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  1. [01:36:20] <Sinclair> I'm reading through "Bad Applications", by the way.
  2. [01:36:24] <Sinclair> Who filed that one?
  3. [01:36:26] <Sinclair> I would hate to be them.
  4. [01:36:34] <Wogglebug> Bright does apps.
  5. [01:36:43] <Wogglebug> Bright would hate to be you too.
  6. [01:36:51] * salvagebar has quit (Ping timeout: 184 seconds)
  7. [01:38:01] <Sinclair> There's a friend I would invite to the Foundation except I don't think he'd be able to distinguish User!Bright from LOL!Bright from Serious!Bright, and he'd go on that list too.
  8. [01:38:30] <Wogglebug> Now old is he?
  9. [01:38:42] <Sinclair> 19.
  10. [01:38:57] <Bright> .nala .nala
  11. [01:38:58] <Wogglebug> thenyofriendneedssomelearnin
  12. [01:38:59] <Sinclair> A triumph of Australian education.
  13. [01:39:05] <Wogglebug> It's just the one Bright.
  14. [01:39:06] <Bright> .nala
  15. [01:39:07] * Nala is a version 2.30 AnnaBot created by Raven Mackenzie (last updated 2013-03-11), currently indexing 1,968 articles, 187 supplementary pages, 187 unused slots, 1,057 tales, 21 guides, and 22 essays by 617 authors as of 2013-06-24 22:35:42 PDT (10 m 21 s ago).
  16. [01:39:22] <Slate> Well, it's like the joke goes
  17. [01:39:37] <Bright> The lsit was supposed to be a joke...but too many people treat it like it's canon for bright to act that way
  18. [01:39:53] <Slate> A Canadian soldier is sitting in a trench in WW1 with a fresh Aussie conscript
  19. [01:40:05] <Slate> And he looks at the young soldier and asks
  20. [01:40:14] <Slate> "Friend, did you come here to die?
  21. [01:40:23] <Slate> And the Australian says
  22. [01:40:32] <Slate> "Nah mate, I came here yesterday."
  23. [01:41:00] <Sinclair> Slate: :|
  24. [01:41:03] <vezaz> :l
  25. [01:41:09] * Salmander (~salmander@synIRC-8429A36.cg.shawcable.net) has joined
  26. [01:41:13] <Sinclair> That actually works better if the Canadian is a South African.
  27. [01:41:14] <Slate> It's an accent joke.
  28. [01:41:16] <Sinclair> At least from my point of view.
  29. [01:41:17] <Aelanna> Bright: You are the last bastion of LolFoundation.
  30. [01:41:26] <Aelanna> Since everything else has been removed, people assume that yours is 'acceptable' somehow.
  31. [01:41:34] <Slate> South African accents are great
  32. [01:41:39] <Aelanna> The /responsible/ thing to do would be to remove the list. I for one don't see why it's so prominent.
  33. [01:41:39] <Sinclair> Bright: I am so sorry for any day I have ever caused you trouble. Just looking at the Bad Applications list is painful.
  34. [01:41:41] <Aelanna> But that's just me.
  35. [01:41:56] <vezaz> if we killed it off entirely people would start going after the J's
  36. [01:41:58] <Slate> Mostly becaause they confuse anyone who has never heard a South African accent
  37. [01:42:21] <Wogglebug> Aelanna: I got to the site through that list.
  38. [01:42:31] * Aelanna shrugs
  39. [01:42:46] <Aelanna> All I'm saying is that it's hypocritical to say "no more lolfoundation" and still have stuff like that list.
  40. [01:42:48] * Gargus (Mibbit@synIRC-2BBAFACE.client.mchsi.com) has joined
  41. [01:42:52] <vezaz> The J's undercut every serious scp and aren't in fitting with the tone of the foundation we work hard to create.
  42. [01:42:54] <Gargus> Huh...
  43. [01:42:54] <Aelanna> I'm well aware of its so called "site cultural value"
  44. [01:43:00] * Gargus looks
  45. [01:43:04] <Aelanna> But, well, staff don't like to change things
  46. [01:43:10] <Gargus> So I come back to a discussion on that.
  47. [01:43:20] <vezaz> I think there's room for multiple visions, one lol, one not
  48. [01:43:31] <Roget> I think the responsible thing to do is keep an entertaining piece
  49. [01:43:33] <Roget> that people like
  50. [01:43:33] * anqxyr (~anqxyr@2C19476C.F96069C5.B64271A7.IP) has joined
  51. [01:43:35] <vezaz> instead of cracking down we ought come up with a way to channel it, perhaps through the canon system
  52. [01:43:41] <Roget> because we are here as an entertainment source
  53. [01:43:48] <Gargus> In all honesty
  54. [01:43:58] <Gargus> I think our tone has been shot to hell for about a year and a half now.
  55. [01:44:07] <vezaz> gargus ?
  56. [01:44:15] <TheAlly> Roget speaks true
  57. [01:44:18] <Gargus> And not because of the flood of new folks
  58. [01:44:21] * Vince|Mobile has quit (Client exited)
  59. [01:44:24] <Roget> Thank you theally
  60. [01:44:31] * Aelanna yawns
  61. [01:44:36] <Roget> newbies are stupid and imitate stuff because they are stupid newbies
  62. [01:44:39] <Gargus> Just because, going off of what I've observed, the site seems to inable to hold one, steady tone anymore
  63. [01:44:47] <vezaz> that's hardly a bad thing
  64. [01:44:51] <vezaz> the site is growing
  65. [01:44:54] <Gargus> Of course not
  66. [01:44:54] <Roget> if we removed lolfoundation, they'd just latch onto somethign else
  67. [01:44:56] <vezaz> it'd be boring if everything sounded the same
  68. [01:44:57] <Aelanna> Or perhaps staff aren't doing enough to guide newbies.
  69. [01:45:06] <Aelanna> Out of a misplaced notion that "stuff ain't broke"
  70. [01:45:07] <Gargus> I'm just saying that cutting J's because we want to still be spooky serious
  71. [01:45:10] <Gargus> It's a bit dumb
  72. [01:45:11] <Wogglebug> Or perhaps they are doing too much.
  73. [01:45:25] <Roget> I think we are doing way too much in the guides
  74. [01:45:29] <Gargus> Maybe it's just because I've got a J
  75. [01:45:30] <vezaz> gargus that was a nonserious comment
  76. [01:45:30] <Wogglebug> Out of a mistaken notion of EVERYTHING AM BECOME BORK
  77. [01:45:39] * Xiao has quit (Ping timeout)
  78. [01:45:43] <Roget> This is why troy is smoothing em out
  79. [01:45:50] <vezaz> gargus I love the J's
  80. [01:45:56] <Aelanna> I think that equating "guidance" with "the guides" is a perfect illustration of how out-of-touch current staff are with the delicate act of moderating an online community.
  81. [01:46:10] <Aelanna> But what do I know, I'm just an angry bitch.
  82. [01:46:15] <Roget> Guides do provide some initial guidance
  83. [01:46:21] <Aelanna> hahahahaha
  84. [01:46:25] <Aelanna> no. no they don't.
  85. [01:46:27] <Aelanna> they don't do shit
  86. [01:46:39] <Roget> The initial guidance of "this is our site, here are our rules"
  87. [01:46:51] <Gargus> I never read any of the guides aside from the ones needed to get into the site
  88. [01:47:01] <picone> I've read a few of them
  89. [01:47:05] <Gargus> And really only revisited them for formatting my first few skips.
  90. [01:47:08] <Wogglebug> I read all of them, and all the essays.
  91. [01:47:09] <Aelanna> The people who are reading the guides are the people who won't be a problem to begin with.
  92. [01:47:13] <Aelanna> The people who do their due diligence.
  93. [01:47:16] <Gargus> Which, since my first few skips crashed
  94. [01:47:23] <Gargus> Well, since /most/ of my skips crashed
  95. [01:47:32] <Gargus> Wasn't worth a whole hell of a lot.
  96. [01:47:47] <Roget> So, the shortening of the guides with troy helps them provide guidance to more people
  97. [01:47:48] <Gargus> Course, I wrote my first few before the huge glut of guides
  98. [01:47:52] <Gargus> So take that for what you will
  99. [01:47:53] <Roget> because fewer folks go tl;dr
  100. [01:48:01] * Aelanna rolls eyes
  101. [01:48:10] <Aelanna> Delusional.
  102. [01:48:13] <vezaz> I think we have plenty of guidance, too much of it; though all in all I think the site rolls along pretty well
  103. [01:48:21] <vezaz> I think we're lucky that we have no serious problems.
  104. [01:48:26] <Roget> That's a bit rude
  105. [01:48:32] <Roget> (not you vez)
  106. [01:49:09] <vezaz> Think about it, everything staff works on, are about preference, moderating comments etc; troublesome users come into line or are banned quickly; we get plenty of new submissions and some are even good;
  107. [01:49:09] <picone> Gargus: I get the impression most SCPs crash
  108. [01:49:16] <vezaz> there are no real problems with our model;
  109. [01:49:20] * Snowshoe (~cgiirc@D815940.8471B608.7EBC6036.IP) has joined
  110. [01:49:23] <vezaz> the canons have injected a breath of fresh air
  111. [01:49:28] <vezaz> and the community feels healthier than ever
  112. [01:49:31] <Shoe> G'night, chaps
  113. [01:49:34] <vezaz> so even as we go about trying to fix things
  114. [01:49:34] * HatMan has left
  115. [01:49:34] * Shoe has quit (Quit: bedtime)
  116. [01:49:37] <Aelanna> stop making me laugh out loud
  117. [01:49:42] <vezaz> it's comforting to know that we're in good shape.
  118. [01:49:42] <Aelanna> it's late and people are asleep~
  119. [01:49:53] * Wogglebug detects hatorade condensing in the air
  120. [01:50:00] <vezaz> except for people who love to make nasty remarks about an internet writing community.
  121. [01:50:05] <vezaz> but there's no fixing that.
  122. [01:50:08] <Roget> Aelanna we're trying to have a discussion, you're being a bit condescending
  123. [01:50:18] * Wogglebug turns on a fan to blow the hatorade out a window
  124. [01:50:22] <Gargus> I want to go to sleep
  125. [01:50:24] <Aelanna> No, you guys are circlejerking.
  126. [01:50:25] <Gargus> But I also don't want to.
  127. [01:50:28] <Gargus> It's weird.
  128. [01:50:29] <Aelanna> Reassuring yourselves that everything is fine.
  129. [01:50:32] <Aelanna> You are all blind
  130. [01:50:41] <Jekeled> Aelanna: Are you being serious?
  131. [01:50:44] <Aelanna> Completely, absolutely oblivious to shit that goes wrong.
  132. [01:50:47] * Sophos peeks into the channel
  133. [01:50:48] <Roget> Like
  134. [01:50:49] <Roget> what
  135. [01:50:55] <Jekeled> Aelanna: Because if not then you'd better get the fucking orchestra to get the sting.
  136. [01:50:57] <vezaz> oh hell aelanna, if it's all so bad, why don't you quit? Ah, that's right, you did. But you came back. Why? Because at the end you like it here, as we do too.
  137. [01:51:07] <vezaz> and if there were anything that awful going on you'd have /stayed away./
  138. [01:51:25] <vezaz> It's the same reason I quit and came back.
  139. [01:51:26] <Wogglebug> HEY
  140. [01:51:33] <Wogglebug> Hows about a new topic or summat.
  141. [01:51:37] <Wogglebug> This one feels angry.
  142. [01:51:39] <Aelanna> Nah. That's a pretty silly assumption.
  143. [01:51:40] <Gargus> Let's just talk
  144. [01:51:44] <Gargus> About things
  145. [01:51:45] <Sinclair> So guys.
  146. [01:51:45] <Aelanna> Just like many other assumptions that are going on.
  147. [01:51:46] <Gargus> And stuff.
  148. [01:51:48] <Sinclair> How's about this weather we're having?
  149. [01:51:49] <Gargus> How's that sound
  150. [01:51:53] <Gargus> It's hard to be mad about things and stuff
  151. [01:51:55] <Wogglebug> Wow that weather
  152. [01:51:56] <TheAlly> I like cranberry muffind
  153. [01:52:04] <Sophos> Wow, it's like pile-on-Aelanna day or something
  154. [01:52:04] <TheAlly> *muffins
  155. [01:52:06] <rumetzen> guys
  156. [01:52:08] <Gargus> I mean, it's things and stuff
  157. [01:52:14] <Gargus> It's perfectly neutral
  158. [01:52:20] <rumetzen> merry and pippin are the best characters in the lotr movies and doctopus is a stupid butt right
  159. [01:52:24] <Aelanna> Kittens are adorable.
  160. [01:52:34] <Wogglebug> Kittens /are/ adorable.
  161. [01:52:34] <Aelanna> I'm going to bed, but I'm going to just leave this here:
  162. [01:52:43] <Wogglebug> I hope it's a kitten.
  163. [01:52:43] <Sinclair> rumetzen: why do you have to bring in your VENDETTAS
  164. [01:52:45] <Talanic> there's a couple things that I'd like to discuss - things I've seen said as foundation policy
  165. [01:52:46] <Gargus> Even kittens without faces are adorable
  166. [01:52:47] <Sinclair> no, Merry and Pippin are stupid butts.
  167. [01:53:05] <Sinclair> Dominic Monaghan is okay though.
  168. [01:53:06] <Sinclair> mmm.
  169. [01:53:07] <rumetzen> Sinclair, a) my vendettas are the only reason I get up in the morning
  170. [01:53:11] <rumetzen> b) shut your stupid face
  171. [01:53:15] <Aelanna> The fact that y'all are piling on me and trying to silence me pretty much illustrates the "ignore the bad stuff" mindset that permeates the operation of this site. Staff are promoted purely on their writing ability, which is a terrible way to run anything.
  172. [01:53:19] <Gargus> Although if we must hate something
  173. [01:53:29] <Gargus> Let's hate on Buzzfeed
  174. [01:53:30] <Aelanna> So... be blind if you want, I don't care. <3
  175. [01:53:32] <Wogglebug> :(
  176. [01:53:37] <Gargus> And their list of the 50 hottest Harry Potter characters
  177. [01:53:38] <Wogglebug> Whyyyyyyyyyyy
  178. [01:53:39] <Gargus> That's something to hate
  179. [01:53:42] <Aelanna> G'night~
  180. [01:53:48] <Wogglebug> Mack: don't be that way.
  181. [01:53:49] * Aelanna has quit (Quit: )
  182. [01:53:50] <Sinclair> rumetzen: a) what, you wake up in the morning and think, "I need to go collect a few pounds of flesh?"
  183. [01:53:56] <rumetzen> Yes
  184. [01:53:57] <Sinclair> b) MAKE me. You're not my real dad.
  185. [01:54:06] * Waxx has quit (Quit: )
  186. [01:54:06] <rumetzen> don't make me get my fucking belt boy
  187. [01:54:07] <Salmander> bro u even lift
  188. [01:54:11] * Gargus looks over the whole fiasco
  189. [01:54:25] <TheAlly> beautiful isn't it
  190. [01:54:28] <Gargus> Why were we sad when she left?
  191. [01:54:30] * Gargus sighs
  192. [01:54:30] * Moley (Moley@synIRC-DD29B1D1.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined
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