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  1. James Elliott said (20:19)
  2. as;lfkjsald;fjsadkl
  3. anything???
  4. this is crazy
  5.  
  6. James Elliott says (20:22)
  7. yay
  8. don't think u ever accepted me  
  9. Cassie says (20:22)
  10. i did cause you were on my list and everything
  11. James Elliott says (20:22)
  12. hmmm I'll let you off
  13. u ok?
  14. Cassie says (20:23)
  15. I'm fine, just worried about things between you and Ed
  16. Ed has told me he's a little confused about the entirity of the problem...is there a problem?
  17. James Elliott says (20:24)
  18. no problem as such. don't really wanna talk behind his back. is he cool with this?
  19. Cassie says (20:24)
  20. yeah he is, he's expressly asked me
  21. James Elliott says (20:24)
  22. ok cool.
  23. James Elliott says (20:25)
  24. just surprised by a couple of things today that's all
  25. but I understand he spent a week in bed, and now he's catching up.
  26. gonna happen, and I do understand that
  27. just lots of pressure on both of us today it seems
  28. I have lazy weeks too
  29. Cassie says (20:25)
  30. what's happened today that surprised you? lets take this one at a time
  31. James Elliott says (20:26)
  32. ok, came back to a BOMB SITE. I know we're not always the tidiest, but omg, the state of my room, the kitchen, and my bathroom where a site to behold. Again, not a problem in itself. Just wanted to chat to ed about it. Hasn't been able to spare me 5 mins all day, apart from when he wanted to give me instructions to post something to him.
  33. James Elliott says (20:27)
  34. I gather something harry is involved with
  35. again, can't get it out of him
  36. too busy
  37. Cassie says (20:28)
  38. Alright, as for messiness, things probably wouldve been tidier if we weren't rushing to leave and that's kinda my fault as I got us up too late and pushed it timewise, so I apologise
  39. James Elliott says (20:28)
  40. not your fault. you didn't rearrange my room
  41. Cassie says (20:28)
  42. and honestly, Ed has been working practically none stop since we got back to York
  43. James Elliott says (20:28)
  44. I doubt anyway? lol
  45. I don't doubt that
  46. Cassie says (20:28)
  47. So I haven;t had much time either
  48. James Elliott says (20:29)
  49. I offered help all last week when he was in bed. Wanted to wait. Then we agreed to work as a partnership. Told everyone. First think I hear today. He's out of a deal with harry. Then he's back in, and I'm out. Now he's not sure. But doesn't have time to explain anything
  50. Cassie says (20:30)
  51. Yep, he's feeling rather pressured and tbh, when we were travelling back he was particularly pissed off and forgetting things and such, and I had caused him to miss someone online that he really needed to talk to
  52. Cassie says (20:31)
  53. whom he's now talked to
  54. James Elliott says (20:31)
  55. I know he's stressed cass, that's why it's cool. But it's not going to make me not mention it. And to be fair, I've been trying to raise things calmly all day. It just boiled over about 30 mins ago
  56. Cassie says (20:31)
  57. No, I understand completely why you'd want to bring things up and thats fair
  58. James Elliott says (20:32)
  59. Have you noticed the actual "damage" to this place. The bathroom was no-one's fault, forget that. Nearly everything in ed's room that belongs to me, is burned in some way or stained.
  60. he made explosives the other day in the kitchen. burned the living room table
  61. still not cleaned
  62. I can have NO-ONE round who knows me
  63. James Elliott says (20:33)
  64. because of these things
  65. I love him, don't get me wrong, but today or all days with my Dad & all, I just expected to come back to at least a room that I left
  66. not a bomb site with more of my stuff strewn everywhere
  67. Cassie says (20:34)
  68. ofc, I will admit, we did chill in your room when I finally woke up saturday
  69. James Elliott says (20:34)
  70. just got too much for me today, because all I wanted is for him to read an email about my dad. he's been promising all day that's all
  71. nothing else mattered, just the straw that broke the back ya know
  72. James Elliott says (20:35)
  73. I accept ed for ed, and he accepts james for james
  74. it's how it is.
  75. just today was a bad day, and he couldn't have been more absent or dismissive of things that he really should have been apologising for
  76. Cassie says (20:35)
  77. yeah, Ed is saying the same things, many other things are getting to him and he's under the pressure and you are too with your family and all that
  78. He is very sorry for the mess of the flat
  79. James Elliott says (20:35)
  80. Let me tell you about this 2cb deal specifically
  81. forget the mess
  82. James Elliott says (20:36)
  83. I;m confused on this, so perhaps you can get an answer
  84. Cassie says (20:36)
  85. okay... i know about the cottage thing that you 3 were gonna do
  86. James Elliott says (20:36)
  87. ok, that was just part of it.
  88. It started ages ago when between them (don't know who's idea it was) they decided harry was going to make 2cb
  89. James Elliott says (20:37)
  90. I was never involved
  91. barley knew about it until it had happened
  92. in fact, never taken the stuff
  93. Cassie says (20:37)
  94. it was Harry's idea I have just been told
  95. James Elliott says (20:37)
  96. no doubt
  97. ed would always try and give advice
  98. harry would resist
  99. to and fro
  100. ed offered advice for free
  101. James Elliott says (20:38)
  102. harry would resist
  103. harry then failed and begged ed for help
  104. Cassie says (20:38)
  105. this much I know
  106. James Elliott says (20:38)
  107. when it actually came down to it, it turned out that ed's advice was, let's use james' knowledge of the scene and taking things to market. He admitted this. This was when he said about the partnership. Great, I thought, something we can all do together with our own parts to plau
  108. James Elliott says (20:39)
  109. this morning, Ed's out
  110. doesn't want to get involved. he's no good dealing with people, and harry wants a two-way partnership
  111. oh, ok I said.
  112. wanted to chat further, but ed had no time
  113. later, ed has a breakthrough with a us vendor
  114. James Elliott says (20:40)
  115. he says well, since harry only really wants to work with one other person, ya know
  116. aka, I'm out
  117. of something I was never really in
  118. now I raise it in conversation, and he's not sure what harry wants
  119. just 1 out of 1000 things he's handling and it's clear why things are like this
  120. Cassie says (20:41)
  121. just one sec
  122. James Elliott says (20:41)
  123. he needs to nail 100 things, rather than fail at 900, and do the rest averagely well. and he needs my help, but doesn't take it
  124. I need his help too
  125. but he's too busy to give it, because he doesn't take my help!!!
  126. vicious circle
  127. PV doesn't help either, for both of us
  128. gotta say
  129. and I'm more worried about harry
  130. James Elliott says (20:42)
  131. he injected it the other night you know (please don't say anything to him). ed knows
  132. and I do feel as if Ed, when in a certain mood, pushes it a little bit on him. To be fair, when he dangled it at him the other night, he realised straight away and apologised
  133. James Elliott says (20:43)
  134. but, we need to forget age with our friends
  135. and be responsible
  136. ed's as mature as me
  137. harry isn't
  138. nor is jack
  139. Cassie says (20:44)
  140. okay... Ed wanted to get you involved, yknow cause he thought it would make you happy and from the sounds of things, it did
  141. James Elliott says (20:44)
  142. oh BOLLOCKS
  143. tell him to rethink that one
  144. he asked for my help coz he'd run out of ideas
  145. he'd bigged it up to harry, and all he had at that point was one fellar who wasn't really interested
  146. James Elliott says (20:45)
  147. I can bring up the chat log if you want. I hinted that if he simply wanted advice, no problem. if he wanted me to be actively involved, I'd want  small cut
  148. he then realised about this partnership thing
  149. Cassie says (20:45)
  150. just stop there for a sec please...two conversations
  151. James Elliott says (20:46)
  152. now if he's saying that was all for my benefit, then he was either a liar then, or mistaken now
  153. just get him to tell me what he wants me to do with harry and the 2cb
  154. his choice
  155. always was
  156. James Elliott says (20:47)
  157. is now
  158. but don't change with the wind please
  159. pissing me off
  160. Cassie says (20:47)
  161. I'm playing messenger here, I'm not trying to change the wind at all.
  162. Ed says he seriously doesnt know but he hopes harry makes some money from it
  163. James Elliott says (20:48)
  164. dear god. when did ed sleep cass (don't ask him, just tell me)?
  165. Cassie says (20:48)
  166. not last night, night before
  167. James Elliott says (20:48)
  168. hmm ok.
  169. worried
  170. Cassie says (20:48)
  171. he will be sleeping tonight
  172. James Elliott says (20:48)
  173. ok simple question
  174. James Elliott says (20:49)
  175. he's told me three things today about the harry deal. I need him to pick one ok? (1) He's out because he can't deal with people very well? (2) I'm out because he suddenly found a hot new link, and the whole people thing doesn't matter anymore; (3) He hasn't got a clue, and the first two stories were just a symptom of his overloaded brain atm....
  176. James Elliott says (20:50)
  177. too much on
  178. too many people pulling him in different directions?
  179. I UNDERSTAND
  180. James Elliott says (20:51)
  181. I have things that are bad habits too. But he needs to let me know what to say to Harry. I can't ignore the subject, and we're about to look like idiots
  182. James Elliott says (20:53)
  183. Also, there's a LOAD of cloak and dagger between harry and ED's friend Joel
  184. they're cooking up all kinds of shit, which harry is likely to be left with, unable to sell.
  185. James Elliott says (20:54)
  186. Ed needs to have it out with Joel. Harry's using bromine in his bedroom
  187. nearly killed him. twice
  188. once with ed coming round to join in the chemistry (albeit after the very dangerous part)
  189. James Elliott said (20:55)
  190. that was the night he came back and made explosives
  191. now I'm glad he's found a new passion (seriously, I am), but they're not indifferent in their approach to things
  192. wait to get stung then think about what to do differently next time
  193. James Elliott said (20:56)
  194. scares the shit out of me
  195. ed's mixing bleach and other cleaning products. It CLEARLY contributed to skin irritation, twice. Mainly for him, but me a bit too.
  196. trying to clean pipes
  197. James Elliott said (20:57)
  198. BLEACH
  199. and then smoking it afterwards
  200. I'm worried cass and I don't know how to tell him or help him when he clearly doesn't respect my opinion on things
  201. James Elliott said (20:58)
  202. Ed always told me that Harry was more 'in control' than I realised
  203. I always said bollocks
  204. now our views are completely reversed
  205. harry is playing Ed for a bit of a fool I think (and me, to an extent, but I don't have any of these business dealings)
  206. James Elliott said (20:59)
  207. harry and joel are cooking A LOT of shit up (or plan to).
  208. harry REFUSED to help me one night when I really needed a chemical mind
  209. claimed he knew nothing about chemicals
  210. you should have heard his discussion with Joel. He was teaching Joel stuff. Ask Ed if he believes that?
  211. James Elliott said (21:09)
  212. if you're still there, which it doesn't look like, I need to sign-off and get all my forms filled in for tomorrow at the job centre. trying to get the rent paid for the next 3 months by the council. Not easy. Also gonna have to deal with an inspection at some point. Listen, I love ed to bits, and without his income recently, we'd have been fucked. Not trying to sound ungrateful.
  213. But I need this flat, and in particular the things I've spent years paying for an collecting to be treated more carefully.
  214. mess is one thing. damage is different
  215. James Elliott said (21:10)
  216. and tell Ed I honestly don't know who has seemed more reckless with chemicals recently, him or harry. I honestly couldn't tell you.
  217. This is worry, not criticism or anger.
  218. Worry