[22:58:14] Person: what you told your friends about 9/11
[22:58:16] Person: tell me
[22:58:18] Person: now
[22:58:35] Me: [22:58] Person:

<<< tell me
nowerm. :|
[22:58:58] Person: you will tell me
[22:59:03] Person: i know you will
[22:59:08] Me: Like that? :D
[22:59:19] Me: Well, What do YOU know on this topic?
[22:59:44] Person: i know that the attack on the pentagon and twin towers was staged
[22:59:49] Person: and I know more
[22:59:58] Person: but you are not worthy to hear it
[23:00:15] Me: [22:59] Person:

<<< but you are not worthy to hear itheh.
[23:00:17] Me: you are funny :D
[23:00:28] Person: but it is true
[23:00:46 | Muudetud - 23:01:34] Person: you are not responsible enough to bear such knowledge
[23:01:36] Me: What do YOU believe?
[23:01:41] Me: and what do YOU know?
[23:01:46] Person: i believe the truth
[23:01:55] Person: and the truth is not meant for your mind
[23:02:02] Me: Ok, so you do not know the truth but you believe in it?
[23:02:15] Person: oh I know the truth
[23:02:29] Person: but it is not mine to give. find out for yourself
[23:02:33] Me: [23:01] Person:

<<< and the truth is not meant for your mindthe truth is a concept , invidual for every person.
[23:02:52] Me: The truth, mostly is about what people believe.
[23:02:55] Person: and that, you fool, is why you cannot know
[23:03:23] Person: no, the truth is a constant. perception isn't. distinguishing the 2 is the difference.
[23:03:26] Me: There are no facts, there are only those theories which are accepted as the truth.
[23:03:39] Person: not true
[23:03:40] Me: or as a fact
[23:04:29] Person: there is a true fact and I know it for sure. that is what makes me worthy to know. whereas you merely theorize, I know for a fact.
[23:05:46] Me: I do not theorize but I do know that everything can be claimed false which makes it a theory from the perspective of the invidual(s).
[23:06:43] Me: and we all are inviduals with their own opinion, often it just happens that an opinion of the majority is taken as a fact.
[23:07:00] Person: so...
[23:07:01] Me: I do know that there ARE facts but often they are NOT those which are told.
[23:07:13] Person: what is your opinion of the 9/11 attack?
[23:07:41] Me: on what layer?
[23:07:50] Person: all layers
[23:08:19] Me: Nah, Ill just start from the "top layer" :P and probably move further
[23:08:21] Me: well...
[23:12:22] Me: If I move out all the theories and think myself as someone having power in a huge country I must be sure that the people have enough 'fun' to keep them away from being interested in my actions, secondly I would make sure that I can keep my power in any kind of situation and to be sure in that I must ensure that there are laws and power in place which stops them from standing up against me. The best way to do that would be to create an attack on my country to show people that the power needs more control over the people so the bad things can't happen again on the people.
[23:12:44] Me: Simple as that, now if we take the 9/11 for example, then what would those in power get from it?
[23:13:32] Me: Well, they would get power, the people will allow us to take away their weapons, their defense
[23:13:40] Person: you think in too small a scale...
[23:13:40] Me: and give them 'circus and bread'
[23:13:45] Person: think of the future
[23:13:49] Me: [23:13] Person:

<<< you think in too small a scale...wait wait :D
[23:13:59] Me: [23:13] Person:

<<< think of the futureFuture...
[23:14:54] Me: What would the power do? I can't be sure of anyones plans, because There are no facts to confirm any of those theories. (there are a few but not many) but now it comes to this simple question, why? :D
[23:15:00] Me: why would they need bigger control over the people...
[23:15:22] Me: And there is also a simple answer, they need to keep their power in the situation which is coming in the future
[23:15:50] Person: and /what/ exactly is that situation...
[23:16:25] Me: If they are limiting the power of the people then there is a planned future situation where their actions will lead the people against them, where their actions damage the nation.
[23:17:12] Person: or where a specific group does so
[23:17:18] Person: but that would be insane
[23:17:37] Person: such thinking implies they are possibly thinking generations down the line
[23:19:10] Me: Oh oh... The fact that they have been able to make people blind so successfully just shows that they DO have things planned for a lot of generations down the line
[23:19:41] Person: but I suppose we should also consider the indirect impact that the attack caused
[23:19:42] Me: and if they still fear the people in this situation that clearly shows that there is something REALLY REALLY wrong with them... That their intentions have NOTHING GOOD in them
[23:20:08] Person: yes, nothing good...
[23:20:11] Me: I'm not going to specifics yet :P
[23:20:54] Person: homeland security has created many advancements in surviellance and 'defense' weaponry...
[23:21:08] Me: against who?
[23:21:16] Me: Against those who have NEVEr attacked them? :D
[23:21:21] Person: "terrorists"
[23:21:22] Me: they have the most powerful army in the world....
[23:21:25] Me: But against WHO?
[23:21:41] Me: There is NO THREAT against the US.
[23:21:50] Person: oh but there is.
[23:22:03] Me: There is a threat against those in power....
[23:22:15] Person: it wouldn't be strange to consider that they shared their technology with other countries
[23:22:31] Person: hence making them stronger as well and more able to watch their own people
[23:22:45] Person: clearly they are defending against something, but what...
[23:23:06] Person: it makes you wonder if even they know what they are defending against....
[23:23:24] Person: or if they are just blindly looking...
[23:23:43] Me: They do know.
[23:24:14] Person: then what are they looking for? what is this unknown 'enemy' they are fighting, hmmm?
[23:24:21] Me: To keep billions of people under such a control and a layer of lies needs skill... A LOT of skill, power and planning
[23:24:30] Me: maybe even hundreds of years of planning
[23:24:42] Person: precisely
[23:25:35] Me: this is similar to what I know/believe but it's not exactly what i believe... It just may give you a hint ;) http://stopsyjonizmowi.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bilderberg.jpg
[23:26:47] Me: So yeah. If this kind of control over the people needs a lot of skill,power,planning etc then it also needs a lot of manpower...
[23:27:03] Me: [23:26] Me:

<<< planningwith manpower comes within a group.
[23:27:22] Person: no...
[23:27:25] Person: you are way off...
[23:27:31] Me: wait wait...
[23:28:04] Me: I didn't state myself properly ._.
[23:28:09] Person: [23:19] Me:

<<< That their intentions have NOTHING GOOD in themyou almost had it...
[23:28:29] Person: [23:24] Me:

<<< maybe even hundreds of years of planningyes, how true...
[23:29:01] Me: I must get my mind together again, wait :D I start speaking rubbish sometimes when I try to think myself into someones elses perspective...
[23:29:26] Me: Ill just return to those 2 points:
[23:29:29] Me: [23:28] Person:

<<< [23:24] Me:

<<< maybe even hundreds of years of planning
[23:29:30] Person: [23:20] Me:

<<< they have the most powerful army in the world....[23:21] Me:

<<< There is NO THREAT against the US.you assume the threat is just against the US...
[23:29:32] Me: [23:28] Person:

<<< That their intentions have NOTHING GOOD in them
[23:29:39] Me: [23:29] Person:

<<< you assume the threat is just against the US...nono
[23:29:46] Me: again, i went off on that one too :|
[23:29:52] Me: The treath is against the world.
[23:30:55] Me: Well, If we have such preparations for a big event to keep people from being able to protect themselves and also stop them from even thinkign of that it means that what they want is a global control.
[23:31:01] Me: As it happens globally, not only in the US
[23:31:14] Person: exactly
[23:31:23] Person: but still
[23:31:30] Person: who wants global control
[23:31:40] Me: you are asking for specifics again... :D
[23:31:48] Person: and what threat would there be?
[23:32:02] Person: if you have global control, an army has no purpose
[23:32:20] Me: [23:31] Person:

<<< and what threat would there be?towards who?
[23:32:35] Person: everyone is already convinced that you aren't a corrupt leader
[23:32:45] Person: it implies that something would need to be fought
[23:33:28] Person: what sort of resistance requires that strong of weaponry?
[23:33:36] Person: a swat team could handle that
[23:33:40] Person: let alone a nuke