Company: tom95: why would that be a good idea?
tom95: Company: because the elementary projects needs it
tom95: that's pretty much it
Company: you shouldn't argue it with me then
tom95: Company: can you redirect me? :-)
Company: i'd tell you that GTK has one way to do it and that way gets influenced by the GNOME devs, so elementary had better put close buttons to the right
Company: or as i said in my guadec talk: if in doubt, we define the platform, we don't follow another one
Company: but i'm a hardliner as I'm the one who works to keep the GTK API and featureset as small as possible
tom95: Company: so if I'd come with a patch that adds a gsettings key to swap the button position it'd be most probably be rejected?
Company: I would reject it
tom95: Company: how about an implementation like this? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementary-pantheon/granite/granite/view/head:/lib/Widgets/Utils.vala#L175
Company: there might be other more amenable developers who'd merge it, no idea
tom95: Company: which basically tries to grab the info from the existing wm keys with a fallback to the default value, so it wouldn't clutter up your API
deadalnix: Can an app interract with half maximised state in gnome shell ?
Company: i don't think there's a good reason to support a desktop with close buttons on the left
deadalnix: (like when doing super + left/right)
Company: every desktop i know has it on the right
deadalnix: Company, ubuntu and OSX has it on the left
deadalnix: and discrepancies between system are anoying
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deadalnix: I remapped the whole keyboard on my mac to match my linux computer
Company: really?
Company: cute
Company: I don't like global settings that change the UI
Company: because nobody ever tests the other case, let alone makes sure it looks sane
Company: try looking at how apps look with headerbars when the desktop doesn't handle menus
tom95: Company: I neither know you or the gtk team structure well, so before I sit down and start writing things, can you estimate the chance of the code going in after you rejected it anyway?
Company: i'd say you try and convince mclasen and if he says no, it won't go in
tom95: Company: alright, thanks for the answers
deadalnix: back to my question : what is the state windows are in when semi maximised in gnome3 ?
Company: you could try to make a stronger case by convincing the OS X people - las and mitch and I forget the 3rd person - to make a stronger case