- James Elliott said (20:19)
- as;lfkjsald;fjsadkl
- anything???
- this is crazy
- James Elliott says (20:22)
- yay
- don't think u ever accepted me
- Cassie says (20:22)
- i did cause you were on my list and everything
- James Elliott says (20:22)
- hmmm I'll let you off
- u ok?
- Cassie says (20:23)
- I'm fine, just worried about things between you and Ed
- Ed has told me he's a little confused about the entirity of the problem...is there a problem?
- James Elliott says (20:24)
- no problem as such. don't really wanna talk behind his back. is he cool with this?
- Cassie says (20:24)
- yeah he is, he's expressly asked me
- James Elliott says (20:24)
- ok cool.
- James Elliott says (20:25)
- just surprised by a couple of things today that's all
- but I understand he spent a week in bed, and now he's catching up.
- gonna happen, and I do understand that
- just lots of pressure on both of us today it seems
- I have lazy weeks too
- Cassie says (20:25)
- what's happened today that surprised you? lets take this one at a time
- James Elliott says (20:26)
- ok, came back to a BOMB SITE. I know we're not always the tidiest, but omg, the state of my room, the kitchen, and my bathroom where a site to behold. Again, not a problem in itself. Just wanted to chat to ed about it. Hasn't been able to spare me 5 mins all day, apart from when he wanted to give me instructions to post something to him.
- James Elliott says (20:27)
- I gather something harry is involved with
- again, can't get it out of him
- too busy
- Cassie says (20:28)
- Alright, as for messiness, things probably wouldve been tidier if we weren't rushing to leave and that's kinda my fault as I got us up too late and pushed it timewise, so I apologise
- James Elliott says (20:28)
- not your fault. you didn't rearrange my room
- Cassie says (20:28)
- and honestly, Ed has been working practically none stop since we got back to York
- James Elliott says (20:28)
- I doubt anyway? lol
- I don't doubt that
- Cassie says (20:28)
- So I haven;t had much time either
- James Elliott says (20:29)
- I offered help all last week when he was in bed. Wanted to wait. Then we agreed to work as a partnership. Told everyone. First think I hear today. He's out of a deal with harry. Then he's back in, and I'm out. Now he's not sure. But doesn't have time to explain anything
- Cassie says (20:30)
- Yep, he's feeling rather pressured and tbh, when we were travelling back he was particularly pissed off and forgetting things and such, and I had caused him to miss someone online that he really needed to talk to
- Cassie says (20:31)
- whom he's now talked to
- James Elliott says (20:31)
- I know he's stressed cass, that's why it's cool. But it's not going to make me not mention it. And to be fair, I've been trying to raise things calmly all day. It just boiled over about 30 mins ago
- Cassie says (20:31)
- No, I understand completely why you'd want to bring things up and thats fair
- James Elliott says (20:32)
- Have you noticed the actual "damage" to this place. The bathroom was no-one's fault, forget that. Nearly everything in ed's room that belongs to me, is burned in some way or stained.
- he made explosives the other day in the kitchen. burned the living room table
- still not cleaned
- I can have NO-ONE round who knows me
- James Elliott says (20:33)
- because of these things
- I love him, don't get me wrong, but today or all days with my Dad & all, I just expected to come back to at least a room that I left
- not a bomb site with more of my stuff strewn everywhere
- Cassie says (20:34)
- ofc, I will admit, we did chill in your room when I finally woke up saturday
- James Elliott says (20:34)
- just got too much for me today, because all I wanted is for him to read an email about my dad. he's been promising all day that's all
- nothing else mattered, just the straw that broke the back ya know
- James Elliott says (20:35)
- I accept ed for ed, and he accepts james for james
- it's how it is.
- just today was a bad day, and he couldn't have been more absent or dismissive of things that he really should have been apologising for
- Cassie says (20:35)
- yeah, Ed is saying the same things, many other things are getting to him and he's under the pressure and you are too with your family and all that
- He is very sorry for the mess of the flat
- James Elliott says (20:35)
- Let me tell you about this 2cb deal specifically
- forget the mess
- James Elliott says (20:36)
- I;m confused on this, so perhaps you can get an answer
- Cassie says (20:36)
- okay... i know about the cottage thing that you 3 were gonna do
- James Elliott says (20:36)
- ok, that was just part of it.
- It started ages ago when between them (don't know who's idea it was) they decided harry was going to make 2cb
- James Elliott says (20:37)
- I was never involved
- barley knew about it until it had happened
- in fact, never taken the stuff
- Cassie says (20:37)
- it was Harry's idea I have just been told
- James Elliott says (20:37)
- no doubt
- ed would always try and give advice
- harry would resist
- to and fro
- ed offered advice for free
- James Elliott says (20:38)
- harry would resist
- harry then failed and begged ed for help
- Cassie says (20:38)
- this much I know
- James Elliott says (20:38)
- when it actually came down to it, it turned out that ed's advice was, let's use james' knowledge of the scene and taking things to market. He admitted this. This was when he said about the partnership. Great, I thought, something we can all do together with our own parts to plau
- James Elliott says (20:39)
- this morning, Ed's out
- doesn't want to get involved. he's no good dealing with people, and harry wants a two-way partnership
- oh, ok I said.
- wanted to chat further, but ed had no time
- later, ed has a breakthrough with a us vendor
- James Elliott says (20:40)
- he says well, since harry only really wants to work with one other person, ya know
- aka, I'm out
- of something I was never really in
- now I raise it in conversation, and he's not sure what harry wants
- just 1 out of 1000 things he's handling and it's clear why things are like this
- Cassie says (20:41)
- just one sec
- James Elliott says (20:41)
- he needs to nail 100 things, rather than fail at 900, and do the rest averagely well. and he needs my help, but doesn't take it
- I need his help too
- but he's too busy to give it, because he doesn't take my help!!!
- vicious circle
- PV doesn't help either, for both of us
- gotta say
- and I'm more worried about harry
- James Elliott says (20:42)
- he injected it the other night you know (please don't say anything to him). ed knows
- and I do feel as if Ed, when in a certain mood, pushes it a little bit on him. To be fair, when he dangled it at him the other night, he realised straight away and apologised
- James Elliott says (20:43)
- but, we need to forget age with our friends
- and be responsible
- ed's as mature as me
- harry isn't
- nor is jack
- Cassie says (20:44)
- okay... Ed wanted to get you involved, yknow cause he thought it would make you happy and from the sounds of things, it did
- James Elliott says (20:44)
- oh BOLLOCKS
- tell him to rethink that one
- he asked for my help coz he'd run out of ideas
- he'd bigged it up to harry, and all he had at that point was one fellar who wasn't really interested
- James Elliott says (20:45)
- I can bring up the chat log if you want. I hinted that if he simply wanted advice, no problem. if he wanted me to be actively involved, I'd want small cut
- he then realised about this partnership thing
- Cassie says (20:45)
- just stop there for a sec please...two conversations
- James Elliott says (20:46)
- now if he's saying that was all for my benefit, then he was either a liar then, or mistaken now
- just get him to tell me what he wants me to do with harry and the 2cb
- his choice
- always was
- James Elliott says (20:47)
- is now
- but don't change with the wind please
- pissing me off
- Cassie says (20:47)
- I'm playing messenger here, I'm not trying to change the wind at all.
- Ed says he seriously doesnt know but he hopes harry makes some money from it
- James Elliott says (20:48)
- dear god. when did ed sleep cass (don't ask him, just tell me)?
- Cassie says (20:48)
- not last night, night before
- James Elliott says (20:48)
- hmm ok.
- worried
- Cassie says (20:48)
- he will be sleeping tonight
- James Elliott says (20:48)
- ok simple question
- James Elliott says (20:49)
- he's told me three things today about the harry deal. I need him to pick one ok? (1) He's out because he can't deal with people very well? (2) I'm out because he suddenly found a hot new link, and the whole people thing doesn't matter anymore; (3) He hasn't got a clue, and the first two stories were just a symptom of his overloaded brain atm....
- James Elliott says (20:50)
- too much on
- too many people pulling him in different directions?
- I UNDERSTAND
- James Elliott says (20:51)
- I have things that are bad habits too. But he needs to let me know what to say to Harry. I can't ignore the subject, and we're about to look like idiots
- James Elliott says (20:53)
- Also, there's a LOAD of cloak and dagger between harry and ED's friend Joel
- they're cooking up all kinds of shit, which harry is likely to be left with, unable to sell.
- James Elliott says (20:54)
- Ed needs to have it out with Joel. Harry's using bromine in his bedroom
- nearly killed him. twice
- once with ed coming round to join in the chemistry (albeit after the very dangerous part)
- James Elliott said (20:55)
- that was the night he came back and made explosives
- now I'm glad he's found a new passion (seriously, I am), but they're not indifferent in their approach to things
- wait to get stung then think about what to do differently next time
- James Elliott said (20:56)
- scares the shit out of me
- ed's mixing bleach and other cleaning products. It CLEARLY contributed to skin irritation, twice. Mainly for him, but me a bit too.
- trying to clean pipes
- James Elliott said (20:57)
- BLEACH
- and then smoking it afterwards
- I'm worried cass and I don't know how to tell him or help him when he clearly doesn't respect my opinion on things
- James Elliott said (20:58)
- Ed always told me that Harry was more 'in control' than I realised
- I always said bollocks
- now our views are completely reversed
- harry is playing Ed for a bit of a fool I think (and me, to an extent, but I don't have any of these business dealings)
- James Elliott said (20:59)
- harry and joel are cooking A LOT of shit up (or plan to).
- harry REFUSED to help me one night when I really needed a chemical mind
- claimed he knew nothing about chemicals
- you should have heard his discussion with Joel. He was teaching Joel stuff. Ask Ed if he believes that?
- James Elliott said (21:09)
- if you're still there, which it doesn't look like, I need to sign-off and get all my forms filled in for tomorrow at the job centre. trying to get the rent paid for the next 3 months by the council. Not easy. Also gonna have to deal with an inspection at some point. Listen, I love ed to bits, and without his income recently, we'd have been fucked. Not trying to sound ungrateful.
- But I need this flat, and in particular the things I've spent years paying for an collecting to be treated more carefully.
- mess is one thing. damage is different
- James Elliott said (21:10)
- and tell Ed I honestly don't know who has seemed more reckless with chemicals recently, him or harry. I honestly couldn't tell you.
- This is worry, not criticism or anger.
- Worry