14] <Freakworld> its not like these are the most
  1436. [2017-03-10 19:28:14] <Meta_Knight> 10i voted abstain because i dont really mind if its removed or not
  1437. [2017-03-10 19:28:15] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no
  1438. [2017-03-10 19:28:16] <Freakworld> formal votes ever
  1439. [2017-03-10 19:28:17] <meowth> 12no
  1440. [2017-03-10 19:28:17] <Lakituthequick> okay, perfect
  1441. [2017-03-10 19:28:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4let's say if the vote was like
  1442. [2017-03-10 19:28:29] <meowth> 12abstains dont really affect it unless like
  1443. [2017-03-10 19:28:32] <meowth> 123 people vote
  1444. [2017-03-10 19:28:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 4/3/8
  1445. [2017-03-10 19:28:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4then the vote would be canceled and further discussion would be required
  1446. [2017-03-10 19:28:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but no one said N
  1447. [2017-03-10 19:28:46] <meowth> 12or if its really divisive yeah
  1448. [2017-03-10 19:28:54] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> ok just checking
  1449. [2017-03-10 19:29:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anything else desired to be removed?
  1450. [2017-03-10 19:29:15] <Nyrie> no
  1451. [2017-03-10 19:29:16] <meowth> 12in this case it was either "kill it" or "who cares" so!
  1452. [2017-03-10 19:29:17] <Mariofan169> that's it
  1453. [2017-03-10 19:29:18] <meowth> 12no
  1454. [2017-03-10 19:29:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 12) Super Mario Bros. — 49 — 1.78% 13) New Super Mario Bros. 2 — 29 — 1.06%
  1455. [2017-03-10 19:29:22] <Lord_Bowser> nah
  1456. [2017-03-10 19:29:25] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that was the next closest
  1457. [2017-03-10 19:29:28] <turb> imo everything else is fine
  1458. [2017-03-10 19:29:32] <meowth> 12smb got enough to stay imo
  1459. [2017-03-10 19:29:32] <turb> smb is, well, smb
  1460. [2017-03-10 19:29:38] <turb> and it got enough to stay
  1461. [2017-03-10 19:29:41] <meowth> 12and is also smb
  1462. [2017-03-10 19:29:42] <turb> even ignoring the nostalgia factor
  1463. [2017-03-10 19:29:48] <Freakworld> we cant remove that
  1464. [2017-03-10 19:29:50] <Freakworld> lol
  1465. [2017-03-10 19:29:58] <Superchao> yeah, keep the origin
  1466. [2017-03-10 19:29:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next vote is pretty straightforward
  1467. [2017-03-10 19:30:02] <meowth> 12so move on to adding
  1468. [2017-03-10 19:30:05] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> i'd be fine with removing it but w/e
  1469. [2017-03-10 19:30:13] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Super Mario Run"? (Y/N/A)
  1470. [2017-03-10 19:30:15] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> y
  1471. [2017-03-10 19:30:17] <Freakworld> y
  1472. [2017-03-10 19:30:17] <Mariofan169> y
  1473. [2017-03-10 19:30:17] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  1474. [2017-03-10 19:30:17] <Superchao> y
  1475. [2017-03-10 19:30:18] <Nyrie> y
  1476. [2017-03-10 19:30:26] <DragonFreak> 6y
  1477. [2017-03-10 19:30:29] <Lord_Bowser> a
  1478. [2017-03-10 19:30:33] <meowth> 12y
  1479. [2017-03-10 19:30:36] <shoutmon> 7y
  1480. [2017-03-10 19:30:38] <Meta_Knight> 10a
  1481. [2017-03-10 19:30:39] <turb> y
  1482. [2017-03-10 19:30:48] <Lakituthequick> a
  1483. [2017-03-10 19:30:54] <meowth> 1210-0-3
  1484. [2017-03-10 19:30:56] <Gabumon> 3a
  1485. [2017-03-10 19:31:01] <meowth> 12the era of running has begun
  1486. [2017-03-10 19:31:05] <meowth> 1210-0-4
  1487. [2017-03-10 19:31:10] <Freakworld> ye
  1488. [2017-03-10 19:31:15] <Superchao> run, mario, ru
  1489. [2017-03-10 19:31:17] <Superchao> *run
  1490. [2017-03-10 19:31:24] <Freakworld> is that game out on android by now
  1491. [2017-03-10 19:31:27] <Lord_Bowser> no
  1492. [2017-03-10 19:31:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World and Super Mario Odyssey are the only other games that fit platformer
  1493. [2017-03-10 19:31:30] <Freakworld> kek
  1494. [2017-03-10 19:31:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the former is covered by another award, and the latter not this year
  1495. [2017-03-10 19:31:37] <Gabumon> 3actually wait
  1496. [2017-03-10 19:31:37] <Meta_Knight> 10odyssey wont be out
  1497. [2017-03-10 19:31:46] <Gabumon> 3is super mario run a platformer?
  1498. [2017-03-10 19:31:47] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> I'd be ok with wolly world
  1499. [2017-03-10 19:31:52] <Nyrie> yeah
  1500. [2017-03-10 19:31:54] <Freakworld> yes Gabumon
  1501. [2017-03-10 19:31:55] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> it's a 3d platformer
  1502. [2017-03-10 19:31:57] <Superchao> i feel it's close enough
  1503. [2017-03-10 19:32:05] <DragonFreak> 6no it would be a 2d platformer
  1504. [2017-03-10 19:32:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the wiki lists it as a platformer
  1505. [2017-03-10 19:32:08] <Freakworld> its a platformer with automatic running
  1506. [2017-03-10 19:32:09] <DragonFreak> 62.5d?
  1507. [2017-03-10 19:32:22] <Freakworld> same as geometry dash for example
  1508. [2017-03-10 19:32:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4wikipedia does not list it as one, necessarily
  1509. [2017-03-10 19:32:42] <Freakworld> were not wikipedia
  1510. [2017-03-10 19:32:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so this would be using our own definition as determined by whatever whoever put it on the wiki said
  1511. [2017-03-10 19:32:48] <Gabumon> 3like, I thought it was an endless runner
  1512. [2017-03-10 19:32:55] <turb> is an endless runner technically a platformer
  1513. [2017-03-10 19:32:57] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> sorry I misread what edo said my fault
  1514. [2017-03-10 19:33:00] <Lord_Bowser> the wiki is a better source for this kind of info than wikipedia imo
  1515. [2017-03-10 19:33:02] <Freakworld> per turb
  1516. [2017-03-10 19:33:02] <shoutmon> 7i dont think its endless
  1517. [2017-03-10 19:33:03] <turb> idk what they're qualified as usually
  1518. [2017-03-10 19:33:05] <turb> beyond wikipedia
  1519. [2017-03-10 19:33:11] <DragonFreak> 6yeah it's not endless
  1520. [2017-03-10 19:33:13] <Freakworld> a runner is a platformer in my book
  1521. [2017-03-10 19:33:14] <turb> or the wiki itself
  1522. [2017-03-10 19:33:15] <shoutmon> 7the levels have a distinct end point that you reach
  1523. [2017-03-10 19:33:15] <Superchao> well, an endless runner is basically a platforming game at its heart, just one with automatic motion
  1524. [2017-03-10 19:33:18] <turb> oh
  1525. [2017-03-10 19:33:19] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> I mean it's got all the features of a platformer
  1526. [2017-03-10 19:33:21] <DragonFreak> 6there's beginning and endings to eveyr level
  1527. [2017-03-10 19:33:25] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> it's just an auto pilot
  1528. [2017-03-10 19:33:25] <turb> if it has a distinct end point i guess that could qualify it more
  1529. [2017-03-10 19:33:33] <turb> its auto pilot with one button
  1530. [2017-03-10 19:33:35] <turb> but still a platformer?
  1531. [2017-03-10 19:33:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah, what shoey said
  1532. [2017-03-10 19:33:41] <turb> i think that's fair
  1533. [2017-03-10 19:33:48] <Freakworld> wikipedia knows nothig
  1534. [2017-03-10 19:33:48] <Gabumon> 3ok
  1535. [2017-03-10 19:33:52] <Freakworld> piece of trash website
  1536. [2017-03-10 19:33:54] <Freakworld> smh
  1537. [2017-03-10 19:34:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next up:
  1538. [2017-03-10 19:34:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M4 Favorite Mario Kart Course (Bowser’s Castle (Mario Kart 64), Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 7), Wario Colosseum, Waluigi Pinball, Airship Fortress, Mushroom Gorge, Coconut Mall, Maple Treeway, Electrodrome, N64 Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 8), Mount Wario, Mute City, Animal Crossing, Baby Park, Big Blue)
  1539. [2017-03-10 19:34:36] <Lakituthequick> one more thing
  1540. [2017-03-10 19:34:41] <Lakituthequick> [Sat 03:24:37] Lakituthequick nitpick from ltq (tm)
  1541. [2017-03-10 19:34:43] <Lakituthequick> Lakituthequick sm64 and ds have a slash without spaces surrounding
  1542. [2017-03-10 19:34:44] <Superchao> what is it uncle
  1543. [2017-03-10 19:34:44] <Lakituthequick> [Sat 03:25:21] Lakituthequick nsmbu as well
  1544. [2017-03-10 19:34:49] <turb> f
  1545. [2017-03-10 19:34:53] <turb> @reference
  1546. [2017-03-10 19:35:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's a typographical quirk of mine
  1547. [2017-03-10 19:35:02] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I prefer spaces
  1548. [2017-03-10 19:35:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll mark it in my notes to homogenize
  1549. [2017-03-10 19:35:18] <Lakituthequick> :ok:
  1550. [2017-03-10 19:35:29] <turb> does mk8 deluxe add any new tracks
  1551. [2017-03-10 19:35:33] <turb> or is it just battle courses
  1552. [2017-03-10 19:35:34] <Freakworld> im gonna say leave this as it is
  1553. [2017-03-10 19:35:37] <Superchao> well wait
  1554. [2017-03-10 19:35:39] <Freakworld> no just battle arenas
  1555. [2017-03-10 19:35:40] <Superchao> let's see the results
  1556. [2017-03-10 19:35:47] <Superchao> what was the bottom one and top write in
  1557. [2017-03-10 19:35:52] <meowth> 12i think its just dlc tracks
  1558. [2017-03-10 19:35:54] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 13) Big Blue — 101 — 3.83% 14) Animal Crossing — 56 — 2.12% 15) Mute City — 53 — 2.01% 16) O. Rainbow Road (Mario Kart Wii) — 24 — 0.91% 16) O. Rainbow Road (Super Mario Kart) — 24 — 0.91%
  1559. [2017-03-10 19:35:59] <Superchao> hmm
  1560. [2017-03-10 19:36:09] <Freakworld> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mute city was that low
  1561. [2017-03-10 19:36:11] <Superchao> okay, not really enough to justify a swap, imo
  1562. [2017-03-10 19:36:14] <Freakworld> WEW lad
  1563. [2017-03-10 19:36:15] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> personally i'm in favor of removing animal crossing
  1564. [2017-03-10 19:36:15] <meowth> 12iiii dunno what to do there
  1565. [2017-03-10 19:36:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Animal Crossing and Mute City do have significantly lower numbers
  1566. [2017-03-10 19:36:17] <Freakworld> and no
  1567. [2017-03-10 19:36:32] <Superchao> possible, if we want to trim it down
  1568. [2017-03-10 19:36:39] <Superchao> but it feels like unnecessary cutting to me
  1569. [2017-03-10 19:36:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and yeah, it's at 15
  1570. [2017-03-10 19:36:45] <meowth> 1250+ votes is still pretty good
  1571. [2017-03-10 19:37:00] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> but does it have any chance of ever getting more
  1572. [2017-03-10 19:37:28] <turb> possibly
  1573. [2017-03-10 19:37:32] <turb> it depends on voters
  1574. [2017-03-10 19:37:39] <meowth> 12it could
  1575. [2017-03-10 19:37:41] <turb> i dont really want to remove either but
  1576. [2017-03-10 19:37:42] <turb> shrug
  1577. [2017-03-10 19:37:52] <Superchao> let's vote on each one and see
  1578. [2017-03-10 19:37:57] <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's hard to determine that, it's the first year it's on the award
  1579. [2017-03-10 19:38:00] <Freakworld> like i said i wouldnt remove anything
  1580. [2017-03-10 19:38:01] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Animal Crossing, that is
  1581. [2017-03-10 19:38:02] <Lakituthequick> we have another fzero course as well so
  1582. [2017-03-10 19:38:14] <Freakworld> that one did kinda bad as well
  1583. [2017-03-10 19:38:18] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> do we need both f-zero courses
  1584. [2017-03-10 19:38:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4how many new courses are there and are any of note
  1585. [2017-03-10 19:38:22] <Superchao> that's never stopped us from having a bunch of mario guys on the smash thing
  1586. [2017-03-10 19:38:23] <Lakituthequick> we could only keep the one that dod better
  1587. [2017-03-10 19:38:27] <Freakworld> yes shoey
  1588. [2017-03-10 19:38:28] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> are they taking votes from each other
  1589. [2017-03-10 19:38:32] <Freakworld> they were both top
  1590. [2017-03-10 19:38:42] <Mariofan169> I've never bought any dlc for mk8
  1591. [2017-03-10 19:38:58] <Freakworld> there are no new courses in deluxe
  1592. [2017-03-10 19:39:03] <Freakworld> only battle arenas
  1593. [2017-03-10 19:39:05] <Lakituthequick> 13) Big Blue — 101 — 3.83%
  1594. [2017-03-10 19:39:21] <meowth> 12i will say
  1595. [2017-03-10 19:39:24] <Mariofan169> but there's a slight chance both f-zero tracks are there mostly because they're hip 3rd party dlc tracks
  1596. [2017-03-10 19:39:26] <meowth> 12that if we were to remove/swap
  1597. [2017-03-10 19:39:32] <meowth> 12either keep both or ditch both
  1598. [2017-03-10 19:39:43] <meowth> 12given that theyre really close
  1599. [2017-03-10 19:39:46] <meowth> 12ac and mc, i mean
  1600. [2017-03-10 19:39:57] <Freakworld> we should vote
  1601. [2017-03-10 19:39:58] <Superchao> what about dc
  1602. [2017-03-10 19:40:03] <Meta_Knight> 10seems fair
  1603. [2017-03-10 19:40:07] <Mariofan169> but even then, I don't want anything to be cut for no reason
  1604. [2017-03-10 19:40:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any that could be added
  1605. [2017-03-10 19:40:23] <Lord_Bowser> ribbon road from mk8
  1606. [2017-03-10 19:40:23] <Freakworld> from the top of my head no
  1607. [2017-03-10 19:40:23] <meowth> 12i guess just the possible rainbow roads there
  1608. [2017-03-10 19:40:33] <meowth> 12but i personally think this is fine as it
  1609. [2017-03-10 19:40:42] <Lakituthequick> do we want a load of rr's though
  1610. [2017-03-10 19:40:45] <Lord_Bowser> neo bowser city
  1611. [2017-03-10 19:40:50] <Superchao> rainbow rumble
  1612. [2017-03-10 19:40:51] <Lakituthequick> i'd go for koopa cape then
  1613. [2017-03-10 19:40:54] <meowth> 12that too
  1614. [2017-03-10 19:40:55] <Freakworld> "best rainbow road"
  1615. [2017-03-10 19:40:58] <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah that's my personal concern
  1616. [2017-03-10 19:41:02] <meowth> 12theres already two rrs on the award
  1617. [2017-03-10 19:41:06] <Freakworld> new super award (tm)
  1618. [2017-03-10 19:41:13] <meowth> 12so yeah im voting against any changes
  1619. [2017-03-10 19:41:14] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i mean they /are/ all individual courses, just similar in name and theme
  1620. [2017-03-10 19:41:19] <Anton{Politoed}> 4like how there's ice courses
  1621. [2017-03-10 19:41:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so it's not entirely fair to lump them to all be considered as one, basically
  1622. [2017-03-10 19:41:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but still _
  1623. [2017-03-10 19:41:42] <Lakituthequick> ice courses gerneally have their own names and layouts and features
  1624. [2017-03-10 19:41:47] <Lakituthequick> sharing just cold
  1625. [2017-03-10 19:41:47] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah i wouldnt want to lump them either
  1626. [2017-03-10 19:41:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but do you get the point, at least
  1627. [2017-03-10 19:41:54] <Meta_Knight> 10some rainbow roads are far better than others
  1628. [2017-03-10 19:41:59] <meowth> 12i dont think were lumping them
  1629. [2017-03-10 19:42:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4"rainbow road" is more just a course theme
  1630. [2017-03-10 19:42:01] <Lakituthequick> i get the point yeah
  1631. [2017-03-10 19:42:03] <Lord_Bowser> lumping all of the rr's would be a bad idea yeah
  1632. [2017-03-10 19:42:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no i mean
  1633. [2017-03-10 19:42:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4i know we're not lumping them
  1634. [2017-03-10 19:42:26] <Meta_Knight> 10well i know its just like a theme
  1635. [2017-03-10 19:42:29] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but choosing to not add them to the main nominees because there's already a few others up there doesn't seem exactly fair
  1636. [2017-03-10 19:42:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4even if it still bothers me subjectively
  1637. [2017-03-10 19:42:39] <meowth> 12fair enough
  1638. [2017-03-10 19:42:44] <Lakituthequick> rr's share everything execpt layout and the occasiobal moon
  1639. [2017-03-10 19:42:48] <Meta_Knight> 10just like the standard desert course, ice course, bowser castle, etc
  1640. [2017-03-10 19:43:11] <Gamefreak75> sorry had to make dinner
  1641. [2017-03-10 19:43:12] <meowth> 12i'm mostly opposing them because i don't think there's enough difference in votes to justify a swap this year
  1642. [2017-03-10 19:43:18] <turb> i mean it bugs me too but i also dont want to go out of my way to add them if they didnt get THAT many votes
  1643. [2017-03-10 19:43:21] <turb> yeah
  1644. [2017-03-10 19:43:22] <Anton{Politoed}> 4so I guess what we do first, since there's still room to cram them in and it'd still be 17
  1645. [2017-03-10 19:43:23] <turb> what smasher said
  1646. [2017-03-10 19:44:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add both "Rainbow Road (Mario Kart Wii)" and "Rainbow Road (Super Mario Kart)"? (Y/N/A)
  1647. [2017-03-10 19:44:16] <meowth> 12n
  1648. [2017-03-10 19:44:17] <Freakworld> n
  1649. [2017-03-10 19:44:20] <Mariofan169> a
  1650. [2017-03-10 19:44:21] <Lakituthequick> n
  1651. [2017-03-10 19:44:29] <turb> n
  1652. [2017-03-10 19:44:36] <Lord_Bowser> a
  1653. [2017-03-10 19:44:42] <Gamefreak75> n
  1654. [2017-03-10 19:44:42] <Meta_Knight> 10n
  1655. [2017-03-10 19:44:44] <meowth> 120-4-2
  1656. [2017-03-10 19:44:46] <shoutmon> 7a
  1657. [2017-03-10 19:44:49] <DragonFreak> 6a
  1658. [2017-03-10 19:44:52] <Superchao> n
  1659. [2017-03-10 19:45:07] <meowth> 120-7-4
  1660. [2017-03-10 19:45:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4they will not be added, so moving on
  1661. [2017-03-10 19:45:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Remove "Mute City"? (Y/N/A)
  1662. [2017-03-10 19:45:31] <meowth> 12fuck rainbows
  1663. [2017-03-10 19:45:35] <meowth> 12n
  1664. [2017-03-10 19:45:36] <Freakworld> n
  1665. [2017-03-10 19:45:36] <Lord_Bowser> n
  1666. [2017-03-10 19:45:41] <shoutmon> 7a
  1667. [2017-03-10 19:45:48] <Lakituthequick> y
  1668. [2017-03-10 19:45:52] <Gamefreak75> n
  1669. [2017-03-10 19:46:00] <Meta_Knight> 10n
  1670. [2017-03-10 19:46:10] <Nyrie> n
  1671. [2017-03-10 19:46:22] <meowth> 121-6-1
  1672. [2017-03-10 19:46:23] <DragonFreak> 6n
  1673. [2017-03-10 19:46:45] <meowth> 121-7-1
  1674. [2017-03-10 19:47:00] <Anton{Politoed}> 4mute city will not be removed
  1675. [2017-03-10 19:47:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4out of fairness
  1676. [2017-03-10 19:47:12] <Gabumon> 3a
  1677. [2017-03-10 19:47:12] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Remove "Animal Crossing"? (Y/N/A)
  1678. [2017-03-10 19:47:15] <Superchao> n
  1679. [2017-03-10 19:47:20] <Lakituthequick> a
  1680. [2017-03-10 19:47:21] <Lord_Bowser> a
  1681. [2017-03-10 19:47:23] <Freakworld> a
  1682. [2017-03-10 19:47:23] <Gabumon> 3a
  1683. [2017-03-10 19:47:24] <dia> a
  1684. [2017-03-10 19:47:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4n
  1685. [2017-03-10 19:47:31] <Meta_Knight> 10n
  1686. [2017-03-10 19:47:31] <meowth> 12n
  1687. [2017-03-10 19:47:35] <DragonFreak> 6n
  1688. [2017-03-10 19:47:51] <shoutmon> 7a
  1689. [2017-03-10 19:47:55] <meowth> 120-4-5
  1690. [2017-03-10 19:48:05] <meowth> 12i cant tell if perch was saying n to this or mc
  1691. [2017-03-10 19:48:12] <meowth> 120-4-6
  1692. [2017-03-10 19:48:12] <Superchao> animal crossing
  1693. [2017-03-10 19:48:14] <meowth> 12or both
  1694. [2017-03-10 19:48:20] <Anton{Politoed}> 4animal crossing will not be removed
  1695. [2017-03-10 19:48:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4anything else to consider for M4?
  1696. [2017-03-10 19:48:27] <meowth> 120-5-6
  1697. [2017-03-10 19:48:42] <meowth> 12move on
  1698. [2017-03-10 19:48:45] <turb> id say move on
  1699. [2017-03-10 19:48:46] <Superchao> n
  1700. [2017-03-10 19:48:47] <turb> sorry for missing the votes lol
  1701. [2017-03-10 19:48:52] <Lord_Bowser> move on
  1702. [2017-03-10 19:48:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next up:
  1703. [2017-03-10 19:49:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M5 Favorite DK Game (Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy’s Kong Quest, Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble!, Donkey Kong 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong Country Returns/Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D, Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Donkey Kong (Arcade), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat,
  1704. [2017-03-10 19:49:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Donkey Kong ‘94 (Game Boy))
  1705. [2017-03-10 19:49:22] <Meta_Knight> 10i dont think anything has to be changed
  1706. [2017-03-10 19:49:23] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 9) Donkey Kong (Game Boy) — 79 — 3.32% 10) Donkey Kong Jungle Beat — 50 — 2.10% 11) Donkey Kong Jr. Math — 41 — 1.72% 12) O. Donkey Konga — 7 — 0.29%
  1707. [2017-03-10 19:49:28] <Mariofan169> why is math still here again
  1708. [2017-03-10 19:49:32] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I don't think anything needs to be changed, either
  1709. [2017-03-10 19:49:33] <Superchao> it's a meme
  1710. [2017-03-10 19:49:35] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> it's a local meme
  1711. [2017-03-10 19:49:47] <Mariofan169> can't argue with that
  1712. [2017-03-10 19:49:48] <Freakworld> move on
  1713. [2017-03-10 19:49:53] <Lord_Bowser> move on
  1714. [2017-03-10 19:50:05] <meowth> 12i will never understand maths inclusion but at least it got reasonable votes this time
  1715. [2017-03-10 19:50:07] <meowth> 12!skip
  1716. [2017-03-10 19:50:15] <Mariofan169> lol at math having more votes than donkey konga
  1717. [2017-03-10 19:50:21] <turb> !skip
  1718. [2017-03-10 19:50:25] <Superchao> !status
  1719. [2017-03-10 19:50:27] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next up:
  1720. [2017-03-10 19:50:30] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M6 Favorite Wario Game (Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3, Wario Land 3, Wario Land 4, WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Game$!, WarioWare: Twisted!, WarioWare: Touched!, WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wario: Master of Disguise, Wario Land: Shake It!, WarioWare: D.I.Y., Wario World, Game & Wario, Wario Land II)
  1721. [2017-03-10 19:50:31] <Freakworld> !end
  1722. [2017-03-10 19:50:31] <meowth> 12why play the bongos when you can add
  1723. [2017-03-10 19:50:38] <Meta_Knight> 10this ddoesnt need to be changed either imo
  1724. [2017-03-10 19:50:39] <Lord_Bowser> Waiting on: 1. <turb>
  1725. [2017-03-10 19:50:40] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 13) WarioWare: Twisted! — 51 — 2.32% 14) O. Wario's Woods — 5 — 0.23% 15) O. Virtual Boy Wario Land — 1 — 0.05%
  1726. [2017-03-10 19:50:43] <meowth> 12!skip
  1727. [2017-03-10 19:50:44] <Superchao> lol
  1728. [2017-03-10 19:50:44] <turb> !skip
  1729. [2017-03-10 19:50:45] <Gabumon> 3we should add all the new wario games that came out
  1730. [2017-03-10 19:50:45] <Anton{Politoed}> 4likewise with M4
  1731. [2017-03-10 19:50:45] <Superchao> don't change
  1732. [2017-03-10 19:50:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  1733. [2017-03-10 19:50:50] <turb> edo dont do this to me
  1734. [2017-03-10 19:50:54] <Superchao> edo pls
  1735. [2017-03-10 19:50:59] <Mariofan169> wario's enchilada stand?
  1736. [2017-03-10 19:51:00] <Freakworld> a
  1737. [2017-03-10 19:51:02] <DragonFreak> 6vb wario land was at least the best game on the vb
  1738. [2017-03-10 19:51:11] <Superchao> -it's a good thing we don't have NIWA awards
  1739. [2017-03-10 19:51:14] <Freakworld> no that was jack bros.
  1740. [2017-03-10 19:51:17] <Superchao> imagine how static the Metroid award would be
  1741. [2017-03-10 19:51:25] <meowth> 12i think people actually liked vb wl yeah
  1742. [2017-03-10 19:51:27] <meowth> 12at least
  1743. [2017-03-10 19:51:30] <Freakworld> also known as the quintessential shin megami tensei game
  1744. [2017-03-10 19:51:33] <meowth> 12the five people who played it lol
  1745. [2017-03-10 19:51:34] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next up:
  1746. [2017-03-10 19:51:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4M7 Favorite Yoshi Game (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi’s Island DS, Tetris Attack, Yoshi’s Story, Yoshi Touch & Go, Yoshi’s Cookie, Yoshi, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy, Yoshi’s New Island, Yoshi’s Woolly World)
  1747. [2017-03-10 19:51:39] <Mariofan169> the 7-yeah lol
  1748. [2017-03-10 19:51:41] <Anton{Politoed}> 4this already includes everything
  1749. [2017-03-10 19:51:42] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> Federation force goty blocky
  1750. [2017-03-10 19:51:46] <Gabumon> 3about as static than samus' voice in other m?
  1751. [2017-03-10 19:51:51] <Gabumon> 3*as
  1752. [2017-03-10 19:51:51] <turb> slap Poochy & to the front of yww
  1753. [2017-03-10 19:51:53] <Freakworld> poochy &
  1754. [2017-03-10 19:51:54] <Meta_Knight> 10shoudl we merge poochy port to it
  1755. [2017-03-10 19:51:55] <meowth> 12do we do anything with poochy
  1756. [2017-03-10 19:51:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4except for Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World which we can easily yeah that
  1757. [2017-03-10 19:51:56] <Meta_Knight> 10yeah
  1758. [2017-03-10 19:51:57] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> is the poochy version any different
  1759. [2017-03-10 19:51:57] <Lord_Bowser> yeah
  1760. [2017-03-10 19:52:04] <Superchao> freakworld i can only assume you mean Virtual Boy Wario Land is the quintessential SMT game
  1761. [2017-03-10 19:52:05] <Mariofan169> so how different is poochy & from woolly world
  1762. [2017-03-10 19:52:06] <Superchao> am i correct
  1763. [2017-03-10 19:52:06] <Lord_Bowser> i think it has new levels
  1764. [2017-03-10 19:52:08] <Freakworld> it has playable poochjy
  1765. [2017-03-10 19:52:09] <shoutmon> 7wow i got pinged like 6 times
  1766. [2017-03-10 19:52:10] <Freakworld> in some levels
  1767. [2017-03-10 19:52:14] <Meta_Knight> 10its not significant enough to have its own slot
  1768. [2017-03-10 19:52:15] <turb> does poochy ping you
  1769. [2017-03-10 19:52:17] <Freakworld> kek
  1770. [2017-03-10 19:52:18] <meowth> 12does poochy ping you
  1771. [2017-03-10 19:52:18] <DragonFreak> 6wow poochy pings 22
  1772. [2017-03-10 19:52:19] <Meta_Knight> 10i would just merge it
  1773. [2017-03-10 19:52:23] <DragonFreak> 6but goat doesnt
  1774. [2017-03-10 19:52:24] <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.mariowiki.com/Poochy_%26_Yoshi%27s_Woolly_World#Changes_and_new_features
  1775. [2017-03-10 19:52:25] <DragonFreak> 6i dont understand
  1776. [2017-03-10 19:52:26] <Mariofan169> yeah it doesn't deserve it's own thing in that case
  1777. [2017-03-10 19:52:29] <Superchao> ping poochy you does
  1778. [2017-03-10 19:52:37] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I feel the changes fall within the confines of ssb 3ds/wii u
  1779. [2017-03-10 19:52:49] <Lakituthequick> poochy is a good stalkword
  1780. [2017-03-10 19:53:04] <meowth> 12ping 22 day
  1781. [2017-03-10 19:53:05] <Lord_Bowser> i feel like we should make smash 3ds/wii u our standard
  1782. [2017-03-10 19:53:17] <meowth> 12pretty much
  1783. [2017-03-10 19:53:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4spoiler alert
  1784. [2017-03-10 19:53:26] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm edging on getting rid of smash entirely
  1785. [2017-03-10 19:53:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but that's for later
  1786. [2017-03-10 19:53:33] <Freakworld> boo
  1787. [2017-03-10 19:53:34] <Lakituthequick> !
  1788. [2017-03-10 19:53:36] <Superchao> all smash?
  1789. [2017-03-10 19:53:38] <DragonFreak> 6i wouldn't object
  1790. [2017-03-10 19:53:44] <Anton{Politoed}> 4entirely
  1791. [2017-03-10 19:53:45] <DragonFreak> 6since smash is outside of mario
  1792. [2017-03-10 19:53:49] <Freakworld> lame
  1793. [2017-03-10 19:53:51] <Gabumon> 3ominous
  1794. [2017-03-10 19:53:55] <DragonFreak> 6tbh i never really thought it fit anyways
  1795. [2017-03-10 19:53:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but as for now it's trying to figure out how the fuck to name this
  1796. [2017-03-10 19:54:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World / Yoshi's Woolly World
  1797. [2017-03-10 19:54:07] <turb> it worked as an awards stopgap
  1798. [2017-03-10 19:54:09] <Anton{Politoed}> 4is accurate
  1799. [2017-03-10 19:54:11] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but very large
  1800. [2017-03-10 19:54:20] <turb> i like Poochy & / Yoshi's Woolly World myself but
  1801. [2017-03-10 19:54:21] <Lakituthequick> (poochy & ) yoshi blabla
  1802. [2017-03-10 19:54:22] <Lakituthequick> ?
  1803. [2017-03-10 19:54:26] <meowth> 12im fine with a little smash myself but thats for later
  1804. [2017-03-10 19:54:27] <Freakworld> per ltq
  1805. [2017-03-10 19:54:28] <turb> something like that
  1806. [2017-03-10 19:54:28] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I feel the accuracy is more important though
  1807. [2017-03-10 19:54:30] <Lord_Bowser> maybe do (Poochy &) Yoshi's Woolly World
  1808. [2017-03-10 19:54:35] <meowth> 12thats large but
  1809. [2017-03-10 19:54:37] <turb> well the accuracy is fine with me
  1810. [2017-03-10 19:54:37] <meowth> 12accuracy
  1811. [2017-03-10 19:54:38] <Gabumon> 3"Poochy"
  1812. [2017-03-10 19:54:42] <meowth> 12unless we do ()
  1813. [2017-03-10 19:54:47] <Nyrie> "Yoshi's Woolly World / Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World"
  1814. [2017-03-10 19:54:52] <turb> id rather have large nominee names than people freakin gout
  1815. [2017-03-10 19:54:56] <turb> and ruining the writeins
  1816. [2017-03-10 19:54:57] <Freakworld> per lb and ltq
  1817. [2017-03-10 19:55:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so how about this
  1818. [2017-03-10 19:55:10] <Anton{Politoed}> 4a vote with preface
  1819. [2017-03-10 19:55:16] <meowth> 12Pooch & (Yoshi's Woolly World)
  1820. [2017-03-10 19:55:23] <meowth> 12Poochy
  1821. [2017-03-10 19:55:27] <Mariofan169> I never thought about how dumb of a title that is
  1822. [2017-03-10 19:55:34] <Nyrie> Poochy's Yoshi World
  1823. [2017-03-10 19:55:36] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Option 1: "Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World / Yoshi's Woolly World"
  1824. [2017-03-10 19:55:36] <Mariofan169> Poochy Reloaded
  1825. [2017-03-10 19:55:39] <Lord_Bowser> i mean if people know about yww they kinda have to know about poochy
  1826. [2017-03-10 19:55:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Option 2: "(Poochy &) Yoshi's Woolly World"
  1827. [2017-03-10 19:55:58] <Lord_Bowser> i really don't see how they could be kept in the dark like that
  1828. [2017-03-10 19:56:07] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> 1
  1829. [2017-03-10 19:56:08] <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: 1/2/A
  1830. [2017-03-10 19:56:10] <Nyrie> 1
  1831. [2017-03-10 19:56:11] <Lord_Bowser> 2
  1832. [2017-03-10 19:56:12] <Lakituthequick> 2
  1833. [2017-03-10 19:56:12] <DragonFreak> 62
  1834. [2017-03-10 19:56:13] <Gabumon> 31
  1835. [2017-03-10 19:56:14] <Freakworld> 2
  1836. [2017-03-10 19:56:15] <Mariofan169> poochy, then poochies, then poochy 3, then poochy resurrection
  1837. [2017-03-10 19:56:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4 1
  1838. [2017-03-10 19:56:18] <Superchao> A
  1839. [2017-03-10 19:56:18] <meowth> 12a
  1840. [2017-03-10 19:56:20] <shoutmon> 7a
  1841. [2017-03-10 19:56:24] <meowth> 12im torn between them
  1842. [2017-03-10 19:56:27] <Nyrie> although i think they should be switched around
  1843. [2017-03-10 19:56:32] <Gabumon> 31.5
  1844. [2017-03-10 19:56:35] <Nyrie> since yww came before p&ywww
  1845. [2017-03-10 19:56:37] <turb> 1
  1846. [2017-03-10 19:56:38] <Mariofan169> inevitably followed up by poochy vs epona
  1847. [2017-03-10 19:56:41] <meowth> 121 is a little more accurate but 2 sounds less stupid
  1848. [2017-03-10 19:56:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4good point Nyrie
  1849. [2017-03-10 19:56:47] <meowth> 12but yes per nyrie if we go with 1
  1850. [2017-03-10 19:56:51] <turb> per nyrie if we do 1
  1851. [2017-03-10 19:56:52] <Anton{Politoed}> 4retcon Option 1 into what Nyrie said
  1852. [2017-03-10 19:56:52] <Gabumon> 3I agree, they should be flipped
  1853. [2017-03-10 19:56:56] <meowth> 12its always the first version first
  1854. [2017-03-10 19:57:01] <Marshal_Dan_Troop> still 1
  1855. [2017-03-10 19:57:04] <meowth> 12let me see now
  1856. [2017-03-10 19:57:10] <Meta_Knight> 10a
  1857. [2017-03-10 19:57:21] <DragonFreak> 6still 2
  1858. [2017-03-10 19:57:25] <meowth> 125-4-4
  1859. [2017-03-10 19:57:30] <Lakituthequick> by that logic 1 /does/ make sense
  1860. [2017-03-10 19:57:32] <Freakworld> im too tired to argze
  1861. [2017-03-10 19:57:33] <Anton{Politoed}> 4too close to call
  1862. [2017-03-10 19:57:35] <Freakworld> *argue
  1863. [2017-03-10 19:57:37] <Gabumon> 31 is number 1
  1864. [2017-03-10 19:57:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4I will make this a forum poll
  1865. [2017-03-10 19:57:45] <DragonFreak> 6we are number 1
  1866. [2017-03-10 19:57:51] <meowth> 12this is too close unless people suddenly change last minute
  1867. [2017-03-10 19:58:14] <Nyrie> i thought 1 was the standard
  1868. [2017-03-10 19:58:20] <Nyrie> we did "mk8 / mk8d"
  1869. [2017-03-10 19:58:25] <Nyrie> why is it different with this
  1870. [2017-03-10 19:58:33] <Freakworld> because its effing long
  1871. [2017-03-10 19:58:34] <meowth> 12i guess thats true
  1872. [2017-03-10 19:58:40] <Nyrie> so is mario kart 8 deluxe
  1873. [2017-03-10 19:58:42] <Gabumon> 3who cares
  1874. [2017-03-10 19:58:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4because it's at the front so it's weird and different
  1875. [2017-03-10 19:58:47] <DragonFreak> 6idk i feel like 2 just sounds better
  1876. [2017-03-10 19:58:49] <Lord_Bowser> it's pretty clunky imo
  1877. [2017-03-10 19:58:53] <Lord_Bowser> 2 is cleaner
  1878. [2017-03-10 19:58:57] <turb> i prefer 1 just because of how stupid the writeins are
  1879. [2017-03-10 19:59:01] <meowth> 12tbf i found mk8 / mk8d annoying too
  1880. [2017-03-10 19:59:07] <meowth> 12but writein people can be dumb so
  1881. [2017-03-10 19:59:09] <Mariofan169> one idea is not having poochy at all
  1882. [2017-03-10 19:59:16] <shoutmon> 7wrong
  1883. [2017-03-10 19:59:18] <meowth> 12switch vote to 1, 6-4-3
  1884. [2017-03-10 19:59:21] <shoutmon> 7that's not an idea
  1885. [2017-03-10 19:59:24] <Nyrie> well id be 100% fine with doing 2 but only if we went back and changed mk8/mk8d
  1886. [2017-03-10 19:59:25] <Lord_Bowser> and like i said i find it hard to believe that people can know about yww but not p&yww
  1887. [2017-03-10 19:59:25] <turb> incorrect idea
  1888. [2017-03-10 19:59:26] <Gabumon> 3I mean
  1889. [2017-03-10 19:59:26] <turb> deleted
  1890. [2017-03-10 19:59:30] <Gabumon> 3we have a standard already
  1891. [2017-03-10 19:59:32] <Gabumon> 3so
  1892. [2017-03-10 19:59:32] <meowth> 12yeah but that's a dumb idea
  1893. [2017-03-10 19:59:35] <turb> per edo
  1894. [2017-03-10 19:59:37] <Gabumon> 3just use the standard
  1895. [2017-03-10 19:59:43] <Anton{Politoed}> 4that would render the vote close enough to call
  1896. [2017-03-10 19:59:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the 6-4-3
  1897. [2017-03-10 19:59:54] <Gabumon> 3if we suddenly arbitrarily decide to not use the standard here
  1898. [2017-03-10 20:00:01] <Gabumon> 3we might as well not use it anywhere else
  1899. [2017-03-10 20:00:04] <meowth> 12thats why i switched
  1900. [2017-03-10 20:00:07] <Meta_Knight> 10i guess thats true
  1901. [2017-03-10 20:00:12] <Meta_Knight> 101
  1902. [2017-03-10 20:00:20] <Nyrie> thank you <3
  1903. [2017-03-10 20:00:27] <meowth> 127-4-3
  1904. [2017-03-10 20:00:34] <turb> i think its 7-4-2
  1905. [2017-03-10 20:00:40] <DragonFreak> 6uhhh i guess i'll just switch to 1 too
  1906. [2017-03-10 20:00:42] <Lakituthequick> unv: 2 - vote: 1
  1907. [2017-03-10 20:00:46] <Lakituthequick> rip mafia
  1908. [2017-03-10 20:00:48] <meowth> 12yeah whoops
  1909. [2017-03-10 20:00:56] <meowth> 129-2-2
  1910. [2017-03-10 20:00:59] <Freakworld> guys my battery is dying
  1911. [2017-03-10 20:01:00] <Gabumon> 3mafia is ded
  1912. [2017-03-10 20:01:00] <meowth> 12remember mafia
  1913. [2017-03-10 20:01:01] <Lord_Bowser> i'll switch to 1 from 2 then too
  1914. [2017-03-10 20:01:03] <Gabumon> 3innocents won forever
  1915. [2017-03-10 20:01:08] <meowth> 1210-1-2
  1916. [2017-03-10 20:01:11] <Lakituthequick> wonder what the result of this vote is
  1917. [2017-03-10 20:01:16] <meowth> 12remember five minutes ago when this was close
  1918. [2017-03-10 20:01:18] <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other changes to be made to the Yoshi award
  1919. [2017-03-10 20:01:21] <Nyrie> nope
  1920. [2017-03-10 20:01:22] <Freakworld> if i dont make it to the end post a "wii did it" for me
  1921. [2017-03-10 20:01:22] <meowth> 12no
  1922. [2017-03-10 20:01:31] <meowth> 12i wont
  1923. [2017-03-10 20:01:36] <Lakituthequick> "Something has happened! 1 was Lynched somehow!"
  1924. [2017-03-10 20:01:44] <shoutmon> 7but the wii brand is dead now
  1925. [2017-03-10 20:01:47] <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so let me compile my Thing
  1926. [2017-03-10 20:01:51] <shoutmon> 7we have to say switch did it
  1927. [2017-03-10 20:01:58] <shoutmon> 7even though thats not a pun
  1928. [2017-03-10 20:02:04] <meowth> 12we have to switch it up
  1929. [2017-03-10 20:02:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4what will be done soon enough after this meeting closes and I use the toilet because I really need to is:
  1930. [2017-03-10 20:02:09] <Nyrie> we switched it
  1931. [2017-03-10 20:02:16] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*I will make a thread to discuss the Shroom/User Award merger
  1932. [2017-03-10 20:02:21] <Lord_Bowser> it pulled the switch on the wii brand
  1933. [2017-03-10 20:02:28] <meowth> 12wii are dead
  1934. [2017-03-10 20:02:37] <shoutmon> 7wow has it already been two hours
  1935. [2017-03-10 20:02:39] <shoutmon> 7amazing
  1936. [2017-03-10 20:02:39] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*Edo will be making a thread to discuss the /10 decay rate, which will then flow into other token discussions
  1937. [2017-03-10 20:02:55] <Anton{Politoed}> 4*I'll homogenize the / spacing because i'm bad about that
  1938. [2017-03-10 20:03:00] <shoutmon> 7anyway freakworld before you die, macos is actually a certified unix
  1939. [2017-03-10 20:03:06] <Anton{Politoed}> 4-We got through M1-7
  1940. [2017-03-10 20:03:07] <shoutmon> 7thats why i said rich hipsters use it
  1941. [2017-03-10 20:03:15] <Freakworld> wew lad ok
  1942. [2017-03-10 20:03:21] <Anton{Politoed}> 4next meeting will take place same day of the week at technically the same time
  1943. [2017-03-10 20:03:30] <turb> hooray
  1944. [2017-03-10 20:03:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4but because of daylight savings it'll switch
  1945. [2017-03-10 20:03:35] * Anton{Politoed} 4makes a click sound
  1946. [2017-03-10 20:03:35] <turb> i hate daylight savings
  1947. [2017-03-10 20:03:46] <shoutmon> 7is that why you moved to arizona
  1948. [2017-03-10 20:03:47] <meowth> 12it'll "switch"
  1949. [2017-03-10 20:03:49] =-= turb has changed the topic to ``"An Excellent Meeting" - Chef Excellence, 2017 || Awards un-canceled thanks to court decided binding contract || 1st meeting hype || https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38178.0 Relevant Links || Number of meetings survived: 0 || Our mascot http://i.imgur.com/hbOuM8l.png''
  1950. [2017-03-10 20:03:50] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the reminder message will use the [time] thing so that will remain accurate
  1951. [2017-03-10 20:03:57] <turb> it makes it worse actually because the rest of the country uses it
  1952. [2017-03-10 20:04:01] =-= meowth has changed the topic to ``"An Excellent Meeting" - Chef Excellence, 2017 || Awards un-canceled thanks to court decided binding contract || 1st meeting hype || https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38178.0 Relevant Links || Number of meetings survived: 1 || Our mascot http://i.imgur.com/hbOuM8l.png''
  1953. [2017-03-10 20:04:04] <Superchao> >number of meetings
  1954. [2017-03-10 20:04:07] <Superchao> yeah i was gonna say
  1955. [2017-03-10 20:04:11] <Freakworld> nice stuff
  1956. [2017-03-10 20:04:13] <turb> i wasnt sure if anton wanted to update that
  1957. [2017-03-10 20:04:14] <meowth> 121st meeting hype
  1958. [2017-03-10 20:04:15] <turb> so i left it
  1959. [2017-03-10 20:04:16] <Freakworld> well then lads
  1960. [2017-03-10 20:04:19] <Freakworld> ill go to bed
  1961. [2017-03-10 20:04:19] <turb> maybe we all died at the end of meeting 1
  1962. [2017-03-10 20:04:21] <shoutmon> 7you just need to convince the rest of the country
  1963. [2017-03-10 20:04:24] <shoutmon> 7and the world
  1964. [2017-03-10 20:04:25] <turb> i want to
  1965. [2017-03-10 20:04:26] <Freakworld> good night
  1966. [2017-03-10 20:04:29] <turb> good night
  1967. [2017-03-10 20:04:31] <Anton{Politoed}> 4and next week the plan is to continue along with M8 and so on, with discussions happening on the forum determining when other things will be brought up
  1968. [2017-03-10 20:04:34] <Superchao> i will go play video games
  1969. [2017-03-10 20:04:36] <Superchao> goodbye
  1970. [2017-03-10 20:04:38] <Anton{Politoed}> 4thank you everyone for attending
  1971. [2017-03-10 20:04:40] <meowth> 12daylight savings was a mistake
  1972. [2017-03-10 20:04:42] <Lakituthequick> woo
  1973. [2017-03-10 20:04:43] <Lord_Bowser> nite freakworld
  1974. [2017-03-10 20:04:44] <Freakworld> thank you for hosting
  1975. [2017-03-10 20:04:45] <meowth> 12me too perch
  1976. [2017-03-10 20:04:46] <Anton{Politoed}> 4the meeting is now adjourned
  1977. [2017-03-10 20:04:47] <Nyrie> mario was a mistake
  1978. [2017-03-10 20:04:50] <Lord_Bowser> and woo first meeting
  1979. [2017-03-10 20:04:51] <meowth> 12Thanks for hosting.
  1980. [2017-03-10 20:04:56] <Lakituthequick> i'll get some logs in a sec
  1981. [2017-03-10 20:04:56] <Lord_Bowser> daisy was a mistake
  1982. [2017-03-10 20:04:57] <Freakworld> OBJECTION
  1983. [2017-03-10 20:04:59] <Anton{Politoed}> 4stick around for coffee and cake and light discussion
  1984. [2017-03-10 20:04:59] <Freakworld> oh wait nvm
  1985. [2017-03-10 20:05:02] <Gabumon> 3thanks for playing
  1986. [2017-03-10 20:05:04] |<-- Freakworld has left irc.darkmyst.org (Quit: zzzzzzzz)
  1987. [2017-03-10 20:05:07] <Anton{Politoed}> 4no pants is required
  1988. [2017-03-10 20:05:08] <DragonFreak> 6we did it
  1989. [2017-03-10 20:05:15] <Lakituthequick> unix 1500000000 is approching hy[e
  1990. [2017-03-10 20:05:16] <Lord_Bowser> wii did it
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