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[6:28:30 PM] Kumori: given she fetishizes Nazism)

[6:28:42 PM] Tirette: I thought everyone knew that?

[6:28:47 PM] Kumori: Heck no.

[6:28:59 PM] Tirette: Why do you fly swastikas on your MSN name, then?

[6:29:07 PM] Kumori: And I don't fetishize Nazism, I just like the suits.

[6:29:26 PM] Kumori: There are no swastikas on my MSN name.

[6:30:14 PM] Tirette: 卐 ĸuмогі ѕніпрi SS • (stigmatamartyr@comcast.net/MSN)

[6:30:44 PM] Kumori: Kumori Shinpi says (6:29 PM)

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[6:31:15 PM | Edited 6:31:16 PM] Tirette: You flew them at one point. I figured you didn't hide it because of that.

[6:32:06 PM] Kumori: Shows how long you last signed into msn.

[6:32:40 PM] Tirette: Yeah.

[6:33:38 PM] Tirette: I didn't know that was something you wanted to hide from the public. I'm sorry for that.

[6:34:28 PM] Kumori: I only talk to my sister on msn.

[6:34:39 PM] Kumori: And you when you last used it.

[6:35:15 PM] Tirette: Also, if I recall correctly, you built quite a few swastikas on the Minecraft.

[6:35:39 PM] Kumori: Private server.

[6:35:52 PM] Kumori: Trolling.

[6:36:02 PM] Tirette: Mmhm.

[6:38:13 PM] Tirette: I could go on, but it's a fairly pointless argument at this point.

[6:38:33 PM] Tirette: And you still haven't answered my earlier question.

[6:39:02 PM] Kumori: Which?

[6:39:54 PM] Tirette: [6:28 PM] Tirette:

 

<<< Are you going to drop me now?

[6:40:12 PM] Kumori: No, but I am not happy.

[6:40:26 PM] Tirette: What are you unhappy with?

[6:42:06 PM] Kumori: I've been pointing this out for a long time: Kumori is a problem. She runs the Chan like her own, personal concentration camp (which is oddly appropriate, given she fetishizes Nazism). She's an unpleasant person. Having to deal with her is unpleasant. And she's made the Chan an unpleasant place. You want to know why so many people have left? It's because everybody has to post knowing that the tiniest iota of what might be perceived as rudeness can and will get you banned. But at the same time, Kumori is allowed to be a huge fucking jerk to whoever the hell she wants without consequence. I honestly don't think she cares that this place is going down the shitter. She's too obsessed with keeping her pretend power.

[6:44:02 PM] Kumori: >>905

[6:44:21 PM] Kumori: I agree 100%. I distinctly remember thinking this when my UGC team had a scrim against hers, and she was constantly throwing the word 'faggot' around. Our team captain is gay, and so are a few members of the team, but they didn't say anything, because they were sure she'd fly off the handle, and the match had already been delayed an hour as it was.

[6:45:01 PM] Kumori: I only said faggot once un regards to one of our members being late on mumble,

[6:45:09 PM] Tirette: I didn't make the latter post.

[6:45:42 PM] Tirette: I already explained that I used such harsh language because I was infuriated at the shit that was going down on the Chan because of your mods and your adminning. While I won't take back that I disagree with your administration, I also explained that my opinion of your work on the Chan has no bearing on how I feel about you personally. I don't think that, just because we're close to eachother, you should be immune from any criticism from me. We just had a conversation the other night where I said nobody is perfect, including you.

[6:45:43 PM] Kumori: You replied to it because it was a bitch post about what I said in game.

[6:46:02 PM] Kumori: Like it matters to what I do on thechan.

[6:46:24 PM] Tirette: It really doesn't.

[6:46:35 PM] Tirette: Like I said, it has no relevance to what kind of person I think you are.

[6:47:07 PM] Tirette: You've made a point of improving yourself and aiming for perfection.

[6:47:15 PM | Edited 6:47:18 PM] Tirette: I only think the Chan is where you need to do that the most.

[6:48:22 PM] Tirette: If you think I shouldn't be allowed to criticize bad decisions you've made, then I'll just drop the subject and not talk about it anymore.

[6:49:00 PM] Kumori: I am concerned of the legitimacvy of the crit.

[6:49:14 PM] Kumori: Eating typing

[6:49:23 PM] Tirette: Go on.

[6:50:29 PM] Tirette: It's worth pointing out that this entire conversation arising has relevance to one of my criticisms of you.

[6:50:33 PM] Tirette: You use IP logging for personal, biased reasons.

[6:50:55 PM] Kumori: Uhh, no.

[6:51:15 PM] Kumori: I just came across the post being yours when I was checking how many times you were banned.

[6:51:19 PM] Kumori: And that post came up.

[6:51:28 PM] Tirette: Which wouldn't have come up if the IP wasn't logged.

[6:51:31 PM] Kumori: And I had to double check if it was really you that made that post because I couldn't believe it.

[6:51:48 PM] Tirette: Either way, you're personally benefitting from it and violating the entire point of Anonymity.

[6:52:02 PM] Kumori: You know how imageboards work, right? Every post is IP logged.

[6:52:09 PM] Tirette: Yes.

[6:52:33 PM] Kumori: You're saying that I use that for some twisted plot that I don't do.

[6:52:40 PM] Tirette: Not some twisted plot.

[6:52:45 PM] Kumori: Why would I waste my time?

[6:52:47 PM] Tirette: Merely to benefit yourself.

[6:52:52 PM] Tirette: For your personal interests.

[6:52:53 PM] Kumori: Why would I?

[6:52:57 PM] Kumori: What interests?

[6:53:00 PM] Kumori: I don't even BOTHER.

[6:53:08 PM] Tirette: Someone insulted your baby website and you're mad because of it.

[6:53:23 PM] Kumori: It's not like I go on my computer to check out recent posts to see who said what.

[6:53:48 PM] Kumori: >Someone insulted your baby website and you're mad because of it.

[6:53:50 PM] Kumori: Bullshit.

[6:53:53 PM] Kumori: I don't care.

[6:54:08 PM] Tirette: The only times I've ever seen you genuinely mad are when I criticize the Chan.

[6:54:49 PM] Kumori: I'm mad now because you're thinking that I get mad when someone insults the Chan, and that I use logged IPs for personal interests.

[6:54:53 PM] Kumori: I'm getting pissed.

[6:55:16 PM] Kumori: I swear you're just trying to piss me off by making up the lamest shit.

[6:55:34 PM] Tirette: It's hard for me to say otherwise when you're acting like this.

[6:55:39 PM] Tirette: But fine. I'll drop it.

[6:55:45 PM] Kumori: Acting like what?

[6:55:59 PM] Tirette: Like a mother bear mauling someone threatening her baby.

[6:56:10 PM] Kumori: What did I just say?

[6:56:42 PM] Kumori: Insult the Chan all you want, or anybody for that matter. I don't give two halves of a shit.

[6:57:05 PM] Kumori: But when /you/ insult me, it's a horse of a different color it might as well be a zebra.

[6:57:12 PM] Tirette: You were angry long before I brought that up.

[6:57:24 PM] Kumori: I wasn't even angry.

[6:57:45 PM] Tirette: And I've said before that I'm not insulting you personally. I'm merely concerned with how you run the Chan.

[6:57:50 PM] Tirette: Do I have to explain that a third time?

[6:57:58 PM] Tirette: I think you're a fucking great person.

[6:58:10 PM] Tirette: But I think you're running the Chan into a lake of shit.

[6:59:03 PM] Kumori: The entire post you made screams personal insults.

[6:59:16 PM] Kumori: The other mods came to me at the time and were like.. "Does this person know you?"

[6:59:28 PM] Kumori: "You fetishize Nazism?"

[6:59:48 PM] Tirette: Again. I was mistaken in thinking that you wore that publically. And I apologize.

[7:00:00 PM] Tirette: But that's only one part of my post.

[7:00:14 PM] Kumori: >She's too obsessed with keeping her pretend power.

[7:00:24 PM] Tirette: Yes.

[7:00:33 PM] Tirette: I've told you before that I think you should just take the Chan down completely.

[7:00:50 PM] Tirette: There is absolutely no reason it should still exist.

[7:01:43 PM] Kumori: That's going too far.

[7:01:54 PM] Tirette: Why?

[7:02:03 PM] Kumori: Can you explain why it shouldn't exist?

[7:02:22 PM] Tirette: Because the only purpose it serves is to act as a container for drama and shit slinging.

[7:02:37 PM] Kumori: And like I said before, I don't run the Chan, the mods do. Don't equate that to me.

[7:02:48 PM] Tirette: You assigned the mods. They're your responsibility.

[7:03:03 PM] Tirette: And it's insanely dumb to say you don't run the chan.

[7:03:11 PM] Kumori: You should say, "I don't agree with how the mods are running shit."

[7:03:12 PM] Tirette: You are the ONLY person that runs it.

[7:03:19 PM] Kumori: Otherwise I'm going to shift the blame onto myself and leave.

[7:03:19 PM] Tirette: I did say that.

[7:03:28 PM] Tirette: That is exactly what I said.

[7:03:34 PM] Tirette: But you're responsible too, for giving them their power.

[7:03:41 PM] Kumori: [6:58:10 PM] Tirette: But I think you're running the Chan into a lake of shit.

[7:04:01 PM] Tirette: Through your decision to assign and keep certain mods, yes.

[7:04:16 PM] Tirette: The mods are the wheels. You're the driver.

[7:04:53 PM] Kumori: I'm more like the guy that sits alone by himself looking at blueprints.

[7:05:15 PM] Tirette: Okay. I am really starting to lose my patience.

[7:05:17 PM] Tirette: YOU are the one in charge of assigning mods.

[7:05:26 PM] Tirette: YOU are the head of the Chan.

[7:05:36 PM] Tirette: Like it or not, it is YOUR decision ALONE who gets to moderate it.

[7:06:02 PM] Kumori: You can say that the Chan serves to act as a container for drama and shit slinging, but the same can be said for any other site. With TF2chan, people can give honest critism while keeping babies out.

[7:06:13 PM] Tirette: And get banned because of it.

[7:06:51 PM] Tirette: That's my entire problem with most of your mods. They're self-serving cunts that piss on the ban button when someone posts something they don't like.

[7:07:01 PM] Tirette: Criticism is nonexistent. People are encourage NOT to criticize because of how the mods ACT.

[7:07:06 PM] Tirette: It doesn't matter what the mods SAY.

[7:07:13 PM] Tirette: Everyone fucking knows what will ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

[7:07:56 PM] Kumori: It's been publicly known and shown that the mods won't ban for critisim of anykind anymore for a while now.

[7:08:15 PM] Tirette: Like when every thread that criticizes the chan gets locked for absolutely no reason, right?

[7:08:29 PM] Kumori: The only bans on critism that happened were in regards to douchebag adhominem posts.

[7:08:47 PM] Tirette: Based on what? How hurt the victim's feelings were?

[7:09:04 PM] Kumori: Uhhh, every thread that has criticized the Chan has been wide open.

[7:09:17 PM] Tirette: Absolutely not. They all get locked.

[7:09:27 PM] Kumori: When discussion is over, they get locked, yes.

[7:09:52 PM] Tirette: What, so if you deem a thread "over" you can lock it?

[7:09:58 PM] Tirette: That makes no sense.

[7:10:01 PM] Tirette: Why should it be locked?

[7:10:03 PM] Tirette: Are you afraid of more posts in it?

[7:10:15 PM] Tirette: Is there a REASON there shouldn't be any more posts?

[7:10:19 PM] Kumori: The OP themselves ask the mods in PM to have it locked.

[7:10:26 PM] Tirette: In one case, yes.

[7:10:46 PM] Tirette: Which is why I said I've been pleased with how the Chan has been going in the most recent times.

[7:10:59 PM] Tirette: But before that the threads would get locked simply because the mods' feelings were hurt.

[7:11:23 PM] Kumori: The only reason there shouldn't be any more posts in regards to a thread that criticizes the Chan is when the discussion has died over the course of days. Then it gets locked to prevent trolling/flamebaiting/necrobumping.

[7:11:40 PM] Tirette: Which shows just how much you distrust the users.

[7:11:49 PM] Tirette: You EXPECT them to troll or flame.

[7:11:50 PM] Kumori: Or double jeapary.

[7:11:58 PM] Tirette: And there is no such thing as necrobumping on an imageboard.

[7:12:11 PM] Tirette: Jeapary?

[7:12:15 PM] Kumori: Jeopardy.

[7:12:26 PM] Tirette: How does that have any relevance?

[7:12:51 PM] Kumori: Say discussion in a thread criticized the Chan ceases for a whole week, it's deemed over, and gets locked. To prevent double jeopardy.

[7:13:15 PM] Kumori: It not dicussion ceasing, it's when the problem is resolved.

[7:13:28 PM] Kumori: It gets locked to prevent double jeopardy.

[7:13:35 PM] Tirette: That makes absolutely no sense.

[7:13:45 PM] Kumori: Yeah it does.

[7:13:56 PM] Tirette: Explain again on different terms?

[7:14:08 PM] Kumori: Discussion is over, problem resolved, been like that for a week. Thread gets closed.

[7:14:30 PM] Kumori: But if it remains open, it allows revival the thread with meaningless shit.

[7:14:38 PM] Kumori: Or shitslinging.

[7:14:54 PM] Tirette: Why should you be allowed to determine when discussion is over?

[7:15:00 PM | Edited 7:15:05 PM] Tirette: And why do you EXPECT the thread to devolve into shitslinging?

[7:15:11 PM] Kumori: Because it's an imageboard.

[7:15:16 PM] Tirette: Yes, and?

[7:15:28 PM] Kumori: To prevent it from turning into 4chan filth.

[7:15:42 PM] Kumori: Why shouldn't it be locked?

[7:15:56 PM] Tirette: Are you going to go lock every single thread on the Chan that hasn't been replied to in a week?

[7:16:00 PM] Tirette: Because there are hundreds of them.

[7:16:02 PM] Kumori: It's basically rank and filing the thread. Like in any other support forum. Problem solved, thread gets closed.

[7:16:09 PM] Kumori: Like on any other site.

[7:16:19 PM] Tirette: I haven't see any site that does that.

[7:16:49 PM] Tirette: It's not your privilege to decide when discussion is over. It's the userbase's privilege.

[7:16:58 PM] Tirette: Basically what you're doing is telling them to shut up and stop talking about it.

[7:17:04 PM] Tirette: You asked me why it shouldn't be locked.

[7:17:08 PM] Kumori: It's rank and filing.

[7:17:21 PM] Tirette: Because any new post is going to automatically be bad?

[7:17:35 PM] Tirette: You asked me why the thread shouldn't be locked.

[7:17:40 PM] Kumori: Rank and filing.

[7:17:50 PM] Kumori: Like on any other website. Problem solved, thread locked.

[7:17:59 PM] Tirette: What websites?

[7:18:07 PM] Tirette: Threads aren't for solving problems. They're for discussion.

[7:18:26 PM] Kumori: Kumori rubs her face.

[7:18:54 PM] Tirette: You're running the Chan like a courtroom.

[7:18:59 PM] Tirette: It's an imageboard.

[7:19:01 PM] Tirette: Where people discuss things.

[7:19:11 PM] Tirette: Locking threads for no reason fights against that.

[7:19:31 PM] Tirette: The thread is not over simply because you think the problem is solved.