Megaman Odyssey Pyro Man Stage 2 Discussion


(21:34:37) Thanatos-Zero: "After Megaman destroys the generator, the section he is in gets sealed off to contain and limit the amount of destruction and also to prevent the escape of any intruder by using jams. The emergency generators have activated, to still provide the entire facility with enough power until the main generator and any damage has repaired.
However due the instability Rock caused, several pipelines which used to pump lava and matrials have increased in inner pressure, causing them to burst open. However because the pipelines break, large amounts of lava leaked, which not only mess up with the machines. At some point all the lava leaks will block all of the pathways where new fresh water comes into facility.
The fresh water which also helped to cool down Rock in the first stage was also used to generate electricy by the main generator. Without it, the destruction of the sealed section is guuranteed and closeby to the sealed section.
At the starting point into the facility itself there will be a broken wall which allows Rock to escape the sealed area, however the nearby jamming is still too strong to escape via teleport, so Rock needs to go further. He however doesn't need tp worry anymore of being destroyed within the sealed area.
Before he leaves the entire jaming field, he encounters a enraged Pyro Man, which is but focusing to take down Rock for the damage he caused.
Defeating him allows Rock to finally escape, as he hears Roll's crying via radio signal, ending the mission by teleporting out."
(21:35:05) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: nah i hate tumblr
(21:35:18) Gaia: then again, why would you steal a robot to begin with, knowing full well this robot's going to be sold anyway to the highest bidder against it's will?
(21:35:24) The_Walrus: well you're being tumblr right now FuK so
(21:35:26) Lamda: so maybe stop acting like its more annoying denizens
(21:35:31) Lamda: now, TZ
(21:35:40) MegaBusterBloo: >3 hours
(21:35:47) Lamda: i have two issues with that
(21:35:50) MegaBusterBloo: >people still holding an argument
(21:35:56) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: it's deadchat bloo
(21:35:59) Lamda: the first is that i still don't think the jamming makes much sense
(21:36:01) MegaBusterBloo: damn you people are tenacious
(21:36:09) Threxx: it was less of an argument and more FuK being a complete ignorant jackass
(21:36:11) Lamda: it's explained better, but i still don't quite get "why"
(21:36:19) Lamda: and here's my reasoning for it
(21:36:24) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: threxx keep going you add nothing!
(21:36:25) Lamda: hear me out entirely
(21:36:32) Valo: i live
(21:36:34) Lamda: fuk put your dick away it's over
(21:36:50) MegaBusterBloo looks at Neo's dead body
(21:36:51) Threxx: i am not attempting to add anything
(21:36:58) MegaBusterBloo: but i killed you yesterday
(21:36:59) Lamda: the seal is to prevent anyone from entering a hazardous area
(21:37:02) Threxx: i am attempting to educate bloo about your ignorance
(21:37:06) Lamda: this makes sense
(21:37:14) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: who the truly ignorant one though?
(21:37:25) The_Walrus: you
(21:37:26) Threxx: not the person who can form a proper sentence
(21:37:27) MegaBusterBloo: i am already aware of it, threxx
(21:37:30) Threxx: clearly
(21:37:32) Threxx: good
(21:37:52) Threxx: also not the person who makes a KKK joke outside of 4chan and thinks it is funny or even remotely appropriate
(21:37:55) Lamda: the one willfully closing off proven-plausible possibilities simply because he can't see them
(21:37:58) Threxx: i hope you didn't think i forgot that
(21:37:58) Lamda: ANY FUCKIGN WAY
(21:38:02) Threxx: because i didn't
(21:38:13) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: oh are we dragging old stuff up now?
(21:38:24) Lamda: threxx is black
(21:38:26) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: how about the time you called me cancer?
(21:38:33) Lamda: he's well within his right to be pissed off at you for that
(21:38:36) Threxx: yeah i think
(21:38:40) Gaia shoves neo down a flight of stairs for the dropkick from earlier
(21:38:40) Threxx: thats when i called you cancer
(21:38:42) Thanatos-Zero: Darn I forgot to mention what the combat and non-combat robots are in the process
(21:38:48) Lamda: don't worry
(21:38:53) Thanatos-Zero: roles
(21:38:57) Lamda: i can understand how they'd work
(21:38:59) MegaBusterBloo flops out of chat so he doesn't get involved in anything dumb
(21:39:00) Valo: What do you call a kkk comedy club?
(21:39:03) Valo: The jkkk
(21:39:07) Lamda: now, those trapped inside the sealed area are presumably left to die
(21:39:08) Threxx: :/
(21:39:16) Valo flees
(21:39:16) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: perfect timing neo
(21:39:21) Lamda: this doesn't particularly settle well with me, but for the sake of gamepaly i can suspend disbelief
(21:39:35) Gaia dropkicks neo for that terrible jocke
(21:39:47) Lamda: the combat bots make sense ONLY because wily's in control
(21:39:54) Valo: It's not racism it's word play!
(21:40:03) Lamda: if it were just a regular plant, they would not make sense, because who would prevent escape in an emergency
(21:40:11) Threxx: it was just a horrible pun
(21:40:17) Thanatos-Zero: Yep
(21:40:18) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: no but everything related to the kk apparently is
(21:40:20) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: somehow
(21:40:24) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: it always is
(21:40:25) Thanatos-Zero: it is no regular plant
(21:40:31) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: kkk* god keyborad
(21:40:34) Threxx: yes because it is the fucking KKK
(21:40:38) Lamda: uh
(21:40:42) Threxx: what about this does not compute in your tiny ass brain
(21:40:46) Thanatos-Zero: It is a plant made exclusively by Wily for his own ends
(21:40:54) Lamda: couple hundred years of blatant hatred leading to murder, rape, and lynching?
(21:40:59) Thanatos-Zero: No human personal
(21:41:00) Lamda: yeah that's allowed to be hated
(21:41:11) Lamda: you wouldn't tell people to get over the holocaust...i hope
(21:41:25) Lamda: now
(21:41:28) Furosuto_Kibatodosu: meh at this point i don't even know what i'm doing sooo
(21:41:30) Lamda: here's the BIG issue i have
(21:41:37) Lamda: obviously
(21:41:44) Lamda: the plant is in meltdown mode
(21:41:50) Lamda: so the lava will not stop flowing
(21:42:00) Lamda: would that not affect the boss fight
(21:42:18) Lamda: if the lava can melt through the entire rest of the stage, what's to stop it from melting the boss doors?
(21:42:25) MegaBusterBloo: if you don't know what you're doing
(21:42:31) Lamda: this suggests a timed boss, and that's a huge NO
(21:42:33) MegaBusterBloo: then kindly slither off the internet
(21:42:41) MegaBusterBloo: and don't come back until you do
(21:42:46) Thanatos-Zero: Good point
(21:43:19) Lamda: this is where my issue with the stage split comes into play
(21:43:29) Lamda: in my opinion you can effectively do this one of two ways
(21:43:33) Gaia: ever thought about that section in ZX1?
(21:43:48) Thanatos-Zero: you mean Area K
(21:43:49) Gaia: where there was lava flowing that killed you on impact?
(21:43:58) Gaia: yes, and I do mean Area K
(21:44:17) Gaia: think about how they did it for a bit
(21:44:20) Lamda: have the battle be cut short because of the lava, and mega has to give chase, with the explanation for the teleport failure NOT be jamming, but the immense amount of chaos going on in the area not giving proper coordinates for a teleportation to occur properly
(21:44:23) Gaia: then look back to your idea
(21:44:26) Lamda: OR
(21:45:12) Thanatos-Zero: A good idea
(21:45:20) Lamda: turn the split stage into one longer one, and have it so that there is a specific point in the plant made JUST in the event of a lava overflow with materials able to stop it, and after you clear that spot you continue on a non-flooding portion of the stage which ends in the boss battle
(21:45:20) Thanatos-Zero: tell the other
(21:46:12) Gaia: the second option may bump the screen count up a bit, but would explain the mechanic
(21:46:19) MegaBusterBloo: about teleportation...
(21:46:20) MegaBusterBloo: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Mega-Man-X-How-do-Teleports-Work-535576668
(21:46:24) Gaia: just as better as option a
(21:46:28) MegaBusterBloo: gud theory
(21:46:42) Furosuto_Kibatodosu is grouchy
(21:46:44) Lamda: that theory is what i used to explain this
(21:46:48) Gaia: *good, god my grammar sucks
(21:46:53) Thanatos-Zero: Well I was going to design the level going to higher levels, so the lava overflow shouldn't be a worry
(21:47:02) MegaBusterBloo: okay
(21:47:17) Lamda: but the door thing would be a supercooled industrial shutter chilled and treated to such a temperature and stability that is made specifically to stop the flow of lava in the event of a critical meltdown
(21:47:30) Lamda: or something like that
(21:47:45) Thanatos-Zero: Yes, a super seal
(21:47:51) Lamda: i mean you would have to explicitly say this in-game
(21:47:51) The_Walrus: and then i broke bit dungeon
(21:47:52) The_Walrus: woohoo
(21:47:53) MegaBusterBloo wishes he didn't get Windows 8.1
(21:48:06) MegaBusterBloo: i want windows 7 now ;-;
(21:48:15) Lamda: classic megaman didn't have a comm system like later games so i don't quite know how you'd do that, unless in pre-mission briefing or something
(21:48:19) Gaia: despite the wording, sounds plausable
(21:48:36) Thanatos-Zero: We have pre-mission to be exact
(21:48:43) Lamda: ah, good
(21:48:49) Thanatos-Zero: it is in Duplex
(21:48:53) Lamda: so then have mega prepared for the overflow
(21:48:55) Lamda: i.e.
(21:49:06) Thanatos-Zero: And we do it for Pyro as well.
(21:49:44) Thanatos-Zero: I am going to copy paste the chat so please no replies in a minute okay?
(21:49:54) Gaia: if anything, this can also help the event where some of the mega man characters lose all their health
(21:50:11) Valo: lam i have a question when you get a moment
(21:50:17) Gaia: instead of just flat-out dying, they are immediately beamed back home for repairs if taken too much damage
(21:50:55) Lamda: "mega man, your mission here is to shut down this generator and stop production. the generator has a backup measure in the event of a hostile shutdown to break the magma seals, flooding the area with molten lava. however, there is an emergency seal beyond the generator room that was made specifically to halt the lava flow if necessary. once you make it past that seal, you can fulfill your secondary objective and stop pyro man"
(21:50:57) MegaBusterBloo: go click the autoscroll button at the bottom right, @TZ
(21:50:59) Thanatos-Zero: If that was so easy
(21:51:12) MegaBusterBloo: ?
(21:51:27) Lamda: moment granted