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  1. #<#irish#>## how do i even begin to fight sakuyas?#
  2. #<#PhoenixM#>## oh my gosh my favorite matchup
  3. #<#PhoenixM#>## not even kidding
  4. #<#irish#>## seriously?#
  5. #<#irish#>## i cannot fight that at all#
  6. #<#irish#>## the bullet cover blocks me from doing anything#
  7. #<#PhoenixM#>## I enjoy it a lot
  8. #<#irish#>## so how do i approach it?#
  9. #<#PhoenixM#>## get a knockdown
  10. #<#PhoenixM#>## her B murders yours
  11. #<#PhoenixM#>## her 214 clears yours
  12. #<#PhoenixM#>## be careful of jC and j6C
  13. #<#irish#>## well what do with knockdown?#
  14. #<#PhoenixM#>## since j6C can snipe your 5C/jC
  15. #<#PhoenixM#>## her tech distance is the shortest in the game
  16. #<#PhoenixM#>## so your setups become universal
  17. #<#irish#>## bah, a matchup that relies on one thing i cant do well#
  18. #<#irish#>## oki#
  19. #<#irish#>## like, i can put the setups down#
  20. #<#irish#>## but the just jump out#
  21. #<#PhoenixM#>## it's SUPER easy on her
  22. #<#PhoenixM#>## just combo ender, 214C
  23. #<#PhoenixM#>## she's STUCK
  24. #<#PhoenixM#>## and with no DP
  25. #<#PhoenixM#>## and no strong graze attack
  26. #<#irish#>## this is a silly question#
  27. #<#irish#>## but i have lots of problems with it#
  28. #<#irish#>## how do i deal with high jumping out#
  29. #<#PhoenixM#>## where are they jumping?
  30. #<#irish#>## usually either straight up or hj9#
  31. #<#PhoenixM#>## yes, but where
  32. #<#irish#>## oh, out of the corner#
  33. #<#PhoenixM#>## after 5AA? 6A? jumping 6C?
  34. #<#PhoenixM#>## 2A?
  35. #<#irish#>## no like#
  36. #<#irish#>## i knock them down#
  37. #<#irish#>## setup oki#
  38. #<#PhoenixM#>## Oh, just meaty them better
  39. #<#irish#>## they high jump#
  40. #<#PhoenixM#>## watch what your combo ender was
  41. #<#PhoenixM#>## and make sure you do it quickly
  42. #<#irish#>## how do i meaty better?#
  43. #<#irish#>## if im unsure if theyll tech or not?#
  44. #<#PhoenixM#>## you can just wait and watch
  45. #<#PhoenixM#>## or do a setup like j214C
  46. #<#PhoenixM#>## then airdash as you need to on reaction
  47. #<#PhoenixM#>## sakuya though, j2A is a bad move with her 2B being such a good AA
  48. #<#PhoenixM#>## you need to space her really well lol
  49. #<#PhoenixM#>## her mixup is weak
  50. #<#PhoenixM#>## like, block low
  51. #<#PhoenixM#>## what's she going to do for a high?
  52. #<#PhoenixM#>## 66A, f5A, and 5AAA series
  53. #<#PhoenixM#>## 6A is a pretty obvious BE point
  54. #<#PhoenixM#>## but I usually wait for j2A
  55. #<#PhoenixM#>## since she has to risk aerial j623B to catch that
  56. #<#irish#>## so 6A is best BE point?#
  57. #<#PhoenixM#>## [23:45] <PhoenixM> but I usually wait for j2A
  58. #<#PhoenixM#>## [23:45] <PhoenixM> since she has to risk aerial j623B to catch that
  59. #<#irish#>## right, hurr#
  60. #<#PhoenixM#>## oh yeah
  61. #<#PhoenixM#>## her 3A is a high too
  62. #<#PhoenixM#>## but guess what
  63. #<#PhoenixM#>## you want to block it low
  64. #<#irish#>## it whiffs right?#
  65. #<#PhoenixM#>## it only hits once
  66. #<#PhoenixM#>## so canceling is harder for them, and it's worse on block
  67. #<#PhoenixM#>## 6A 6C is a staple pressure tool for sak players
  68. #<#PhoenixM#>## so 6A is an easy place to BE
  69. #<#PhoenixM#>## but you have to make sure
  70. #<#PhoenixM#>## always always always
  71. #<#PhoenixM#>## BE8
  72. #<#PhoenixM#>## NEVER 7
  73. #<#PhoenixM#>## ever
  74. #<#irish#>## oh damn it#
  75. #<#irish#>## ANOTHER BAD HABIT I HAVE TO BREAK#
  76. #<#PhoenixM#>## (unless you are midscreen)
  77. #<#PhoenixM#>## then it's fine
  78. #<#PhoenixM#>## if you BE 7 on sak 6A
  79. #<#PhoenixM#>## she can 3A you before you can move out of the range
  80. #<#irish#>## wait, so if j2a is a good BE point#
  81. #<#irish#>## WHAT DO I DO VS THE AIR 623B#
  82. #<#PhoenixM#>## if she does it
  83. #<#PhoenixM#>## 66A her
  84. #<#PhoenixM#>## but be quick
  85. #<#irish#>## how?#
  86. #<#irish#>## like#
  87. #<#irish#>## the 623b will probably be done by then#
  88. #<#irish#>## i need to high jump out#
  89. #<#irish#>## then land#
  90. #<#irish#>## BE*#
  91. #<#PhoenixM#>## wait, what do you mean
  92. #<#PhoenixM#>## if you BE and the j623
  93. #<#PhoenixM#>## you get hit
  94. #<#irish#>## thats what i meant#
  95. #<#irish#>## so why are you saying#
  96. #<#irish#>## BE on j2a?#
  97. #<#irish#>## if the j623 will hit?#
  98. #<#PhoenixM#>## it's more of a risk for them
  99. #<#PhoenixM#>## and the reward is lower
  100. #<#PhoenixM#>## than 6A
  101. #<#PhoenixM#>## better risk reward on j2A
  102. #<#PhoenixM#>## 6A is pretty okay too, but be careful of falling into a pattern
  103. #<#PhoenixM#>## also
  104. #<#PhoenixM#>## make SURE
  105. #<#PhoenixM#>## you do 5AA 2B 2C j2A 5AAA on her in the corner
  106. #<#PhoenixM#>## it's one of the few it works on
  107. #<#PhoenixM#>## and the damage helps the matchup lol
  108. #<#irish#>## ill test that out then#
  109. #<#PhoenixM#>## 3.5K vs. 2.7K
  110. #<#PhoenixM#>## your choice lol
  111. #<#irish#>## yep#
  112. #<#irish#>## and its braindead easy to do#
  113. #<#PhoenixM#>## YUP
  114. #<#PhoenixM#>## only "problem" is it MUST be corner
  115. #<#PhoenixM#>## also, in pressure
  116. #<#PhoenixM#>## she does have a fast 5A to mash out with
  117. #<#PhoenixM#>## but your ranges are much better than hers
  118. #<#irish#>## how fast?#
  119. #<#PhoenixM#>## space yourself well
  120. #<#PhoenixM#>## I think 7F
  121. #<#irish#>## WELP#
  122. #<#PhoenixM#>## but it's stubby
  123. #<#irish#>## cant mash that one#
  124. #<#PhoenixM#>## so no threat
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