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  1. 2017-02-20 11:44:30 deerhunter is there a dedicated music genre for midi metal like the doom soundtrack
  2. 2017-02-20 11:44:58 @UrbanInvader nerd
  3. 2017-02-20 11:47:06 beamform .yt megadeth hangar 18 lyrics
  4. 2017-02-20 11:47:07 Internets :: YouTube MEGADETH - Hangar 18 (lyrics) :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7eLdrpKmR4 (05:16) :: Views 41,352 :: Rating [+] 301 likes [-] 4 dislikes ::
  5. 2017-02-20 11:47:08 Lerxst Title: MEGADETH - Hangar 18 (lyrics), Views: 41352, Rating: 99.0%
  6. 2017-02-20 11:47:12 beamform ^
  7. 2017-02-20 11:49:52 deerhunter no
  8. 2017-02-20 11:50:20 deerhunter i mean the entire song or most of it is programmed with midi and samples
  9. 2017-02-20 11:51:00 Theophrastus >midi metal
  10. 2017-02-20 11:51:01 Theophrastus no
  11. 2017-02-20 11:51:01 @UrbanInvader so something like chiptune metal?
  12. 2017-02-20 11:51:05 Theophrastus >chiptune
  13. 2017-02-20 11:51:06 Theophrastus urb
  14. 2017-02-20 11:51:06 Theophrastus how
  15. 2017-02-20 11:51:16 Theophrastus he means midis like
  16. 2017-02-20 11:51:20 Theophrastus .yt At Hell's Gate
  17. 2017-02-20 11:51:21 Internets :: YouTube DOOM (2016) OST - At DOOM's Gate :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j05hzwQf8pA (02:39) :: Views 733,861 :: Rating [+] 5,569 likes [-] 186 dislikes ::
  18. 2017-02-20 11:51:22 Lerxst Title: DOOM (2016) OST - At DOOM's Gate, Views: 733861, Rating: 97.0%
  19. 2017-02-20 11:51:23 Theophrastus fucking
  20. 2017-02-20 11:51:29 Theophrastus .yt At Hell's Gate 95 DOS
  21. 2017-02-20 11:51:30 Internets :: YouTube Doom - E1M1 - "At Hell's Gate" (Doom 95 Version) :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gBZOPQZ0Is (01:37) :: Views 53,295 :: Rating [+] 298 likes [-] 6 dislikes ::
  22. 2017-02-20 11:51:30 Lerxst Title: Doom - E1M1 - "At Hell's Gate" (Doom 95 Version), Views: 53295, Rating: 98.0%
  23. 2017-02-20 11:52:43 deerhunter oneohtrix did it really well https://a.pomf.cat/muoqdn.mp3
  24. 2017-02-20 11:53:14 deerhunter it's ridiculous but really fun
  25. 2017-02-20 11:53:17 Theophrastus >thinking this sounds good
  26. 2017-02-20 11:53:41 Theophrastus wew lad you have some shit taste boy
  27. 2017-02-20 11:53:47 deerhunter bad taste
  28. 2017-02-20 11:54:00 Theophrastus it sounds like a bunch of fucking noise
  29. 2017-02-20 11:54:11 Theophrastus actually isn't this made from
  30. 2017-02-20 11:54:12 Theophrastus fucking
  31. 2017-02-20 11:54:14 Theophrastus doom sounds
  32. 2017-02-20 11:54:19 Theophrastus no wonder it sounds fucking awful
  33. 2017-02-20 11:54:52 PrincessCocks Man I'm having a hard time getting sleepy
  34. 2017-02-20 11:54:57 Theophrastus just b urself
  35. 2017-02-20 11:54:59 PrincessCocks It's like 5am but I'm wide awake
  36. 2017-02-20 11:55:08 PrincessCocks Stupid fucking nightmares
  37. 2017-02-20 11:55:58 deerhunter like hyper grunge
  38. 2017-02-20 11:56:00 deerhunter https://a.pomf.cat/ymqamt.mp3
  39. 2017-02-20 11:56:02 Theophrastus >hyper grunge
  40. 2017-02-20 11:56:14 Theophrastus >people didn't understand what made grunge so good
  41. 2017-02-20 11:56:25 deerhunter theo im sorry that you are afraid of 'noisey' music
  42. 2017-02-20 11:56:26 Theophrastus this sounds better
  43. 2017-02-20 11:56:39 Theophrastus music actually has to have some substance to be good
  44. 2017-02-20 11:56:56 Theophrastus it cant just be a bunch of random fucking noise and you slap a -core or some arbitrary genre on it
  45. 2017-02-20 11:57:00 deerhunter >i tip my fedora
  46. 2017-02-20 11:57:06 Theophrastus >im a retard with bad taste in music
  47. 2017-02-20 11:57:20 Theophrastus >how dare you don't like things i like
  48. 2017-02-20 11:57:22 deerhunter >im born in le wrong generation xDDD this is just noise xDDDD
  49. 2017-02-20 11:57:33 deerhunter im not mad that you don't like it. you're just really willfully ignorant
  50. 2017-02-20 11:57:34 Theophrastus nice strawman idiot, not what i'm getting at at all
  51. 2017-02-20 11:57:46 Theophrastus i just mean the first sounded like absolute horseshit
  52. 2017-02-20 11:57:49 Theophrastus this one is better
  53. 2017-02-20 11:58:05 Theophrastus it'd be good for a space sci-fi game soundtrack
  54. 2017-02-20 11:58:13 @UrbanInvader now playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt2qgY31ziE
  55. 2017-02-20 11:58:14 Lerxst Title: Magic Sword - Sword Of Truth, Views: 215461, Rating: 99.0%
  56. 2017-02-20 11:58:30 deerhunter but it's the exact same thing.
  57. 2017-02-20 11:58:42 Theophrastus some songs can sound better than others
  58. 2017-02-20 11:58:55 Theophrastus its not rocket science buddy
  59. 2017-02-20 11:59:13 @UrbanInvader music theory can be quite difficult tho
  60. 2017-02-20 11:59:20 Theophrastus are you on a synthwave thing urb
  61. 2017-02-20 11:59:55 @UrbanInvader not really, I was listening to bonobo and tycho earlier
  62. 2017-02-20 12:00:11 Theophrastus i was listening to Caravan Palace I think?
  63. 2017-02-20 12:00:12 Theophrastus at work
  64. 2017-02-20 12:00:16 Theophrastus .yt caravan palace
  65. 2017-02-20 12:00:16 Internets :: YouTube Caravan Palace - Lone Digger :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4 (02:51) :: Views 47,374,482 :: Rating [+] 547,265 likes [-] 18,476 dislikes ::
  66. 2017-02-20 12:00:17 @UrbanInvader nice
  67. 2017-02-20 12:00:17 Lerxst Title: Caravan Palace - Lone Digger, Views: 47374482, Rating: 97.0%
  68. 2017-02-20 12:00:20 Theophrastus yeah
  69. 2017-02-20 12:00:29 deerhunter jesus christ
  70. 2017-02-20 12:00:32 Theophrastus playing some DCSS and listening to them
  71. 2017-02-20 12:00:37 @UrbanInvader I remember seeing them live a few years ago
  72. 2017-02-20 12:00:40 @UrbanInvader good shit
  73. 2017-02-20 12:00:43 Theophrastus are they alright live
  74. 2017-02-20 12:00:46 @UrbanInvader yeh
  75. 2017-02-20 12:01:02 @UrbanInvader they tend to improv a lot to step up some of their slower songs
  76. 2017-02-20 12:01:07 Theophrastus that's nice
  77. 2017-02-20 12:01:21 Theophrastus improv is good for live shows and it's how it should be done
  78. 2017-02-20 12:01:22 foxxy wee
  79. 2017-02-20 12:01:24 foxxy ww
  80. 2017-02-20 12:01:25 Theophrastus get out fox
  81. 2017-02-20 12:01:27 foxxy wew
  82. 2017-02-20 12:01:30 foxxy nah
  83. 2017-02-20 12:01:36 @UrbanInvader yeh, you actally get something from seeing them live, not just a 1/1 of their album releases
  84. 2017-02-20 12:01:53 Theophrastus very few bands that do that, especially these days
  85. 2017-02-20 12:02:01 Theophrastus outside of electronic at least
  86. 2017-02-20 12:02:08 Theophrastus electronic is easy to ad lib
  87. 2017-02-20 12:02:29 @UrbanInvader carpenter brut did it too, switch up a few synths and add some funk in the guitar pieces
  88. 2017-02-20 12:02:35 @UrbanInvader made it feel unique
  89. 2017-02-20 12:03:05 Theophrastus isn't carpenter brut doing all the music for the new Samurai Jack
  90. 2017-02-20 12:03:32 @UrbanInvader if they are, I need to watch it
  91. 2017-02-20 12:03:45 foxxy oneptrix point never bored me
  92. 2017-02-20 12:03:59 foxxy i tried liking it
  93. 2017-02-20 12:04:17 deerhunter bad taste
  94. 2017-02-20 12:04:46 Theophrastus so does everyone who doesn't like what you like have bad taste
  95. 2017-02-20 12:05:22 deerhunter no
  96. 2017-02-20 12:05:34 deerhunter people who think music is 'boring' have bad taste
  97. 2017-02-20 12:05:52 deerhunter unless it's literally pop music. that i understand
  98. 2017-02-20 12:06:00 @UrbanInvader some music is just bad though
  99. 2017-02-20 12:06:01 Theophrastus t. /mu/
  100. 2017-02-20 12:06:22 Theophrastus you want boring music
  101. 2017-02-20 12:06:27 Theophrastus look at the Beastie Boys
  102. 2017-02-20 12:06:28 Theophrastus or AC/DC
  103. 2017-02-20 12:06:34 Theophrastus pretty much the same exact song each time
  104. 2017-02-20 12:06:34 @UrbanInvader oh god don't
  105. 2017-02-20 12:06:42 Theophrastus ONE
  106. 2017-02-20 12:06:42 Theophrastus TWO
  107. 2017-02-20 12:06:43 Theophrastus THREE
  108. 2017-02-20 12:06:43 deerhunter thats exactly what i mean theo
  109. 2017-02-20 12:06:44 Theophrastus FOU
  110. 2017-02-20 12:06:47 @UrbanInvader my dad used to play AC/DC on fucking loop
  111. 2017-02-20 12:06:51 Theophrastus WHO'S THIS WHITE BOY KNOCKING AT MY DOOR?
  112. 2017-02-20 12:06:56 Theophrastus .yt milk span
  113. 2017-02-20 12:06:57 Internets :: YouTube Breast Milk Storage Guidelines | CloudMom :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghssaPXRTNc (04:42) :: Views 193,146 :: Rating [+] 1,220 likes [-] 61 dislikes ::
  114. 2017-02-20 12:06:58 Lerxst Title: Breast Milk Storage Guidelines | CloudMom, Views: 193146, Rating: 95.0%
  115. 2017-02-20 12:06:59 Theophrastus fug
  116. 2017-02-20 12:07:01 Theophrastus .yt milk spam
  117. 2017-02-20 12:07:01 Internets :: YouTube Milk - Spam (featuring Ad Rock of Beastie Boys) :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBGdA4LEGCI (03:30) :: Views 10,451 :: Rating [+] 136 likes [-] 2 dislikes ::
  118. 2017-02-20 12:07:02 Lerxst Title: Milk - Spam (featuring Ad Rock of Beastie Boys), Views: 10451, Rating: 99.0%
  119. 2017-02-20 12:07:39 Theophrastus it's boring music style wise
  120. 2017-02-20 12:07:53 << icks (~icks@no.reason.at.all) has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  121. 2017-02-20 12:07:55 Theophrastus because it's repetitive and you know what to expect
  122. 2017-02-20 12:07:56 deerhunter yeah. so is almost all alternative/grunge bs
  123. 2017-02-20 12:08:04 Theophrastus not really
  124. 2017-02-20 12:08:16 deerhunter yeah. its pop music
  125. 2017-02-20 12:08:29 Theophrastus .yt stone temple pilots crackerman
  126. 2017-02-20 12:08:29 Internets :: YouTube Stone Temple Pilots - Crackerman :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHfi4kGPFvc (03:19) :: Views 750,274 :: Rating [+] 2,616 likes [-] 78 dislikes ::
  127. 2017-02-20 12:08:30 Lerxst Title: Stone Temple Pilots - Crackerman, Views: 750274, Rating: 97.0%
  128. 2017-02-20 12:08:37 Theophrastus .yt pearl jam yellow bedletter
  129. 2017-02-20 12:08:37 Internets :: YouTube Pearl Jam - Yellow Ledbetter :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs8y3kneqrs (05:19) :: Views 39,490,500 :: Rating [+] 121,849 likes [-] 3,752 dislikes ::
  130. 2017-02-20 12:08:38 Lerxst Title: Pearl Jam - Yellow Ledbetter, Views: 39490500, Rating: 97.0%
  131. 2017-02-20 12:08:47 Theophrastus one is alternative, one is grunge
  132. 2017-02-20 12:09:04 Theophrastus neither are exactly boring
  133. 2017-02-20 12:09:12 deerhunter yeah, both sounded exactly how i expected before even clicking the link
  134. 2017-02-20 12:09:34 Theophrastus i'm sure
  135. 2017-02-20 12:09:38 Theophrastus because you're this great pariah of music
  136. 2017-02-20 12:09:48 deerhunter no im not really
  137. 2017-02-20 12:10:52 Theophrastus so then calling music boring means you have bad taste
  138. 2017-02-20 12:10:57 Theophrastus even if it's pop
  139. 2017-02-20 12:11:05 Theophrastus because there are some good pop tracks every once in a while
  140. 2017-02-20 12:11:07 deerhunter no, pop is the exception
  141. 2017-02-20 12:11:14 Theophrastus .yt starboy
  142. 2017-02-20 12:11:15 Internets :: YouTube The Weeknd - Starboy (official) ft. Daft Punk :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34Na4j8AVgA (04:34) :: Views 672,962,736 :: Rating [+] 3,290,419 likes [-] 216,244 dislikes ::
  143. 2017-02-20 12:11:16 Lerxst Title: The Weeknd - Starboy (official) ft. Daft Punk, Views: 672962736, Rating: 94.0%
  144. 2017-02-20 12:11:39 deerhunter yeah i mean its not true for all cases
  145. 2017-02-20 12:11:52 Theophrastus then pop can't be an exception
  146. 2017-02-20 12:12:01 deerhunter no one can resist a good 70s pop ballad
  147. 2017-02-20 12:12:28 deerhunter but as far as quality goes, its almost like eating candy
  148. 2017-02-20 12:12:31 beamform Theophrastus, why are you posting satanist videos?
  149. 2017-02-20 12:12:45 Theophrastus which is satanist
  150. 2017-02-20 12:13:21 >> Imaginos (~Theophras@3F9B1924:650B578D:3264ADF0:IP) has joined #/x/philes
  151. 2017-02-20 12:13:21 << Imaginos (~Theophras@3F9B1924:650B578D:3264ADF0:IP) has quit (Write error: connection closed)
  152. 2017-02-20 12:13:22 %IMAS hello imaginos
  153. 2017-02-20 12:13:40 Theophrastus i also never knew The Weeknd was black
  154. 2017-02-20 12:13:44 deerhunter yeah i dont mean to come across as pretentious, i just think going down the rabbit hole of music and following what is challenging is far more rewarding
  155. 2017-02-20 12:14:22 Theophrastus nothing down the rabbithole of what you posted because it's essentially just noise
  156. 2017-02-20 12:14:34 Theophrastus second one is like decent, it'd work good in a game
  157. 2017-02-20 12:14:34 deerhunter proving my point
  158. 2017-02-20 12:14:43 Theophrastus ok
  159. 2017-02-20 12:14:44 Theophrastus listen
  160. 2017-02-20 12:14:49 Theophrastus it's actually just fucking noise
  161. 2017-02-20 12:15:06 Theophrastus and that's okay
  162. 2017-02-20 12:15:10 Theophrastus if that's what you want to listen to
  163. 2017-02-20 12:15:29 Theophrastus making it louder and adding more noise doesn't make it better
  164. 2017-02-20 12:15:36 deerhunter instead of saying "this is just noise" you should try to understand why people appreciate it as music. even if it's literally 5 people that like it. it's more rewarding to try to get behind their angle and see why they appreciate it
  165. 2017-02-20 12:15:44 @UrbanInvader chill out kids, music taste is subjective, no one will like exactly the same things, artists can produce both good and bad songs, perception and taste are unique
  166. 2017-02-20 12:16:15 Theophrastus so why do you like scraping noise
  167. 2017-02-20 12:16:36 @UrbanInvader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycqsSkp2WI8
  168. 2017-02-20 12:16:37 Lerxst Title: Sidewalks and Skeletons - THIS IS YOUR ESCAPE, Views: 67603, Rating: 99.0%
  169. 2017-02-20 12:16:40 deerhunter people ACTUALLY enjoy listening to noisey music. just because you dont understand why and want to believe they only 'like' it because it's obscure, it's simply not true
  170. 2017-02-20 12:17:07 Theophrastus so why do you like it
  171. 2017-02-20 12:17:15 deerhunter noisey music has everything to do with aggression, and blowing steam
  172. 2017-02-20 12:17:22 << badhobbit (~Jdoe@Rizon-574EC00C.rtr.netadv.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  173. 2017-02-20 12:17:23 deerhunter its stress reliving essentially
  174. 2017-02-20 12:17:34 Theophrastus so what's the difference between noise and heavy metal or death metal or things like that
  175. 2017-02-20 12:17:39 deerhunter its like the musical equivalent of smashing windows
  176. 2017-02-20 12:17:47 Theophrastus i thought that was thrash
  177. 2017-02-20 12:18:01 Theophrastus and punk
  178. 2017-02-20 12:18:02 deerhunter well. heavy metal is 'heavy' sure but it's still very harmonic
  179. 2017-02-20 12:18:13 Theophrastus you can have aggressive harmonic music
  180. 2017-02-20 12:18:19 deerhunter yeah i agree
  181. 2017-02-20 12:18:31 deerhunter but disharmonious sounds achieve the feeling of aggression way more effectively
  182. 2017-02-20 12:19:44 Theophrastus subjective
  183. 2017-02-20 12:19:47 deerhunter it's like the difference between singing really loud, and yelling
  184. 2017-02-20 12:20:00 Theophrastus like how people think screaming sounds good in every single song
  185. 2017-02-20 12:20:05 deerhunter loud singing can be powerful, sure, like whitney houston singing the star spangled banner or w/e
  186. 2017-02-20 12:20:32 deerhunter but yelling can portray the feeling of agony and suffering arguabley even more effectively
  187. 2017-02-20 12:20:44 Theophrastus now if you're getting into feelings of agony and suffering
  188. 2017-02-20 12:20:50 Theophrastus you're going the complete wrong way
  189. 2017-02-20 12:20:56 Theophrastus prog rock does that better than anyone
  190. 2017-02-20 12:21:03 Theophrastus .yt subdivisions rush
  191. 2017-02-20 12:21:04 Internets :: YouTube Rush - Subdivisions :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYdQB0mkEU (05:33) :: Views 3,629,048 :: Rating [+] 17,948 likes [-] 488 dislikes ::
  192. 2017-02-20 12:21:05 Lerxst Title: Rush - Subdivisions, Views: 3629048, Rating: 97.0%
  193. 2017-02-20 12:21:25 Theophrastus ^ essentially captures the restlessness of being a teenager and the angst that goes with it
  194. 2017-02-20 12:21:38 deerhunter ok i totally understand
  195. 2017-02-20 12:22:13 deerhunter im just trying to find a way to explain it
  196. 2017-02-20 12:22:18 << PrincessCocks (~meh@D88970F4:BAED7ACE:C98A60CC:IP) has quit (Quit: Leaving)
  197. 2017-02-20 12:22:37 Theophrastus is it because you're depressed and edgy
  198. 2017-02-20 12:22:44 Theophrastus because honestly that's all i'm getting here
  199. 2017-02-20 12:23:06 deerhunter see thats what i mean. you're dismissing it on the basis of it being bravado
  200. 2017-02-20 12:23:07 Theophrastus it's loud noise that an outsider with depression and an edgy personality can listen to and enjoy
  201. 2017-02-20 12:23:26 deerhunter it's all about empathizing with the music
  202. 2017-02-20 12:24:06 Theophrastus >people thought 90s europop was defining
  203. 2017-02-20 12:24:16 Theophrastus how
  204. 2017-02-20 12:24:17 deerhunter have you never felt completely trapped and depressed as a teen? sure it's all in your head, and you can make fun of it now that you know that
  205. 2017-02-20 12:24:37 Theophrastus yes but i didn't listen to edgy noise
  206. 2017-02-20 12:24:43 Theophrastus i listened to the above
  207. 2017-02-20 12:24:53 Theophrastus and a lot of Blue Öyster Cult
  208. 2017-02-20 12:25:03 deerhunter ok. but what if you feel more isolated than that
  209. 2017-02-20 12:25:11 Theophrastus .yt the wall
  210. 2017-02-20 12:25:11 Internets :: YouTube The Wall Official Trailer #1 (2017) John Cena, Aaron Taylor-Johnson Drama Movie HD :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyCuUr2_hmA (03:00) :: Views 4,003,934 :: Rating [+] 20,052 likes [-] 906 dislikes ::
  211. 2017-02-20 12:25:12 Lerxst Title: The Wall Official Trailer #1 (2017) John Cena, Aaron Taylor-Johnson Drama Movie HD, Views: 4003934, Rating: 96.0%
  212. 2017-02-20 12:25:15 Theophrastus fuck off
  213. 2017-02-20 12:25:19 Theophrastus .yt The Wall Pink Floyd
  214. 2017-02-20 12:25:20 Internets :: YouTube Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall (HQ) :: URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U (06:01) :: Views 220,004,810 :: Rating [+] 933,840 likes [-] 29,265 dislikes ::
  215. 2017-02-20 12:25:21 Lerxst Title: Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall (HQ), Views: 220004810, Rating: 97.0%
  216. 2017-02-20 12:25:30 Theophrastus there you go the pinnacle of feeling isolated from the world
  217. 2017-02-20 12:25:39 deerhunter what if you feel ylike you don't even belong in the 'im a sad teen' group
  218. 2017-02-20 12:25:51 Theophrastus then you're thinking you're more special than you are
  219. 2017-02-20 12:25:56 deerhunter ok fine
  220. 2017-02-20 12:26:07 Theophrastus because it's something just about everyone goes through
  221. 2017-02-20 12:26:08 deerhunter but when you are feeling that way, you LITERALLY think you're the saddest person in the world
  222. 2017-02-20 12:26:14 deerhunter no matter how much of a delusion it is
  223. 2017-02-20 12:26:19 deerhunter you fucking FEEL that way at that moment
  224. 2017-02-20 12:26:33 Theophrastus but there's still far more options before we get to your obscure noise
  225. 2017-02-20 12:26:45 deerhunter some people dont have the luxury of going 'this is something everyone goes through'
  226. 2017-02-20 12:26:53 Theophrastus sad pop songs, a lot of that 90s stuff that is melancholy
  227. 2017-02-20 12:26:54 deerhunter and think what THEY'RE going through is WAY worse
  228. 2017-02-20 12:27:04 Theophrastus 80s power ballads
  229. 2017-02-20 12:27:08 deerhunter jesus christ.
  230. 2017-02-20 12:27:18 deerhunter all of that music is relatable to arguable half the population still
  231. 2017-02-20 12:27:20 Theophrastus so what exactly does your edgy noise convey empathic was
  232. 2017-02-20 12:27:21 Theophrastus wise
  233. 2017-02-20 12:27:36 Theophrastus that existing genres that are more common do not
  234. 2017-02-20 12:27:56 deerhunter when you feel that even the 'alternative' music is unrelatable
  235. 2017-02-20 12:28:05 Theophrastus how is that relatable
  236. 2017-02-20 12:28:15 Theophrastus is it because it's just a bunch of noise that literally nobody likes or listens to?
  237. 2017-02-20 12:28:31 deerhunter you don't understand the feeling that it conveys.
  238. 2017-02-20 12:28:45 deerhunter ok
  239. 2017-02-20 12:28:46 Theophrastus i think that's pretty spot on
  240. 2017-02-20 12:28:59 deerhunter i will type a lot so just listen for a little bit
  241. 2017-02-20 12:29:24 deerhunter when you feel isolated by top 40 pop music, you feel you can't relate to being happy all the time, so what do you turn to?
  242. 2017-02-20 12:29:38 deerhunter alt music, maybe like nine inch nails and nirvana etc
  243. 2017-02-20 12:29:54 deerhunter what if you feel that even that music is isolating? you cant even relate to that music?
  244. 2017-02-20 12:30:12 deerhunter you go further and further down until you find the music that 'gets' you, that you can identify with
  245. 2017-02-20 12:30:44 deerhunter the fact that you dont understand 'edgy noise' shows how specific the emotion it is trying to convey.
  246. 2017-02-20 12:31:09 deerhunter obviously very few people like it. because those people feel isolated by 99% of music out there
  247. 2017-02-20 12:31:41 Theophrastus or people with mental instabilities who think it constitutes as music
  248. 2017-02-20 12:31:48 deerhunter i just dont understand, at what point does this not make sense to you? honestly i feel you are just missing it
  249. 2017-02-20 12:31:50 deerhunter OK
  250. 2017-02-20 12:31:52 deerhunter FINE
  251. 2017-02-20 12:31:54 deerhunter YES
  252. 2017-02-20 12:32:06 deerhunter but they still identify with it
  253. 2017-02-20 12:32:14 Theophrastus doesn't mean i have to recognize it as music
  254. 2017-02-20 12:32:35 deerhunter i think you're doing yourself an intellectual disservice by not seeing it as music, though
  255. 2017-02-20 12:33:04 Theophrastus i think i'd have to be schizophrenic to enjoy it
  256. 2017-02-20 12:33:08 Theophrastus a real shame
  257. 2017-02-20 12:33:29 deerhunter people who feel like they dont fit in to ANYWHERE, even the alternative scene, obviously by its very nature the music they relate to will not be relatable to 99%+ of the population
  258. 2017-02-20 12:34:24 deerhunter you simply lack the empathy to understand it. and instead of admitting that, your ego forces you to just dismiss it as 'pretentious'
  259. 2017-02-20 12:34:41 Theophrastus i'm not dismissing it as pretentious
  260. 2017-02-20 12:34:44 Theophrastus i'm calling it edgy noise
  261. 2017-02-20 12:34:50 Theophrastus because it offends my ears
  262. 2017-02-20 12:35:15 deerhunter you call it 'edgy'
  263. 2017-02-20 12:35:36 deerhunter as if it was made purely for shock value's sake
  264. 2017-02-20 12:35:37 Theophrastus every person i've met who is into that kind of music has been an edgy mental case riddled with defects
  265. 2017-02-20 12:35:48 deerhunter exactly
  266. 2017-02-20 12:35:57 Theophrastus so i'm pretty right in calling it edgy
  267. 2017-02-20 12:36:05 deerhunter no
  268. 2017-02-20 12:36:39 deerhunter edgy would be like setting tub girl as your wallpaper
  269. 2017-02-20 12:37:07 deerhunter but if you sincerely relate to a type of music that almost everyone else doesnt relate to, its not edgy
  270. 2017-02-20 12:37:12 deerhunter it's just unrelatable
  271. 2017-02-20 12:37:15 deerhunter tyo you
  272. 2017-02-20 12:37:17 deerhunter to you*
  273. 2017-02-20 12:37:23 Theophrastus and i have every right to call it edgy
  274. 2017-02-20 12:37:33 Theophrastus stop getting so defensive about your bad music my dude
  275. 2017-02-20 12:37:51 deerhunter no because by calling it edgy you're just dismissing the fact that people sincerely empathize with it
  276. 2017-02-20 12:38:09 deerhunter im not being defensive. im just trying to educate you
  277. 2017-02-20 12:38:25 @UrbanInvader are you two still going at it?
  278. 2017-02-20 12:38:53 deerhunter yes
  279. 2017-02-20 12:38:59 Theophrastus sorry that i dislike people who think noise is a legitimate genre
  280. 2017-02-20 12:39:29 deerhunter fine you can dislike them sure. i dislike people who like ariana grande
  281. 2017-02-20 12:39:41 Theophrastus like retards who think pop-punk can exist
  282. 2017-02-20 12:40:16 deerhunter for example
  283. 2017-02-20 12:40:30 deerhunter do you think people who say they like modern art, do you think they're lying?
  284. 2017-02-20 12:40:38 @UrbanInvader guys
  285. 2017-02-20 12:40:43 @UrbanInvader why does music need genres?
  286. 2017-02-20 12:40:56 Theophrastus because there are distinctly different styles of music
  287. 2017-02-20 12:41:15 Theophrastus but retards who think that if they play this chord instead of that chord that they're a completely different genre
  288. 2017-02-20 12:41:54 deerhunter for the same reason we use words like 'liberal' and 'conservative'
  289. 2017-02-20 12:42:10 @UrbanInvader why don't you two just agree to dissagree?
  290. 2017-02-20 12:42:21 deerhunter because it's not about disagreeing
  291. 2017-02-20 12:43:01 deerhunter he can say that he doesnt relate to noisey music and i'd be fine with that. but by calling it edgy you're dismissing the people that do and basically saying that they're lying
  292. 2017-02-20 12:43:43 @UrbanInvader I call witch-house edgy, but I still listen to it?
  293. 2017-02-20 12:43:47 Theophrastus i don't get how you're getting that
  294. 2017-02-20 12:43:51 @UrbanInvader does that mean I'm dissmissing myself
  295. 2017-02-20 12:43:58 Theophrastus it's like you're offended that i don't like it
  296. 2017-02-20 12:44:02 deerhunter edgy is just such a stupid fucking word
  297. 2017-02-20 12:44:12 Theophrastus it's apt in describing
  298. 2017-02-20 12:44:29 deerhunter people call everything edgy. edgy this edgy that this is edgy wow so edgy
  299. 2017-02-20 12:44:45 Theophrastus because the two tracks you posted are actually something someone would probably listen to in a dank basement while plotting some kind of mass shooting or killing
  300. 2017-02-20 12:44:59 deerhunter not really
  301. 2017-02-20 12:45:13 deerhunter most people that would listen to that music are just autistic losers who are neets living in a basement
  302. 2017-02-20 12:45:56 deerhunter arguably those type of people feel more isolated from society than criminals do
  303. 2017-02-20 12:46:14 Theophrastus how would you know?
  304. 2017-02-20 12:46:26 deerhunter because a lot of metal talks about killing and shooting
  305. 2017-02-20 12:46:29 Theophrastus I'd say someone like a serial killer or something would feel pretty damn detached and isolated
  306. 2017-02-20 12:46:31 Theophrastus so does a lot of rap
  307. 2017-02-20 12:46:35 Theophrastus so does a lot of prog rock
  308. 2017-02-20 12:46:36 deerhunter exactly
  309. 2017-02-20 12:46:47 Theophrastus hell
  310. 2017-02-20 12:46:48 Theophrastus country
  311. 2017-02-20 12:46:49 deerhunter obviously a lot of people must relate to wanting to kill people
  312. 2017-02-20 12:46:50 Theophrastus talks about it a lot
  313. 2017-02-20 12:46:53 @UrbanInvader what do you guys think of this music? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8xeStLTnhM
  314. 2017-02-20 12:46:54 deerhunter and most people do
  315. 2017-02-20 12:46:54 Lerxst Title: Ludovico Einaudi - Petricor, Views: 125282, Rating: 99.0%
  316. 2017-02-20 12:47:40 Theophrastus pretty calming
  317. 2017-02-20 12:47:41 madprops rappers keep killing mc's in every track
  318. 2017-02-20 12:47:43 deerhunter most killers are just normal people, they only lack the inhabition to restrain themselves from acting on impulse
  319. 2017-02-20 12:48:01 Theophrastus most killers are actually people who act on impulse in a heated moment
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  321. 2017-02-20 12:48:15 Theophrastus you know, they catch their wife in bed with another man and kill them both
  322. 2017-02-20 12:48:24 deerhunter exactly
  323. 2017-02-20 12:48:29 Theophrastus they never would have done that had they not been sent over the edge
  324. 2017-02-20 12:48:42 Theophrastus not that they have been struggling to not act on the impulse to kill
  325. 2017-02-20 12:48:44 deerhunter the urge to kill a super common emotion
  326. 2017-02-20 12:48:45 Theophrastus that's completely different
  327. 2017-02-20 12:48:51 Theophrastus no, no it really isn't
  328. 2017-02-20 12:48:54 deerhunter yes it is
  329. 2017-02-20 12:49:01 Theophrastus do you struggle to not kill people daily
  330. 2017-02-20 12:49:04 Theophrastus ?
  331. 2017-02-20 12:49:08 Theophrastus i don't
  332. 2017-02-20 12:49:09 deerhunter people say 'omg i wanted to just kill this guy today'
  333. 2017-02-20 12:49:11 deerhunter all the time
  334. 2017-02-20 12:49:12 @UrbanInvader I've never had the urge to end someone's life
  335. 2017-02-20 12:49:18 Theophrastus that's called words
  336. 2017-02-20 12:49:21 Theophrastus not an urge
  337. 2017-02-20 12:49:22 madprops "i could kill him right now"
  338. 2017-02-20 12:49:32 Theophrastus also context
  339. 2017-02-20 12:49:57 deerhunter yes. the only thing holding you back from actually acting on it is your societal inhibitions
  340. 2017-02-20 12:50:07 Theophrastus no, i'd probably not kill unless necessary
  341. 2017-02-20 12:50:11 Theophrastus even without society
  342. 2017-02-20 12:50:12 deerhunter i.e the ego restrains the id
  343. 2017-02-20 12:50:29 @UrbanInvader isn't it the other way around?
  344. 2017-02-20 12:50:31 deerhunter well, both the superego and ego trstrain the id
  345. 2017-02-20 12:50:46 deerhunter no, the id is primal instincts
  346. 2017-02-20 12:51:01 deerhunter such as the urge to punch someone or kill them
  347. 2017-02-20 12:51:11 @UrbanInvader I could never remember because it's a pretty stupid and overly simplistic view of the human subconsious
  348. 2017-02-20 12:51:12 Theophrastus but you're saying that urge is constant
  349. 2017-02-20 12:51:14 deerhunter the ego goes 'oh, well if i punch this taxi driver how will i get to my destination'
  350. 2017-02-20 12:51:19 Theophrastus and it's not
  351. 2017-02-20 12:51:28 deerhunter then the superego goes 'oh if i kill this guy i'd go to jail and he has kids and etc etc'
  352. 2017-02-20 12:51:29 << IMAS has kicked deerhunter (you said a bad word! :o)
  353. 2017-02-20 12:51:34 @UrbanInvader haha
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  355. 2017-02-20 12:51:39 deerhunter what lol
  356. 2017-02-20 12:51:42 Theophrastus i don't always want to punch someone
  357. 2017-02-20 12:51:53 Theophrastus nothing to do with my mind restraining me
  358. 2017-02-20 12:51:58 deerhunter ok, but you can't say you NEVER felt that way
  359. 2017-02-20 12:52:07 Theophrastus yeah, but i don't ALWAYS feel that way
  360. 2017-02-20 12:52:12 Theophrastus so your point is moot
  361. 2017-02-20 12:52:20 Theophrastus i don't encounter that issue every day
  362. 2017-02-20 12:52:21 deerhunter i never said that you always felt that way
  363. 2017-02-20 12:52:37 Theophrastus that's what you're implying and earlier, that the urge to kill and hurt is super common
  364. 2017-02-20 12:52:38 deerhunter i was saying that that emotion is common across pretty much the entire population
  365. 2017-02-20 12:52:54 deerhunter as in, people will say 'yeah i know that feeling'
  366. 2017-02-20 12:52:58 deerhunter not that they feel it everyday
  367. 2017-02-20 12:53:27 Theophrastus the urge for violence is not common
  368. 2017-02-20 12:53:40 Theophrastus if it were common that would mean every day your average human would feel a need to commit violence
  369. 2017-02-20 12:53:50 Theophrastus or every other day
  370. 2017-02-20 12:53:55 Theophrastus you get the idea on the time
  371. 2017-02-20 12:53:57 deerhunter for fuck sake you are completely missing it
  372. 2017-02-20 12:54:04 Theophrastus i think it's you that's missing it really
  373. 2017-02-20 12:54:09 deerhunter no its not common day to day. its common person to person
  374. 2017-02-20 12:54:33 Theophrastus so we're all slaves to our primal instincts that we have evolved to suppress naturally
  375. 2017-02-20 12:54:40 deerhunter ...yes
  376. 2017-02-20 12:54:48 Theophrastus really activates my almonds pal
  377. 2017-02-20 12:54:49 deerhunter its basic psychology
  378. 2017-02-20 12:55:12 deerhunter we suppress our primal instincts to function in society
  379. 2017-02-20 12:55:13 Theophrastus i'll remember that the next time i struggle to refrain from braining some guy i disagree with
  380. 2017-02-20 12:55:44 Theophrastus or when i fight the largest male in the area for reproductive rights of all the women near me
  381. 2017-02-20 12:55:48 @UrbanInvader oh lol
  382. 2017-02-20 12:55:54 @UrbanInvader no wonder it's overly simplified
  383. 2017-02-20 12:56:07 @UrbanInvader the id, ego and superego theory was a freud thing
  384. 2017-02-20 12:56:09 deerhunter if we were not civlized, and we lived in tribes
  385. 2017-02-20 12:56:10 Theophrastus kek
  386. 2017-02-20 12:56:15 Theophrastus >freudian psychology
  387. 2017-02-20 12:56:17 deerhunter you would act on your primal instincts way more often
  388. 2017-02-20 12:56:18 @UrbanInvader yeh, I wouldn't trust anything that crackhead said
  389. 2017-02-20 12:56:27 Theophrastus i doubt it
  390. 2017-02-20 12:56:42 deerhunter if someone looked at your wife funny. you would kill them because that literally is a surivval instinct
  391. 2017-02-20 12:56:57 Theophrastus maybe 10000 years ago
  392. 2017-02-20 12:56:57 @UrbanInvader wat
  393. 2017-02-20 12:57:01 Theophrastus and i doubt that
  394. 2017-02-20 12:57:08 deerhunter ok then you're just in fucking denial
  395. 2017-02-20 12:57:13 Theophrastus if we were acting on primal instincts we wouldn't have wives
  396. 2017-02-20 12:57:16 deerhunter read a goddamn psychology 101 textbook
  397. 2017-02-20 12:57:21 Theophrastus we would just rape whichever female was near
  398. 2017-02-20 12:57:31 deerhunter no
  399. 2017-02-20 12:57:38 Theophrastus that's primal instinct though
  400. 2017-02-20 12:57:40 deerhunter monogamy IS a primal instinct
  401. 2017-02-20 12:57:53 deerhunter the child has a much better chance of surviving if both a man and a woman are there for it
  402. 2017-02-20 12:58:05 Theophrastus wrong in several cases in animals
  403. 2017-02-20 12:58:07 deerhunter the wife for food, the man for protection aggainst animals and other people etc
  404. 2017-02-20 12:58:15 deerhunter ok but we are not all animals.
  405. 2017-02-20 12:58:17 Theophrastus humans are backwards when it comes to that
  406. 2017-02-20 12:58:21 deerhunter we are a specific animal
  407. 2017-02-20 12:58:27 Theophrastus usually it's the female who is the defender
  408. 2017-02-20 12:58:53 deerhunter not very recently for humans.
  409. 2017-02-20 12:59:07 Theophrastus so our primal instincts have evolved then?
  410. 2017-02-20 12:59:10 deerhunter why do you think women develop muscle mass much less than men
  411. 2017-02-20 12:59:29 deerhunter our primal instincts have evolved since our common ancestors with gorillas, yes
  412. 2017-02-20 12:59:40 Theophrastus >ancestors
  413. 2017-02-20 12:59:41 Theophrastus >gorillas
  414. 2017-02-20 12:59:48 Theophrastus you just went full retard buddy
  415. 2017-02-20 12:59:51 deerhunter common ancestors, you fucking idiot
  416. 2017-02-20 13:00:03 Theophrastus they're on the tree but are not a common ancestor
  417. 2017-02-20 13:00:10 deerhunter your ego is literally so offend by being wrong that you're making shit up.
  418. 2017-02-20 13:00:23 deerhunter i said the common ancestors WITH gorillas
  419. 2017-02-20 13:00:24 Theophrastus closest to a common ancestor are like chimpanzees and other i think higher apes
  420. 2017-02-20 13:00:39 malkkis eh, I'm pretty sure if you go far enough back you'll find tiny mammal or something
  421. 2017-02-20 13:00:40 beamform smh @ deerhunter
  422. 2017-02-20 13:00:46 Theophrastus probably yeah
  423. 2017-02-20 13:00:47 beamform literally shilling for darwinism
  424. 2017-02-20 13:00:48 beamform lmao
  425. 2017-02-20 13:00:56 beamform macroevolution is a fraud
  426. 2017-02-20 13:01:04 Theophrastus and before that mammal
  427. 2017-02-20 13:01:07 malkkis tbh lamarckianism is where it's at
  428. 2017-02-20 13:01:10 Theophrastus you'll probably find a uh, what are they called
  429. 2017-02-20 13:01:15 Theophrastus not a crustacean
  430. 2017-02-20 13:01:18 Theophrastus but they're part of that
  431. 2017-02-20 13:01:21 Theophrastus what are squids
  432. 2017-02-20 13:01:27 Theophrastus that genus
  433. 2017-02-20 13:01:27 @UrbanInvader cepholopods?
  434. 2017-02-20 13:01:29 Theophrastus yeah
  435. 2017-02-20 13:01:31 Theophrastus cephalopods
  436. 2017-02-20 13:01:46 deerhunter you're so fucking stupid theo, im not even beating around the bush about it anymore
  437. 2017-02-20 13:01:56 Theophrastus t. edgy kid with mental instabilities
  438. 2017-02-20 13:01:56 << IMAS has kicked Theophrastus (you said a bad word! :o)
  439. 2017-02-20 13:02:01 >> Theophrastus (~Theophras@Rizon-1D130A57.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #/x/philes
  440. 2017-02-20 13:02:06 Theophrastus what's the new word
  441. 2017-02-20 13:02:07 Theophrastus mental
  442. 2017-02-20 13:02:09 Theophrastus kid
  443. 2017-02-20 13:02:10 foxxy who is denying evolution here
  444. 2017-02-20 13:02:10 << IMAS has kicked Theophrastus (you said a bad word! :o)
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  446. 2017-02-20 13:02:22 deerhunter theo is, foxxy
  447. 2017-02-20 13:02:24 Theophrastus so it's k.id?
  448. 2017-02-20 13:02:34 Theophrastus didn't you just say that
  449. 2017-02-20 13:02:35 foxxy nothing personnel
  450. 2017-02-20 13:02:46 Theophrastus we are slaves to our primal instincts and urges
  451. 2017-02-20 13:03:07 beamform k!d
  452. 2017-02-20 13:03:10 Theophrastus and disagreed when i brought up that we evolved in a sense to naturally suppress those urges due to the domestication of living in governed societies?
  453. 2017-02-20 13:03:20 Theophrastus really jogs my noggin
  454. 2017-02-20 13:03:21 beamform these word filters are shit
  455. 2017-02-20 13:03:22 beamform hth
  456. 2017-02-20 13:03:30 foxxy tbh
  457. 2017-02-20 13:03:30 deerhunter yes we naturally supress them. but we are still suppressing them
  458. 2017-02-20 13:03:42 deerhunter it is subconscious
  459. 2017-02-20 13:03:52 foxxy stupid lizard brain
  460. 2017-02-20 13:03:57 malkkis eh, certain kinda urges are pretty hardcoded to our brain
  461. 2017-02-20 13:04:06 deerhunter exactly
  462. 2017-02-20 13:04:13 malkkis certain kinda urges on the other hand, yeah, not so much
  463. 2017-02-20 13:04:25 Theophrastus then if it's a "primal" urge, then it wasn't subconscious at one point
  464. 2017-02-20 13:04:33 deerhunter no....
  465. 2017-02-20 13:04:33 foxxy brb
  466. 2017-02-20 13:04:36 malkkis I mean, when it comes down to fidelity and all that jazz
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  468. 2017-02-20 13:04:50 Theophrastus also you say monogamy is hardcoded into the brain
  469. 2017-02-20 13:04:54 deerhunter instincts are always subconscious
  470. 2017-02-20 13:05:03 Theophrastus if that's the case then why do so many people seek other mates
  471. 2017-02-20 13:05:04 Theophrastus ?
  472. 2017-02-20 13:05:19 deerhunter ok fine
  473. 2017-02-20 13:05:31 deerhunter monogamy comes from reasoning
  474. 2017-02-20 13:05:39 deerhunter but it is still an evolutionary trait
  475. 2017-02-20 13:05:40 Theophrastus monogamy comes from the church
  476. 2017-02-20 13:05:45 malkkis eh, monogamy comes from cultural traits
  477. 2017-02-20 13:05:50 deerhunter it is reasoning
  478. 2017-02-20 13:05:56 Theophrastus not evolutionary
  479. 2017-02-20 13:06:10 malkkis reasoning that differs with cultural context
  480. 2017-02-20 13:06:15 deerhunter christianity doesnt preach to avoid premartial sex completely arbitrarily
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  482. 2017-02-20 13:06:28 Theophrastus the tribes in africa, don't they tend to have an alpha rule
  483. 2017-02-20 13:06:31 Theophrastus at least some of them?
  484. 2017-02-20 13:06:36 malkkis to a some degree
  485. 2017-02-20 13:06:38 deerhunter the people that followed that value general outlasted the people who were more hedonistic
  486. 2017-02-20 13:06:41 Theophrastus plus the arabs can take as many wives as possible
  487. 2017-02-20 13:06:52 Theophrastus so you're telling me that
  488. 2017-02-20 13:06:53 deerhunter generally outlasted*
  489. 2017-02-20 13:06:56 malkkis and then there are mormons and other buncha guys
  490. 2017-02-20 13:07:03 Theophrastus the chaste christians outlasted the polygamous arabs?
  491. 2017-02-20 13:07:10 Theophrastus when both cultures are still alive and booming today?
  492. 2017-02-20 13:07:14 deerhunter arabs have only been around for like 400 years
  493. 2017-02-20 13:07:18 Theophrastus t. retard
  494. 2017-02-20 13:07:28 malkkis the thing with humanity is that it is pretty much contant flux
  495. 2017-02-20 13:07:29 @UrbanInvader uh
  496. 2017-02-20 13:07:30 @UrbanInvader what
  497. 2017-02-20 13:07:39 Theophrastus Iraq was a technological wonderland like 1200 years ago buddy
  498. 2017-02-20 13:07:40 deerhunter islam
  499. 2017-02-20 13:07:43 malkkis societies evolve, and so do our languages etc
  500. 2017-02-20 13:07:47 Theophrastus you mean muslims
  501. 2017-02-20 13:07:50 malkkis deerhunter: eh, arab = moslem
  502. 2017-02-20 13:07:52 malkkis !=*
  503. 2017-02-20 13:07:58 deerhunter if we're talking about cultural values, yes
  504. 2017-02-20 13:08:01 Theophrastus no
  505. 2017-02-20 13:08:02 Theophrastus idiot
  506. 2017-02-20 13:08:08 Theophrastus the demographic of those peoples is arab
  507. 2017-02-20 13:08:13 Theophrastus as in arabian
  508. 2017-02-20 13:08:14 Theophrastus as in
  509. 2017-02-20 13:08:16 Theophrastus arabian peninsula
  510. 2017-02-20 13:08:26 malkkis while majority of germans are christian, not all christians are arabs
  511. 2017-02-20 13:08:41 malkkis nor replace german with arab and christian with moslem
  512. 2017-02-20 13:08:56 deerhunter you're literally so offended by being wrong theo that you refuse to agree on 1% of what im saying
  513. 2017-02-20 13:09:06 Theophrastus because i'm actually not wrong
  514. 2017-02-20 13:09:10 Theophrastus and you're projecting really hard lmao
  515. 2017-02-20 13:09:18 deerhunter no you're a fucking idiot.
  516. 2017-02-20 13:09:33 Theophrastus the arabs have been around for arguably longer than most civilized countries/regions
  517. 2017-02-20 13:09:39 Theophrastus the fucking Bedouins
  518. 2017-02-20 13:09:49 Theophrastus the nomadic people that they believe gave rise to the arabs
  519. 2017-02-20 13:09:53 Theophrastus are still around
  520. 2017-02-20 13:09:59 deerhunter yes they keep many wives. but that doesnt mean they fuck a woman and let it give birth in a ditch
  521. 2017-02-20 13:10:07 Theophrastus but it's polygamy
  522. 2017-02-20 13:10:15 Theophrastus so saying that monogamy is an evolutionary trait is moot by that
  523. 2017-02-20 13:10:24 deerhunter no you're just being daft.
  524. 2017-02-20 13:10:29 Theophrastus in what way
  525. 2017-02-20 13:10:31 @UrbanInvader there are proven links between the arabs and vikings too ( trade and settlement )
  526. 2017-02-20 13:10:38 Theophrastus i'm refuting your point with logic
  527. 2017-02-20 13:10:41 Theophrastus and reasoning
  528. 2017-02-20 13:10:46 deerhunter by monogamy i meant staying with your wife
  529. 2017-02-20 13:10:53 Theophrastus that's not what monogamy means
  530. 2017-02-20 13:10:59 Theophrastus that's fidelity
  531. 2017-02-20 13:11:07 deerhunter ok fine. being a fucking autist and pick sementics
  532. 2017-02-20 13:11:11 Theophrastus it's not semantics
  533. 2017-02-20 13:11:11 deerhunter thats not a fucking argument
  534. 2017-02-20 13:11:14 Theophrastus you're using the wrong word
  535. 2017-02-20 13:11:18 malkkis UrbanInvader: incidentally, there was also bunch of northmen who settled south as body guards etc
  536. 2017-02-20 13:11:32 deerhunter 'uhh well the dictionary says blah blah xDDD i dont understand nuance ''
  537. 2017-02-20 13:11:36 deerhunter you're so fucking autistic
  538. 2017-02-20 13:11:40 Theophrastus wew
  539. 2017-02-20 13:11:48 Theophrastus someone's angry they got proven incorrect
  540. 2017-02-20 13:11:51 Theophrastus wasn't that supposed to be me
  541. 2017-02-20 13:11:55 Theophrastus something about my ego
  542. 2017-02-20 13:12:00 deerhunter you dont even care for what im saying, you're just desperately pulling anything out of your ass to 'prove' me wrong
  543. 2017-02-20 13:12:02 malkkis "eh, lemme call apples to oranges because they're both fruits, y'all just autistics"
  544. 2017-02-20 13:12:20 malkkis sure, desire to stay with mate is pretty prevalent and strong
  545. 2017-02-20 13:12:31 deerhunter thats what i meant when i said monogamy
  546. 2017-02-20 13:12:37 Theophrastus but that's not what that means
  547. 2017-02-20 13:12:41 deerhunter fine thats not the strict definition of monogamy. but thats what i meant
  548. 2017-02-20 13:12:47 malkkis but that doesn't necessarily count the amount of mates(ie, whether it is poly, mono-, duo- or whatevergamy)
  549. 2017-02-20 13:12:53 deerhunter see, you're just choosing to be autistic about it
  550. 2017-02-20 13:13:03 Theophrastus but you used the incorrect word
  551. 2017-02-20 13:13:04 malkkis eh, you're not being exact
  552. 2017-02-20 13:13:07 Theophrastus and then tried to call me an idiot
  553. 2017-02-20 13:13:15 deerhunter for some reason, malkkis can understand what i was trying to say
  554. 2017-02-20 13:13:17 Theophrastus when i refuted the point with the word you brought up
  555. 2017-02-20 13:13:17 deerhunter but you can't
  556. 2017-02-20 13:13:22 malkkis and usually when people talk about stuff like biology etc we try to be exact
  557. 2017-02-20 13:13:37 Theophrastus it's not my fault you don't understand what the term monogamy means
  558. 2017-02-20 13:13:49 malkkis because different words with somewhat similar scope might carry different connontations in regard of the subject matter at hand
  559. 2017-02-20 13:14:15 deerhunter ok but im not writing a goddamn scientific paper.
  560. 2017-02-20 13:14:35 Theophrastus but you were still wrong
  561. 2017-02-20 13:14:36 deerhunter i know im bad at explaining things.
  562. 2017-02-20 13:14:49 malkkis eh, that's hardly my problem
  563. 2017-02-20 13:14:59 deerhunter but to just pick words and attack my reasoning based on 1 word alone is fucking stupid
  564. 2017-02-20 13:15:19 malkkis people tend to except certain kinda clarity based on the subject matter
  565. 2017-02-20 13:15:34 Theophrastus you said monogamy was an evolutionary trait
  566. 2017-02-20 13:15:47 deerhunter yes, i meant attending your mate.
  567. 2017-02-20 13:16:02 deerhunter as malkkis said, it doesnt matter how many mates you have, but you're attending them
  568. 2017-02-20 13:16:15 Theophrastus Search Results
  569. 2017-02-20 13:16:15 Theophrastus mo·nog·a·my
  570. 2017-02-20 13:16:15 Theophrastus məˈnäɡəmē/
  571. 2017-02-20 13:16:15 Theophrastus noun
  572. 2017-02-20 13:16:15 Theophrastus noun: monogamy
  573. 2017-02-20 13:16:16 Theophrastus the practice or state of being married to one person at a time.
  574. 2017-02-20 13:16:16 Theophrastus the practice or state of having a sexual relationship with only one partner.
  575. 2017-02-20 13:16:16 << Hell has kicked Theophrastus (Stop flooding!)
  576. 2017-02-20 13:16:18 deerhunter ok i used the wrong word.
  577. 2017-02-20 13:16:20 >> Theophrastus (~Theophras@Rizon-1D130A57.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #/x/philes
  578. 2017-02-20 13:16:21 deerhunter i am admitting that.
  579. 2017-02-20 13:16:25 Theophrastus do you see
  580. 2017-02-20 13:16:27 Theophrastus the confusion there
  581. 2017-02-20 13:16:28 deerhunter that doesnt make my argument invalid
  582. 2017-02-20 13:16:40 deerhunter you're being so obtuse it's ridiculous.
  583. 2017-02-20 13:16:40 Theophrastus but it makes your calling my reasoning flawed wrong
  584. 2017-02-20 13:16:50 Theophrastus because back when i said humans weren't naturally monogamous
  585. 2017-02-20 13:16:56 Theophrastus you said WOW YOU ARE SO STUPID
  586. 2017-02-20 13:16:59 Theophrastus or something like that
  587. 2017-02-20 13:17:06 Theophrastus and then told me i was wrong yet again
  588. 2017-02-20 13:17:24 Theophrastus when malkkis had the point of it being more about cultural values
  589. 2017-02-20 13:17:36 %IMAS *chews popcorn*
  590. 2017-02-20 13:18:05 deerhunter no, malkkis understood what i meant was attending your mate and not strictly monogamy.
  591. 2017-02-20 13:18:18 deerhunter as opposed to just fucking everything possible in your sight
  592. 2017-02-20 13:18:20 Theophrastus what you are failing
  593. 2017-02-20 13:18:23 Theophrastus to understand
  594. 2017-02-20 13:18:31 Theophrastus is that is not the word to use here
  595. 2017-02-20 13:18:37 deerhunter OK
  596. 2017-02-20 13:18:41 deerhunter I AM ADMITTING THAT
  597. 2017-02-20 13:18:46 deerhunter I ADMITTED THAT 20 TIMES
  598. 2017-02-20 13:18:48 Theophrastus then why are you still calling me obtuse
  599. 2017-02-20 13:18:55 Theophrastus and an idiot
  600. 2017-02-20 13:18:59 Theophrastus when it was your mistake
  601. 2017-02-20 13:19:00 deerhunter because you keep fucking drawling on about me using the wrong word.
  602. 2017-02-20 13:19:04 Theophrastus that brought us to this point
  603. 2017-02-20 13:19:06 Theophrastus ??
  604. 2017-02-20 13:19:22 Theophrastus it's like you never once stopped
  605. 2017-02-20 13:19:30 Theophrastus to ask if we were on the same page
  606. 2017-02-20 13:19:39 Theophrastus you just assumed i'd understand when you were using the entirely wrong word
  607. 2017-02-20 13:19:42 deerhunter again, my intentional point being that people have a evolutionary advantage to attend their mate.
  608. 2017-02-20 13:19:48 >> aninnymouse (~no@Rizon-5822E439.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) has joined #/x/philes
  609. 2017-02-20 13:19:49 %IMAS hi aninnymouse
  610. 2017-02-20 13:19:51 Theophrastus like
  611. 2017-02-20 13:19:54 Theophrastus how can you even just assume
  612. 2017-02-20 13:19:57 @UrbanInvader hey aninnymouse <3
  613. 2017-02-20 13:19:57 -- Mode #/x/philes [+o aninnymouse] by Hell
  614. 2017-02-20 13:19:59 Theophrastus i'll know what goes on in that head
  615. 2017-02-20 13:20:04 @aninnymouse hey
  616. 2017-02-20 13:20:05 @aninnymouse wut
  617. 2017-02-20 13:20:07 deerhunter thats besides the point
  618. 2017-02-20 13:20:14 Theophrastus it's called you not thinking at all buddy
  619. 2017-02-20 13:20:15 deerhunter i admitted that i used the wrong word 20 times
  620. 2017-02-20 13:20:23 Theophrastus and it's what's brought us to this point
  621. 2017-02-20 13:20:24 deerhunter but you still keep refusing to see my point
  622. 2017-02-20 13:20:33 deerhunter again, my intentional point being that people have a evolutionary advantage to attend their mate.
  623. 2017-02-20 13:20:35 deerhunter again, my intentional point being that people have a evolutionary advantage to attend their mate.
  624. 2017-02-20 13:20:43 Theophrastus because i'm peeved that you called me an idiot and a moron when you fucked up and used the incorrect word
  625. 2017-02-20 13:20:47 Theophrastus and then blamed me
  626. 2017-02-20 13:20:50 Theophrastus for not understanding
  627. 2017-02-20 13:21:11 deerhunter no i called you a moron because you're going off on a tangent about the fucking word
  628. Theophrastus> you also said
  629. <Theophrastus> arabs have only been around for 400 or so years
  630. <Theophrastus> and when i said you were wrong on that you insulted me
  631. <deerhunter> here is my context:
  632. <deerhunter> this is when i first said the word:
  633. <deerhunter> monogamy IS a primal instinct
  634. <deerhunter> the child has a much better chance of surviving if both a man and a woman are there for it
  635. <Theophrastus> "no ur just being daft"
  636. <Theophrastus> but that's not
  637. <Theophrastus> monogamy
  638. <Theophrastus> that's what is it, husbandry?
  639. <Theophrastus> rearing?
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  641. <deerhunter> i specifically said its more about the man and woman being present
  642. <deerhunter> no matter if it's man + woman, man + woman + woman +woman
  643. <Theophrastus> that doesn't change the fact i was called an idiot and wrong several times about different things that came up on things you were clearly wrong about
  644. <deerhunter> what was i wrong about.
  645. <Theophrastus> such as the arabs only being around for 400 years
  646. <Theophrastus> some good alternative facts there buddy
  647. <deerhunter> i meant fucking islamic faith you idiot
  648. <deerhunter> this is what im talking about
  649. <Theophrastus> but
  650. <Theophrastus> you yet again
  651. <Theophrastus> used the wrong
  652. <Theophrastus> term
  653. <Theophrastus> and then get pissy
  654. <Theophrastus> when you're told you're wrong
  655. <Theophrastus> and again when you said that we're all just prisoners and slaves to the primal urges we have
  656. <deerhunter> when you refuse to give someone the benefit of the doubt 100% of the time, sure you're going to win an argument evertime
  657. <Theophrastus> and how your pretty much black and white interpretation of freudian psychology was absolute and couldn't be thought it was wrong
  658. <malkkis> tbh hard to have an argument when you even don't know what the fuck is going on
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