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  1. [10:53 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Hey guys who would i need to speak with about the cup mod and a law suit
  2. [10:54 AM] Kllrt: law suit?
  3. [10:54 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: yes
  4. [10:55 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Or more of the lines i need to speak with who ever is in charge of the cup mod its self
  5. [10:55 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I am trying to come to the cup dev team first before it gets out of hand
  6. [10:56 AM] Chairborne: lawsuit about what?
  7. [10:56 AM] TheConen: well, we don't have one boss at the top who is in charge of everything(edited)
  8. [10:56 AM] NeoArmageddon: You are better asking BI about that stuff
  9. [10:56 AM] TheConen: but let's go to #conference and talk there
  10. [10:56 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: ok im new to this so how do i do that call
  11. [10:57 AM] TheConen: nevermind, let's talk here
  12. [10:57 AM] TheConen: so what's the problem?
  13. [10:57 AM] NeoArmageddon: Just explain what you are talking about
  14. [10:57 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: to much to type
  15. [10:58 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i have a ts3
  16. [10:58 AM] Varanon: Is this your website ? http://epochpro.clanwebsite.com/
  17. EpochPro
  18. EpochPro
  19. [10:58 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: ts.epchpro.com
  20. [10:58 AM] NeoArmageddon: Why should we go to your TS, when you want something from us? We have other things to do... like making a mod(edited)
  21. [10:58 AM] Varanon: If yes, it's all pretty simple: You are a monetized server, CUP does not allow monetization, so either you remove montization from your server, or you remove CUP
  22. [10:59 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: monetized server yes , but all weapons and helis and cars are there for all players , no one has to donate to get said cup mod weapons or helis
  23. [11:00 AM] Varanon: It's the server's policy, not whether you pay for CUP items or not
  24. [11:00 AM] TheConen: doesn't matter, CUP doesn't allow its use on monetized servers, regardless if the CUP content itself is monetized or not
  25. [11:00 AM] Varanon: CUP may not be used on a monetized server, as simple as that
  26. [11:00 AM] Varanon: Sorry if that is inconvenient for you, but those are the rules
  27. [11:00 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Well kinda ruins the whole aspect of the server man
  28. [11:01 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: cup weapons is fucking bad ass
  29. [11:01 AM] Varanon: As I said, sorry if that is inconvenient, but we simply do not allow it
  30. [11:01 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i dont want to get rid of cup
  31. [11:01 AM] TheConen: you can still collect donations, but you are not allowed to monetize
  32. [11:01 AM] Chairborne: or offer rewards for donations
  33. [11:01 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: You cnt offer rewards either
  34. [11:01 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: cant
  35. [11:01 AM] TheConen: the difference between those two is explained on the BI FAQ side
  36. [11:02 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I no already been with bi for over a year
  37. [11:02 AM] TheConen: https://www.bistudio.com/monetization/faq
  38. Bohemia Interactive
  39. FAQ | Server Monetization | Bohemia Interactive
  40. Bohemia Interactive monetization rules.
  41.  
  42. [11:02 AM] Varanon: Viper, no offence, but is your server monetized ?
  43. [11:02 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: yeh it is but looks like there is a bad apple from the server that got banned and starting all this shit
  44. [11:03 AM] Varanon: Ok, it is monetized, therefore, you aren't allowed to use CUP
  45. [11:03 AM] Adanteh: If it is monetized you're the bad apple and you started it yourself
  46. [11:03 AM] Chairborne: you're doing something you're not allowed to do
  47. [11:03 AM] Varanon: Sorry, but those are the rules
  48. [11:03 AM] NeoArmageddon: Stop monetization and you are free to use CUP on your server.... simple
  49. [11:03 AM] Adanteh: You want to monetize? Don't use mods that forbid you from doing so. It's super simple. Otherwise make them yourself
  50. [11:04 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ok so even though every single player that joins the server has access to every single cup mod that the server is running for free i cant use them
  51. [11:04 AM] Varanon: Monetized -> NO CUP(edited)
  52. [11:04 AM] Chairborne: if its monetized no, you can't
  53. [11:04 AM] NeoArmageddon: If you are on the BI monetization list -> No CUP
  54. [11:04 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Makes no sense and this is why the arma 3 community is posion
  55. [11:05 AM] Adanteh: lel, get a load of this guy
  56. [11:05 AM] Adanteh: Viper how much hours did you spend modding?
  57. [11:05 AM] Varanon: Sigh... right, because some team goes through all the effort of porting this, the Arma community is poison
  58. [11:05 AM] Alwarren: I tell you what doesn't make sense. Having spent MONTHS and MONTHS of work on something that WE DO NOT demand money for, only to have others monetize on it.
  59. [11:05 AM] NeoArmageddon: The community is poison because of people thinking they can sell stuff ingame that other people did, like camos for their backpacks and stuff
  60. [11:05 AM] Alwarren: These are our rules. Abide by them, or remove CUP. It is as simple as that
  61. [11:06 AM] TheConen: this pretty much sums it up, from the FAQ on our website: http://i.imgur.com/YHKHBTn.png
  62.  
  63. [11:06 AM] NeoArmageddon: We had 13 years without monetization and everything was fine. Than people started to charge "donations"
  64. [11:06 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Well i read my daily afternoon fun....
  65. [11:06 AM] Chairborne: πŸ˜‰
  66. [11:06 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I agree 100% man thats why i never did that i wanted to do it right but to limit the server from using cup mods is a bit overboard
  67. [11:06 AM] Alwarren: If that is a problem for you I can point you to the source data for the Arma 2 data files, and you can start your own mod from scratch. We'll talk again in a year or two about making sense, then.
  68. [11:06 AM] Adanteh: No iut's not
  69. [11:06 AM] NeoArmageddon: Just stop the monetization bullshit and just roll with donations
  70. [11:07 AM] Varanon: Viper, with all due respect, I've been with CUP since it was created. I spent literally 1.5 years on this
  71. [11:07 AM] Adanteh: How hard is it to run the server without CUP? Not hard at all.
  72. [11:07 AM] Adanteh: Just turn it off
  73. [11:07 AM] Adanteh: Ez
  74. [11:07 AM] Varanon: And you dare tell me I'm overboard with the simple request that CUP should not be used on monetized server ?
  75. [11:07 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I am glad you have yall have created a great mod with alot of time in it i no i have watch it grow
  76. [11:07 AM] Varanon: When I never get anything in return ?
  77. [11:07 AM] Varanon: Give me a break
  78. [11:07 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I dont charge people to join the server
  79. [11:08 AM] Chairborne: it doesnt matter
  80. [11:08 AM] NeoArmageddon: No, but for Backpack camos and some minigame stuff
  81. [11:08 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Every player has access to all weapons and mod weapons
  82. [11:08 AM] Varanon: Monetized server -> No CUP... those are the rules
  83. [11:08 AM] Alwarren: It doesn't matter, if you are monetizing as per BI'S definition, you are not allowed to use CUP. End of discussion, really.
  84. [11:08 AM] Varanon: I can understand if you don't like them, but in terms of CUP, we make the rules
  85. [11:08 AM] TheConen: Viper, it simply doesn't matter what you charge people for. If you're monetizing content - any content - you are not allowed to use CUP (and btw: RHS has the same policy). It's as simple as that.(edited)
  86. [11:09 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Well if i getr rid of monetizing then they come at me for the other stuff , i have been threw this like 4 times now with people trying to shut down my servers all the time man , see it from my side
  87. [11:10 AM] Varanon: Well, if you're no longer monetized, WE will not come at you
  88. [11:10 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ok then tell me this
  89. [11:10 AM] Varanon: That is the only limitation CUP has. If you're not monetized, feel free to use it as much as you like
  90. [11:10 AM] NeoArmageddon: And BI won't come at you aswell(edited)
  91. [11:11 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: How much of a donation would you like
  92. [11:11 AM] Varanon: ?
  93. [11:11 AM] TheConen: there are no exceptions to this rule and we are not bribable(edited)
  94. [11:11 AM] Adanteh: < insert 1 million dollars picture >
  95. [11:11 AM] TheConen: before you go there.....
  96. [11:11 AM] Alwarren: This isn't about a donation
  97. [11:11 AM] Alwarren: We simply ask you to respect our work.
  98. [11:11 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: 5mil...
  99. [11:11 AM] NeoArmageddon: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/76/762195e1666497074ede151e0cbeb39738a411d967572cbbe24b90cf8db6011f.jpg
  100.  
  101. [11:11 AM] Chairborne: several billion dollars is our price tag
  102. [11:11 AM] Cyruz: https://media.giphy.com/media/E3xXqq617AaFW/giphy.gif
  103. [11:11 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I do respect yalls work
  104. [11:12 AM] NeoArmageddon: Than don't use it on a monetized servers...
  105. [11:12 AM] Varanon: You just disrespect the license we put on it
  106. [11:12 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: I will steal some of that then πŸ˜‰
  107. [11:12 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Just all these damn walls i have to keep jumping over to just run 5 servers
  108. [11:12 AM] Adanteh: It's not all these walls. It's a very simple one
  109. [11:13 AM] Adanteh: Don't monetize with mods that say you can't monetize with it. It's a really really simple concept. And if you can't afford to run 5 servers with that, then you should consider scaling back or start making the content for it yourself.
  110. [11:13 AM] NeoArmageddon: I run a server without problems
  111. [11:13 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: No guys i am always being sent a letter from bi or another mod team about something when all players have access to it thats all im saying man ,
  112. [11:13 AM] Varanon: Viper, you can take donnations as much as you want. Just not sell stuf
  113. [11:13 AM] Varanon: Monetizing content is a tricky buisness, and you should be glad that BI even allows it, ususally, no company does it
  114. [11:14 AM] Alwarren: Viper, whatever else you have is not with us. We ask people to respect our work and not use CUP on monetized servers. Period.
  115. [11:14 AM] Varanon: But if you chose to go down that road, you're in dangerous waters
  116. [11:14 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Dangerous waters eh
  117. [11:14 AM] Varanon: You are basically running a buisiness
  118. [11:14 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: How i make no profit
  119. [11:14 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: like 0
  120. [11:15 AM] Varanon: In any case, it's pretty clear: Server monetized -> No CUP
  121. [11:15 AM] Varanon: Profit or no, doesn't matter
  122. [11:15 AM] Alwarren: Viper, what is so difficult to understand? You are monetziing your server, whether you make a profit or not is irrelevant. Our license says we do not allow the usage of CUP on a server that monetizes, ergo you have no license to use CUP and are infringing on our license.
  123. [11:16 AM] da12thMonkey: Regardless of whether you are charging people to use CUP assets specifically or not, having CUP on your server is used to attract players and expand your revenue-base, and in that way it is being used to monetise the server
  124. [11:16 AM] TheConen: If you make profit or not and what content exactly you monetize is completely irrelevant
  125. [11:16 AM] Chairborne: good point @da12thMonkey
  126. [11:16 AM] TheConen: You are monetizing something, so you are not allowed to use CUP
  127. [11:17 AM] NeoArmageddon: Okay, here is something to illustrate on the problem, as I think you don't fully understand what we mean. Imagine there is a restaurant that gives you food and drinks for for free (the restaurant is your server). We (CUP) grew some really good vegetables and we give them away for free, so other peopel can enjoy them for free aswell. Now the restaurant doesn't charge for the meals (made with our vegetables), but if you want to sit on a table, you have to pay. If you want to use the toilet, you have to pay. And if you want a glass fo water, you have to pay.
  128. Now we think that is very unfair, because we gave our vegetables for free to the restaurant. They are not selling the meals with our vegetables, but charge for other stuff and in the end the customers didn't spend money because they wanted to go to the toilet, but because they wanted the meal (playing A3 with CUP) in the first place.(edited)
  129. [11:18 AM] TheConen: @NeoArmageddon i like to think of us more as a really great steak then a vegetable.....
  130. [11:18 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I already understand that im not a idiot, I have my own oil field company
  131. [11:19 AM] Varanon: If you understand, then please respect our license
  132. [11:19 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Just really is bad when a mod team has to put certain license on said mod just sale the mod as a addon then problem solved
  133. [11:20 AM] Adanteh: ... what
  134. [11:20 AM] TheConen: you don't get the overall point of why we are doing this and why we are having said license with said restrictions......
  135. [11:20 AM] NeoArmageddon: We neither want to sell CUP nor we are allowed to
  136. [11:20 AM] Adanteh: Dude someone can make a license that says you can only use the mod every second wednesday of the month. If you have problems respecting that just don't use that. It's not so hard.
  137. [11:20 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: If the US Naval Warfare Pack was continued, we would have the same license
  138. [11:21 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I understand that just there always something i have to either take down redo or hide :]
  139. [11:21 AM] Adanteh: No there's not.
  140. [11:21 AM] Alwarren: Geez, if I make an addon that requires you to say a prayer to a deity of your choice for the well being of my pot plant Jeff in order to use that addon, then you are legally obliged to ask God for new sprouts for Jeff, wether it makes sense or not
  141. [11:21 AM] TheConen: you just have to follow the rules and you can live in peace
  142. [11:22 AM] Varanon: @Alwarren How is Jeff, by the way ?
  143. [11:22 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ok well cup mod is staying on the server
  144. [11:22 AM] Alwarren: Jeff is doing well, thank you πŸ˜ƒ
  145. [11:22 AM] Chairborne: #pray4Jeff
  146. [11:22 AM] Varanon: @Viper [Epoch Pro] so you stop monetizing ?
  147. [11:22 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Looks like i will have too now <<<<see what i mean always something :]
  148. [11:23 AM] Varanon: Well, I'm sure your oilfield company can pay for a server or two
  149. [11:23 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: now they will come at me because people can paint there car
  150. [11:23 AM] TheConen: i'm running my own community for something like 2 years now and we never had problems with anything. we are using cup, rhs, ace, tfar and a ton of other mods and i never was in the need to pay for the server with my own money. why? because we are accepting donations, completely voluntarily donations without giving anything back for them.
  151. [11:23 AM] Alwarren: Viper, if there is "always something" then you should examine your behavior because apparently, you are doing something wrong. There are enough servers where there isn't "always something"
  152. [11:23 AM] Adanteh: Dude, you're trying to act like you want to paint a wall green and then when you buy blue paint you're super weirded out about how it doesn't work
  153. [11:24 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: no not doing wrong just using the mods the community makes and bam out of all the servers there is using cup weapons i get picked out of the bunch
  154. [11:24 AM] TheConen: if you have problems financing your server with donations instead of monetization, then your server probably isn't as good as you think it is
  155. [11:25 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: no donations are not a issue bud trust me
  156. [11:25 AM] Varanon: Geez, don't make this personal, we have this rule for each and every server out there
  157. [11:25 AM] Alwarren: Donations are fine. Monetization is not
  158. [11:25 AM] TheConen: well, then, what's the problem? stop monetizing and everything's fine
  159. [11:25 AM] Varanon: You play the vicitm here, while it is OUR license that has been violated
  160. [11:25 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ha
  161. [11:26 AM] Chairborne: Ha!
  162. [11:26 AM] Alwarren: Jeff says "Ha!" too
  163. [11:26 AM] TheConen: either way, this discussion is pointless. I'm pretty sure @BI will handle the whole thing.......
  164. [11:26 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Im not playing no victim here just sad it has come to this instead of the arma 2 days when non of this crap was a big deal
  165. [11:26 AM] Chairborne: listen we explained you the rule, if you're ok with them and want to comply good for you, if you don't then you're gonna get sued
  166. [11:27 AM] Adanteh: CUP is giving you something nice to use for FREE, all you have to do is not charge people money to access features on your server. A lot of servers are doing that just fine, which is why they're not getting any problems.
  167. [11:27 AM] Chairborne: there's not much else to say
  168. [11:27 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: I say Ha! Aswell
  169. [11:27 AM] Chairborne: πŸ˜ƒ
  170. [11:27 AM] Varanon: In Arma 2 days, no one had monetized servers
  171. [11:27 AM] Varanon: Not the modders are the problem, monetization is the problem
  172. [11:27 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: There you go point made
  173. [11:27 AM] TheConen: in arma 2 days, monetization wasn't allowed at all.....
  174. [11:27 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i have no issue with cup
  175. [11:28 AM] Varanon: That made my day so much brigher now 😐
  176. [11:29 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: So i have donations for players to paint backpacks and cars or helis, now bi will come at me when i un monetiz my server correct
  177. [11:29 AM] Kllrt: Ha!
  178. [11:29 AM] Adanteh: Dude
  179. [11:29 AM] Chairborne: right
  180. [11:29 AM] Chairborne: 100% on point
  181. [11:29 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Who even came up with monetiz
  182. [11:29 AM] TheConen: you don't seem to get what the difference between a donation and monetization is
  183. [11:29 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: ?
  184. [11:29 AM] Chairborne: satan
  185. [11:29 AM] Kllrt: @TheConen is right
  186. [11:29 AM] TheConen: donation = players pay you money and they don't get anything in return. nothing, nada, niente
  187. [11:30 AM] Tom_48_97: https://www.bistudio.com/monetization
  188. Bohemia Interactive
  189. Arma 3 & Dayz Server Monetization Rules | Bohemia Interactive
  190. Bohemia Interactive monetization rules.
  191.  
  192. [11:30 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @Chairborne Probably
  193. [11:30 AM] TheConen: no camos, no backpacks, no anything
  194. [11:30 AM] Adanteh: Modders contact BIS when their mod license is being broken. You are breaking their license, meaning BIS gets notified to take care of the legel things.
  195. [11:31 AM] TheConen: as soon as they get anything in return, and it if's only a special channel in the Teamspeak, you are monetizing, because you are selling things, and it doesn't matter what you sell
  196. [11:32 AM] Varanon: or whether you make a profit or no
  197. [11:32 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: tell me this then how did yall even find out
  198. [11:33 AM] TheConen: well, you are on the BI monetized server list.....
  199. [11:33 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Some one had to report it to you
  200. [11:33 AM] Varanon: No, no one reported you
  201. [11:33 AM] Chairborne: your name is in the BI monetized servers page
  202. [11:33 AM] Chairborne: it's enough to click on the link and check
  203. [11:33 AM] Chairborne: btw we reported several other servers with yours
  204. [11:33 AM] TheConen: to be perfectly clear here: no one reported you. We ourselves went through the monetized servers list and searched out those servers using CUP
  205. [11:33 AM] Chairborne: you're not special πŸ˜›
  206. [11:34 AM] Adanteh: Anonymous source. All sources get full protection and legal support wherever needed. THey also go into a witness protection program, so (s)he has been offered a nice house in a secret location.
  207. [11:34 AM] Chairborne: CUP Witness Security Pack
  208. [11:34 AM] Chairborne:
  209.  
  210. [11:35 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Ooh, sexy
  211. [11:35 AM] Tom_48_97: I'll take the car, thanks(edited)
  212. [11:35 AM] Adanteh: Tom, that'll be $25 in donations please.
  213. [11:36 AM] TheConen: http://www.topito.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/code-03.gif
  214. [11:36 AM] Tom_48_97: @Adanteh No tools update for you then 🐐(edited)
  215. [11:36 AM] Chairborne: he got you there
  216. [11:36 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @TheConen i want that
  217. [11:37 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Shots fired
  218. [11:37 AM] TheConen: CUP police searching for monetized servers....
  219. [11:37 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Where can i sign up?
  220. [11:37 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: I'd like to join the CUPPD
  221. [11:39 AM] TheConen: applications are being accepted at http://dev.cup-arma3.org
  222. [11:39 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Yay
  223. [11:40 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @TheConen i signed up, when can i get my gun and go on patrol
  224. [11:42 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Well hope its not a server running cup then your in trouble
  225. [11:42 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: lol
  226. [11:42 AM] Adanteh: Dis guy
  227. [11:42 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i no right
  228. [11:42 AM] TheConen: dude, you seriously don't get it
  229. [11:42 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: It can run CUP, but you are not allowed to ask money for it
  230. [11:42 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i get it man just reading
  231. [11:43 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: facepalm
  232. [11:43 AM] TheConen: there are hundreds, probably thousands or tens of thousands of servers out there running CUP in peace(edited)
  233. [11:43 AM] TheConen: not monetizing
  234. [11:44 AM] Chairborne: ...or... are they
  235. [11:44 AM] TheConen: you could be one of them
  236. [11:44 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Pam pam paaammmm!!!
  237. [11:44 AM] TheConen: but instead, you chose to monetize your server, violate our license and therefore have trouble
  238. [11:44 AM] Chairborne: hope someone gets banned from there too
  239. [11:44 AM] Chairborne: need that inside knowledge
  240. [11:45 AM] Chairborne: πŸ˜‰
  241. [11:45 AM] TheConen: that's not our fault, that's yours
  242. [11:45 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: no one said it was your fault did i
  243. [11:45 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: I'll go undercover if needed 😝
  244. [11:45 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: But it will require monerization πŸ˜‚
  245. [11:45 AM] TheConen: and you will continue to have that trouble until you either stop to monetize or remove CUP from your server
  246. [11:45 AM] Varanon: No, you just said we're the ones poisoning the Arma 3 community
  247. [11:46 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: thats fine i get your uid before you get to the server 😊
  248. [11:46 AM] Alwarren: Actually you said it was us "putting up walls", which kind of implies you blame us
  249. [11:46 AM] TheConen: and we don't give a damn if you like that or not, those are the rules
  250. [11:46 AM] TheConen: and either you play by the rules or get crushed by the rules
  251. [11:47 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Well getting crushed is a little to op you think
  252. [11:47 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: and to say putting up walls i never said cup mod just the community in general
  253. [11:49 AM] Tom_48_97: If any issue regarding the monetization, please, use the report icon from this page. Other than that, I think there's not that much to say.
  254. https://www.bistudio.com/monetization/approved/arma3
  255. Bohemia Interactive
  256. Approved Server Monetizers | Bohemia Interactive
  257. Bohemia Interactive monetization rules.
  258.  
  259. [11:49 AM] Chairborne: πŸ˜‰
  260. [11:49 AM] Varanon: Well, this is our wall, and it's a big wall, it's a pretty wall, and Mexico is going to pay for it
  261. [11:49 AM] Chairborne: A BIG
  262. [11:49 AM] Chairborne: FAT
  263. [11:49 AM] Chairborne: WALL
  264. [11:49 AM] Chairborne: WITH A SHINY DOOR
  265. [11:50 AM] Tom_48_97: πŸšͺ
  266. [11:50 AM] Adanteh: That says "People in pink jerseys allowed only!"
  267. [11:50 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @Varanon haha lol
  268. [11:50 AM] Alwarren: Our other wall is made of ice, too
  269. [11:50 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Life players not allowed the signs will read
  270. [11:51 AM] Mc_Jazza: I'll be honest, an hour ago I was about to ask if I could retexture some cup stuff, then all that just blew up, and boy oh boy was it painful to watch. Just like trying to hammer a really hard nail into a thick gelatinous blob.
  271. [11:51 AM] TheConen: anyway, i'm tired of this discussion...... you know your options, now do what you can't resist. our good friend vojta obviously already sent you a message, otherwise you wouldn't be here, so you know what awaits you(edited)
  272. [11:52 AM] TheConen: or maybe you don't and you are eager to find out.....
  273. [11:52 AM] Adanteh: Mc_Jazza. Ofcourse you can retexture and you won't even have to worry that people ask money for it!
  274. [11:53 AM] TheConen: @Mc_Jazza you are free to retexture anything you want, you only need to release it under the same license as CUP does (APL-SA).
  275. [11:55 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Ah theconen see i came in here and i have once not threaten you but your little post there sums it up for me man thats all i needed was your threat to me so lets put that towards your license bud how the cup devs threaten people http://prntscr.com/b8bcxz
  276. [11:55 AM] Adanteh: haha
  277. [11:55 AM] Adanteh: fucking a
  278. [11:56 AM] Chairborne:
  279.  
  280. [11:56 AM] Adanteh: Get out of here dude
  281. [11:56 AM] Alwarren: Well that is just awesome... Jeff is giggling right now
  282. [11:56 AM] Adanteh: Kelly!
  283. [11:56 AM] Alwarren: Right Kelly.
  284. [11:56 AM] Alwarren: #pray4kelly
  285. [11:56 AM] Chairborne:
  286.  
  287. [11:57 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: My day ia getting better and better.....(edited)
  288. [11:57 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: What i come in here ask around i fully understand the issue on my side but you all talk to me like a fucking pos, i mean come on how would you feel
  289. [11:58 AM] Chairborne: we already gave you a reasonable explanation
  290. [11:58 AM] Alwarren: Did we hurt your feelings?
  291. [11:58 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: You see always a smartass answer
  292. [11:58 AM] Chairborne: the time for politenes flew off the window when you started making bullshit up and threating us
  293. [11:58 AM] Alwarren: I only give smartass answers to people that behave like dicks.
  294. [11:59 AM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: i never once threaten you or made any bs up
  295. [11:59 AM] Alwarren: Nobody threatened you.
  296. [11:59 AM] Varanon: No on threatened you either
  297. [11:59 AM] Alwarren: Grow up man
  298. [11:59 AM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: @Viper [Epoch Pro]#786 its called banter, learn it. πŸ˜‰
  299. [12:00 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Grow up really i came in here asking what the issue was and if you read all of yalls post its nothing but talking to me like a pos man
  300. [12:00 PM] Varanon: Can we now please end this discussion ? Viper, you came here, we infomred you about our license, now please adhere to the license
  301. [12:00 PM] Varanon: Not much more to say
  302. [12:00 PM] Alwarren: Well and we explained the issue to you, it's just that you don'T want to accept it. It is our mod, it is our license, adhere to it PLEASE or cease to use it.
  303. [12:00 PM] Alwarren: Simple as that.
  304. [12:01 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: I said i was but then one of the other had to chime in with another bs comment to me
  305. [12:01 PM] Alwarren: In that case, why don't you simply leave?
  306. [12:01 PM] Varanon: Well, all good then. Thank you for respecting our work and our license
  307. [12:02 PM] Mc_Jazza: At the end of the day Viper, you came here to ask a question, the CUP devs answered and told you that you were breaking the CUP license with your use of CUP on your server. You then claimed you were an oil baron and more importantly failed to accept (in writing here) what you had been told. Repeatedly.
  308. [12:02 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: Like i said i have no issue with cup love the mod just some of your staff or dev team could use some manners thats all
  309. [12:02 PM] Varanon: LOL
  310. [12:02 PM] Varanon: Ok, that was a good one
  311. [12:02 PM] Alwarren: Says the guy that irngored the license...
  312. [12:02 PM] Varanon: I will presonally spank them all
  313. [12:02 PM] Mc_Jazza: Manners, You broke the license, what on earth did you expect?(edited)
  314. [12:02 PM] Chairborne: he's the victim, dont you all understand?
  315. [12:03 PM] Chairborne: how is he supposed to gain money if he cant use our mods?!
  316. [12:03 PM] Alwarren: Alright, discussion over. We have taken a lot of time to explain our point of view, and been really trying to be polite about it. It is time now for you to comply with our license. Thank you very much, and have a nice and productive day.
  317. [12:03 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: ha i dont need money and using your mods diff doesnt get me money since half the stuff glitches out all the time
  318. [12:03 PM] NeoArmageddon: Better remove it than
  319. [12:03 PM] Chairborne: good
  320. [12:04 PM] Chairborne: you wont be missed
  321. [12:04 PM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Here we go!!
  322. [12:04 PM] Chairborne: bye
  323. [12:04 PM] Alwarren: and here we go from "I love it" to "it'S trash anyway". Oh, how I know this pattern.
  324. [12:04 PM] Varanon: Really ? Low punches now ?
  325. [12:04 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: just saying like when you fold the rotors and unfold them the heli will not start up again
  326. [12:04 PM] Rik: Is it worth still dignifying this guy with text?
  327. [12:04 PM] Viper [Epoch Pro]: no player imput
  328. [12:04 PM] NeoArmageddon: @Rik No, not really
  329. [12:04 PM] NeoArmageddon: http://i.imgur.com/O3DHIA5.gif
  330. [12:04 PM] Alwarren: dev.cup-arma3.org
  331. [12:05 PM] Mc_Jazza: @Rik No, but he's hogging this chat board
  332. [12:05 PM] Rik: BI will handle it and the guy will have to deal with whatever consequences it'll bring.
  333. [12:05 PM] Plebeian: Hello England speaking mans, I am from the rich hard working oil field company of Takistan. I am interested in offerings of two hot doggerinos for CUP, so I can make the monies from equally educated mans. Who be taking my sausage?
  334. [12:05 PM] Chairborne: he has been dealt with
  335. [12:05 PM] Chairborne: he rests with the fishes now(edited)
  336. [12:05 PM] Alwarren: Damn I was looking for the kick button and someone was faster than me -_-
  337. [12:06 PM] Rik: And now his watch has ended.
  338. [12:06 PM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: RIP
  339. [12:06 PM] Chairborne: he was dealt with... the italian way
  340.  
  341. [12:06 PM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Lol
  342. [12:06 PM] Alwarren: Good thing it was not ZE GERMAN WAY
  343. [12:07 PM] [=UKSF=] Brian/Foxone: Hahahah
  344. [12:08 PM] Varanon: I think I'll print that any pin it to the wall
  345. [12:10 PM] Chairborne: show's over, we'll now resume our regular broadcast
  346. [12:11 PM] Alwarren: @BI how about lightening the day by releasing that devblog ? nudge nudge
  347. [12:11 PM] Alwarren: ^^
  348. [12:11 PM] Alwarren: #RoadToApexIsSoLong
  349. [12:11 PM] TheConen: let's not leave the rest of the discussion undocumented, shall we? http://i.imgur.com/J0OmflC.gifv
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  353. [12:21 PM] [=UKSF=] Tim: pot get on ts
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