Evenworse

00:32 - Owluminati: I don't claim to be a scientist, but I'm pretty sure that chopping your dick off and replacing it with a nonfunctional vagina replica isn't healthy. Feeling a compulsion to do so isn't healthy either. And by the textbook definition of freak as something abnormal or markedly unusual, they're freaks. I don't make decisions for them. They make decisions for them. But I think they're shitty fucking decisions and I'm going to speak my mind on it, yes. Just because you -can- stick a fork in an electrical socket doesn't mean that you -should.- And it's a little bit of a bigger deal than a fucking call.
00:33 - Owluminati: The ramifications of surgical sex change haunt them for the rest of their lives. It's not something you turn on or off--one you make that choice you don't get to turn back. I think a lot of people make a mistake getting the surgery, or doing it at all.
00:33 - Owluminati: I don't think they should be punished, institutionalized, or hurt for feeling the way they do, but I sure as fuck don't think it needs to be glorified.
00:35 - Spinecone: M'kay, so you just think you know better than they do about what they should do with themselves, and thus seem to feel entitled to spew venom at the instaed of resonable, calm, points.
00:35 - Spinecone: I mean you don't HAVE to not be a cunt, but it helps.
00:35 - Owluminati: Are -you- transgender?
00:35 - Owluminati: Is that what this is?
00:35 - Spinecone: I am not. Why do you care?
00:35 - Spinecone: What does it change?
00:35 - Owluminati: Because like I said, I don't go out of the way to hurt them.
00:36 - Owluminati: I don't mock them, I don't insult them, I'm as polite to them as I am to anyone else.
00:36 - Owluminati: I keep my opinions private most of the time.
00:36 - Owluminati: I have had several transgender friends.
00:36 - Spinecone: "surgical abominations"
00:36 - Spinecone: "surgically mutilated.
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00:36 - Owluminati: Literally every one of them was totally fucking nuts.
00:36 - Owluminati: It is, dude.
00:37 - Spinecone: " poor bastards,"
00:37 - Owluminati: Yeah, they are poor bastards.
00:37 - Spinecone: "look like a freak afterward."
00:37 - Spinecone: "I don't insult them"
00:37 - Spinecone: Yes.
00:37 - Spinecone: Yes the fuck you do.
00:37 - Owluminati: Most do, especially men who transition to women.
00:37 - Spinecone: I literally have the quote.
00:37 - Owluminati: To their faces, no.
00:37 - Owluminati: But I'm allowed to have my opinion in private.
00:39 - Spinecone: Sure. Same as I'm allowed to think you're just being an absolute cunt to people who're having a shit time, have something against them because they don't conform to your idea of what "should" be and then have the gall, the sheer fucking NERVE, no goddamn less.
00:39 - Spinecone: To veil it with the "I just feel bad for them" argument
00:39 - Owluminati: I do. What's happening to these people is a damn shame.
00:40 - Spinecone: I think you're lying. To me, or yourself, I don't know.
00:40 - Owluminati: I don't hate them. I really don't.
00:40 - Owluminati: I hate the ideologues, but I don't hate them.
00:40 - Spinecone: Because for someone concerned for the, you're spewing enough venom to melt a tank hull.
00:40 - Spinecone: Oh, fuck off with that shit. Now we're into love the sinner hate the sin territory.
00:40 - Spinecone: "Oh I feel sorry for these poor people who haven't seen our light yet, they're just too stupid to agree with us yet."
00:40 - Spinecone: Do you know.
00:40 - Spinecone: Motherfucker.
00:41 - Spinecone: Who else acts like that?
00:41 - Spinecone: Because it's the same people tyou rail against
00:41 - Spinecone: The SJW crowd you're so fond of bashing
00:41 - Spinecone: It's the same tactics, the same methods.
00:41 - Owluminati: ... How exactly? All I've done is talk to you.
00:42 - Owluminati: I'm not out there protesting or writing angry blog posts or trying to ruin somebody's fucking life.
00:42 - Owluminati: This shit is between me and you. I'm talking to a friend.
00:42 - Owluminati: If anybody is acting SJWlike, it's you, since you're chewing the fucking hide out of me for having a "wrong" opinion.
00:43 - Owluminati: You can -tolerate- things without -liking- them.
00:43 - Owluminati: You don't have to -like- everything.
00:43 - Spinecone: Sure. But when push comes to shove, you're taking a stance of "Fuck these people who make a choice I don't agree with because it damages my view of what's normal, which I'm going to cling too until the bridge slips underwater because I'm right and you're goddamn wrong, and I'm sorry you're too stupid to see my point of view, but it's okay, I'll forgive you for not being like me."
00:43 - Spinecone: And that's exactly what the people you profess to hate do.
00:44 - Owluminati: No, the people I hate scream oppression, threaten people, and ruin fucking lives.
00:44 - Owluminati: I don't. I don't talk shit about people in public.
00:44 - Owluminati: Not unless they start something.
00:44 - Owluminati: But just because I'm polite enough to keep my fucking mouth shut in public doesn't mean I agree with it.