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Angus Meltdown

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  2. Re: Rank and file members should know whats going on
  3. From: Angus Ritchie
  4. Sent: 2015.04.17 00:24
  5. To: Desiderya, Milo Caman, Zanzibar Heroshima
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  7. I know the ways of the woman are to keep these sorts of things secret and in the dark. So i will make sure that the right ppl in and out of Ushra khan get a copy of them for their information and entertainment. o/
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  10. Re: Rank and file members should know whats going on
  11. From: Angus Ritchie
  12. Sent: 2015.04.16 23:18
  13. To: Harkon Thorson,
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  15. I thought he would compliment your Gypsy fortune telling talents and he might come in handy for shouting at people at any nurmeburg rallies you might hold in the future. As for the rest of the crap ytou wrote im too bored with this shite you have written to even bother to respond. Suffice to point out these few points. When a meeting is held in the free world all sides are usually litened to and no extar sensory perception is used. It is then voted on and even though you are used to getting your own way being petulant or trying to burn down the reichstag will not help matters for long. or the Russians will definatley get involved. Also it is a commonly held belief in the free world that men act with honor dignity and forthrightness, showing courage and fortitude and batteling their adversities in honorable 'open' conflict. Rather than sneaking around telling lies, half truths and gypsy fortune teller tricks. These are the ways of women. and you will not get into Valhalla for fighting like a woman. Regards Angus o/ Heil!
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  18. Re: Rank and file members should know whats going on
  19. From: Harkon Thorson
  20. Sent: 2015.04.16 13:33
  21. To: Angus Ritchie,
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  23. Greetings!
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  25. You still haven´t got the point.
  26. As for the remove you tend to interupt people that do not share your opinion and call them childish, bullys and so on. Why don´t you just accept that there are other opinions as you claim to hold up to the "free world" where everyone is free in his opinion. As you´ve done so in the past and we all knew that you would do it again right away when Danjoe stated his point of view (he will not lead fleets for the duration of the war). When you were removed none was realy unhappy as it was realy late and I for my part have heard you opinion on Bio and the wardec about 5 times. As you stated yourself we all knew your position and there was simply no point in another 15 minute speach because you would only be offending again and it would not change the position of Danjoe or one of the others. You might be right that it´s not very polite to be treated like that and from todays point I propably should have returned you but as allready told as you can´t stand another opinion then yours while claiming to be the only one not allowed to have one it would have escalated in a other way I guess.
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  28. As for the "secret" vote we held without you:
  29. You had allready made your point and so did Danjoe. Several other Corps had done so via mail and if you´d listen to our talk with agha you should have known mine as well. So there was just me telling them why I´m voting for the wardec. The reasons you can read in the mail to the council. This has nothing to do with being a coward as I just try to be a ceo and take the different opinions within my corp into account. I know you would rather kick someone that does not agree with you as you have shown in the past. So much for the freedom of speak you talked of. Taking the opinions of my corpmates (and others in militia) that were not involved in the civil war and that do not share the bad blood I made a suggestion to get even those behind a wardec which I was all for from the beginning and if you say something else then give proof. And DEMANDING to drop Bio/Winmatar and other things or be wardeced is not "politly asking them" but I guess you don´t even know the meaning of the word polite.
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  31. On undermining you since you came here:
  32. It was Danjoe that voted for you and I did as well vote for taking you into the alliance. When you havn´t felt welcome here Im sorry but maybe you should review your own behavior (a thing you seem hardly able of) and you might find some reasons why we never got very friendly.
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  34. As for the "threats":
  35. I tried to make you stop ranging for no reason. I mean what do you thing will happen when you call someone the things you did? Do you thing he will be willing to still be in an alliance with you? You try to be the victim here but you´ve done this all by yourself while not listening to reason. Those threats were warnings that you will get everyone pissed off and so you did.
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  37. At the end I realy hope you see the irony that while claiming this all "happend to you" because of your opinion it is your lack of understanding for other points of view and your antisocial behavior that have brought you here. And you can rage and see backstabbing everywhere but in the end we both know thats just fantasies and pretexts.
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  39. If you are ready for a reasonable talk Im ready as I allready told you.
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  41. best regards
  42. Harkon
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  45. Re: Fw: Rank and file members should know whats going on
  46. From: Angus Ritchie
  47. Sent: 2015.04.16 09:21
  48. To: DeT Resprox
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  51. I wasnt aware U.K was a company and the members of the corps were employees , i was lead to believe it was an alliance where members were represented by their corp ceo's fairly and individual corps were respected in the alliance on an equal basis. But what i find is some petty minded individuals jealously guard their little bit of power and trying to undermine those individuals not in their clique in order to dictate what people will say or think or what opinions will be heard, it may surprise the 'staff' how they are regarded and represented.
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  54. Re: Fw: Rank and file members should know whats going on
  55. From: DeT Resprox
  56. Sent: 2015.04.16 08:52
  57. To: Angus Ritchie,
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  59. UK COUNCIL mailing list, you joined it the other night. You're still also a member of the chat channel.
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  61. No they dont need to know that, Council issues with other council members should stay amongst the council.
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  63. If you were to run around work mailing all staff members that the directors were bad and even mailed them in, you'd be fired.
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  65. The mailing list is above in this post as it was in the previous. You will not see it if you are using EvEGate.
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  68. Re: Fw: Rank and file members should know whats going on
  69. From: Angus Ritchie
  70. Sent: 2015.04.16 08:45
  71. To: DeT Resprox
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  73. talk to the council Det? i cant even get in the council, i was in the council and removed. Im left with no choice but to let ppl know that only 'certain' ppl get an opinion in the council and only if they belong to the right 'clique' if you dont have the right opinion you are just removed and labeled a trouble maker. I think the rank and file need to know that.
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  75. Fw: Rank and file members should know whats going on
  76. From: DeT Resprox
  77. Sent: 2015.04.16 08:27
  78. To: Angus Ritchie,
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  80. Can you not come and talk to me or the council instead of airing this sort of stuff all over an alliance mail :(
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