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/jp/ MMO threads are getting pushed to /vg/

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  1. (21:13:31) +AoC: as for what we want, is just a mod post we can point to while deleting so we can avoid useless meta
  2. (21:13:42) +AoC: last MMO thread was 200+ posts of derail
  3. (21:13:58) +Azatsu: Okay then, so
  4. (21:13:59) +AoC: and the fact that the shitposters are heavily involved just makes things harder
  5. (21:14:02) %kdel: i'm leaning on the side of just putting them on /vg/
  6. (21:14:10) +Azatsu: I think it's a better idea too
  7. (21:14:36) +Azatsu: But I think we should ask them
  8. (21:14:46) +Azatsu: maybe a new thread with a mod post opening would be a good idea
  9. (21:15:13) +Azatsu: You could also give them your opinion on why they should be moved to /vg/
  10. (21:15:17) +Azatsu: and then ask them to reach a decision
  11. (21:15:30) +AoC: I'm for allowed them while contained and in moderation
  12. (21:15:36) %kdel: i think people have discussed enough
  13. (21:15:39) +Azatsu: Oh
  14. (21:15:42) +AoC: *allowing
  15. (21:15:44) %kdel: anymore isn't going to help them reach a decision
  16. (21:15:51) +Azatsu: So what do you suggest?
  17. (21:15:57) +Azatsu: Just say "hi guys go to /vg/ please"
  18. (21:16:00) +Azatsu: ?
  19. (21:16:08) +Azatsu: Not saying I disagree, just want to know
  20. (21:16:36) %kdel: yes, pretty much, but before then i want to see what the people who actually moderate /jp/, the janitors, think
  21. (21:16:55) +AoC: "Video game chained threads belong in /vg/. We have listened to you to reach this decision, please provide feedback on how it works over time"
  22. (21:17:05) +Azatsu: I think
  23. (21:17:08) +Azatsu: that this looks better
  24. (21:17:17) +Azatsu: Honestly AoC we're pushing our limits and you did know what happened to AT threads
  25. (21:17:18) +Azatsu: they didn't last
  26. (21:17:22) +Azatsu: and don't go with this Sai thing
  27. (21:17:23) +Azatsu: again
  28. (21:17:25) +Azatsu: They died, end
  29. (21:17:27) +Azatsu: Period
  30. (21:17:37) +Azatsu: /vg/ was a blight upon /jp/ and a miracle upon /v/
  31. (21:17:52) +Azatsu: Can't be helped, that's how I see it
  32. (21:17:58) +AoC: we have larger issues in /jp/ rather than a single borderline thread I think
  33. (21:18:18) +AoC: but yeah, take them or leave them, it's not going to make much of a difference
  34. (21:18:32) +AoC: the only thing I really hate about pushing them to /vg/ is that
  35. (21:18:36) +Azatsu: Look, my idea is the following them
  36. (21:18:38) +AoC: we ended up caving in to the spammers
  37. (21:18:38) +Azatsu: *then
  38. (21:18:48) +Azatsu: Actually they have a point and they didn't spam, only one guy spammed
  39. (21:19:20) +Azatsu: To move them to /vg/, except when the MMO is actually japanese-only and/or doujinsoft
  40. (21:19:24) +Azatsu: What do you think, AoC?
  41. (21:19:50) +AoC: is there even doujin MMO out there being discussed?
  42. (21:20:05) +Azatsu: not discussed
  43. (21:20:07) +Azatsu: but there are a few
  44. (21:20:09) +AoC: I said this in the thread, arbitrary limits are dumb if they don't follow what the users want to talk about
  45. (21:20:38) +Azatsu: And they are already covered under the rules
  46. (21:20:41) +Azatsu: So what's your proposition
  47. (21:20:47) +Azatsu: Are you really willing to take them if they are in moderation
  48. (21:21:20) +AoC: that's how I've always rolled. If a topic is not spammed and has people interested enough to discuss it then it doesn't harm the board
  49. (21:21:31) +Azatsu: Eeh...
  50. (21:21:32) VCR_Working: i think one of the biggest problems is they don't know what 'in moderation' is
  51. (21:21:41) +Azatsu: I'm still worried
  52. (21:21:47) +Azatsu: users seem to be wanting to push them off the board
  53. (21:21:52) +Azatsu: and you know, that policy for AT didn't really work
  54. (21:22:00) +AoC: users or bored spammers is the question
  55. (21:22:03) +Azatsu: they ended up leaving, and they were allowed to stay in moderation
  56. (21:22:22) +AoC: we're having this discussion because a guy kept pushing 17 reports on the thread
  57. (21:22:23) +Azatsu: it didn't work the first time, I think we shouldn't repeat the same error
  58. (21:22:48) +AoC: what failed with AT was a mod making a post about it without consulting the board
  59. (21:22:52) +Azatsu: yeah but if you scroll on the MMO threads you will see american MMOs and shit like that
  60. (21:22:59) +AoC: another mod corrected it, but the damage was done
  61. (21:23:01) +Azatsu: So AoC, tell me
  62. (21:23:10) +AoC: and right now we have an ongoing AT thread, so yeah
  63. (21:23:16) +Azatsu: What was the conclusion of the users?
  64. (21:23:26) +Azatsu: yeah, they are awfully rare though
  65. (21:23:31) +AoC: "we don't really care that much, it's one thread"
  66. (21:23:41) +AoC: or at least that's how I feel the board thinks
  67. (21:23:59) +Azatsu: Ho boy, I guess I'm reading 300 posts.
  68. (21:24:01) %kdel: alright, i'm just gonna back this rule then
  69. (21:24:05) %kdel: http://boards.4chan.org/q/res/265574#p266407
  70. (21:24:14) %kdel: i think it makes the most amount of sense
  71. (21:24:21) +Azatsu: not a bad idea
  72. (21:24:46) +Azatsu: AoC
  73. (21:24:55) +Azatsu: We can't let them keep talking about shit like wizardy
  74. (21:25:08) +AoC: I still think the arbitrary limitation against korean MMO is pointless
  75. (21:25:24) +Azatsu: But it's korean man
  76. [...]
  77. (21:28:16) %kdel: i'm gonna go against the korean thing
  78. (21:28:22) %kdel: i think /vg/ is already fine for those
  79. (21:28:50) +Azatsu: I think so to
  80. (21:29:46) +AoC: I think we might be dividing the userbase arbitrarily like this, but it does feel like the most rational thing
  81. [...]
  82. (21:31:33) +AoC: So Azatsu, since I'm not familiar with MMO
  83. (21:31:40) +AoC: what list of games are allowed?
  84. (21:32:11) +Azatsu: I'm not familiar with MMO too
  85. (21:32:14) +Azatsu: I'm familiar with doujin games
  86. (21:32:22) +Azatsu: doujin works in general
  87. (21:32:26) +Azatsu: but not MMOs
  88. (21:32:53) +AoC: I don't even think you can make a large scale game like an MMO as a doujin group
  89. (21:33:51) +Azatsu: There's one
  90. (21:33:57) +Azatsu: Not exactly an MMO
  91. (21:33:59) +Azatsu: but an online game
  92. (21:34:01) +Azatsu: Elona
  93. (21:34:41) +Azatsu: There must be one or two doujin MMOs around, if you search long enough
  94. (21:34:41) +AoC: anyway, the wording is *preferably* self published
  95. (21:34:51) +AoC: which is a good thing, doujin MMO are just too rare
  96. (21:35:01) +AoC: Japanese MMO should be enough to sustain them
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