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  1. ---------- Forwarded message ----------
  2. From: Mitali Pattnaik <mitalip@gmail.com>
  3. Date: Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:15 PM
  4. Subject: Re: PLEASE REMOVE MY PHONE #
  5. To: Roger Pincombe <roger@pincombe.com>
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  8. thank you for removing my profile.
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  10. I understand this data is available somewhere but I don't think all of it is publicly available (like my phone number is only visible to FB friends or in my email signature) and definitely not easily grokkable in one place. making it so only helps people with bad intentions. people who are supposed to be able to reach me already know how to reach me. does that make sense?
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  12. also as for the paid services like Full Contact, trolls who harass women on the Internets generally don't pay for social data APIs even if it's a few cents. The people or companies who do pay (and my startup is one of them) do it for business reasons primarily to contact prospective customers for enterprise sales.
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  14. The reason I and other tech companies like mine pay for this data is *not* because we don't know that we can also crawl the web and collect the same data (my team is ex- Google, Twitter and Microsoft). you are not revealing this to us by making this data freely available. rather we pay for this data because we have other things that we need to focus on, namely our core business. while FullContact's core business is making sure this data is properly collected, accurate, and always kept up-to-date. and I'm happy to pay for that service. it's simply division of labor and it's a basic tenet of our society.
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  16. I hope you understand my perspective. I heard about your site on a Twitter alumni slack group. lots of people, especially women, are pretty upset about it and I just wanted to explain to you why.
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  18. thanks,
  19. Mitali
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  23. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:41 PM -0700, "Roger Pincombe" <roger@pincombe.com> wrote:
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  25. Hey Mitali, I am planning to implement proper opt-out functionality to allow users to opt themselves out, but life has gotten in the way of working much on this little side project of mine. I've gone ahead and manually removed your profile. It may take up to a day to clear out of the cache. I'm sorry you didn't agree with AllThePeople.net, but I hope you'll reconsider in the future.
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  27. Even though I've removed your profile from my site, your information is still available elsewhere online. AllThePeople.net just automates the fairly simple process of looking up data on various social sites, so if ATP can find your info, you can bet that someone who really wants to find your info would be able to. Furthermore there are plenty of paid services like FullContact, Spokeo, RapLeaf, Ark, Vibe, Plaxo, Clearbit, and PeopleGraph that have similar information for sale, often for only a few cents. I'm not a fan of the idea that shady companies sell your data without you knowing, and I'm trying to reduce its market value by making it freely available to everyone.
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  29. If you don't mind me asking, is there anything that I could change about AllThePeople.net to make it acceptable? Several people have mentioned that having phone/email information is what puts it too far. Do you think redacting contact info would make it better? I'm happy to get more perspectives if you'd like to share your thoughts.
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  31. -Roger
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