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- [20:08:35] Sakurei Miyaguchi: this random scrub is better than at my IN extra
- [20:08:39] Sakurei Miyaguchi: How does that even work
- [20:08:50] Bakeneko: Skill?
- [20:09:05] Sakurei Miyaguchi: But then I should be better
- [20:09:27] NC | D-BooN: ît's because you can't cap fujiyama volcano
- [20:09:35] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I guess
- [20:11:44] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: obviously you didn't score WR while doing NMNB
- [20:11:46] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: obviously.
- [20:12:00] Sakurei Miyaguchi: That has to be the reason I couldn't get NMNB, totally
- [20:12:11] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I relaxed too much on Fujiyama so I died etc
- [20:12:57] Bakeneko: What is NMNB?
- [20:13:03] Sakurei Miyaguchi: no miss no bomb
- [20:13:18] Sakurei Miyaguchi: some people call it burfegt
- [20:13:54] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: It's not worthy of being burfegt if it doesn't graze as much as possible and score as much as possible, you can't just leave those things behind and only go with no misses and no bombs!!!
- [20:14:01] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: either way, runs.
- [20:14:05] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Well
- [20:14:07] Sakurei Miyaguchi: To be fair
- [20:14:31] Sakurei Miyaguchi: My run still score almost 1b more than the NMNB that guy submitted and it would have been over 1b if I hadn't gotten hit so it scores a little bit
- [20:17:33] Bakeneko: I have never understood scoring in touhou games. I understood that it's fun to achieve something and that it's fun to have little competion, but otherwise i don't understand it.
- [20:18:18] Japowpow: more fun than simply just surviving
- [20:18:33] KirbyComment: tfw I have no competition in SoEW
- [20:18:38] Sakurei Miyaguchi: IN extra survival puts me to sleep but scoring it is fun
- [20:18:57] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Though idk about 2.7 being pure survival w
- [20:20:00] Bakeneko: Well i think it's only fun to play touhou by just trying to beat them :3
- [20:20:17] Sakurei Miyaguchi: How do you know it's only fun then
- [20:20:21] KirbyComment: You'll think otherwise soon enough
- [20:20:28] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Have you tried scoring every game and hated them all?
- [20:20:35] Bakeneko: Well no
- [20:20:44] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Kirby, nah. Some people never go past survival stuff
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- [20:20:58] KirbyComment: I'm just hopeful okay ;w;
- [20:21:06] Sakurei Miyaguchi: w
- [20:21:13] Bakeneko: But do i even need to think about score?
- [20:21:32] Japowpow: not if you don't want to
- [20:21:39] KirbyComment: Scoring can seem intimidating
- [20:21:55] KirbyComment: If that's what makes you say that
- [20:22:01] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Eh
- [20:22:08] Sakurei Miyaguchi: It only is if you shoot to high from the get go
- [20:22:16] Bakeneko: No. I just don't understand it clearly.
- [20:22:34] Sakurei Miyaguchi: obviously because you haven't tried to understand it
- [20:22:47] KirbyComment: Well then that's because you either haven't played the games enough or don't pay attention to the scoring mechanics
- [20:22:58] Bakeneko: sakurei2 - Tänään 21.22
- > obviously because you haven't tried to understand it
- How do you know it?
- [20:23:37] Sakurei Miyaguchi: because not understanding how any game works, especially considering how simple some of them are, isn't something that happens when you look into the system
- [20:24:52] Bakeneko: I just find scoring useless to me
- [20:25:45] Eric (That Pearlescent kid): I plan to eventually score, however not for a while
- [20:26:28] Sakurei Miyaguchi: well, to efficiently score you do need some kind of base level
- [20:26:42] Sakurei Miyaguchi: If you start out trying to get as many points as possible you're going to just do shit
- [20:27:02] Sakurei Miyaguchi: So doing regular 1ccs first and then think about points is the more logical approach
- [20:27:03] KirbyComment: I do scoring in alot of games, though I only consider myself to score in SoEW, PoDD and LLS
- [20:27:07] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Unless you're chum I guess
- [20:27:30] KirbyComment: Other games I just kind of score for fun with the bare basics and no risky strats
- [20:27:49] KirbyComment: Like in EoSD Normal I have 170 mil
- [20:28:11] KirbyComment: That's not good, but it's still decent considering I don't practice and just do things on the spot
- [20:29:34] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Man, I'm sometimes told my scores are good for the small amount of time invested but I don't understand this
- [20:29:38] Sakurei Miyaguchi: A score is either good or not
- [20:29:50] Sakurei Miyaguchi: It shouldn't matter how much time was put into it
- [20:30:18] Japowpow: they're just saying it's impressive you were able to reach it faster than most other people would
- [20:30:39] KirbyComment: I guess it's the dedication that really decides how good your scores will be, regardless of the time spent
- [20:30:55] KirbyComment: And I guess it also kinda depends on the game
- [20:31:00] Sakurei Miyaguchi: First credit superplay is as good as the same score that good 1000 hours
- [20:31:10] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Time is irrelevant
- [20:48:01] Mino: I thought since you were Sakurei nothing you ever did could be good
- [20:48:11] Mino: So it doesn't matter how many hours you put in, it's still shit right? Always.
- [20:48:19] Mino: www
- [20:48:21] Bakeneko: Hi~
- [20:48:28] Mino: Hey
- [20:48:33] Mino: qt
- [20:48:54] Bakeneko: People seem to use w sometimes
- [20:49:00] Sakurei Miyaguchi: my extra score is pretty good
- [20:49:02] Bakeneko: Does it have a meaning?
- [20:49:05] Sakurei Miyaguchi: But my other scores really aren't
- [20:49:07] Eric (That Pearlescent kid): Idk what w means either neko
- [20:49:09] Mino: w = lol in japanese
- [20:49:15] Bakeneko: Aah
- [20:49:34] Mino: lol is too mainstream so I use w to be weeb and edgy
- [20:50:59] Sakurei Miyaguchi: There is nothing edgy about w
- [20:51:18] Mino: wwwwwwwww
- [20:51:41] Bakeneko: Well it has edges :3
- [20:51:45] Eric (That Pearlescent kid): ow the edge
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- [21:00:52] Vincent ZM: "this random scrub is better than at my IN extra"
- Yats isn't a scrub tho
- [21:01:02] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I watched him play
- [21:01:07] Sakurei Miyaguchi: That's scrubplay m8
- [21:01:32] Bakeneko: But isn't that an opinion?
- [21:01:40] Sakurei Miyaguchi: It is
- [21:02:06] Bakeneko: And what defines scrubplay?
- [21:02:09 | Edited 21:02:21] NC | D-BooN: I am objectively a scrub
- [21:02:24] Sakurei Miyaguchi: It varies from person to person
- [21:02:36] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Some people think hard mode 1ccs are amazing things
- [21:03:07] Bakeneko: But they are in my opinion.
- [21:03:18] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I'm a scrub. ;_____;
- [21:03:28] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: had a run going on and then I decided to graze Yuki&Mai's last
- [21:03:31] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: 5 lives lost to that
- [21:03:32] Bakeneko: No you aren't Zig
- [21:03:34] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: how did I even do that
- [21:03:37] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: ;________;
- [21:04:01] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Idk I think having a few LNBs is just barely not a scrub anymore tier
- [21:04:36] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: That was pretty shitty tho'
- [21:04:44] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I was already arguing wether I should graze that or not
- [21:04:54] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Everyone has moment of pure shit
- [21:04:59] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: seems like I just shouldn't unless the score improvements calls for it
- [21:05:04] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: yeah, I know
- [21:05:07] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I was kind of satirical
- [21:05:08] Bakeneko: Failing is not a bad thing
- [21:05:22 | Edited 21:05:33] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: Yuki&Mai's last can actually be really kowaii
- [21:05:29] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: really, really kowaii ;___;
- [21:05:50] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: although
- [21:05:58] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I did atleast set a savestate at them
- [21:06:14] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: before I started at them, so I can probably make savestates for stuff after them now too.
- [21:06:14] Mino: [21:00] Sakurei Miyaguchi:
- <<< I watched him play
- That's scrubplay m8Um... I'm pretty sure he's IN this group
- [21:07:13] Vincent ZM: He is. :p
- [21:07:35] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I don't care
- [21:07:37] Mino: Which means you effectively called him a scrub right in front of his face where he can read it
- [21:07:44] Sakurei Miyaguchi: So?
- [21:07:46] Mino: I'm just letting you know. If you don't care it's fine.
- [21:07:53] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Okay
- [21:07:58] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I figured he was in this group
- [21:08:02] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Everyone is in this group
- [21:10:32] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: Well, you're kind of calling someone a scrub out of the blue, a little bit condescending. =3=
- [21:10:32] Vincent ZM: Hmm, maybe you could be a little more respectful, though...
- [21:10:46] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I call almost everyone a scrub
- [21:10:55] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: Do you call yourself a scrub too?!
- [21:10:55] Bakeneko: Sakurei can i ask you something little personal?
- [21:11:01] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I do
- [21:11:02] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Yeah, go ahead
- [21:11:13] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: Wow, the scrub song needs to feature everyone as a scrub
- [21:11:17] Bakeneko: Are you passive agressive personality?
- [21:11:19] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: literally everyone
- [21:11:28] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I am not a passive aggressive personality.
- [21:11:34] Bakeneko: Oh
- [21:11:39 | Edited 21:11:51] Bakeneko: Never mind then
- [21:13:58] Alzack: he's pretty actively aggressive I'd say
- [21:14:51] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Idk if aggressive is the right word but I guess it's not completely wrong
- [21:15:12] Alzack: well, I suppose "blunt" is a better word for it
- [21:15:17] Vincent ZM: Verily blunt, I'd say.
- [21:15:33] Prayerchum: going around and telling people they're random scrubs is just his strategy to give them more motivation to come back with a vengeance as superplayers
- [21:15:35] Prayerchum: right, sakurei?
- [21:15:41] Alzack: how noble
- [21:15:42] Sakurei Miyaguchi: absolutely
- [21:15:46] Prayerchum: it's constructive!
- [21:16:04] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: oh wow
- [21:16:21] Vincent ZM: constructive criticism is best criticism :P
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