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  1. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  2. Alright, I've been putting this off for literal hours, but I'll go ahead and say it.
  3.  
  4. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  5. I don't know whose sock account keeps contacting me about Hibari and Vriska's relationship, but seriously, stop. I DON'T believe it's anyone on my timeline either, but skfdslj I just need to get this out.
  6.  
  7. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  8. I've been sitting on this weirded out feeling all day long because it feels like our threads are being stalked [and not in that fun, shippy way], but in a way that's making me anxious to play him at all.
  9.  
  10. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  11. All I'm hearing is that there's not enough conflict between them?
  12.  
  13. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  14. Anon's linking to threads that I do not recalling ever sharing on my timeline, including those in our inboxes, and seem to have been following every last one of them.
  15.  
  16. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  17. I'm guessing it's not enough that he's already tried to kill her [and a second time because she trapped him in the air], called him a racist, and cursed him at least twice?
  18.  
  19. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  20. I never once thought this would be such a problem.
  21.  
  22. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  23. Questioning his response to it, asking me why he's kissed her as many times as he has. The only concern seems to be that he's not reacting to her in the way he's "expected" to react.
  24.  
  25. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  26. And implying that I could lose his entire voice/personality over something this minor? It's insulting to me.
  27.  
  28. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  29. I don't mind someone critiquing Hibari, but this is actually irritating me now, which is an amazing accomplishment considering that I have exactly two emotions.
  30.  
  31. spootcadoot21 hours ago
  32. .... is someone seriously doing that?
  33.  
  34. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  35. YES.
  36.  
  37. spootcadoot21 hours ago
  38. Who the hell would even?????
  39.  
  40. spootcadoot21 hours ago
  41. What the fuck
  42.  
  43. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  44. I don't know, but it's been making me nuts all day long.
  45.  
  46. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  47. Seriously, I am not accepting any more critique on a cute little SHIP that has nothing to do with anyone save Vriska and Hibari. I'm done with it, I was done with it yesterday
  48.  
  49. celine dion21 hours ago
  50. sounds like baby's first grudgewanker (assuming this is the first instance you've dealt with it...)
  51.  
  52. spootcadoot21 hours ago
  53. Dude I am so sorry I don't know what the hell is wrong with people
  54.  
  55. kiLL ?21 hours ago
  56. whoa thats so obsessive... (unsure)
  57.  
  58. celine dion21 hours ago
  59. document/screencap it, tell them you appreciate the feedback but don't wish to discuss the issue anymore and do not wish to be contacted again over it
  60.  
  61. celine dion21 hours ago
  62. take documentation to mods if it happens again
  63.  
  64. ℓᴀᴘɪɴ21 hours ago
  65. woooow. do you tag all your posts/threads with your character tags? they might have alerts set up when you use those.
  66.  
  67. Kurosaki Shinji21 hours ago
  68. that's p creepy ngl
  69.  
  70. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  71. whambamSLAM: Yeah, I've never dealt with anything like this before, and I don't know why it's bothering me so much.
  72.  
  73. kiLL ?21 hours ago
  74. yo people get crazy over the littlest things but SHIPS tend to be the biggest magnet for it :/ sorry youre being hassled like this...
  75.  
  76. ℓᴀᴘɪɴ21 hours ago
  77. but this is extreme, and i would be upset too if i was getting harassed
  78.  
  79. spootcadoot21 hours ago
  80. In Cdc you have to tag
  81.  
  82. celine dion21 hours ago
  83. also consider turning on IP logging temporarily
  84.  
  85. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  86. Yeah, I definitely tag everything.
  87.  
  88. celine dion21 hours ago
  89. I am sure nobody would object to that, considering this behavior.
  90.  
  91. spootcadoot21 hours ago
  92. But also inbox stalking??
  93.  
  94. ℓᴀᴘɪɴ21 hours ago
  95. yeah but personally i only tag my stuff right before AC's up, haha
  96.  
  97. ℓᴀᴘɪɴ21 hours ago
  98. mostly because i'm lazy but that might be how they're keeping track
  99.  
  100. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  101. I tag to keep track, but inboxes don't get tagged, and I typically don't share those posts.
  102.  
  103. kiLL ?21 hours ago
  104. not sure what the mods can do about it if its a sock account but yeah it cant hurt to document
  105.  
  106. Kurosaki Shinji21 hours ago
  107. it always amazes me how much time people like this have on their hands
  108.  
  109. celine dion21 hours ago
  110. it just sounds like someone who's familiar with the canon(s) and hyperobsessive to be honest
  111.  
  112. Kurosaki Shinji21 hours ago
  113. like............don't you have something better to do
  114.  
  115. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  116. It's only because of the HMD post.
  117.  
  118. Hibarin!21 hours ago
  119. Otherwise, I wouldn't have linked Hibari's. But since it's mandatory, we don't get an option.
  120.  
  121. celine dion21 hours ago
  122. ...oh was this on the game HMD? not sure about IP logging then
  123.  
  124. celine dion21 hours ago
  125. hm
  126.  
  127. kiLL ?21 hours ago
  128. is it just happening to you or em too? i know em shares links sometimes and her plurk is public so...
  129.  
  130. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  131. can't be on the game hmd game hmd is locked
  132.  
  133. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  134. No, it's his personal one.
  135.  
  136. kiLL ?20 hours ago
  137. that could be how the anon is getting them 8|a
  138.  
  139. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  140. But it came the night of HMD.
  141.  
  142. celine dion20 hours ago
  143. then if it's personal yeah. turn IP logging on and then you CAN do something if they bother you again
  144.  
  145. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  146. I'm trying not to even make a big deal out of it, but I'm just really irritated and anxious.
  147.  
  148. celine dion20 hours ago
  149. well... it's irritating and the person clearly needs to find something better to do so
  150.  
  151. kiLL ?20 hours ago
  152. its over something silly, but if youre getting harassed you have every reason to be upset
  153.  
  154. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  155. It's only the second time, but I don't want this to continue.
  156.  
  157. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  158. I didn't like it the first time.
  159.  
  160. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  161. Sometimes, just shutting it down for a while can be the best move. Disengage, don't make a fuss, and let it cool down.
  162.  
  163. celine dion20 hours ago
  164. it happens to everyone at some point or another
  165.  
  166. celine dion20 hours ago
  167. unfortunately
  168.  
  169. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  170. Are we allowed to shut them down?
  171.  
  172. celine dion20 hours ago
  173. why wouldn't you be? it's your HMD and they're harassing you now
  174.  
  175. celine dion20 hours ago
  176. HMDs are for constructive crit not obsessive nitpicking bordering on being creepy
  177.  
  178. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  179. Yeah. I'm just disappointed because I do like constructive things, but this is over shipping alone.
  180.  
  181. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  182. personal hmds aren't mandatory for the game iirc
  183.  
  184. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  185. honestly if no one in game has the balls to come to your face on the game hmd and they're being this obsessive/rude ignore it
  186.  
  187. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  188. You're still posting to the game hmd. I'd have to review the rules to be certain there isn't something in there, admittedly, but...
  189.  
  190. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  191. If they really have very serious concerns, they can keep their anon status and talk to a mod. But... Inconsequential shipping problems aren't serious by definition.
  192.  
  193. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  194. also hey guess what
  195.  
  196. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  197. ?
  198.  
  199. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  200. character development
  201.  
  202. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  203. it's
  204.  
  205. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  206. a thing
  207.  
  208. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  209. shocking right
  210.  
  211. celine dion20 hours ago
  212. not in the game anymore but I'm pretty sure your mods have better things to do than deal with weh weh ship complaints
  213.  
  214. celine dion20 hours ago
  215. just a ballpark guess
  216.  
  217. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  218. Yeah, I figured as much. I've just never had anyone say a word to me ever in the 4 years I've played Hibari, so this feels extreme to me.
  219.  
  220. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  221. Not in any game.
  222.  
  223. celine dion20 hours ago
  224. it's less extreme and more... "why do you even care this much and why are you so invested"
  225.  
  226. celine dion20 hours ago
  227. re: whoever this individual is
  228.  
  229. ℓᴀᴘɪɴ20 hours ago
  230. CDC has a lot of attention on it as one of the current big games
  231.  
  232. ℓᴀᴘɪɴ20 hours ago
  233. so that may be what put you on their radar and now they're like a dog with a bone and need to chill
  234.  
  235. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  236. i've had something similar happen to me before, but not to that extent, so i feel the pain of the grudgewank anon
  237.  
  238. celine dion20 hours ago
  239. alternate theory is that someone wants your character spot and really wants you to drop
  240.  
  241. celine dion20 hours ago
  242. lol
  243.  
  244. celine dion20 hours ago
  245. which is uh sad but it happens
  246.  
  247. Kurosaki Shinji20 hours ago
  248. yeah
  249.  
  250. honest heart.20 hours ago
  251. ...well what the actual levitating shitsticks. Someone's got a little much time on their hands.
  252.  
  253. honest heart.20 hours ago
  254. I'm really sorry you're having to deal with this, but basically it's all been covered here already.
  255.  
  256. honest heart.20 hours ago
  257. what bullshit though.
  258.  
  259. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  260. I considered it for like 2 seconds, because I really don't deal well with feeling anxious over stuff, but I've put so much into this game.
  261.  
  262. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  263. accipitridae: It's alright, I just need to be open about it because otherwise, it will bother me all night.
  264.  
  265. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  266. Eh, let's be realistic. It's more than likely just someone being massively socially awkward and not knowing to move on. Not rare in our circles.
  267.  
  268. celine dion20 hours ago
  269. ships are serious fucking business
  270.  
  271. celine dion20 hours ago
  272. I like how this tenant hasn't even changed since journal RP started
  273.  
  274. celine dion20 hours ago
  275. (LOL)
  276.  
  277. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  278. I think it's more Hibari's reaction to the ship? But I swear I cannot care this much about something we entered into to be cute.
  279.  
  280. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  281. But I appreciate all of the input here, and may very well remove the personal HMD for a bit.
  282.  
  283. levi20 hours ago
  284. um
  285.  
  286. levi20 hours ago
  287. i don't mean to be a dick and i have no complaint myself, but if this is just the two comments on your hmd that were given around the time of hmd, i don't consider this weird or creepy.
  288.  
  289. levi20 hours ago
  290. it's an attempt to give you crit. the fact that they've stalked your threads is sort of necessary to make proper crit -- not giving specific examples wouldn't be helpful and they have to read your threads to
  291.  
  292. levi20 hours ago
  293. give them...
  294.  
  295. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  296. I understand, but I don't want crit on an ingame ship.
  297.  
  298. levi20 hours ago
  299. that's cool. i'd just ignore it then.
  300.  
  301. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  302. Yeah, no worries. I definitely plan to.
  303.  
  304. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  305. Glancing at it, the hyperbole is a little silly but it seems like the writer isn't malicious or grudgy.
  306.  
  307. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  308. I'd say being up front with them if they continue the conversation would probably get the results you want.
  309.  
  310. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  311. My earlier suggestion of shutting things down for a bit really doesn't fit the tone of things.
  312.  
  313. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  314. I will do that then.
  315.  
  316. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  317. It's just not something I feel should be an issue, and honestly, I don't think it's fair that others can ship without question while Hibari gets an examination.
  318.  
  319. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  320. What's more, I don't think this is what HMD is for?
  321.  
  322. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  323. It's private and doesn't affect the plot or his performance, or any interaction he has with other characters. It affects Vriska, the end.
  324.  
  325. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  326. Well, no, it's actually quite fair to take note of character behavior, but expecting strict unending canon compliance is unrealistic.
  327.  
  328. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  329. It still is part of the game, after all.
  330.  
  331. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  332. You can always note that you're not interested in certain kinds of crit. I think that's be fair, too.
  333.  
  334. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  335. I'll make a note of that as well when I update. I guess I really didn't intend for it to be examined in such a serious way that implies that it's going to ruin my character somehow.
  336.  
  337. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  338. I have seen that semi dramatic style of crit offered to other people before. It always strikes me as a result of the crit giver getting so wound up about having to give said crit that they over-compensate.
  339.  
  340. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  341. I'd try not to take it personally if I were in your place.
  342.  
  343. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  344. I'll try. I don't see where it was necessary at all, and going through the trouble of making a sock account for it, that just bothers me in general. But I really appreciate your words.
  345.  
  346. PENELOPE III20 hours ago
  347. It's one of the weaknesses of the hmd system versus conversational discussion.
  348.  
  349. BANANARINA20 hours ago
  350. WELP.
  351.  
  352. BANANARINA20 hours ago
  353. shows up 15 min late with Starbucks WHATD I MISS
  354.  
  355. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  356. skywards: Same thing as last night, I'm afraid.
  357.  
  358. BANANARINA20 hours ago
  359. YEAH I GATHERED THAT WAS SARCASTIC i'll kill everyone
  360.  
  361. BANANARINA20 hours ago
  362. FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH BUDDY I HAVEN'T HEARD BOO so i'm sort of inclined to think someone just has a problem with you personally rather than this being a Real Issue
  363.  
  364. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  365. Augh, I'm sorry. I know it's all on Hibari's end, but there's really nothing to do about this.
  366.  
  367. BANANARINA20 hours ago
  368. like, maybe? idk, i feel like if someone genuinely had a problem with the ship, they'd come talk to me too, because a ship takes, you know, two people?
  369.  
  370. BANANARINA20 hours ago
  371. i feel like this is more just about giving you a hard time than anything.
  372.  
  373. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  374. I just don't know what they want really? I don't feel this is something to be fixed, and you don't seem to mind it either?
  375.  
  376. BANANARINA20 hours ago
  377. haha they want you to say OH YOU'RE RIGHT SORRY LET ME BREAK THIS UP RIGHT NOW probably.
  378.  
  379. BANANARINA20 hours ago
  380. anyone who's that dogged just wants the other party to admit defeat.
  381.  
  382. Hibarin!20 hours ago
  383. I know it hasn't been played out perfectly, but this is my first ship in a game, so I mean, I don't know. It doesn't feel forced or uncomfortable to me.
  384.  
  385. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  386. I'LL SERIOUSLY KILL THE WORLD i'm really mad someone has made you anxious over this WHEN IT IS IN FACT YOUR FIRST SHIP IN A GAME
  387.  
  388. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  389. i've been through this rigamarole a couple of times so i know my footing, but when you're knew at it, and esp with a character like hibari, it's trial and error
  390.  
  391. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  392. so that someone is hounding you about it instead of just trying to be constructive SUCKS.
  393.  
  394. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  395. .... *new
  396.  
  397. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  398. I really appreciate you saying so. Like, I want to know if something's wrong with my writing, or my wording, or my portrayal, but not my ship?
  399.  
  400. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  401. (part of me just wonders if whoever it is ships hibari with someone else in canon or something and just DOESN'T LIKE SEEING HIM SHIPPED WITH ANYONE ELSE)
  402.  
  403. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  404. I have no honest idea, but, If you don't have any plans to split them up, I'm not making any adjustments either, unless it happens naturally.
  405.  
  406. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  407. there are a lot of possibilities here but i just keep wondering why i haven't heard jack shit... either they have no problem with vriska's end of it, or they just have a problem with YOU
  408.  
  409. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  410. which automatically you can't do anything about.
  411.  
  412. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  413. HAHA JESUS NO.
  414.  
  415. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  416. vriska's a fragile psycho, breaking up something like that so suddenly would go bad places.
  417.  
  418. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  419. if i even wanted to, which i do not.
  420.  
  421. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  422. we're the same on that one! what happens happens, what naturally develops will naturally develop. i've got no inclination to push it one way or another.
  423.  
  424. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  425. Same here. I want it to stay as natural as it's always been.
  426.  
  427. bk 20119 hours ago
  428. sometimes, no matter how you develop it or what you do, certain pairings won't "click" with people. if you can go over your own threads and, with a critical eye, still see nothing really off or wrong
  429.  
  430. bk 20119 hours ago
  431. then chances are nothing's going to really convince the person
  432.  
  433. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  434. ^^^ agreed with that completely
  435.  
  436. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  437. i also do agree with Poppy that it is fair to examine a ship for character behavior! and i haven't actually read the crit so i don't want to speak to something I don't know
  438.  
  439. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  440. rn i'm just calling it on my gut feeling
  441.  
  442. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  443. WHICH IS MOSTLY "WOW DON'T UPSET MY FRIEND."
  444.  
  445. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  446. so i have a bias.
  447.  
  448. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  449.  
  450.  
  451. bk 20119 hours ago
  452. yeah, i see the comment now and see their criticism isn't on the pairing, but rather their idea of the pacing, but do you feel their crit is more based on their like...how do i say uhh
  453.  
  454. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  455. It's still up in his HMD, and I tried to explain things, and honestly got flustered because I didn't expect to be defending this of all things...
  456.  
  457. bk 20119 hours ago
  458. fears about how you might portray it rather than how you actually are portraying it?
  459.  
  460. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  461. I mean, if it's a might, that's not very helpful?
  462.  
  463. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  464. I'm not exactly planning this out.
  465.  
  466. bk 20119 hours ago
  467. it seems like they're afraid you're going to make hibari and vriska in this conventional, totally normal bf/gf ship, but i don't know if that's what's actually happening at all.
  468.  
  469. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  470. it's not helpful, but i can see where that impulse would come from..... jeez ok i need to go read this brb.
  471.  
  472. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  473. They're the furthest thing from normal, so I can't see that happening either way.
  474.  
  475. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  476. i don't think it's that nuts to start a relationship or have one move into different territory after six...months
  477.  
  478. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  479. because ICly it has been technically, six earth months
  480.  
  481. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  482. All they've done is hold hands one time, and give a few quick kisses, nothing's really happened yet.
  483.  
  484. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  485. OK IM BACK. having read it i agree that it's more about their expectations for hibari's sort of ... character arc as a whole, as portrayed in the specific instance of the ship
  486.  
  487. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  488. .......then i think that's fine?
  489.  
  490. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  491. that seems realistic to me
  492.  
  493. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  494. it's not like they're banging in rovers
  495.  
  496. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  497. lmao
  498.  
  499. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  500. i think they're employing a little hyperbole and maybe assuming too much from whatRSKJGHKSLJDHLKGSDJHLKSJFD
  501.  
  502. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  503. Omg
  504.  
  505. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  506. LAUGHS FOREVER
  507.  
  508. PENELOPE III19 hours ago
  509. Poorly worded concern that you're veering off into ooc behavior on Hibari's part is what I got out of it, not even a condemnation of the ship as a whole.
  510.  
  511. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  512. I can't fix what hasn't even begun to happen, that's really why I'm bothered.
  513.  
  514. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  515. noh pretty much fills the rover banging quota.
  516.  
  517. bk 20119 hours ago
  518. mhm. :-( admittedly i haven't been following it so i have no idea, but they seem to content that hibari's introspection is consistent and IC, but that his actions they feel contradict it? but like
  519.  
  520. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  521. ^^^ YES. what poppy said.
  522.  
  523. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  524. Noh pls...
  525.  
  526. bk 20119 hours ago
  527. i think it makes sense that whatever confusion or apprehensions hibari says, he's not going to process it aloud
  528.  
  529. bk 20119 hours ago
  530. or have feelings-talks with vriska about them
  531.  
  532. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  533. oh god, feelings talks.......
  534.  
  535. bk 20119 hours ago
  536. he just kind of deals with that stuff on his own in the form of being a capricious punk ass usually
  537.  
  538. bk 20119 hours ago
  539. or severe denial
  540.  
  541. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  542. but yeah that makes sense to me. i can't see him being openly aggressive to her, but the other option for venting confusion is a feelings jam and AINT NO ONE GOT TIME FOR THAT.
  543.  
  544. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  545. Yeah, he's been cutting up lately, but Hibari's definitely not going to discuss something like this.
  546.  
  547. bk 20119 hours ago
  548. yeah. i could see conflict happening, definitely, due to hibari's confusion, but i think even that should be developed gradually if it even happens...it's not something you can just blast into full force
  549.  
  550. bk 20119 hours ago
  551. just because of some crit. just like the relationship took months to manifest
  552.  
  553. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  554. also it's funny, the whole "he's not even sure they're dating" thing, because vriska herself DESPITE THE WHOLE "CLAIMING" THING isn't actually sure about it either! if you asked her flat out
  555.  
  556. bk 20119 hours ago
  557. any issues would also take a while to manifest
  558.  
  559. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  560. she would say maybe or that she didn't know.
  561.  
  562. bk 20119 hours ago
  563. it doesn't have to be instantaneous
  564.  
  565. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  566. so if anything they're both being kind of obtuse and contradictory.
  567.  
  568. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  569. ladymonster: I agree, this isn't something I want to structure out either.
  570.  
  571. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  572. skywards: I think they're both just feeling it out?
  573.  
  574. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  575. AND YEAH, agreeing with that too... i'm definitely not against conflict, but it happening full force/RIGHT THE HELL NOW would be some kinda IC whiplash.
  576.  
  577. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  578. pretty much.
  579.  
  580. bk 20119 hours ago
  581. mhm. well, i think it's good you two are keeping a civil conversation. if they respond, i'd try to get some clarifications going on. it's good to be approachable for this stuff
  582.  
  583. bk 20119 hours ago
  584. but there's nothing wrong with standing by what you have written so far either, if you've examined it and can't see any real issue other than you're not playing it the way they want you to.
  585.  
  586. bk 20119 hours ago
  587. if you tackle any conflict (neither of the two are particularly good at feelings...), i do hope it's of your own accord rather than something you feel you have to do asap to make things believable
  588.  
  589. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  590. I'm not sure I really want to respond to them anymore. I can't change what I haven't done yet, and I do feel that way, that I'm not playing him the way they expected to see.
  591.  
  592. bk 20119 hours ago
  593. because then you could end up with more issues
  594.  
  595. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  596. Agreed.
  597.  
  598. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  599. also, you know, reading it... it's sort of strange/interesting to me that they talk about hibari's so-called "lack of reaction", but like.... isn't part of that due to vriska herself, and her influence?
  600.  
  601. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  602. this isn't just 100% hibari's reactions... who she is will have an impact on how he reacts, too.
  603.  
  604. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  605. and that's not really taken into account looking at it this way.
  606.  
  607. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  608. skywards: I thought so too.
  609.  
  610. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  611. you react differently to different people... that's how... people work. any relationship you look at that has to be considered.
  612.  
  613. bk 20119 hours ago
  614. vriska's really pushy and assertive and, like i said i haven't read much of their threads, but i do think that because of that she'd take the brunt of the emotional pushing idk
  615.  
  616. bk 20119 hours ago
  617. while hibari would just roll with it after she wore him down
  618.  
  619. bk 20119 hours ago
  620. as long as he likes her
  621.  
  622. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  623. PROBABLY.
  624.  
  625. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  626. Hah hah. It's true. Like, I don't know what's expected here? He was a complete mess when they first met, just really problematic.
  627.  
  628. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  629. More so than now.
  630.  
  631. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  632. and that's borne out in the fact that she's the one saying shit about it to other people, too.
  633.  
  634. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  635. er, by shit i just mean talking about it. NOT LIKE SAYING BAD THINGS.
  636.  
  637. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  638. ladymonster: no but i'm gonna agree with this assessment, it's pretty spot on.
  639.  
  640. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  641. Hibari has disclosed it to absolutely no one. Noh already knew. It might come up with Ino, but only because he wants to know what the hell to buy her in this store.
  642.  
  643. PENELOPE III19 hours ago
  644. Perhaps if you want to take something productive out of this, you can just continue to be mindful about what you're playing, and you can have interesting conversations on the topic like this one popping up.
  645.  
  646. bk 20119 hours ago
  647. yeah ^ this
  648.  
  649. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  650. Yeah. I think that should be alright.
  651.  
  652. bk 20119 hours ago
  653. if anything it's good to always examine this stuff, and have a lot of conversations between you and vriska's player!
  654.  
  655. bk 20119 hours ago
  656. well! at least they took it to your hmd. :-( that's actually more than a lot of people do. i hope you can continue to play undeterred.
  657.  
  658. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  659.  
  660.  
  661. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  662. I AM ALWAYS UP FOR CONVERSATIONS, i can talk for HOURS ON END about character motivations.
  663.  
  664. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  665. and i'm pretty flexible. if you ever wanna toss ideas at me or change things up just say the word.
  666.  
  667. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  668. skywards: No way. Like I said, it's nice that's it's just... developed. I love talking about it here, but I don't feel it's something Hibari's going to mention right now, if ever.
  669.  
  670. Starsurge ✶19 hours ago
  671. I am actually literally late bc i trip to starbucks lmao. but what I can say is this:
  672.  
  673. PENELOPE III19 hours ago
  674. Open lines of communication are the best when it comes to shipping exoskeletons
  675.  
  676. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  677. sure
  678.  
  679. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  680. If anything changes at all, I'd want to leave that up to you.
  681.  
  682. PENELOPE III19 hours ago
  683. Er
  684.  
  685. bk 20119 hours ago
  686. yeah, it seems like flexibility and communication is key with mindful playing. you guys can still have fun. the good thing is the anon wasn't saying "THIS PAIRING IS BAD/OOC"
  687.  
  688. bk 20119 hours ago
  689. exoskeletons...
  690.  
  691. PENELOPE III19 hours ago
  692. *especially
  693.  
  694. PENELOPE III19 hours ago
  695. Autocorrect got me
  696.  
  697. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  698. ... EXOSKELETONS
  699.  
  700. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  701. Hah hah
  702.  
  703. Starsurge ✶19 hours ago
  704. I've gotten crit on relationships before, (on friendships even ) so it happens and I agree that is fair game as it is happening in-game (tho if it was musebox obiv that doesnt count)
  705.  
  706. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  707.  
  708.  
  709. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  710. those aren't exoskeletons, but they're dancing, so whatever.
  711.  
  712. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  713. I just don't want anyone literally worrying, which was the word used, about Hibari's relationship. I don't intend to make him this big OOC woobie.
  714.  
  715. PENELOPE III19 hours ago
  716. Close enough for govt work, I'd say!
  717.  
  718. Starsurge ✶19 hours ago
  719. but that I dont think the tone was malicious, and basically everything ladymonster said they summed it up better than me
  720.  
  721. bk 20119 hours ago
  722. yeah, i will say even if i know crit can give you a lot of anxiety about feeling like you're being stalked, the person at least did approach you respectfully.
  723.  
  724. bk 20119 hours ago
  725. yeah!! if you know you won't make him some ooc woobie then continue to play him confidently
  726.  
  727. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  728. Definitely. I want Hibari to stay Hibari, but I'm glad that he can be something other than a mindless killer.
  729.  
  730. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  731. This is just a portion of who he is, like how he loves birds.
  732.  
  733. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  734. "something other than a mindless killer" lmao reasons they're dating in the first place
  735.  
  736. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  737. Aha hah
  738.  
  739. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  740. if hibari was one dimensional i don't think shini would be alive rn
  741.  
  742. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  743. bubblenest: You're right. He'd have beaten the daylights out of Shinji.
  744.  
  745. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  746. and wouldn't have saved his life like 5 times or more by now
  747.  
  748. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  749. and like i said last night if i was playing vriska 10% true to canon without development she'd be straight dead, probably via instructor smackdown.
  750.  
  751. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  752. having depth and growth is important, yo.
  753.  
  754. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  755. .... 10%.
  756.  
  757. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  758. 100% IS WHAT I MEANT.
  759.  
  760. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  761. bubblenest: He does that a lot in canon, rescuing people and bitching about it.
  762.  
  763. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  764. snorts
  765.  
  766. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  767. hibari, that's cute tho.
  768.  
  769. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  770. skywards: I know exactly what you mean. Hibari would be dead 100 times over. He'd have hit Armada and been slaughtered.
  771.  
  772. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  773. lmao shinji watches him fight and then wonders why...he's so nice to him
  774.  
  775. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  776. bubblenest: Hibari's really selective in who he's terrible to, it's kind of funny.
  777.  
  778. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  779. THANK GOD FOR CR THAT GOES "HOLY SHIT DON'T DO THAT."
  780.  
  781. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  782. NOH
  783.  
  784. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  785. D'artagnan.
  786.  
  787. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  788. god bless noh-varr for keeping his absolutely bonkers space siblings alive.
  789.  
  790. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  791. i hope to god people will tell juuzou no, don't do the thing...
  792.  
  793. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  794. or else he's gonna die.............
  795.  
  796. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  797. so fast
  798.  
  799. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  800. I'm afraid that won't be Hibari, Juuzou...
  801.  
  802. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  803. if anything juuzou is going to be a terrible influence
  804.  
  805. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  806. Hibari says, I will HELP you do the thing.
  807.  
  808. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  809. vriska... would say the exact same thing......
  810.  
  811. BANANARINA19 hours ago
  812. OKAY I'M BEING ABDUCTED TO A POOL I'LL COME BACK TO THIS LATER
  813.  
  814. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  815. skywards: Thanks for your input again, and I'll definitely keep talking to you about things.
  816.  
  817. Kurosaki Shinji19 hours ago
  818. welp
  819.  
  820. bk 20119 hours ago
  821. yeah, i have to go too but i'll just reiterate that it's at least good that they approached you respectfully. continue to play out your ship, continue to be mindful of thoughts/actions and characterization
  822.  
  823. bk 20119 hours ago
  824. and just try to have fun!
  825.  
  826. Hibarin!19 hours ago
  827. ladymonster: Thank you so much. I'll keep it all in mind.
  828.  
  829. BANANARINA18 hours ago
  830. coming back finally to say yeah! if you ever wanna jam about it i'm always down, i don't ever mind talking about this kind of thing.
  831.  
  832. BANANARINA18 hours ago
  833. I LOVE TALKING ABOUT CHARACTERS JESUS
  834.  
  835. Hibarin!18 hours ago
  836. Sure thing! I really love talking about these two, so yeah, anytime!
  837.  
  838. Hibarin!18 hours ago
  839. I can't believe I never knew Vriska until now.
  840.  
  841. BANANARINA18 hours ago
  842.  
  843.  
  844. BANANARINA18 hours ago
  845. she's my boo.
  846.  
  847. Hibarin!17 hours ago
  848. She's really so wonderful. Like, I really want to know all I can.
  849.  
  850. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  851. you can always feel free to ask! i'm happy to describe her history n provide relevant comic links.
  852.  
  853. Hibarin!17 hours ago
  854. What is Homestuck in general? I remember seeing the pages you linked, and they looked sort of animated, but I couldn't piece together the story.
  855.  
  856. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  857. hmmmm
  858.  
  859. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  860. i guess the easiest way to describe it is to say homestuck is a game
  861.  
  862. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  863. or rather, it's ABOUT a game
  864.  
  865. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  866. a really huge RPG, kind of, that spans at least four universes that we know of
  867.  
  868. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  869. all the players are predestined to play this game long before they know it
  870.  
  871. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  872. vriska and all of her friends are the players of one instance of the game, called a session
  873.  
  874. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  875. all the hijinks that take place in the comic are because of, for, caused by, and around that game
  876.  
  877. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  878. the comic is the story of all of these players and what happens to them during this game, and also some context of their lives before it
  879.  
  880. Hibarin!17 hours ago
  881. I take it it's something that will take me a while to catch up on?
  882.  
  883. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  884. homestuck is like..... idek how many thousands of pages HAHA
  885.  
  886. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  887. you could read hivebent without needing a LOT of context but once you got past that things would stop making sense very quickly
  888.  
  889. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  890. (hivebent is the backstory of all the trolls)
  891.  
  892. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  893. it would be hard to summarize the comic as a whole but i could do a decent job of summarizing vriska's history in particular... or you could give reading it a shot!
  894.  
  895. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  896. i warn you, the first act will go slow. then again, some people really like it...
  897.  
  898. Hibarin!17 hours ago
  899. I'll think I'll check out hivebent first. I'm just greedily gathering info atm.
  900.  
  901. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  902. ok! hivebent is the beginning of act 5, which you can find pretty easily on the MSPA site.
  903.  
  904. BANANARINA17 hours ago
  905. you'll get tossed into the game mechanics with no preamble but you shouldn't need to know too much of that to get by with the story. feel free to ask me about it though.
  906.  
  907. Hibarin!16 hours ago
  908. I will, thanks!
  909.  
  910. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  911. "Like, I want to know if something's wrong with my writing, or my wording, or my portrayal, but not my ship?" You say this and yet most of the crit does read to be in regards to
  912.  
  913. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  914. Hibari’s portrayal, as seen while acting through the ship? I don’t want you thinking I wrote the crit and I’m not trying to sound like a jerk here
  915.  
  916. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  917. but this does seem like an over reaction to levelly worded crit, especially re: linking examples, since most crit is pointless and unhelpful without something to back-up the OP’s thoughts.
  918.  
  919. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  920. You’re 100% at rights not to agree with the crit or take it to heart, but nobody’s saying that you have to. If you dislike what a crit giver is saying then either 1) don’t reply or
  921.  
  922. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  923. 2- respectfully tell them you disagree and aren’t open to further discussion on the matter. Most people will respect that. It certainly doesn’t read like it was meant as an attack
  924.  
  925. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  926. In any case I can understand being upset over being crit, especially if you saw no issues yourself before, but I don't think it's fair to say other ships in the game receive no criticism when they actually get
  927.  
  928. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  929. dragged through the mud on WG all the time, for various reasons. At least OP took it to your HMD and provided examples of why they thought something was up without dragging the issue somewhere less direct.
  930.  
  931. bk 20114 hours ago
  932. ^ i think it's definitely been covered in here that they really did approach the issue respectfully. they used an HMD for what it's supposed to be used for, basically.
  933.  
  934. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  935. I also have to say that, if this is the way you react to crit, I can't blame OP at all for wishing to use a sock to contact you. To your credit, you were level-headed and polite in your responses to the OP, but
  936.  
  937. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  938. you also have fellow RPers/gamemates on your plurk and reactions like this may disway people from coming to you with their names attached if they have critique for your playing in the future. Which I'm sure you
  939.  
  940. blue♡blooded14 hours ago
  941. don't want since you've said you're open to input in regards to other aspects of Hibari's characterisation. I'm not saying "don't use your own private space to vent", just be mindful is all.
  942.  
  943. Hibarin!8 hours ago
  944. I would actually be more open if someone had come to me in earnest instead of using anonymous method. It would feel more like a concerned friend and I wouldn't have been so anxious.
  945.  
  946. Hibarin!8 hours ago
  947. But it's fine either way since I've already taken everyone's suggestions.
  948.  
  949. noh-varr.8 hours ago
  950. Consider removing the anon option on Hibari's personal HMD, if you haven't already. Otherwise, I have no horse in this race, but we could actually address this ICly between Noh-Varr and Hibari.
  951.  
  952. noh-varr.7 hours ago
  953. Noh would probably find it uncharacteristic of Hibari, so he might ask?
  954.  
  955. Hibarin!7 hours ago
  956. ara_macao: I think it was removed before? I'm not sure, but I'll check. But yes, I think that'd be wonderful for them to talk about.
  957.  
  958. noh-varr.7 hours ago
  959. I kind of have to agree with Mallo in the sense that the crit really isn't that bad? The anon seems to have a vested interest in seeing Hibari stay as true to himself as possible, which is legit--you don't have
  960.  
  961. noh-varr.7 hours ago
  962. to agree with them or take their points wholeheartedly, but this is well-worded and not rude or stalky at all.
  963.  
  964. noh-varr.7 hours ago
  965. I'd say take a breather, let it lie a bit, and in a few weeks/months consider removing Hibari's personal HMD altogether, so people will have to use the gamewide HMD, plurk or PM to talk to you about stuff.
  966.  
  967. Hibarin!7 hours ago
  968. Yeah, I mean, everyone already eased me though this last night, but I'll probably remove it since it was the anonymous nature of it that startled me. I've never received any type of crit ever to begin with.
  969.  
  970. Hibarin!7 hours ago
  971. And this is my first ship, so I felt pretty upset.
  972.  
  973. Hibarin!7 hours ago
  974. I feel a lot better of tag partners come to me as themselves, instead of it feeling like some random person reading every single thread I make.
  975.  
  976. Hibarin!7 hours ago
  977. *if
  978.  
  979. Starsurge ✶7 hours ago
  980. I think in a game like consignment you have to realize that people beyond your tag partners (and people you have on plurk) will read your threads. It's a large + active game
  981.  
  982. Starsurge ✶7 hours ago
  983. also considering the tagging system (which you get punished for if you dont use unlike other games) its not really hard to find things
  984.  
  985. Hibarin!7 hours ago
  986. Like I said, I got startled. I never imagined someone would really be following his threads that closely? Like even in the inboxes of others. That freaked me out. I am easily freaked out.
  987.  
  988. Starsurge ✶7 hours ago
  989. I've wound up in the inboxes of people I don't have/interacted with purely because I was skimming an open log and found them interesting (which I think can be a merit, if someone is reading your things w/o cr)
  990.  
  991. Hibarin!7 hours ago
  992. It's something I will have to adjust to.
  993.  
  994. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  995. It's strange, I always figured Hibari went largely unnoticed.
  996.  
  997. Starsurge ✶6 hours ago
  998. Yup, and more so in just bc it is such a large and active game. In a game like eachdraidh I could see it being a lil more outthere. Just, if youre playing in a game other people right your stuff is all
  999.  
  1000. Starsurge ✶6 hours ago
  1001. *might read
  1002.  
  1003. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1004. I'm going to do what Ara said and just sort of let things mellow out. It's been a little surprising.
  1005.  
  1006. Starsurge ✶6 hours ago
  1007. I got crit last HMD and it surprised me too (I have been crit before though) but I let it sit and realized they had valid points
  1008.  
  1009. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1010. That's fine, but wow, I wasn't prepared for that at all.
  1011.  
  1012. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1013. Hibari won't change much, I don't want people assuming that.
  1014.  
  1015. BANANARINA6 hours ago
  1016. It's more like people will DEFINITELY read your stuff. CDC is a game where people really enjoy reading threads they're not a part of, which is honestly pretty cute.
  1017.  
  1018. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1019. skywards: I just never imagined anyone really would? I know that sounds weird, but I didn't. I only read what people share with me on Plurk, which I see now is unusual.
  1020.  
  1021. BANANARINA6 hours ago
  1022. It's not unusual! I don't stalk that much stuff personally, usually just what people link to. But it is a common thing to do around these parts.
  1023.  
  1024. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1025. I'm glad I know about that now, at least.
  1026.  
  1027. BANANARINA6 hours ago
  1028. Also I do have to agree w what's been said, my own initial reactions were based on YOUR reactions & also not reading the thing. It's really not bad crit. But I can def see why you're startled.
  1029.  
  1030. BANANARINA6 hours ago
  1031. I remember being really seriously surprised when anyone have a shit about Vriska in the beginning since I'm used to flying under the radar myself. It can be surprising to be noticed!
  1032.  
  1033. BANANARINA6 hours ago
  1034. So I don't blame you for feeling startled or out if sorts. It's a weird feeling to really register that someone's not only paying attention, but close attention! Even if it's part of CDC's culture
  1035.  
  1036. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1037. Yeah, it just took me by surprise?? My initial reaction was legitimate fear like, who is this, and why are you so deep in my threads??
  1038.  
  1039. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1040. I won't be so startled in the future.
  1041.  
  1042. BANANARINA6 hours ago
  1043. it can be weird to register that kind of thing... if you're not used to it, thinking "other people are watching this" isn't a naturally occurring thought.
  1044.  
  1045. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1046. Yeah, a lot of it was like, "how did you even find that?"
  1047.  
  1048. BANANARINA6 hours ago
  1049. Haha yep. It's like WHY DO YOU CARE???? but that's really not what it's about. If anything it's nice that someone likes Hibari so much they read a lot of his threads & care to give you crit!
  1050.  
  1051. Hibarin!6 hours ago
  1052. Yeah. I'll definitely have to work on getting used to it.
  1053.  
  1054. levi5 hours ago
  1055. tbh i want to reiterate that they may not have read your threads that deeply until they prepared to give you crit - it's considered in bad form to give people crit without giving specific examples. personally
  1056.  
  1057. levi5 hours ago
  1058. it bothers me much more to receive crit that is vague and doesn't reference anything i've done by example.
  1059.  
  1060. levi5 hours ago
  1061. so yeah i agree with creepyfries i just think it's a bit of an unfair misrepresentation to call it stalky or creepy when it's perfectly polite
  1062.  
  1063. levireply5 hours ago
  1064. also i want to point out that the reason they may have addressed only hibari and not vriska is that they might not be familiar with her canon and thus have no way to gauge what is ic for her or not.
  1065.  
  1066. Hibarin!5 hours ago
  1067. I was just saying before that it surprised me. I wasn't prepared, and I honestly figured no one payed attention to his threads, and it legitimately freaked me out.
  1068.  
  1069. Hibarin!5 hours ago
  1070. I would actually like to forget about it, since everyone already gave me wonderful suggestions and eased me through the fear of it.
  1071.  
  1072. levi5 hours ago
  1073. all right!
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