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- [2:59:16 AM] Devin: I need to speak to you.
- [2:59:37 AM] Ancyker: ?
- [2:59:41 AM] Devin: So supposedly the leader of a guild here who abused a lot of bugs and cheats has invited Lost Moon to Extalia.
- [2:59:57 AM] Devin: I'm telling you this because I don't want you to go after Warrage
- [3:00:22 AM] Devin: But the leader of this guild here is inviting pretty much all of Tactics to Extalia.
- [3:00:27 AM] Devin: What would you like me to do to him?
- [3:00:55 AM] Devin: I don't know if anyone told you but I'm starting to code on Extalia now.
- [3:01:07 AM] Devin: Well he's teaching me the little that he knows while I'm taking a couple classes.
- [3:01:22 AM] Devin: I want to know whether or not you want me to do anything about it.
- [3:05:24 AM] Devin: The server is losing money but idc I know you told Warrage if he invites people over you were going to destroy Extalia. I want to prevent all of that by letting you know what I've heard.
- [3:07:11 AM] Ancyker: Generally in those types of situations the person gets banned from both servers
- [3:07:34 AM] Devin: So I should ban the person inviting others from another server?
- [4:01:27 AM] Ancyker: Yes
- [4:02:04 AM] Devin: Alright I'll give him a warning. If he continues to carry it out, i'll permaban him from the server.
- [4:09:46 AM] Ancyker: K
- [7:57:25 AM] Devin: How hard is it to wipe an entire servers items?
- [7:57:45 AM] Devin: I know people will leave but how hard is it to do that?
- [8:13:42 AM] Ancyker: Not at all
- [8:16:01 AM] Devin: Btw whats the reason why you used hercules instead of rathena? Is it because rathena has way too many bugs and shit?
- [8:20:51 AM] Ancyker: hercules actually stays up to date with kRO
- [8:21:00 AM] Ancyker: rAthena will add anything
- [8:21:05 AM] Ancyker: even if it's not confirmed
- [8:21:11 AM] Ancyker: like rAthena has rebellion
- [8:21:17 AM] Ancyker: but it's not correct
- [8:21:24 AM] Ancyker: so when the real skill formulas come out it'll change
- [8:21:30 AM] Ancyker: and everyone playing it will get pissed
- [8:22:27 AM] Ancyker: Hercules also did a lot of core changes to make it faster than rAthena
- [8:22:29 AM] Devin: I see. I had a bad feeling about rathena
- [8:22:38 AM] Ancyker: that's why lag went down when we switched to SE
- [8:22:48 AM] Ancyker: rAthena never made those changes
- [8:22:50 AM] Ancyker: sooo
- [8:22:53 AM] Ancyker: it'll be like pre-SE
- [8:23:04 AM] Ancyker: I guess you didn't really play Loki prior to the switch though
- [8:23:12 AM] Devin: I didnt so i didnt notice it
- [8:23:25 AM] Ancyker: it was pretty noticable
- [8:23:27 AM] Ancyker: especially in woe
- [8:24:13 AM] Devin: My god...okay so the owner of extalia made the woe times like really awkward. Like friday 1800 saturday 2200 sunday 0600...
- [8:24:21 AM] Devin: Is there a reason why people do it that way?
- [8:24:31 AM] Ancyker: they think they'll cover more time zones that way
- [8:24:48 AM] Ancyker: if all the castles are open though that's really dumb
- [8:25:14 AM] Devin: There are only 3 castles open currently
- [8:25:18 AM] Ancyker: well
- [8:25:25 AM] Ancyker: if the same castles are open at each time
- [8:25:28 AM] Ancyker: I should say
- [8:26:09 AM] Devin: I just want to wipe the fuck out of the items
- [8:26:18 AM] Devin: Mostly the mvp cards lol...
- [8:26:24 AM] Ancyker: DELETE FROM `inventory`;
- [8:26:27 AM] Ancyker: done.
- [8:26:46 AM] Devin: I never had to deal with it on Thor. .3% mvp cards.
- [8:27:05 AM] Ancyker: yeah...
- [8:27:11 AM] Ancyker: MVP cards ruin servers
- [8:27:35 AM] Ancyker: I took 2 out when I banned warrage :)
- [8:27:40 AM] Devin: Lmao xD
- [8:27:44 AM] Devin: Ezzzz
- [8:28:05 AM] Ancyker: but yes
- [8:28:14 AM] Ancyker: in SQL just run: DELETE FROM `inventory`;
- [8:28:28 AM] Devin: Storage as well?
- [8:28:34 AM] Ancyker: if you don't care to know about how many items you deleted, TRUNCATE TABLE `inventory`; is faster
- [8:28:35 AM] Ancyker: yep
- [8:28:46 AM] Devin: Alright
- [8:29:20 AM] Devin: Well ill decide later but it does need a clean sweep
- [8:29:41 AM] Devin: If only people knew how many MVP cards are in that server in the 2-3 months time it has been active
- [8:29:48 AM] Ancyker: inventory, storage, cart_inventory, guild_storage
- [8:30:06 AM] Devin: I know people will leave lol
- [8:30:14 AM] Ancyker: people will always leave
- [8:30:21 AM] Ancyker: some will leave if you don't do it
- [8:30:35 AM] Devin: A decent amount including GMs have left already
- [8:30:44 AM] Ancyker: the important thing is consider the future, if people join now and figure out the state of things, will they stay
- [8:30:54 AM] Ancyker: if the answer is no, then change that
- [8:31:02 AM] Devin: Alright
- [8:31:16 AM] Ancyker: Loki is having that issue now actually
- [8:31:18 AM] Ancyker: about to give up on it
- [8:31:26 AM] Ancyker: new people aren't staying and we aren't quite sure why
- [8:31:30 AM] Ancyker: (I'm assuming it's all the MVP cards)
- [8:31:46 AM] Devin: Oh i have a question to you about GMs. Lets say a GM was botting before he got GM and you found out after youve already hired him, would you just demote and ban him or give him another chance?
- [8:32:18 AM] Ancyker: if he was permabanned for botting, I'd fire him
- [8:32:41 AM] Devin: Well he didnt fire him or ban him
- [8:33:01 AM] Ancyker: ah so found out after hiring that he was a botter
- [8:33:07 AM] Devin: Yeah
- [8:33:09 AM] Ancyker: and he was not banned for it prior
- [8:33:13 AM] Ancyker: depends on how I found out
- [8:33:14 AM] Ancyker: did he tell me?
- [8:33:14 AM] Devin: He wasnt
- [8:33:39 AM] Devin: Nope. Through screenshots post on facebook sending other peoples a script telling them to do it.
- [8:33:46 AM] Ancyker: fired then
- [8:33:47 AM] Devin: But someone else posted it
- [8:33:56 AM] Devin: Thought so
- [8:33:59 AM] Ancyker: and probably banned too
- [8:34:03 AM] Ancyker: maybe not perma
- [8:34:06 AM] Ancyker: but some sorta ban
- [8:34:09 AM] Ancyker: (probably perma)
- [8:34:16 AM] Devin: His guild leader knew as well
- [8:34:23 AM] Ancyker: from what I've heard of that server
- [8:34:28 AM] Ancyker: it's not gonna be around in a year
- [8:34:37 AM] Ancyker: keep in mind most servers never even see a year
- [8:34:41 AM] Ancyker: I know RRO was your first
- [8:34:50 AM] Ancyker: but there are literally thousands of servers
- [8:34:59 AM] Ancyker: most only stay up a few months
- [8:35:04 AM] Ancyker: it's a cash grab usually
- [8:35:05 AM] Devin: I really just want experience mostly.
- [8:35:08 AM] Ancyker: they open to make quick cash
- [8:35:12 AM] Ancyker: then close as soon as it gets too hard
- [8:35:33 AM] Ancyker: the problem there is say we get a GM app
- [8:35:41 AM] Devin: Is that why he put the paypal and everything else in my name now? And got me in contact with the hoster? Lol
- [8:35:41 AM] Ancyker: and they list like 5 small servers that no longer exist
- [8:35:47 AM] Ancyker: that actually looks worse than zero experience
- [8:35:48 AM] Devin: Think he will disappear?lmao
- [8:35:59 AM] Ancyker: yes
- [8:36:02 AM] Ancyker: I had that happen to me
- [8:36:04 AM] Ancyker: BakaRO
- [8:36:10 AM] Ancyker: dude name chong asked me to help
- [8:36:12 AM] Ancyker: so I was like sure
- [8:36:19 AM] Ancyker: had like 80-100 people on at the time
- [8:36:23 AM] Ancyker: well he went on "vacation"
- [8:36:27 AM] Ancyker: for 7 months
- [8:36:33 AM] Devin: Hes going on vacation for 3 lol
- [8:36:34 AM] Ancyker: hence the quotes
- [8:36:37 AM] Devin: Yeah
- [8:36:38 AM] Ancyker: yes
- [8:36:43 AM] Ancyker: he was supposed to go for about a month
- [8:36:48 AM] Ancyker: and was gone 7
- [8:36:50 AM] Ancyker: basically he said fuck it
- [8:36:55 AM] Ancyker: well I guess he found out it did better
- [8:36:58 AM] Ancyker: came back and demanded admin
- [8:37:03 AM] Ancyker: now the server had 700+ online
- [8:37:12 AM] Ancyker: at first I was like sure
- [8:37:15 AM] Ancyker: 3 days later
- [8:37:18 AM] Ancyker: added a bunch of OP donates
- [8:37:22 AM] Ancyker: while I was asleep
- [8:37:27 AM] Ancyker: and changed the paypal to his
- [8:37:31 AM] Ancyker: got all the money
- [8:37:32 AM] Ancyker: and left
- [8:37:41 AM] Devin: Thats so fucked up
- [8:37:48 AM] Ancyker: don't work for unproven servers
- [8:37:54 AM] Ancyker: it's bad
- [8:37:54 AM] Ancyker: lol
- [8:38:01 AM] Ancyker: I mean I work for RRO
- [8:38:09 AM] Ancyker: and I'll throw down a script for someone every now and then
- [8:38:17 AM] Ancyker: but mostly I stay the fuck away
- [8:38:47 AM] Ancyker: RRO has been around over a decade
- [8:38:48 AM] Devin: So if i want to learn how to script properly, just do it on an offline srver then?
- [8:39:00 AM] Ancyker: what you can do to gain noteriety
- [8:39:04 AM] Ancyker: is make PUBLIC scripts
- [8:39:07 AM] Ancyker: and just give them away
- [8:39:10 AM] Ancyker: make basic scripts
- [8:39:14 AM] Ancyker: but put your own twist on them
- [8:39:30 AM] Ancyker: RRO uses one of my public scripts
- [8:39:36 AM] Ancyker: the warpra
- [8:39:47 AM] Ancyker: back when I started 99% of warpras warped you only to the first dungeon level
- [8:39:58 AM] Ancyker: I made one that let you pick the level
- [8:40:24 AM] Ancyker: just pick something and make it and then give it away for free on the forums
- [8:40:54 AM] Devin: Alright ill try that. Ill see what happens this month
- [8:41:05 AM] Devin: He leaves to go on vacation next month
- [8:41:07 AM] Ancyker: you can go through the kRO cash shop items
- [8:41:11 AM] Ancyker: the otherwise unobtainable ones
- [8:41:15 AM] Ancyker: and write your own quest ideas for them
- [8:41:18 AM] Ancyker: and release those
- [8:41:31 AM] Ancyker: the hero backpack is a good example
- [8:42:00 AM] Devin: He put those in the cash shop for $5 each already
- [8:42:10 AM] Ancyker: yeah I meant for public release
- [8:42:10 AM] Ancyker: :P
- [8:42:15 AM] Devin: Oh gotchu
- [8:42:24 AM] Devin: That sounds like it could be fun tbh
- [8:42:25 AM] Ancyker: working on a server won't get yout noteriety unless it's a big server
- [8:43:46 AM] Devin: How much does it cost for them to host for you? Right now he told me it cost us $200 and we only made 150 this month
- [8:44:34 AM] Devin: His cash shop is shit and he made it possible for people to afk to get these things called poring coins which can buy bloody branches and a bunch of other shit including exchanging for cash shop points.
- [8:45:10 AM] Ancyker: lol
- [8:45:18 AM] Ancyker: so he took all the bad ideas from our suggestion forums
- [8:45:19 AM] Ancyker: XD
- [8:45:31 AM] Ancyker: yeah someone made the suggestion that people can get things for every hour they are in game
- [8:45:40 AM] Ancyker: except that's dumb
- [8:45:52 AM] Ancyker: $200 is about right for a dedicated server
- [8:45:58 AM] Ancyker: he uses a VPS though
- [8:46:14 AM] Ancyker: (I checked it out as soon as we got spammed by warrages fanboys)
- [8:46:30 AM] Ancyker: already found ways to take it down quite easily :)
- [8:47:13 AM] Devin: Hes not very smart. No backup lol.
- [8:47:33 AM] Devin: Im trying to stress to him how important it is to have a backup..
- [8:47:35 AM] Ancyker: I tried to hide it from bas but someone in uh
- [8:47:38 AM] Ancyker: ZG I think it was
- [8:47:40 AM] Ancyker: told him
- [8:47:57 AM] Ancyker: so I told him I already talked to some people
- [8:48:04 AM] Ancyker: we always try to take the diplomatic approach first
- [8:48:23 AM] Ancyker: it's been a while since someone refused to stop someone spamming us
- [8:48:27 AM] Ancyker: the last time was years ago
- [8:48:32 AM] Ancyker: that server didn't last the day
- [8:48:34 AM] Ancyker: XD
- [8:48:47 AM] Devin: Do you have the ip of the person doing it?
- [8:48:52 AM] Ancyker: iirc that owner ended up with a $5000 bill
- [8:48:57 AM] Ancyker: from the data center
- [8:49:04 AM] Ancyker: because they went WAAAY over the bandwidth cap
- [8:49:05 AM] Ancyker: lol
- [8:49:31 AM] Devin: Well shit lmao sounds horrible
- [8:49:37 AM] Ancyker: yeeaaahhh
- [8:49:45 AM] Ancyker: don't mess with bas
- [8:49:56 AM] Ancyker: he's part of some organized crime shit in europe
- [8:49:59 AM] Ancyker: dude has connections
- [8:50:18 AM] Ancyker: you ever seen his pic?
- [8:50:21 AM] Ancyker: he's like super buff
- [8:50:24 AM] Devin: I havent lmao
- [8:50:35 AM] Devin: What got him into RO then?
- [8:50:42 AM] Ancyker: well RO actually got him into that
- [8:50:51 AM] Ancyker: he started looking for ways to use his money to make more money
- [8:50:59 AM] Ancyker: and got into growing weed
- [8:51:02 AM] Ancyker: tons and tons of weed
- [8:51:10 AM | Edited 8:51:13 AM] Ancyker: so he's a supplier
- [8:52:56 AM] Devin: Lmao holy shit. I didnt hear much about him
- [8:53:08 AM] Ancyker: it's not very well known info
- [8:53:27 AM] Ancyker: most people just know he's dutch and has a BMW
- [8:53:28 AM] Ancyker: lol
- [8:53:42 AM] Ancyker: (he actually has several)
- [8:53:44 AM] Devin: Well this would be great money
- [8:54:16 AM] Devin: If the owner isnt a push over atleast
- [8:54:33 AM] Devin: Ill just do what i have to do
- [8:55:11 AM] Devin: When he disappears on vacation ill make a backup and then wipe
- [8:55:35 AM] Devin: Actually
- [8:55:47 AM] Devin: I want to fix all the bugs first and shit then ill wipe
- [8:56:06 AM] Devin: Ill say its currently in beta and say items may be wiped at the end. And that its unclear
- [8:56:21 AM] Ancyker: the beta tag is awesome XD
- [8:56:49 AM] Devin: Yea xD i figured it would work well
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