- (03:10:11) VCR_Working: https://boards.4chan.org/q/res/362481 man
- (03:10:22) VCR_Working: i wish moot really would ban this dickass
- (03:10:25) VCR_Working: ah well
- (14:43:04) +duanemoody: https://boards.4chan.org/co/res/44780873 oh geez
- (14:43:33) +duanemoody: ninty's rolling in money, why would they hand over a cash machine to disney
- (14:43:56) +duanemoody: wait, disney isn't buying nintendo
- (15:48:53) +AoC: I think I'm done
- (15:49:03) +duanemoody: done?
- (15:50:44) +AoC: burned out. looking over the archive and reports and don't feel like getting involved in any of that mess knowing very well that we're not doing any lasting difference
- (15:51:12) +AoC: maybe a couple more weeks of not caring about meta will help
- (15:51:25) +WalterWhite: Just stop taking it so personally.
- (15:51:49) +WalterWhite: It's a vicious cycle we entertain.
- (15:52:14) +WalterWhite: But we do it because there are people that care about the boards.
- (15:52:28) +WalterWhite: It's just the idiots have a louder voice because they are who we focus on.
- (15:52:56) +WalterWhite: Everyone gets burned out.
- (15:53:01) +WalterWhite: We are only so big.
- (15:53:44) +WalterWhite: It's okay to feel tired, but don't quit. But if you must, be certain. And if that's not even what you were talking about when you mention "done" then ignore what I said.
- (15:54:13) +AoC: ignore I will then
- (15:54:18) +WalterWhite: <3
- (15:55:07) +AoC: I learned from last time. Quitting is like 1 hour of satisfaction
- (15:55:23) +AoC: followed by a year of regret watching the board race to the bottom
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- (15:58:26) +RapeApe9k: AoC, you need to have a change of philosophy
- (15:58:33) +RapeApe9k: we can't 'perfect' boards
- (15:58:52) +RapeApe9k: they aren't static things that we can fix and expect to have them stay the same
- (15:59:40) +RapeApe9k: the flow of shit never ends
- (15:59:44) +RapeApe9k: never, ever
- (16:00:30) +duanemoody: hey, what if instead of taking sabbaticals we just moved to other boards for a while
- (16:00:34) +RapeApe9k: since we can't stop people from posting garbage, all we can do is mitigate the damage to the experience that non-shitposting users have
- (16:00:53) +duanemoody: i have to go so i can't ruin this discussion worse
- (16:01:32) +RapeApe9k: so long as we can maintain a site that people still want to keep coming to, we have succeeded, regardless of how much rule-breaking shit is continually posted
- (16:02:32) +RapeApe9k: besides, the relative lawlessness and chaos of 4chan is part of what makes 4chan special
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- (16:05:52) +AoC: that's why I just need a few more days to rest. I know we can't overturn things and the best we can hope for is keeping entropy away for a couple more years
- (16:06:43) +AoC: I'm just tired and sad, specially knowing that anything I do will never amount to nothing
- (16:09:20) BluRay: maaaaaaan
- (16:09:31) BluRay: I know that feeling
- (16:10:43) +fsdfdsf: ;_;
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- (16:11:03) +RapeApe9k: >amount to nothing
- (16:11:08) +RapeApe9k: see, there's your trouble
- (16:11:19) +RapeApe9k: you're expecting something out of a mob of anonymous people
- (16:11:34) +RapeApe9k: they are going to do whatever the fuck they want
- (16:11:40) +RapeApe9k: you have no control over that
- (16:12:03) +RapeApe9k: all you can do is keep the shit from piling up so high that the mob disperses and the board dies
- (16:12:17) +RapeApe9k: sometimes that mob will produce something awesome
- (16:12:21) +RapeApe9k: that is your reward
- (16:14:13) +RapeApe9k: the thing is, is that you can't possibly predict when the nuggets of gold will appear in the river of shit
- (16:15:51) +RapeApe9k: sometimes it takes you completely by surprise. during the whole 'le lenny face' debacle, for instance, hundreds of people got banned for shitposting and we were all basically running wild trying to stop it
- (16:16:23) +RapeApe9k: but, i mean, such memetic inane crap *is what 4chan does*
- (16:16:44) +RapeApe9k: if this place was a factory, that's what we'd be producing
- (16:17:29) +RapeApe9k: stupid but absurdly catchy crap that runs the gamut of the moronic and repetitive all the way around to funny again
- (16:18:50) BluRay: lo
- (16:18:52) BluRay: l
- (16:19:11) +RapeApe9k: it's true, though
- (16:19:19) BluRay: it is
- (16:19:51) +RapeApe9k: the magic recipe that makes 4chan awesome includes a certain amount of repetitive annoying crap
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- (16:24:47) +AoC: Don't worry so much, just having a bad day. I'll probably be back up and joking around in no time
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- (16:25:48) +fsdfdsf: More great RapeApe9k posts from time to time pls
- (16:25:55) +RapeApe9k: huh?
- (16:26:09) BluRay: gununu
- (16:26:12) +fsdfdsf: That whole thing was kind of a moral boost for me
- (16:26:35) +RapeApe9k: ...
- That means trouble for /v/ and /jp/ since this means one dedicated hotpocket gone. This speech however is another piece of the puzzle to RapeApe's success.
- (20:21:50) ~moot: fyi
- (20:21:59) ~moot: users will be able to see the posts they were banned for
- (20:22:05) +duanemoody: good
- (20:22:06) ~moot: for templated bans
- (20:22:09) ~moot: which means every ban requested ban
- (20:22:11) +WalterWhite: :o
- (20:22:27) +duanemoody: do they see the reason text that's in the form or just a copy of it
- (20:22:30) ~moot: so be careful else you'll get a million people screenshotting their bans adn being mad
- (20:22:35) +duanemoody: ah
- (20:22:35) ~moot: what do you mean
- (20:22:43) ~moot: they see a reason like they always have
- (20:22:45) ~moot: they just also see the post now
- (20:22:52) BluRay: huzzah
- (20:22:58) +duanemoody: i mean, if that reason form field ever becomes editable again
- (20:23:03) ~moot: it wont be
- (20:23:10) ~moot: they're still all templated, and always will be
- (20:23:23) +duanemoody: i miss adding that personal touch
- (20:23:29) +duanemoody: oh well
- (20:23:35) +duanemoody: but thanks
- (20:23:39) BluRay: this is useful
- (20:23:55) BluRay: lol hmm
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- (20:24:27) ~moot: so long as people are doing proper bans/BRs, this should vindicate people from a lot of the bitching
- (20:24:35) BluRay: yes
- (20:24:57) BluRay: kind of sick of people playing dumb
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- (20:46:53) +RapeApe9k: moot, do you have a screenshot of the new ban available?
- (20:47:28) +RapeApe9k: no doubt this will cause a storm of meta, but it's for the best
- (20:50:35) BluRay: exploited by ban evades
- (20:50:41) BluRay: evaders
- (20:50:42) %kami`: indeed
- (20:51:30) +RapeApe9k: ban evaders are going to ban evade. they're going to shit the place up no matter what we do
- (20:51:56) +RapeApe9k: but regular posters are often really confused by the long delay between breaking a rule and the ban itself
- (20:52:11) +RapeApe9k: they forget what they posted, and think bans are arbitrary and random
- (20:52:25) +RapeApe9k: makes us look incompetent, and makes them angry and likely to lash out
- (20:53:00) +Beam: /q/ is gonna be booming with smartasses soon :(
- (20:53:15) +RapeApe9k: this solves that, even though the ban evaders are certainly going to have a field day with it
- (20:53:52) +duanemoody: https://images.4chan.org/co/src/1357616532244.png
- (20:54:00) +duanemoody: it's official, i suck at this
- (20:55:49) +duanemoody: seriously, we used to be cool
- (21:00:04) ~moot: autobans, thread bans, "other..." (no templated) bans, etc wont show the post
- (21:00:07) ~moot: only templated bans and ban requests
- (21:00:34) +duanemoody: thanks for clearing that up
- (21:01:21) +duanemoody: this is nice, more janitors would be more directly helpful for me, but i can't speak for others here
- (21:01:32) +duanemoody: again, good to give users feedback
- (21:05:37) ~moot: somebody BR something
- (21:06:39) +cisrulez: Done
- (21:06:48) BluRay: huehuehue
- (21:07:55) +AoC: sent a few
- (21:08:27) +AoC: was really waiting for this feature, things should be clearer for the end user a lot more know
- (21:08:31) +AoC: *now
- (21:32:41) +cisrulez: If I may make a suggestion to system improvements, I would really like to see a button when I BR someone for "commercial spam" if that URL can be added to the spam filter database automatically/semiautomatically
- (21:32:50) +cisrulez: Similar to this prototype: http://i.imgur.com/yng5W.jpg
- (21:33:36) +cisrulez: Well I guess that prototype sucks but you get the idea
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- (21:41:16) ~moot: i doubt we'll automate adding URLs to the blacklist
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- (21:41:34) ~moot: it should be possible for more people to edit it at some point soon though
- (23:04:45) ~moot: if nikka comes around tell him he's not fired, but i need to talk to him
- (23:04:55) ~moot: i disabled his account temporarily
- (23:56:14) ~moot: alright
- (23:56:18) ~moot: the banned page is live
- (23:56:27) ~moot: be extra careful with BRs
- (23:56:36) ~moot: because now you'll never hear the end of it if you're over zealous
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