Late Night Skullgirls Insights (5/5/16)

Thursday, May 5, 2016
9:47 PM - Your chat with Citric Wastrel is now a multi-user chat.
9:48 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥ has been invited to chat.
9:48 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥ entered chat.
9:48 PM - Fenrir Highwind: righto
9:48 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I got in much smoother this time!
9:50 PM - Fenrir Highwind: luke pls
9:50 PM - Fenrir Highwind: stop eating free damage from super armor
9:50 PM - Citric Wastrel: aw man i was winning
9:50 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥ disconnected.
9:50 PM - Fenrir Highwind: rip luke's internet
9:51 PM - Citric Wastrel: i consider this a win but it's not as satisfying.
9:51 PM - Citric Wastrel: yo abe fite me
9:51 PM - Citric Wastrel: i'ma bash ur fookin ead in
9:51 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥ entered chat.
9:52 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: >Internet is perfectly reliable
9:52 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: >WiFi driver is not.
9:52 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Somebody remind me to get my ethernet cables together, omg.
9:53 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Think I'm going to need a new invite, sorry.
9:53 PM - Citric Wastrel: muh helth
9:54 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: All good now.
9:54 PM - Fenrir Highwind: mfw I'm not putting my training into practice
9:54 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Seriously gonna get the ethernet setup on my end; gaming from WiFi is dumb.
9:55 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I was having the same problem there; brain kinda stalled.
9:57 PM - Fenrir Highwind: rip in rip
9:57 PM - Fenrir Highwind: rekt in kill
9:57 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: WHOA WAS THAT LIKE- YOU GOT LIKE 10x BETTER OVERNIGHT
9:57 PM - Citric Wastrel: lol not even
9:57 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I need to get my executions straight, omg.
10:00 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OMG THOSE PUNS
10:00 PM - Citric Wastrel: ace finish tho
10:00 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, that came outta nowhere. I like it.
10:00 PM - Fenrir Highwind: mfw I had to force it to happen, tho
10:00 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: That doesn't seem easy to pull off, omg.
10:00 PM - Fenrir Highwind: it's like
10:00 PM - Fenrir Highwind: throw
10:00 PM - Fenrir Highwind: then 214PP
10:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: not hard per se
10:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: let's pretend I failed my no-damage run and leave it at that
10:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: (srsly what happen)
10:01 PM - Citric Wastrel: i unno
10:02 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Ouch. I wonder if I'm the weak link in the chain on WiFi?
10:02 PM - Citric Wastrel: gotta work for them perfects
10:03 PM - Fenrir Highwind: game pls
10:03 PM - Citric Wastrel: man i was doing semi good that time
10:03 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: This is really wtf inducing.
10:03 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Like, we're all on the east coast.
10:03 PM - Citric Wastrel: Lemme check my connection a sec.
10:04 PM - Fenrir Highwind: speedtest says my dl speed isn't being particularly screwy
10:04 PM - Citric Wastrel: Speedtest?
10:04 PM - Citric Wastrel: Link?
10:04 PM - Fenrir Highwind: http://www.speedtest.net/
10:04 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: How does each of our ping look? Yours and Citric's looks good.
10:04 PM - Fenrir Highwind: 76 Citric, 66 you
10:05 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Jeez, dunno what the problem is then.
10:05 PM - Citric Wastrel: My DL is at ~65Mbps.
10:05 PM - Fenrir Highwind: mine is 28 at best
10:06 PM - Fenrir Highwind: h8
10:06 PM - Citric Wastrel: My UL is at 4.26Mbps?
10:06 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: That's pretty good. I think the fastest I've seen mine go is like, 3MBs a second.
10:06 PM - Citric Wastrel: I dunno.
10:06 PM - Citric Wastrel: Should we try making a new lobby?
10:06 PM - Fenrir Highwind: that's roughly equal to 28~ down
10:07 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: The only other variable I can figure is if this game is P2P or server synced?
10:07 PM - Citric Wastrel: Making a new lobby worked last time.
10:07 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Either way, yeah, couldn't hurt to try that too.
10:08 PM - Citric Wastrel: Alright, let's give this a go.
10:08 PM - Fenrir Highwind: I can't tell from a cursory google search whether it's server or P2P
10:09 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: It shouldn't matter with our ping levels and connections in either case, I guess. As long as Steam's servers are reliable, if server-based, it'd all be okay.
10:10 PM - Citric Wastrel: i blame different stage
10:10 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Wow, dem moves. I know how the combos to each of them now, but I can't execute them all like that yet, omg.
10:11 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: *how to work
10:11 PM - Fenrir Highwind: the particular brand I'm using only works on tall people at all distances
10:12 PM - Citric Wastrel: see that time i landed a couple of hits at the start there
10:13 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: You basically had Peacock worn down, though, omg.
10:13 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: It's tough to get in her face.
10:13 PM - Fenrir Highwind: I like combos where I go from the ground to air-to-ground
10:13 PM - Citric Wastrel: Yeah in a 1v2 match so it doesn't amount to much.
10:13 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Since you have nobody to recover with by switching out, yeah.
10:13 PM - Fenrir Highwind: also, if I space it really well, it works on smaller people
10:15 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Oooo I got cornered, omg.
10:15 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but that's not practical to rely on for reasons
10:16 PM - Fenrir Highwind: so effective, tear shot to j.LP only works on tall people
10:16 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah. There are certain mid-air moves of Ms. Fortune I can't use on smaller characters as reliably.
10:16 PM - Fenrir Highwind: now if I can just actually use my training
10:16 PM - Citric Wastrel: argh i wanna back out
10:17 PM - Fenrir Highwind: rip
10:17 PM - Citric Wastrel: Figured it out.
10:17 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but yeah, I'm mostly disappointed in my performance thus far
10:19 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: And you're still beating us hardcore, omg.
10:19 PM - Fenrir Highwind: Peacock is ez mode if you don't give a shit about combos, but her combos are
10:19 PM - Fenrir Highwind: surprisingly difficult
10:19 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: And she has to play keep away most of the time.
10:21 PM - Fenrir Highwind: also, re: execution, it took me a double digit amount of games to really get used to Parasoul's combos in real matches
10:21 PM - Fenrir Highwind: like, I would execute fine in training mode, but I'd be a mess in matches
10:22 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, it's a lot more hectic in a real match with somebody.
10:22 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Also, I love how Double is like, an unholy amalgamation of different things, and still has perfectly visible boobs amidst all those blobs.
10:22 PM - Fenrir Highwind: the robo fortune out of nowhere
10:23 PM - Fenrir Highwind: is this the EVO pick?!
10:25 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OMG THAT ONE COMBINATION OF SPECIALS
10:25 PM - Fenrir Highwind: incidentally, that was the easier combo.
10:25 PM - Fenrir Highwind: it gets progressively more ridiculous as you get more meters
10:25 PM - Citric Wastrel: still looking at characters.
10:25 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but at minimum, it needs 2 meters to work
10:27 PM - Fenrir Highwind: press KK next to your chair to pick it up
10:27 PM - Fenrir Highwind: where KK=any two kick buttons together
10:27 PM - Fenrir Highwind: alternatively, you can pick it up by executing a grab next to it
10:28 PM - Citric Wastrel: lol these grabs
10:28 PM - Fenrir Highwind: professional wrestling boys
10:28 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OMG. Have you been practicing with that guy?
10:28 PM - Citric Wastrel: No.
10:28 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I wasn't prepared for those grabs.
10:28 PM - Citric Wastrel: I just keep mashing grab.
10:28 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: AND I STILL GOT WRECKED OMG
10:28 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I need to not get too close to him, then.
10:29 PM - Fenrir Highwind: must throw break
10:29 PM - Fenrir Highwind: I mean, I don't do it a lot, but
10:29 PM - Citric Wastrel: breaks throw before match even starts
10:29 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OMG THEIR REACTIONS
10:30 PM - Fenrir Highwind: these were me irl
10:30 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Ouch.
10:30 PM - Fenrir Highwind: lol this palette
10:31 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: POKED TO DEATH HAHA
10:32 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: And yeah, wasn't expecting that option, but Parasoul has one too. She looks kinda awesome with that dark skinned palette, in my opinion.
10:32 PM - Citric Wastrel: D:
10:32 PM - Fenrir Highwind: the BM is real
10:32 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: "I knew wrestling wasn't real the whole time!" OMG HAHAHAHA
10:33 PM - Fenrir Highwind: he looked Mexican
10:34 PM - Fenrir Highwind: sort of
10:34 PM - Fenrir Highwind: with the stache and all
10:34 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: HAHA
10:34 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Now that you mentioned it, yeah.
10:35 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Inb4 Nacho Libre.
10:35 PM - Fenrir Highwind: P R O F E S S I O N A L
10:35 PM - Fenrir Highwind: W R E S T L I N G
10:36 PM - Fenrir Highwind: lol wtf you can hit the head during that grab
10:36 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I WAS SO CLOSE TO DYING AAAA HE'S TOUGH
10:37 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I like those kinda surprises.
10:37 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: His chair is so unconventional.
10:37 PM - Fenrir Highwind: ok screw peacock 1v1 me  beowulf
10:37 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: DIS GON B GUD
10:39 PM - Citric Wastrel: dang guess we know who the jobber was in that match
10:39 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I WAS LEGIT LAUGHING AT THAT MATCH LIKE WOW THAT WAS AWESOME AND OVER THE TOP
10:39 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I didn't know he could do half of those moves.
10:39 PM - Citric Wastrel: How do I grab out of falls?
10:40 PM - Fenrir Highwind: er
10:40 PM - Fenrir Highwind: pardon?
10:41 PM - Fenrir Highwind: he did it
10:41 PM - Fenrir Highwind: he's learning how to wolf dive
10:41 PM - Fenrir Highwind: wow killing the hype
10:42 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: WON BY A HAIR HAHA OMG
10:42 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Beowulf is awesome.
10:42 PM - Citric Wastrel: still trying to figure out these setups
10:42 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Even at a basic level his defense are hard to get through.
10:42 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: *defenses, darn it brain.
10:44 PM - Citric Wastrel: Good match though
10:44 PM - Fenrir Highwind: 360 intenisifies
10:44 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Legit more fun than watching actual wrestling.
10:45 PM - Fenrir Highwind: sadly not that practical imo
10:45 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but his lvl.3 360+throw super is basically a freestyle
10:46 PM - Fenrir Highwind: you can do any of the throw moves for a short period of time
10:46 PM - Fenrir Highwind: which allows you to do cool shit
10:46 PM - Fenrir Highwind: which I sort of didn't do
10:46 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but anyway
10:46 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I am perpetually rusty with Cerebella, omg.
10:47 PM - Fenrir Highwind: his secondary mechanic, crowd hype, increases the power of that super
10:47 PM - Citric Wastrel: Huh...
10:47 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: That's a cool perk, getting the audience into the game a bit.
10:49 PM - Fenrir Highwind: ...I was not expecting that to hit
10:49 PM - Citric Wastrel: o well
10:49 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Was a subtle reference to milk advertisements? HAHA OMG THAT SPECIAL
10:49 PM - Citric Wastrel: timely 3 wolf moon reference
10:51 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OUCH, JUST OUCH
10:51 PM - Fenrir Highwind: post match BM strats
10:54 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: So close, omg.
10:54 PM - Citric Wastrel: didn't count time out
10:55 PM - Citric Wastrel: wow look at me 1 win and 14 losses
10:55 PM - Fenrir Highwind: don't worry
10:55 PM - Fenrir Highwind: it's really 15/0
10:55 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: HAHA OMG. We're getting better, though. Little by little.
10:55 PM - Citric Wastrel: I don't feel like I'm getting better, but I guess it's fine.
10:56 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I'm a little less sloppy with Ms. Fortune than I was yesterday.
10:56 PM - Fenrir Highwind: well, you used supers
10:56 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Like, I know two sets of moves I can chain together into a combo.
10:56 PM - Fenrir Highwind: 'I wasn't even trying'
10:56 PM - Fenrir Highwind: also, salty fanning
10:56 PM - Fenrir Highwind: that is a thing
10:56 PM - Citric Wastrel: What was that instant time out?
10:57 PM - Fenrir Highwind: I don't know
10:57 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: "NO PICTURES", that was funny at least.
10:57 PM - Fenrir Highwind: boy I can't wait to show off my 0 practice cerebella
10:58 PM - Citric Wastrel: I don't need your pity loss.
10:59 PM - Citric Wastrel: /sigh
10:59 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: JEEZ THAT BOMB
10:59 PM - Fenrir Highwind: what how did that chip so hard
10:59 PM - Citric Wastrel: Anyway, I guess that's enough skullgirls for tonight.
10:59 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I think specials chip away more damage than regular attacks, don't they?
11:00 PM - Fenrir Highwind: yes
11:00 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but you see that he was getting chunked super hard
11:00 PM - Fenrir Highwind: also, ggs Citric
11:00 PM - Fenrir Highwind: the bomb didn't even do damage to him, though
11:00 PM - Citric Wastrel: g16losses
11:00 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, it was fun man! Thanks for joining in.
11:00 PM - Citric Wastrel: Yeah no worries.
11:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: he died entirely from the super
11:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: instead of the super+bomb
11:01 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OMG
11:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: and he didn't even get hit
11:01 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, the bomb blew up well after the KO.
11:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: like how
11:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: well, not put in hit stun, you get the idea
11:01 PM - Citric Wastrel: Don't guards just break after a while?
11:01 PM - Fenrir Highwind: no not in this game
11:02 PM - Citric Wastrel: But I see the broken heart symbol all the time.
11:03 PM - Fenrir Highwind: that signifies that you got hit as a result of blocking the wrong way
11:03 PM - Fenrir Highwind: I think when you don't block a low attack?
11:03 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I wondered what that meant, haha.
11:03 PM - Citric Wastrel: Hm okay.
11:04 PM - Fenrir Highwind: in this game, though, the guard lasts as long as your ability to block from all directions
11:04 PM - Fenrir Highwind: the only way you can 'break' someone's guard is by chipping them 100-0
11:04 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but that never happens
11:04 PM - Citric Wastrel: Anyway, peacing out of this chat for the time being. I'll talk to you guys later.
11:04 PM - Fenrir Highwind: you can also just throw them
11:04 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, they prevented that in every way posible.
11:04 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: later!
11:04 PM - Citric Wastrel left chat.
11:04 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: It was an awesome time.
11:04 PM - Fenrir Highwind: later
11:06 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: SO CLOSE
11:06 PM - Fenrir Highwind: mfw lag
11:06 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: The lag didn't stop me much, but wow.
11:07 PM - Fenrir Highwind: ya
11:07 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Oops, hit the analog stick while I went to the controller.
11:07 PM - Fenrir Highwind: it was rolling back something fierce
11:07 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Ouch.
11:07 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Also, looks like some of Parasoul's moves have armor to them?
11:07 PM - Fenrir Highwind: yeah
11:07 PM - Fenrir Highwind: wait
11:07 PM - Fenrir Highwind: >Parasoul
11:07 PM - Fenrir Highwind: no wtf
11:09 PM - Fenrir Highwind: if you mean Cerebella, then yeah
11:09 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Ah. Seems like one of her moves couldn't be interrupted.
11:09 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I know Cerebella has some armor, but I wasn't sure about Parasoul.
11:09 PM - Fenrir Highwind: Parasoul does have invul with her [2]8HK
11:10 PM - Fenrir Highwind: maybe that's what you're thinking of
11:10 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: That might've been it, yeah.
11:12 PM - Fenrir Highwind: last
11:12 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: As in one more, or this is the last match?
11:12 PM - Fenrir Highwind: idk what it is, but it feels especially laggy for reasons
11:12 PM - Fenrir Highwind: as in one more, yeah
11:13 PM - Fenrir Highwind: also, gj, you're starting to use Cerebella super
11:13 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Maybe it's my end. I think the WiFi driver on Ubuntu is somewhat tempermental; might try to get my ethernet cables hooked in instead.
11:13 PM - Fenrir Highwind: (not how I would prefer it, but the intent appaears to be there)
11:13 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, it took me a while, haha.
11:13 PM - Fenrir Highwind: now if you can just combo into Ms. Fortune 236 super
11:13 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, that'd be awesome.
11:15 PM - Fenrir Highwind: hey look you also used Ms Fortune super
11:15 PM - Fenrir Highwind: except you didn't combo into it
11:15 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but
11:15 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I think there was just enough lag to mess with one of my combos, omg. Other than that, that match was pretty good too.
11:15 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, I'm still learning to chain it into other things.
11:16 PM - Fenrir Highwind: you used it, so that's a start
11:16 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: And I was too far away, omg.
11:16 PM - Fenrir Highwind: yeah
11:16 PM - Fenrir Highwind: it's the kind of super you only use if you're in the middle of a combo
11:16 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Your ping has shot up to 974ms, whoa. Must be both of us having bad ping.
11:16 PM - Fenrir Highwind: I'm seeing 933
11:16 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: For me? OMG
11:16 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Wonder where that came from, wtf.
11:17 PM - Fenrir Highwind: my dl speed hasn't gone to shit
11:17 PM - Fenrir Highwind: so idk
11:17 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Mine hasn't either; can't think of what it is if both of our pings have shot up.
11:17 PM - Fenrir Highwind: but in any case, I look forward to more even matches
11:17 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: The match was still playable, though.
11:17 PM - Fenrir Highwind: yeah, it wasn't unplayable bad
11:17 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, it'll get better as I get used to adding those specials into other combos.
11:18 PM - Fenrir Highwind: testament to GGPO netcode
11:18 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Gotta love how well that's put together.
11:18 PM - Fenrir Highwind: I wish it was standard in other games
11:18 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: It doesn't feel like a throwaway addition to the game at all.
11:18 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Some games just have it because they can.
11:18 PM - Fenrir Highwind: with rollback netcode
11:18 PM - Fenrir Highwind: you can legitimately play vs. Japanese people
11:18 PM - Fenrir Highwind: and not have th match be a slideshow
11:19 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OMG- and that's usually an issue.
11:19 PM - Fenrir Highwind: ya
11:19 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Like, Japanese players complain how badly Americans lag and visa versa.
11:19 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: It's really forward thinking.
11:19 PM - Fenrir Highwind: a common knock vs. online play is that lag is an ever-changing constant
11:19 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Especially since Skullgirls was released in Japan.
11:19 PM - Fenrir Highwind: here's a fun fact, btw
11:20 PM - Fenrir Highwind: in development, Peacock's bombs were originally called Fat Man and Little Boy
11:20 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: I can see where they would get those names, OMG-
11:20 PM - Fenrir Highwind: however
11:20 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Reference to more older cartoons?
11:20 PM - Fenrir Highwind: no not really
11:20 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Oh. Anyway, didn't meant to interrupt.
11:20 PM - Fenrir Highwind: they were the names of the nukes dropped on Japan in 1945
11:21 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OH HOLY- yeah, major oops that would've been.
11:21 PM - Fenrir Highwind: they name-changed to Lenny and George
11:21 PM - Fenrir Highwind: which references the characters in 'Of Mice and Men'
11:21 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: That sounds better to boot.
11:21 PM - Fenrir Highwind: ya
11:21 PM - Fenrir Highwind: also, iirc
11:21 PM - Fenrir Highwind: Lenny is the big bomb
11:22 PM - Fenrir Highwind: if I twist it hard enough
11:22 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Now I can blame everything on Lenny. *bricked*
11:22 PM - Fenrir Highwind: the fact that you're practically encouraged to blow up the bomb to do tons of damage while it just sits there minding its own business
11:22 PM - Fenrir Highwind: is a reference to Lenny being a generally nice guy
11:22 PM - Fenrir Highwind: who's brain-damaged
11:22 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: That's ridiculously clever.
11:22 PM - Fenrir Highwind: and doesn't know his own strength
11:23 PM - Fenrir Highwind: so he gets George in trouble a lot
11:23 PM - Fenrir Highwind: mostly good for the labor
11:23 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: The thoughts that went into this game keep getting deeper as you bring up stuff, wow.
11:23 PM - Fenrir Highwind: it came to a head when Lenny accidentally killed a guy's wife
11:24 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Ouch. I didn't know the story went like that.
11:24 PM - Fenrir Highwind: she liked the look of him and gave him some affection
11:24 PM - Fenrir Highwind: which would have worked if Lenny wasn't brain damaged
11:24 PM - Fenrir Highwind: as is, he returned the affection, I think?
11:24 PM - Fenrir Highwind: and accidentally broke her neck
11:24 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Jeez. That's a pretty dark story.
11:25 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: More context to a big bomb than I imagined it would have.
11:25 PM - Fenrir Highwind: the guy is understandably pissed
11:25 PM - Fenrir Highwind: and wants Lenny dead
11:25 PM - Fenrir Highwind: George doesn't want him to get chased down by a mob and killed, though...
11:25 PM - Fenrir Highwind: so he takes Lenny outside and they talk about stuff
11:26 PM - Fenrir Highwind: and he shoots Lenny in the back of the head
11:26 PM - Fenrir Highwind: never saw it coming.
11:26 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Whoa. In a way, that's more merciful than what he would have got.
11:26 PM - Fenrir Highwind: yeah
11:27 PM - Fenrir Highwind: and in a meta way, you're basicially re-enacting that series of events every time you do bomb super into laser bullets super
11:27 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, it's really meta if you think about it, omg. Kinda amazing how what seems like a throwaway object in a game could've had so much thought put into it.
11:29 PM - Fenrir Highwind: to be fair, I think the names were just picked because Peacock is a ball of references to old-as-shit cartoons and the 1900s
11:29 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: She has it written all over her, omg. Even her shotgun and furniture she throws fits the period.
11:30 PM - Fenrir Highwind: there is thought that went into it, but I think it more went like
11:30 PM - Fenrir Highwind: 'shit guys what the fuck are you doing, you can't sell a character that literally uses Fat Man and Little Boy as bombs'
11:30 PM - Fenrir Highwind: 'uh uh uh uhhhhhh'
11:30 PM - Fenrir Highwind: '...hey guys, any of you read 'Of Mice and Men?'
11:31 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: That's a reasonable conclusion to draw on that one.
11:31 PM - Fenrir Highwind: anything else is an afterthought or people reading further into it than the devs did
11:31 PM - Fenrir Highwind: like me
11:31 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Probably the backers thinking about it, yeah.
11:32 PM - Fenrir Highwind: ya
11:32 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: There are quite a few instances where the fans overthink things. Like, recently, the director of Disney's Aladdin confirmed one theory about the film, but blew all the rest out of the water as false.
11:33 PM - Fenrir Highwind: man, you don't have to tell me
11:33 PM - Fenrir Highwind: just look at Freedom Planet
11:33 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Kinda amazing how an existing work can be interpreted by the consumer, omg.
11:33 PM - Fenrir Highwind: also, can we continue convo on Discord
11:33 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: OMG THE THEORIES AROUND FREEDOM PLANET
11:33 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: If you want, yeah.
11:33 PM - Fenrir Highwind: sweet
11:33 PM - Fenrir Highwind: ggs, btw
11:34 PM - ♥💖 Sugar Dots 💖 ♥: Yeah, great games!