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  1. The secular humanists organizations principals
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism#Council_for_Secular_Humanism
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  4. Need to test beliefs – A conviction that dogmas, ideologies and traditions, whether religious, political or social, must be weighed and tested by each individual and not simply accepted by faith.
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  6. Means everyone will just rationlize what they prefer in the first place anyway. Will alienate people based on the slightest differences due to biases exacerbating those minute differences. Going by this none of this objective so you could not apply secular humanism to everyone and if a pedophile rapist says he is being good and moral you have no grounds to disagree with him because by the lines of secular humanism he WILL be moral since ultimately all beliefs all unto him. Valuing indivdiual reason above all else just leads to nihilism.
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  8. Reason, evidence, scientific method – A commitment to the use of critical reason, factual evidence and scientific method of inquiry in seeking solutions to human problems and answers to important human questions.
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  10. Again people will just use reason to serve what they already want. People ignore evidence and reasoning even if it 100% proves them wrong, it makes them beleive it more. This will just lead to people being 100% sure they are rational, will make them think less of the other groups, become egotistical and prideful, and same points as previous one.
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  12. Fulfillment, growth, creativity – A primary concern with fulfillment, growth and creativity for both the individual and humankind in general.
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  14. doesn't even mean anything, you need a standard by which people need to better meet. Not just "better" in general. People can't just improve generally they can only better meet certain measures
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  16. Search for truth – A constant search for objective truth, with the understanding that new knowledge and experience constantly alter our imperfect perception of it.
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  18. Wow cognitive dissonance going off. but
  19. >our perception of truth is imperfect through the measures we use but we will just keep changing it based on whatever stimuli we happen to get
  20. >everything comes down to the individual (need to test beleifs) yet at the same time somehow objective truth exists
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  23. This life – A concern for this life (as opposed to an afterlife) and a commitment to making it meaningful through better understanding of ourselves, our history, our intellectual and artistic achievements, and the outlooks of those who differ from us.
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  25. Doesnt' really mean anything unless morals dont matter. (People dont just act moral to get into heaven)
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  27. Ethics – A search for viable individual, social and political principles of ethical conduct, judging them on their ability to enhance human well-being and individual responsibility.
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  30. okay so they have no objective morality (wow gee who would have guessed) but okay so moral principals are just determined on if they enhance well-being (vauge and doesn't mean anything) and personal responsibility?? I dont see why that would be an imperative this one seems less thought out even then the rest. but again (need to test beleifs) doesn't matter becuase people can disagree and according to this they are still correct. so ultimately it means
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  32. If you think you are rational and you think you are moral you are 100% moral and no one can dispute that. Notice your morals don't actually need reasoned foundation because people are irrational (my whole point) and can think they are rational and not actually have any reading or basis in moral philosophy to back up any of their ideas whatsoever. (everyone does this, you did, and I do as well. Because reason isnt the only method for finding truth) By saying rejecting morality that isn't totally based on rationalism you deny that part of yourself. It just leads to weird rationalizations that dont make sense (determining specific cases in everything where stuff is wrong) because your searching to understand your ideas strictly with reason when that isn't how you gained them.
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  34. Justice and fairness – an interest in securing justice and fairness in society and in eliminating discrimination and intolerance.[27]
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  37. > Need to test beliefs
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  39. >if you have wrong beleifs we will make sure you dont somehow?
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  41. good double think here, peopel will just come up with shit they dont like about stuff they dont like use whatever post-hoc justification for it. Societies cannot function without discrimination.
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  43. Discriminating by skill, by gender for partners, by age for school, by intelligence for jobs. Bascially everything is totally essential. Also the intolerance thing is in itself hypocritical (not tolerating intolerance) but it provides insights to the earlier point. There is no objective morality but intolerance is objectively bad regardless of your opinions and reason about it. This is just SJW shit (and many of them will call themselves secular humanists) (justice in society hmm)
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  45. Building a better world – A conviction that with reason, an open exchange of ideas, good will, and tolerance, progress can be made in building a better world for ourselves and our children.
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  48. covered basically all of this before
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  50. ignoring technology I'd say kids were much better off in the past. If you just look at the modern state of decadence, hedonism, nihilism, depression, mentall illness, and hostility as comes from modernism and secular humanism I'm not sure how it's possible to advocate for.
  51. The most secular humanist places are just filled with peopel who hate themselves and are scared of doing anything (ignoring their kids getting raped, bring in immigrants because they literally aren't breeding, never maintain relationships, mentall illness and that lot as well)
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