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  1. [20:08:35] Sakurei Miyaguchi: this random scrub is better than at my IN extra
  2. [20:08:39] Sakurei Miyaguchi: How does that even work
  3. [20:08:50] Bakeneko: Skill?
  4. [20:09:05] Sakurei Miyaguchi: But then I should be better
  5. [20:09:27] NC | D-BooN: ît's because you can't cap fujiyama volcano
  6. [20:09:35] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I guess
  7. [20:11:44] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: obviously you didn't score WR while doing NMNB
  8. [20:11:46] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: obviously.
  9. [20:12:00] Sakurei Miyaguchi: That has to be the reason I couldn't get NMNB, totally
  10. [20:12:11] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I relaxed too much on Fujiyama so I died etc
  11. [20:12:57] Bakeneko: What is NMNB?
  12. [20:13:03] Sakurei Miyaguchi: no miss no bomb
  13. [20:13:18] Sakurei Miyaguchi: some people call it burfegt
  14. [20:13:54] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: It's not worthy of being burfegt if it doesn't graze as much as possible and score as much as possible, you can't just leave those things behind and only go with no misses and no bombs!!!
  15. [20:14:01] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: either way, runs.
  16. [20:14:05] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Well
  17. [20:14:07] Sakurei Miyaguchi: To be fair
  18. [20:14:31] Sakurei Miyaguchi: My run still score almost 1b more than the NMNB that guy submitted and it would have been over 1b if I hadn't gotten hit so it scores a little bit
  19. [20:17:33] Bakeneko: I have never understood scoring in touhou games. I understood that it's fun to achieve something and that it's fun to have little competion, but otherwise i don't understand it.
  20. [20:18:18] Japowpow: more fun than simply just surviving
  21. [20:18:33] KirbyComment: tfw I have no competition in SoEW
  22. [20:18:38] Sakurei Miyaguchi: IN extra survival puts me to sleep but scoring it is fun
  23. [20:18:57] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Though idk about 2.7 being pure survival w
  24. [20:20:00] Bakeneko: Well i think it's only fun to play touhou by just trying to beat them :3
  25. [20:20:17] Sakurei Miyaguchi: How do you know it's only fun then
  26. [20:20:21] KirbyComment: You'll think otherwise soon enough
  27. [20:20:28] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Have you tried scoring every game and hated them all?
  28. [20:20:35] Bakeneko: Well no
  29. [20:20:44] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Kirby, nah. Some people never go past survival stuff
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  32. [20:20:58] KirbyComment: I'm just hopeful okay ;w;
  33. [20:21:06] Sakurei Miyaguchi: w
  34. [20:21:13] Bakeneko: But do i even need to think about score?
  35. [20:21:32] Japowpow: not if you don't want to
  36. [20:21:39] KirbyComment: Scoring can seem intimidating
  37. [20:21:55] KirbyComment: If that's what makes you say that
  38. [20:22:01] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Eh
  39. [20:22:08] Sakurei Miyaguchi: It only is if you shoot to high from the get go
  40. [20:22:16] Bakeneko: No. I just don't understand it clearly.
  41. [20:22:34] Sakurei Miyaguchi: obviously because you haven't tried to understand it
  42. [20:22:47] KirbyComment: Well then that's because you either haven't played the games enough or don't pay attention to the scoring mechanics
  43. [20:22:58] Bakeneko: sakurei2 - Tänään 21.22
  44. > obviously because you haven't tried to understand it
  45. How do you know it?
  46. [20:23:37] Sakurei Miyaguchi: because not understanding how any game works, especially considering how simple some of them are, isn't something that happens when you look into the system
  47. [20:24:52] Bakeneko: I just find scoring useless to me
  48. [20:25:45] Eric (That Pearlescent kid): I plan to eventually score, however not for a while
  49. [20:26:28] Sakurei Miyaguchi: well, to efficiently score you do need some kind of base level
  50. [20:26:42] Sakurei Miyaguchi: If you start out trying to get as many points as possible you're going to just do shit
  51. [20:27:02] Sakurei Miyaguchi: So doing regular 1ccs first and then think about points is the more logical approach
  52. [20:27:03] KirbyComment: I do scoring in alot of games, though I only consider myself to score in SoEW, PoDD and LLS
  53. [20:27:07] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Unless you're chum I guess
  54. [20:27:30] KirbyComment: Other games I just kind of score for fun with the bare basics and no risky strats
  55. [20:27:49] KirbyComment: Like in EoSD Normal I have 170 mil
  56. [20:28:11] KirbyComment: That's not good, but it's still decent considering I don't practice and just do things on the spot
  57. [20:29:34] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Man, I'm sometimes told my scores are good for the small amount of time invested but I don't understand this
  58. [20:29:38] Sakurei Miyaguchi: A score is either good or not
  59. [20:29:50] Sakurei Miyaguchi: It shouldn't matter how much time was put into it
  60. [20:30:18] Japowpow: they're just saying it's impressive you were able to reach it faster than most other people would
  61. [20:30:39] KirbyComment: I guess it's the dedication that really decides how good your scores will be, regardless of the time spent
  62. [20:30:55] KirbyComment: And I guess it also kinda depends on the game
  63. [20:31:00] Sakurei Miyaguchi: First credit superplay is as good as the same score that good 1000 hours
  64. [20:31:10] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Time is irrelevant
  65. [20:48:01] Mino: I thought since you were Sakurei nothing you ever did could be good
  66. [20:48:11] Mino: So it doesn't matter how many hours you put in, it's still shit right? Always.
  67. [20:48:19] Mino: www
  68. [20:48:21] Bakeneko: Hi~
  69. [20:48:28] Mino: Hey
  70. [20:48:33] Mino: qt
  71. [20:48:54] Bakeneko: People seem to use w sometimes
  72. [20:49:00] Sakurei Miyaguchi: my extra score is pretty good
  73. [20:49:02] Bakeneko: Does it have a meaning?
  74. [20:49:05] Sakurei Miyaguchi: But my other scores really aren't
  75. [20:49:07] Eric (That Pearlescent kid): Idk what w means either neko
  76. [20:49:09] Mino: w = lol in japanese
  77. [20:49:15] Bakeneko: Aah
  78. [20:49:34] Mino: lol is too mainstream so I use w to be weeb and edgy
  79. [20:50:59] Sakurei Miyaguchi: There is nothing edgy about w
  80. [20:51:18] Mino: wwwwwwwww
  81. [20:51:41] Bakeneko: Well it has edges :3
  82. [20:51:45] Eric (That Pearlescent kid): ow the edge
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  85. [21:00:52] Vincent ZM: "this random scrub is better than at my IN extra"
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  87. Yats isn't a scrub tho
  88. [21:01:02] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I watched him play
  89. [21:01:07] Sakurei Miyaguchi: That's scrubplay m8
  90. [21:01:32] Bakeneko: But isn't that an opinion?
  91. [21:01:40] Sakurei Miyaguchi: It is
  92. [21:02:06] Bakeneko: And what defines scrubplay?
  93. [21:02:09 | Edited 21:02:21] NC | D-BooN: I am objectively a scrub
  94. [21:02:24] Sakurei Miyaguchi: It varies from person to person
  95. [21:02:36] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Some people think hard mode 1ccs are amazing things
  96. [21:03:07] Bakeneko: But they are in my opinion.
  97. [21:03:18] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I'm a scrub. ;_____;
  98. [21:03:28] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: had a run going on and then I decided to graze Yuki&Mai's last
  99. [21:03:31] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: 5 lives lost to that
  100. [21:03:32] Bakeneko: No you aren't Zig
  101. [21:03:34] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: how did I even do that
  102. [21:03:37] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: ;________;
  103. [21:04:01] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Idk I think having a few LNBs is just barely not a scrub anymore tier
  104. [21:04:36] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: That was pretty shitty tho'
  105. [21:04:44] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I was already arguing wether I should graze that or not
  106. [21:04:54] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Everyone has moment of pure shit
  107. [21:04:59] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: seems like I just shouldn't unless the score improvements calls for it
  108. [21:05:04] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: yeah, I know
  109. [21:05:07] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I was kind of satirical
  110. [21:05:08] Bakeneko: Failing is not a bad thing
  111. [21:05:22 | Edited 21:05:33] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: Yuki&Mai's last can actually be really kowaii
  112. [21:05:29] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: really, really kowaii ;___;
  113. [21:05:50] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: although
  114. [21:05:58] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: I did atleast set a savestate at them
  115. [21:06:14] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: before I started at them, so I can probably make savestates for stuff after them now too.
  116. [21:06:14] Mino: [21:00] Sakurei Miyaguchi:
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  118. <<< I watched him play
  119. That's scrubplay m8Um... I'm pretty sure he's IN this group
  120. [21:07:13] Vincent ZM: He is. :p
  121. [21:07:35] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I don't care
  122. [21:07:37] Mino: Which means you effectively called him a scrub right in front of his face where he can read it
  123. [21:07:44] Sakurei Miyaguchi: So?
  124. [21:07:46] Mino: I'm just letting you know. If you don't care it's fine.
  125. [21:07:53] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Okay
  126. [21:07:58] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I figured he was in this group
  127. [21:08:02] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Everyone is in this group
  128. [21:10:32] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: Well, you're kind of calling someone a scrub out of the blue, a little bit condescending. =3=
  129. [21:10:32] Vincent ZM: Hmm, maybe you could be a little more respectful, though...
  130. [21:10:46] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I call almost everyone a scrub
  131. [21:10:55] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: Do you call yourself a scrub too?!
  132. [21:10:55] Bakeneko: Sakurei can i ask you something little personal?
  133. [21:11:01] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I do
  134. [21:11:02] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Yeah, go ahead
  135. [21:11:13] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: Wow, the scrub song needs to feature everyone as a scrub
  136. [21:11:17] Bakeneko: Are you passive agressive personality?
  137. [21:11:19] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: literally everyone
  138. [21:11:28] Sakurei Miyaguchi: I am not a passive aggressive personality.
  139. [21:11:34] Bakeneko: Oh
  140. [21:11:39 | Edited 21:11:51] Bakeneko: Never mind then
  141. [21:13:58] Alzack: he's pretty actively aggressive I'd say
  142. [21:14:51] Sakurei Miyaguchi: Idk if aggressive is the right word but I guess it's not completely wrong
  143. [21:15:12] Alzack: well, I suppose "blunt" is a better word for it
  144. [21:15:17] Vincent ZM: Verily blunt, I'd say.
  145. [21:15:33] Prayerchum: going around and telling people they're random scrubs is just his strategy to give them more motivation to come back with a vengeance as superplayers
  146. [21:15:35] Prayerchum: right, sakurei?
  147. [21:15:41] Alzack: how noble
  148. [21:15:42] Sakurei Miyaguchi: absolutely
  149. [21:15:46] Prayerchum: it's constructive!
  150. [21:16:04] ZIG's Kurumi <3333: oh wow
  151. [21:16:21] Vincent ZM: constructive criticism is best criticism :P
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