15:26	elixer	.off friendly
15:27	elixer	.off social
15:32	elixer	.def morningstar
15:34	elixer	.off bob
15:35	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we can start razing them
15:35	elixer	.def gimme j
15:42	elixer	.def torture
15:44	elixer	.list stealth rogue
15:46	elixer	.def threads
15:47	elixer	.def morningst
15:56	elixer	.def threads
15:57	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea and im sure they have lots of credits
15:58	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): they dont need to take acres
15:59	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we could just release
15:59	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): guess that makes us vulnerable if they send dragon though
15:59	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): No better to hit than release
16:05	elixer	.econ bob
16:08	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Bob will 3x bush right?
16:08	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea
16:09	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): thanks for reminding me
16:09	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): on who
16:09	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): sneaky?
16:09	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Yes
16:09	elixer	.bush sneaky
16:09	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Need to drop his off more.
16:13	elixer	.econ bob
16:16	sn0wballz	.listwar intel
16:16	sn0wballz	.kdecon
16:16	sn0wballz	.kdeconwar
16:24	elixer	peons are going up for them
16:24	elixer	we do need to fix our runes
16:25	elixer	also we are going to keep dropping their provs one at a time
17:20	bot	SAPP PM 6591059032 [Cyrus] (Benedict Yong): Ok
18:03	kotty	.etalist
18:03	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): But big time is hit
18:04	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Who we hit
18:04	kotty	??
18:15	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): I think lining up armies would be good. Might take a wave or 2 and need to be managed with +- hours but it would help our hits a lot
18:16	kotty	.sappadmin Yeah, ok nn time !
18:16	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Can use armies that just went out as a timer sorta
18:17	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Kotty. Can you .setchain
18:18	kotty	.sappadmin who to set ?
18:18	kotty	.chain
18:20	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Only Diana and snow will need targets
18:20	kotty	.sappadmin I don't know who is diana hitting, you may want to pm her
18:21	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Ok
18:24	kotty	.etalist
19:18	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I could really use mv if we want to keep me basically UB.
19:20	sn0wballz	.sappadmin who are we aiding
19:20	sn0wballz	.online
19:20	sn0wballz	.seeningame
19:26	sn0wballz	.cain
19:26	sn0wballz	.chain
19:26	sn0wballz	.sappadmin who are we chaining?
19:29	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): I think we should aid anyone online with pop space
19:33	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I just need a fucking mv to save 500 def specs.
19:35	sn0wballz	.tm blackout
19:35	sn0wballz	.tm
19:35	sn0wballz	.sappadmin I can try, I only have .8 wpa but it's higher. need runes tho
19:35	sn0wballz	.tm blizz
19:41	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Sent all I had. Under 1k.
19:41	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Where are all our rogues with good wpa?
19:42	sn0wballz	.list land
19:42	sn0wballz	.sotc utopiahell
19:43	sn0wballz	.econ utopia hell
19:43	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): They need to be here in a few to prop azazel anyway.
19:43	sn0wballz	.econ utopiahell
19:43	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Will try sev
19:43	sn0wballz	.eta azrael
19:43	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Ty
19:44	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Got glut and ms
19:44	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Nice! That saves me 9 ms ticks.
19:45	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Cost 8k runes xD
19:45	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Saved 4-500 dspecs
19:45	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): And pezzies
19:46	sn0wballz	.eta az
19:46	sn0wballz	.sotc azaz
20:11	sn0wballz	.sappadmin so what is our plan? I know we have one or somethign close. we need to get a handle on it and execute. this war lasting way too long mofos
20:14	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Well honestly this war could last a week longer and I think that is there plan. Our rogues need to destroy their attackers and only way we can win at this point is deep chain their halfers down to 50k NW one at a time.
20:15	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): They are dragging because they are able to pump their 800 acre halfers. They can probably still beat us if they are committed to 7 days more war.
20:22	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Who are we hitting snow?
20:27	sn0wballz	.off blackout
20:27	sn0wballz	.wardgrid
20:28	sn0wballz	.sappadmin checking now
20:28	sn0wballz	.wargrid
20:29	sn0wballz	.sappadmin or just hit whatever lololol
20:31	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): What are the tms up to?
20:32	sn0wballz	.sappadmin they just prop'd azaz
20:33	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Sry. I think I can DT him. Need fresh sot though.
20:33	sn0wballz	.sappadmin it's up
20:34	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Not quite. I am just short by about 1k
20:34	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Maybe 2k
20:35	sn0wballz	.sappadmin dan can you sot azazel plz
20:37	sn0wballz	.sotc timor
20:41	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): We get rid of all their off specs and they will slow way day. Give us time to drop their bottom provs to where we need. And should kill the gains on any provs we prop
20:41	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): So we can chain them a bit easier. Also I liked fates suggestion of syncing up armies.
20:43	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): I got that sot snow
20:43	elixer	yo
20:44	sn0wballz	yoyo
20:44	sn0wballz	trying to get a handle on this I just dont want to step on toes
20:44	elixer	you wont
20:44	sn0wballz	seems we lack a bit of direction. may be good to lay out something for everyone so they know what's up.
20:45	elixer	tbh i think kotty is slightly lost, as well as myself for a bit
20:45	sn0wballz	at least put something in monarch message about how we're still in it, etc
20:45	sn0wballz	yeah
20:45	sn0wballz	so let's get it back
20:45	elixer	ok
20:45	elixer	you have time to chat for a minute then?
20:45	sn0wballz	kinda
20:45	elixer	talking to gf
20:45	elixer	hold up
20:45	sn0wballz	do it in initech
20:49	sn0wballz	.lasthit
20:51	sn0wballz	.sotc elix
20:54	elixer	can i make you stew to do that?
20:54	elixer	lol
20:55	sn0wballz	yes
20:55	sn0wballz	do it
20:56	elixer	done
21:17	bot	SAPP PM 15037521834 [Colton] (Colton/Psychodelic): 5 days and 4 chastity
21:22	sn0wballz	.sapp colton ok, ms is gone.
21:23	elixer	.list tpa avian
21:29	elixer	.oporders todo
21:29	elixer	are you doing that?
21:30	elixer	are you doing that?
21:30	elixer	.oporders todo
21:30	sn0wballz	yeah
21:31	elixer	ok
21:33	sn0wballz	.sapp colton yup, i think everyone is :(
21:34	elixer	i think he is leaving after war
21:34	sn0wballz	yeah I dont know what to say to him
21:34	sn0wballz	besides get over it
21:38	bot	SAPP PM 15037521834 [Colton] (Colton/Psychodelic): Nah like not the war this whole utopia thing
21:42	elixer	he needs to toughen up
21:43	sn0wballz	yah, i been saying that forever
21:53	bot	SAPP PM 15037521834 [Colton] (Colton/Psychodelic): Do I have a target?
21:55	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): what you all think of only sending low offense out on our avian. we will be keeping ms off of you
21:55	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): but to reduce chance of hits we can keep most elites and 1 gen home
21:56	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): they can hit up to 50-55k defense, but that would be using almost all elites they have as well
21:56	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): get them pumped so they can start sending out more again
21:57	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): btw i work in 1h and wont have much access.
21:57	elixer	dont even want to msg psych cause i know he is still mad at me
21:58	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): so trying to get this set now so we have clear goals going forward
21:59	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): If we keep ms off that fine.
22:00	sn0wballz	.off colton
22:01	sn0wballz	.sapp colton one sec
22:01	sn0wballz	.eta colton
22:02	sn0wballz	.sapp colton can you 2x move along plz
22:02	sn0wballz	.lasthit
22:06	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we will also keep faery on their attackers and prop them as they come army home.
22:06	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): to keep dropping that sendable offense by their provs in your range
22:11	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Can we ns thier bigger provs so that faerys can hit for more acres
22:12	bot	SAPP PM 15037521834 [Colton] (Colton/Psychodelic): Sorry I had only a couple minutes to hit so I went ahead and made a hit
22:13	bot	SAPP PM 15037521834 [Colton] (Colton/Psychodelic): Memo for blizz: people got my back so your ass would be gone anyway if I wanted
22:20	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea i think we should try it
22:20	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): i got mixed answers but its worth a shot
22:21	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): think ns kills same amount of off specs out as they do if army is home
22:21	elixer	.off fero
22:24	elixer	.listwar ds
22:24	elixer	.listwar defhome
22:24	elixer	.needsom
22:28	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): outperu has 20k offense home in elites
22:28	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): think we can overpop that to make him release more?
22:28	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): or not worth
22:28	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): cause we would prolly have to take him pretty low
22:29	elixer	.somc gimme
22:29	elixer	.def movealong
22:30	elixer	.def movealong
22:30	elixer	.def thread
22:32	elixer	.chat hit outperu 1x real fast
22:32	elixer	.def outperu
22:32	elixer	.chat wanna see those gains
22:33	elixer	.sotc fero
22:42	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): So should we continue with ns on azal?
22:43	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Should soon be able to hit him if we continue with it
22:44	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea i think if kills are the same with army out then we can ns easier
22:44	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): plus dont have to wait for armies to come home
22:44	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): I will test some now
22:45	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Looks like no
22:45	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Less kills
22:46	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Kills are less when troops out but still kills some. Much higher kills on troops home though.
22:47	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea i got mixed answers when i looked.
22:47	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): so im not sure
22:47	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): I tested now
22:48	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I am sure
22:48	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): And kills was about 1/3 of army home
22:48	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Also specs die much more than elites
22:48	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): then we should pick targets first with a good amount of dspecs as well as offense
22:48	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea that i knew
22:49	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Yes. Target people with more specs. People that turtle like this is when we really could use ms.
22:50	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Would say timorsan
22:50	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Highest dspecs
22:50	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): And one of the highest in ospecs too
22:52	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Can we get new som on him?
22:53	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): New tick soon
22:53	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Also Ima be at work for 4h
22:55	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Will be in and out. But continue dropping lower Halfling, I think oh ok.
22:55	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Since we have hits in him
23:05	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Failed both soms on him
23:07	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I will try.
23:07	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): I can try too
23:07	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Up
03:07	kotty	Snow I am sending you soldiers and gcs
03:09	kotty	.etalist war
03:34	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Its probably too late now right?
03:35	kotty	.sappadmin It is too late to chain them now but they will still within our TM control, I just NS 5k troops from Elfling
03:35	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Chaining Mystics is not exactly a good idea unless you are able to drop them onto land defense so you can massacre. Otherwise they get chain and will then run a train on you with their now huge wpa
03:35	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): I wanted to start on the rogues.
03:37	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Lots of mistakes were made this war, not only the start. Only thing we can do now is make plans to win with what we have
03:40	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Just getting avian ub can have a better overall effect imo. As long as they can stay up too
03:40	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): We seem so short on soldiers.
03:44	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): I think everyone has stopped drafting
03:44	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Which as long as they have +income they should draft
03:46	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Someone figure out if they opped Colton before the hits
03:50	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): My faery still drafting
04:03	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Tms should op oh not ok and start hitting him while his Def is low
04:04	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): They can send 30k op right?
04:04	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Have the avians raze him first maybe to kill Def and to get rid of gs
04:10	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Colton and I both need mv
04:10	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): I have runes
04:11	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): I have wpa
04:12	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): They did not op Colton before wave.
04:13	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): I have enough for two casts now. Who needs it more, you or colt?
04:13	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): 1 sec
04:13	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Finding how long his ms is.
04:17	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We both at 7 hours. Try him first
04:20	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): How many runes for a cast Dan?
04:21	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): 2522 runes
04:21	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Failed the first. Try on him or you
04:22	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Try Colton
04:22	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I send you runes for 2 try on me
04:23	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Sweet drought and Ms off
04:23	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Nice. Try me now
04:30	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Stole runes and sent to you Dan
04:30	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Failed again.
04:33	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): I can try it in 15 mins
04:33	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): But I will need lots of runes
04:33	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Sent my runes to Dan already.
04:33	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): My mod wpa might actually be better than kotty.
04:34	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Should not matter. My mwpa is under .4
04:51	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Anyway our avian a should be kept out of ms, we have more than enough wpa to do it
04:51	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): It off me and Colton now. They rarely recast before it runs out so we probably safe for 7 hours.
05:21	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): ok to help with pump, we can just stock some gc on t/m and use them to prop ppl army home. then use solds to send for pumps. i think we would be able to pump more effectively that way
05:22	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we can keep some ppl drafting as well. just gotta make sure we have the gold
05:23	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): i mean there arent to many downsides to that in terms of pumping. we might only get 1-2k solds out of it at this point. but stealing theirs to feed us cant be bad
05:25	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): and i still think holding back some armies for now to keep our avian up would be good. we dont gain land but we could slow any possible chain attempts. keep a gen home to send out if they start heavy ns or hard chaining
05:27	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): leaving like 50k defense home or something
05:27	elixer	.listwar stealth
05:27	elixer	.list stealth
05:31	elixer	.list stealth rogue
05:31	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Yeah agree
05:32	elixer	.home war
05:32	elixer	.homewar
05:33	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Keep in mind there are probably massive amounts of spec credits at the bottom too. We need soldiers more than gc
05:35	elixer	.listwar poff
05:42	elixer	.sapp matts if you are goign to op someone right now, target the ones with def specs. i will work on getting our next t/m wave set up
06:07	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): they are funding a dragon now
06:10	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Our TMs can instant kill and it will just improve their Econ. But we need some of our rogues to start making real hits and sending out 35k off to trad halfers
06:13	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Btw, like I said after opening wave this war is theirs to lose now. Unless they duck up bad they will eventually get win. It will just take them a very long time to do it. Expect a 2 week war.
06:15	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): i think we can manage it. just have to micro manage a bit harder. which im going to set up a t/m wave on either samurai or torture. should we leave them or chain them after? i think we can kill almost all sendable offense and maybe get a few hits on them then
06:16	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): since they have sapph going first our t/m will be safe army out and we can slay when its home
06:16	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): set up another wave for when we kill it and try do it again
06:16	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): hope for good prop gains
06:16	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Yes. So we need to start having TMs take significant acres now.
06:17	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): to sustain through slaying dragon
06:17	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): And not sure prop what we should be doing. Gains to erratic. I think we can do mare damage just straight up NS.
06:17	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): till then we can hard draft solds and pump small provs with specs
06:17	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea
06:18	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): will test a few to see lol
06:18	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): then finish with ns
06:18	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we will have a good amount of stealth cause a few ppl are stocking
06:18	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): and it wouldnt be for another 12h atleast
06:19	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we should also attempt to synce undead hit time
06:19	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): sync
06:19	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Ok. Well I am out for a bit. Need to sleep sometime. Will be up for army return
06:19	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): BTW, I am getting REALLY fat
06:20	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): ok
06:30	elixer	.list solds
06:31	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): im going to bed as well. kotty when samurai sends out we should get a t/m wave set up for him.
06:32	elixer	.listwar tb
06:57	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Ok
12:09	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Yo I can hit real quick
12:10	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): 1x We WD
13:27	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Elixer can you 1x We WD ?
13:30	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Yea
13:32	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): 9k left
13:39	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Land grab/raze the small guys
14:06	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): There nw is growing
14:09	sn0wballz	.home
14:09	sn0wballz	.sapp utopiahell your army home?
14:09	sn0wballz	.sapp socialist your army home?
14:09	sn0wballz	.sapp friendly your army shome?
14:09	sn0wballz	.kdeconwar
14:09	sn0wballz	.kdecon
14:10	bot	SAPP PM 6581686283 [Friendly] (Yao Hui): Shld be. Sorry kotty still sitting me.
14:11	sn0wballz	.sapp kotty friendly army home?
14:24	bot	SAPP PM 6597908168 [kotty] (Y): Army out
14:48	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 hey do you have any runes? can you try to mv me plz?
14:49	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 how much more you need
14:49	sn0wballz	.sappadmin what's up with the prop wave or t/m wave? Trank kotty?
14:50	sn0wballz	.eta samurai
14:50	sn0wballz	.sotc sumarai
14:50	sn0wballz	.sotc samur
14:50	sn0wballz	.sappadmin samurai?
14:50	sn0wballz	.surveyc samurai
14:51	sn0wballz	.events
14:53	sn0wballz	.sapp fero you around? want to see if you can MV me
14:54	sn0wballz	.surveyc samurai
14:57	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 you think it'll be in the next like 2m? trying to get it before tick
14:58	sn0wballz	.whois dsqrd
14:58	sn0wballz	.sapp dsqrd runes sent
15:01	sn0wballz	.whois bob
15:02	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 sent, give it a try
15:02	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 hillary
15:03	bot	SAPP PM 19135689136 [bob1] (Scott): Nope :(
15:04	bot	SAPP PM 12313336611 [UtopiaHell] (Utopia Hell): Shouldnt be
15:04	bot	SAPP PM 12313336611 [UtopiaHell] (Utopia Hell): Let me check
15:05	sn0wballz	.eta utopiahell
15:05	sn0wballz	.sapp utopiahell cool just checking. bot was saying something about it thanks
15:05	elixer	.events
15:05	bot	SAPP PM 12313336611 [UtopiaHell] (Utopia Hell): Nope 3 hrs til back
15:05	elixer	.bush samurai
15:06	bot	SAPP PM 12313336611 [UtopiaHell] (Utopia Hell): Yea bot is lazy sometimes ill be oos and it wont catch it for some reason
15:06	sn0wballz	morning
15:06	elixer	morning
15:06	sn0wballz	I got ms i'm trying to get rid of :(
15:06	elixer	im trying my fucking hardest to slow down this chain
15:06	elixer	i have runes
15:07	elixer	tm
15:07	elixer	.tm
15:07	sn0wballz	.list mwpa
15:07	sn0wballz	bob is around
15:07	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 can you try again with more runes?
15:07	bot	SAPP PM 19135689136 [bob1] (Scott): Sure
15:07	bot	SAPP PM 19135689136 [bob1] (Scott): Need 2k
15:08	sn0wballz	can you send to him lix
15:08	sn0wballz	ty
15:08	elixer	np
15:08	sn0wballz	what was your def when they hit you
15:08	sn0wballz	.def lix
15:08	sn0wballz	.def
15:08	bot	SAPP PM 19135689136 [bob1] (Scott): Took out explosions and gp
15:08	sn0wballz	blah can you send him more lol
15:08	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Sorry snow I missed the tick. Trying now
15:09	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 okay hold on one sec
15:09	elixer	.sapp bob1 send me back whatever runes you dont use
15:09	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): One shot one kill. Ms is gone
15:10	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 okay it's off now, thanks send lix back the runes
15:10	elixer	.sapp bob1 dont mv anymore. dan got mv
15:10	sn0wballz	.sapp dsqrd thanks bro
15:10	sn0wballz	i need 2k runes for my gp/mp
15:10	sn0wballz	.sapp bob1 no need for anymore mv. just making sure this went through :D
15:12	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Yeah samurai
15:15	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I need ms too.
15:15	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Mv I mean. Need bad.
15:16	elixer	.def blackout
15:16	elixer	.sapp blackout how long left
15:17	bot	SAPP PM 15034496328 [_blackout_] (Severin): 8 hours
15:18	bot	SAPP PM 15034496328 [_blackout_] (Severin): Btw we have lost this war. There is no reason to continue to fight.
15:18	elixer	.sapp bob1 can you mv Nobody does it better.
15:19	bot	SAPP PM 6597488290 [socialist] (Yongxi): Hu
15:19	bot	SAPP PM 6597488290 [socialist] (Yongxi): Hi
15:19	bot	SAPP PM 6597488290 [socialist] (Yongxi): Soon
15:19	bot	SAPP PM 6597488290 [socialist] (Yongxi): Any target for me
15:19	elixer	.off social
15:21	bot	SAPP PM 19135689136 [bob1] (Scott): No runes lol
15:22	elixer	.sapp bob1 i just sent you 5k
15:22	bot	SAPP PM 19135689136 [bob1] (Scott): Oh Kk
15:22	elixer	.sapp bob1 you use them?
15:22	elixer	.chat hold up
15:23	bot	SAPP PM 19135689136 [bob1] (Scott): Nice! Got ms glut and Chas
15:23	sn0wballz	.sappadmin how have we lost?
15:24	bot	SAPP PM 19135689136 [bob1] (Scott): What should I do with rest of runes?
15:25	bot	SAPP PM 6597488290 [socialist] (Yongxi): Abt 1.2 hrs more
15:25	sn0wballz	.sappadmin Honestly we've had a failure in our leadership. I haven't been around a lot, kotty and elixer have done whatever they can but we haven't helped out enough IMO. the plans have been scattered
15:26	sn0wballz	.kdeconwar
15:26	sn0wballz	.kdecon
15:26	sn0wballz	idk i think we're still in it
15:26	sn0wballz	.listwar intel
15:27	sn0wballz	.listwar runes
15:28	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): i mean we can still handle it. war will just go on forever
15:30	sn0wballz	.sappadmin I think I agree with your points dan
15:31	elixer	.def diana
15:31	elixer	.off diana
15:32	elixer	.listwar pdef halfling
15:36	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we got this if we can control their attackers with op
15:36	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): they have hit just not for much
15:41	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea we should have targeted army home all war
15:42	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): We over used propaganda probably.
15:42	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Turning point was 36 hours ago. When our faes failed to start taking decent land their Econ fell behind.
15:42	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): And yes, we used prop WAY too much.
15:43	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): If we continue will take 48-72 hours for them to bring all avians down.
15:43	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): dont think they could have taken decent acres without prop
15:43	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): except they released
15:44	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): so even with it this round, they couldnt
15:44	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Nsing over prop could have put big attackers into better range
15:45	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): My point is we are done. No point in pretending we can win now. Just figuring out a smart way to WD
15:46	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): eh not super bad
15:57	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): We might also consider chaining provs with high peasant count like movealong
15:57	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): i was thinking about that
15:57	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Problem Dan is I suggest same thing day 2 of war and they never did it. 2 of our rogues are not contributing anything to the kd except proposing stupid strats that cost us the war.
15:58	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): lol
15:58	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): If we had not listened to those idiots opening wave it would have been a min time victory for us.
15:59	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we still could have had mintime with it
15:59	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): thats all i can say
15:59	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): dont want to make you rage
16:00	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): No. We threw 3 of our attackers away opening wave for no reason.
16:00	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We lost when we gave button armies out with no incoming.
16:01	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): I agree that that was a horrible idea. I also think the starvation tactic was a bust.

But now we need to figure out if we wd or fight on.
16:02	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): They are equally responsible
16:02	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): As we are
16:02	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): I agree
16:04	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): What now?
16:09	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We can fight on for 2-3 days but we will not win. It will take 2 weeks for them to double our NW.
16:09	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): No matter if we really do WD then so be it. Just got to learn from it but we have to deal with kingdom politics for a while.
16:12	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Ok then, probably time to lose half the kingdom
16:13	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): nah just 2
16:13	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Which 2 ?
16:13	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): 4
16:13	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): 3 maybe 4
16:14	sn0wballz	.sappadmin no one has been ignored
16:14	sn0wballz	.sappadmin stop being such a bitch. tired of people threatening to leave
16:14	sn0wballz	.sappadmin grow some balls and stand up and fix something
16:14	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): ^
16:15	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Well those of us that said massacre was a stupid idea were ignored.
16:15	sn0wballz	.sappadmin so you wanna leave? lol
16:15	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Those of us that said we needed to switch to NS days ago were ignored.
16:16	sn0wballz	.sappadmin I never really saw it tbh. Honestly I'm kind of confused as to who we've designated as the end all be all in terms of passing orders on to the masses.
16:16	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): we will just say i wanted to try it
16:16	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): it wasnt suppose to go exactly how it did
16:16	sn0wballz	.sappadmin it's just been suggestions of things to do, saying that sounds good but then none of us actually excuting it
16:16	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): but i will take that responsibility
16:17	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): And it has been difficult for me to decide what to execute because each side is proposing their pros and cons.
16:18	sn0wballz	.sappadmin exactly, kotty. because we have people on bothside threatening if we dont do what they want to do.
16:18	elixer	lol
16:18	elixer	i want out lol
16:18	sn0wballz	shush
16:18	elixer	get me out of here!
16:18	elixer	damn
16:19	sn0wballz	.sappadmin Blizz offers a lot. Fate does to but he has no idea how to properly communicate, i'll give you that. Blizz however has been around a ton in this war and regardless of what's he's suggested, he's really helped
16:19	elixer	what you think he would think if i said i quit as well
16:20	elixer	and actually fate know more than blizz imo
16:20	sn0wballz	yeah, but his attitude is shit
16:20	elixer	exactly
16:20	sn0wballz	almost as bad as severin
16:20	elixer	ya
16:20	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Helped what? His suggestions are why we lost. And he has not sent aid or made a decent hit.
16:21	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): We need to work better
16:21	sn0wballz	.sappadmin he's just been a voice to give direction.
16:21	elixer	i say let em leave
16:21	sn0wballz	same
16:21	elixer	atleast i wont try to talk them into staying
16:21	sn0wballz	it's too much stressed
16:21	sn0wballz	i told you about colton tho my nugga
16:21	elixer	any of them, blizz and fate included
16:21	sn0wballz	i didn't want him back
16:22	elixer	ofc i would like fate to help me out
16:22	sn0wballz	yeah me to
16:22	sn0wballz	help US out
16:22	elixer	and i think he would without blackout and colton here :/
16:22	elixer	yea
16:22	elixer	sad that its only those 2 that always had a problem with ppl
16:22	sn0wballz	right
16:23	elixer	will suck if they leave
16:23	sn0wballz	sup kotty
16:23	elixer	but at this point its w/e
16:24	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): loud af voice lol
16:25	kotty	hihi
16:26	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): to be fair my feelings towards anyone hasnt changed
16:26	kotty	best case scenario, we lose Blizz and Fate or we lose Blackout and Colton, worse case scenario, we lose them all !
16:26	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): So now what do we do to either win or wd in good shape.
16:26	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): not sure about wd
16:26	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): but im with kotty
16:26	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): see how ns wave goes and decide after
16:27	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): its 1.5h away or something
16:27	elixer	hmm
16:27	elixer	maybe he just doesnt want to lose his land
16:27	elixer	lol
16:27	elixer	blizz and fate would stay if we lost colton and blackout
16:27	elixer	atleast i think they would
16:29	kotty	yeah
16:29	kotty	lol
16:29	kotty	I don't know why but I get a tinge that blackout sometimes is a little too focused on his province
16:29	elixer	im not going to mention this though
16:29	elixer	me too
16:30	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Maybe even ask one to release troops?
16:32	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Not release troops. Make hits. TMs can hit leaving 55k def at home and be totally safe. They all need to do that. But at this point it still too late to turn around. They needed to start doing that 2-3 days ago.
16:34	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): 55k is to risky for a t/m
16:34	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Also our small guys need to focus morning star and get him to 50k then switch to dragging another one down.
16:34	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): they still have a lot that can break that
16:34	sn0wballz	shit i'll mention it haha
16:34	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): No, 55k is safe. They would have to suicide to break 55k and if they do we deep chain them.
16:34	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): yea and they could do that
16:35	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): would be much more worth it for them than it would be for us
16:35	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Fine 60k
16:36	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We have to take risks. If all our TMs leave 60k home then most they get is a few hits on 1
16:42	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): ok
16:42	elixer	.etalist faery
16:43	elixer	.def fate
16:43	elixer	.def blizz
16:43	elixer	.def kotty
16:43	elixer	.def cyrus
16:43	elixer	.def matts
16:43	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): ive told them
16:52	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Thing is, even if I send all my off and leave 60k def home
16:53	sn0wballz	.whois trank
16:53	sn0wballz	.pdef 60k trank
16:54	sn0wballz	.sappadmin you can 3x heresey I believe. atleast 2x. start anywhere. should give you 10a each
16:57	sn0wballz	.sotc cookie
16:57	sn0wballz	.def Heresy Hershey
16:58	sn0wballz	.def heresy
16:58	sn0wballz	.sotc heres
16:59	sn0wballz	.poff 13k matts
17:01	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Trank some can though. Fate can send 38k and leave 60k home. So people that can need to.
17:04	trankintor	.sappadmin that I can, I have been sending out on the landdef provs for the last 2 days, but you only get 3-5 acres per hit from that
17:05	sn0wballz	you'll get 10ish on heresy
17:05	trankintor	.events
17:05	trankintor	.eta
17:06	trankintor	.pdef 60k
17:06	trankintor	got rid of plauge finaly...
17:07	elixer	lol
17:07	trankintor	so, I have 450 solds to send
17:07	trankintor	should I fill the aid req or keep?
17:14	elixer	you can use em
17:15	trankintor	time to train more off then I guess :P
17:21	sn0wballz	.sotc colton
17:21	sn0wballz	.sapp colton what's up with those hits
17:22	bot	SAPP PM 15037521834 [Colton] (Colton/Psychodelic): The Bonnington Empire (7:13) captured 146 acres of land from oh NOT ok (4:1
17:23	sn0wballz	.sapp colton yeah i'm retarded sorry lol.
17:23	sn0wballz	.def colton
17:23	sn0wballz	.sotc colton
17:24	sn0wballz	but yeah if we keep NSing them we can take this
17:24	sn0wballz	it's going to be hard for them to take us
17:25	kotty	prob is I don't know how effective it is to NS their elites
17:25	kotty	but definintely we can drop their off with NS
17:25	sn0wballz	it'll hurt regardless i think
17:25	sn0wballz	.list stealth faery
17:25	sn0wballz	7 rogues
17:26	sn0wballz	doing ns at once
17:26	sn0wballz	nothing good for them from that
17:26	trankintor	well
17:27	trankintor	hard to say what stealth we all have :P
17:27	trankintor	some old intel
17:27	sn0wballz	yah but we'll save
17:28	sn0wballz	as much as we can
17:28	sn0wballz	should be fine
17:48	kotty	they are so active
17:49	kotty	samurai already camping there for troops to come back
17:49	sn0wballz	we'll have to be quick
17:51	kotty	yea
17:53	elixer	even if he sends out again
17:53	elixer	we ns
17:53	kotty	ns gains are best if they are home
17:53	kotty	but yeah he will be the one even if he sends out lol
17:53	elixer	yes but we still kill his defense
18:09	kotty	I think our NS run was great
18:09	sn0wballz	yup
18:10	trankintor	and if we would have had all 7 it would have been even better
18:10	kotty	we only had 4 doing it and his NW dropped 25k
18:10	sn0wballz	who else was missing
18:11	kotty	Rican :)
18:11	kotty	I assume Matts was doing it through his phone
18:12	elixer	yea
18:16	kotty	trank when can you next log in ?
18:16	trankintor	how so?
18:16	trankintor	atleast another 6h
18:16	trankintor	then I will probably sleep for 6h more
18:17	trankintor	or I can set alarm if needed
18:17	kotty	movealong has troops home in 7.5h timne
18:17	kotty	we can NS him next
18:17	sn0wballz	set it
18:18	sn0wballz	sounds good to me
18:18	sn0wballz	.poff 90k the torture
18:18	kotty	.addevent 7.2hrs NS MoveAlongNothingToSeeHere
18:18	sn0wballz	Nameless for now (4:1) needs the FB IMO
18:19	kotty	I can do that with some runes >
18:20	trankintor	I will do that after we have done the NS
18:20	trankintor	getting 3.2k per tick now
18:30	sn0wballz	what should blizz do now
18:31	kotty	if blizz don't have high stealth probably can just wait and be here for next NS wave
18:32	kotty	.events
18:33	sn0wballz	if he can NS sam some more Fate can make a good hit
18:34	elixer	ok
18:34	sn0wballz	.events
18:35	kotty	oh you mean a hit on Samurai ?
18:35	kotty	.delevent 715
18:35	sn0wballz	yes
18:35	kotty	omg sounds good
18:36	kotty	buit he has 40k def
18:36	sn0wballz	.poff 40k Fate
18:36	kotty	OO really
18:36	sn0wballz	:)
18:36	sn0wballz	yah
18:36	kotty	.poff 40000
18:36	kotty	lol
18:36	sn0wballz	.poff 40k kotty
18:36	sn0wballz	.pdef 65k kotty
18:36	sn0wballz	.eta kotty
18:36	kotty	hehe
18:37	kotty	.etalist
18:38	sn0wballz	you'll get about 10a on heresy
18:38	kotty	ok i got to go, Snow and Elixer take over for the next 8 hours or so ?
18:38	sn0wballz	think that's your best
18:38	elixer	who are we trying to bring down
18:38	kotty	I can't hit him
18:38	kotty	ip block
18:39	kotty	we should try to pull one more halfing to bottom chain
18:39	kotty	morning is already down, just a few more hits on him
18:39	elixer	ok if none have been chosen ill take a look
18:42	kotty	Elixer I think if blizz and fate is here, Rican and they can run another NS wave
18:42	kotty	ok I got to go
18:42	kotty	ttyl !
18:42	kotty	.chat Elixer and Snow will help you Rican, ttyl !
18:44	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We need to steal runes more. How is it their monarch got enough runes to 5x LL me?
18:45	elixer	.sotc samurai
18:48	elixer	.listwar runes
19:19	elixer	.chat fero ready to hit
19:52	elixer	.sapp fero your army is home hit threads 1x and rest on outperu. if you cant break him 3x then max the last gen
19:55	bot	SAPP PM 46736274163 [Fero] (Fero): Could only 1x out
19:57	elixer	.sapp fero ah ok
19:58	elixer	.sapp fero sneaky has no defense i believe
19:58	bot	SAPP PM 46736274163 [Fero] (Fero): Hit gummy Jimmy once also
19:59	bot	SAPP PM 46736274163 [Fero] (Fero): Had to Add hours so nice gains
20:24	elixer	.sapp cesar hit threads of thism 1x
21:13	sn0wballz	.sappadmin well, I just got smacked by drump and he still has 75k def left at home lol
21:21	sn0wballz	.sappadmin conquests
21:21	sn0wballz	.sappadmin btw I am sitting blizz's account.
21:23	sn0wballz	.sappadmin he had sci on active FYI
21:23	elixer	.off
21:29	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Well we did know that he does try to be number one in stats.
21:30	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Fuck him the shithead.
21:31	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I got cong too and not even sure how he broke me with conq...
21:31	elixer	can hit thread of thism
21:32	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): We might want to consider chaining azazel
21:33	elixer	.needsom
21:33	elixer	.def thism
21:34	elixer	.chat need som on thism
21:34	elixer	.sappadmin he has 30k defense
21:36	elixer	.def thism
21:36	elixer	.chat thanks
21:39	elixer	.sappadmin i can continue threads or start azazel
21:40	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Btw we need to continue to NS halfers but we could destroy elf defense at any time with NS wave since they are all spec def. we could NS 40k def easy in 1 wave.
21:41	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): And see how good it will be with all 7 at the same time
21:43	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): For sure. We need to focus on stackers right now.
21:43	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): And again, fuck blizz
21:44	elixer	.def threads
21:44	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): We have 3 above 120k nw
21:46	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Well that what I said earlier. We can drag this for weeks if we want but only way we will get surrender is if some of their provs go afk or they get bored.
21:56	elixer	.etalist
22:01	elixer	.sapp dan you recall what your reg attack time is?
22:02	elixer	.sapp tim you recall what your reg attack times are
22:03	bot	SAPP PM 17036788085 [tim] (Tim): Around 11 hours
22:07	elixer	.timein 18
22:10	sn0wballz	.sappadmin well if the majority in here think we oughtta surrender then we probably should at least think about it
22:10	elixer	.time
22:11	elixer	.addevent mar8yr2
22:11	elixer	.addevent mar8yr2 test
22:11	sn0wballz	btw, spooky was mad as fuck earlier
22:11	sn0wballz	kind of an asshole
22:11	elixer	yea i saw that
22:11	elixer	lol
22:11	sn0wballz	I dont even think I did anything this time
22:12	elixer	.events
22:12	sn0wballz	i mean I just told him I dont see how we could aid him
22:12	sn0wballz	and blizz I was trying to level with
22:12	elixer	.addevent feb20yr2 test2
22:12	elixer	.events
22:12	elixer	yea
22:12	elixer	its all a bunch of shit lol
22:12	elixer	ok
22:12	elixer	im trying to get attack times lined with that
22:13	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Sure we could win but not without big mistakes by them.
22:13	elixer	.delevent 717
22:13	elixer	.timein 16.8
22:13	elixer	can i tell him to leave after war?
22:13	elixer	lol
22:13	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): What sucks is this war should have been an easy min time win. They are active but their kd strat is terrible.
22:15	elixer	.addevent feb20yr2 Get as close to this date as possible with your armies.
22:15	elixer	.deflevent 718
22:15	elixer	.list def avian
22:16	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Probably should have tried this earlier.
22:19	elixer	.sappadmin i added an event. we need to line armies with it and keep them synced
22:20	sn0wballz	.events
22:20	elixer	.delevent 718
22:20	sn0wballz	.eta
22:20	sn0wballz	.timein 17
22:20	elixer	that works for you then
22:21	elixer	i dont want to do 12h waves
22:21	elixer	but it might be easier on us
22:21	elixer	and we can actually do some damage with hits
22:37	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): I actually think we would have been better off if they had sent another dragon. The tms would have so many more peasants now.
23:55	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Need mv ASAP
23:56	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): And honestly I think we should surrender now but whatever.
00:00	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We could surrender at tick.
00:04	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Oh course. But better to get out while avians are big and can supply gc then get land drop
00:04	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Doing a massive wave will not get many acres for small guys anyway.
00:05	sn0wballz	.events
00:05	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We can pump and wave these guys later in age. Even with 10% size advantage of we play smart we can take them then.
00:06	sn0wballz	.sappadmin Yah I agree with WD
00:06	sn0wballz	.mintime
00:06	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We fucked it up early and with how we used our rogues.
00:06	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Btw, first order of business is bliz out of the kd.
00:07	sn0wballz	.sappadmin I dont know about that. I have his prov for five days which really fuckin sucks
00:08	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): He not coming back. The fucker is the reason we last this war. And on top of that he ran active sci instead of aiding.
00:08	sn0wballz	.sappadmin elixer it's up to you on the wd. i'm ok with whatever. also maybe we should wait for kotty
00:09	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Problem is this perfect wd time. We can now and no small armies coming back for hours.
00:09	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): When will kotty wake?
00:10	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Normally now-2h from now
00:10	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): They got lucky with us
00:11	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): We can wd right now
00:21	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Should make a decision soon
00:24	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Yea I msged Kotty but no reply yet
00:27	bot	SAPP (Sn0wballz / sn0wballz): He is sleeping
00:28	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Yea he should be up before long though
00:28	bot	SAPP (Sn0wballz / sn0wballz): Can you message Blizz and find out if he really set me for five days
00:28	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Lol
00:29	bot	SAPP (Sn0wballz / sn0wballz): He blocked me
00:29	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Yea
01:11	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): And we just taking more hits for no reason.
01:21	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): You guys decide
01:22	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): But our NS run starting in like 5 mins
01:23	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): So NS to get honor then wd
01:43	elixer	.sotc move
01:45	bot	SAPP (Sn0wballz / sn0wballz): What did we decide? My troops home
01:47	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): And I want to burn my runes first too
01:48	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Burn your runes and WD since too many mistakes have been made already
01:48	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Better to just rebuild and come back again
01:49	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Agreed. Should do soon.
01:49	bot	SAPP (Sn0wballz / sn0wballz): Yah. And keep the peace plz
01:50	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Done...
01:50	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I am still really fucking pissed we listened to a jackass who had his sci on and lost because of it.
01:50	elixer	.sotc move
01:50	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): Want to WD now or after tick ?
01:50	bot	SAPP (Sn0wballz / sn0wballz): Yeah well it happened
01:50	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Now...
01:51	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Want to release and go back to bed...
01:51	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Yes now.
01:51	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Trank you have mana to mv me if I send runes?
01:51	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Yes
01:52	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Got elites home and ms.
01:52	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): What is our acre goal going to be when we drop avians?
01:53	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): Same as t/m or less
01:53	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We could have recovered from other mistakes. Massacre fuck up we could not come back from.
01:53	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Fuck
01:56	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): We going to surrender?
01:57	kotty	time to WD
02:01	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Omfg only got greed...
02:02	kotty	.sappadmin it has ended
02:04	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I send a few more trank.
02:05	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Ok
02:05	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Missing 2k
02:05	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Ok np
02:05	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): I can eat it.
02:06	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Want it back?
02:06	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Na. I good.
02:06	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Ok
02:06	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): Fuck, I failed bb...
02:08	bot	SAPP (Y / kotty): We should get all small attackers to be at least 500 acre
02:12	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): What should us big avian expect to drop to? 1200?
02:22	kotty	.sappadmin 1200-1400 probably, the small guys need lots of soldiers, at least 2-3k each to explore a little and also 300-400k gcs
02:31	kotty	So what is going to happen to Blizz or fate ?
02:31	kotty	or Blackout or Colton ?
02:31	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): Working on it already. Should be able to help a lot with that.
02:32	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): 900-1k for big avian
02:33	bot	SAPP (Severin / _blackout_): You realize that will take days of hits to drop us that far because gb prot. And we will lose honor down to pezzie if we go for 1k
02:34	kotty	.sappadmin I would say 1-1.2k at least if not all our biggies are faeries which makes us looks scary
02:35	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): I bet you I can get that land lost in 5h
02:36	kotty	.sappadmin for sure they will lose the land by itself lol
02:37	kotty	.sappadmin I suggest all our undeads just leave whatever elites they have and train up just off and def specs and we go for an easy war
02:44	kotty	.orders
02:44	kotty	.addorder War ended, provinces below 500 acres will need to explore to get to 500 at least. Post what you need and we will help you get there.
04:37	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): ok
04:38	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): im thinking we need to grow up a few more provs at the bottom. get a better spread going. or find an easy war
05:48	bot	SAPP (Dan / dsqrd): Also, how many are really leaving?
06:08	bot	SAPP (elixer / elixer): idk
06:11	elixer	.list wpa
06:20	elixer	not a build but i posted what they should aim for.
06:20	elixer	.orders new
07:45	elixer	.aidlist
08:02	bot	SAPP (Trankintor / Trankintor): 3 i think