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  1. ‘Rick and Morty’ Artists Push to Unionize Their Show—And Succeed (cartoonbrew.com)
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  3. submitted 5 hours ago by bluenowait
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  13. [–]justinroilandR&M Co-Creator 48 points49 points50 points 2 hours ago (7 children)
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  15. Just want to comment on this. I care about the crew. I would bend over backwards to make sure they are happy. The problem here is that the union went after the OLD studio (Starburns) and the new studio (Rick and Morty LLC) had no idea. By the time we found out about this the union was strong arming the crew to walk out. We had almost no time to put together a deal with the union. It was incredibly stressful and absolutely unnecessary. To put a deal together over a weekend is just nuts. We would have landed on just as good a deal regardless of this gross time limit put upon us by the union. It left a really bad taste in my mouth. I am happy the crew has benefits and all the other perks that come with unionization, I just don't like how the whole thing went down. It was unprofessional and not needed. I love my crew and want them happy and am constantly in awe of their talent, dedication, and hard work BUT FUCK THE UNION. Get some better business ethics. You came off desperate and indecent. Not every production needs to be treated like monsters. Especially one that is RUN by the two creators and our line producer.
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  19. [–]carlfartlord 6 points7 points8 points 1 hour ago (1 child)
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  21. It's cool Justin, we know you would lick a million ballsacks if it would make your crew happier.
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  26. [–]robotortoise 1 point2 points3 points 20 minutes ago (0 children)
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  28. Lick my balls Morty!
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  33. [–]fraac 0 points1 point2 points 22 minutes ago (0 children)
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  35. It's a sad world where people can't just talk to their bosses.
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  40. [–]cavenator 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago (0 children)
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  42. Yes. Unions suck. My acting union doesn't let me work unless it's a union gig. I don't even get benefits. Pfft. Glad you pulled through though! Really excited for the new season!
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  47. [–]hazwoper -2 points-1 points0 points 23 minutes ago (2 children)
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  49. Wait, are you in a management position on the show? It sounds like they just didn't know who was handling the the show and filed a complaint against the wrong company by accident. How did they know Starburns wasn't affiliated? Like, did they know? Also, it sounds like they weren't getting paid union rates and didn't have health insurance, which seems like basic standard rates for animators working on one of the biggest/most popular animation shows on air right now.
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  54. [–]YouAreSoLying 1 point2 points3 points 15 minutes ago (1 child)
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  56. Umm did you read his username and flair?
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  61. [–]hazwoper 0 points1 point2 points 4 minutes ago (0 children)
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  63. Oh. Eeesh. Nope. Would've helped. I need to download the reddit app so I can see vital details like that. Questions still stand, though. I could be wrong totally because I don't know how a studio totally functions.
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  68. [–]justinroilandR&M Co-Creator 31 points32 points33 points 2 hours ago (2 children)
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  70. I also had no idea anyone was unhappy. No one told me anything. One minute it's just work as usual, the next minute there's a walk out. Okay. Cool. Those union reps really know how to get people worked up and pissed off. Again, totally unnecessary on a show like ours. I LOVE AND CARE ABOUT MY CREW. If I knew they were unhappy we would have done something about it.
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  74. [–]BeGodlike 6 points7 points8 points 2 hours ago (0 children)
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  76. I know you have nothing but love for the show, and it's crew. It reflects on the quality of your content, but they may have been scared that they would lose their benefits, and instead of talking to you first, they went to the union. I don't advocate for unions, but they are necessary for extreme situations. I agree, it was very unprofessional for them to force something like that with no regards to their creative director, but it may be possible that fear makes humans act brash, and illogically?
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  81. [–]theshevegas 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago (0 children)
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  83. The only interaction I've ever had with a union rep was in one of my college classes. She was a student and her intro was basically yelling at her classmates about the necessity of joining a union and how if we didn't, the whole city would go to hell in a hand basket and it was people like her that kept things running smoothly. It was very disconcerting. I love the show and from what I've seen, you're pretty passionate about your work and I could see how caring for your crew would be a big deal to you in order to keep things running smoothly. I'm sorry that you've had to deal with this and I hope there's no lasting tension or issues that either your or the crew will have to deal with in the future.
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  88. [–]manofthe90sB[🍰] 2 points3 points4 points 1 hour ago (0 children)
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  90. The show is fantastic, approaching the union likely felt less uncomfortable for the crew than approaching the company directly. The guilds can also be opportunistic when organizing. Strong measures are probably good press for them.
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  94. [–]Fourwinds 6 points7 points8 points 1 hour ago* (1 child)
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  96. There's a slightly more detailed account here, to be taken with however many grains of salt you like: http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/rick-and-morty.html
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  98. From the blog post:
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  100. "The way this went down:
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  102. 1) "Rick and Morty" crew is unhappy with working without a TAG contract. Contacts the Animation Guild.
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  104. 2) Guild springs into action collecting representation cards from crew, communicating with "R & M" artists, etc.
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  106. 3) Guild files with the NLRB (that's the National Labor Relations Board, for those who struggle with acronyms). In the course of e-mails and phone calls to the Board, the Animation Guild discovers that "Rick and Morty" (Season #2), is being done under a different corporate entity than "Rick and Morty" (Season #1). And we have the wrong company listed on the g.d. rep cards.
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  108. 4) Guild springs into action again, and calls a meeting of the crew to explain the situation. It is noted that time is of the essence. (Season #2 will wrap in a couple of months). Crew votes to hit the bricks in order to get a contract.
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  110. 5) Company finds out how crew has voted. Company becomes concerned. Company dispatches lawyer to talk to the Animation Guild about a contract.
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  112. 6) Contract talks begin on Friday September 5th, going over the weekend and concluding on Monday, September 8th. Guild takes contract proposal from company to crew on Monday morning. Crew, standing on sidewalk, votes to ratify contract proposal, which includes retroactive payments for wages, also pension and health benefits.
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  114. 7) The Era of Good Feeling begins."
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  118. [–]justinroilandR&M Co-Creator 0 points1 point2 points 3 minutes ago (0 children)
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  120. Just want to add that the union never once reached out to my line producer (who would be the rep for Rick and Morty LLC)
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  122. They went right to encouraging the crew to walk out. One of our awesome crew people who didn't drink the union rage cool aid approached the wound up union reps and begged them to just call the my line producer and actually talk about a negotiating deal.
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  124. So they did. And said "we want a deal done today" on the FIRST conversation ever held with the new studio. What heroes.
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